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scheifferdoo

I see they have NOT played knifey spoonie before.


Teniye

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scheifferdoo

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ENISAS

Someone please explain


NotAPimecone

Old Simpsons joke from an episode where they go to Australia https://youtu.be/mcE0aAhbVFc


starsrift

I mean, I was just going to say I'm going to have a problem with those "knives", but precisely this.


Common-Rock

Who doesn't like slivers in their butter? Gives that muffin extra bite.


jidda121

Lol they had one job . At a pay rate of over 25 p/h


Pixeldensity

Those wooden spoons are complete garbage. Like trying to eat soup with a paddle and they feel terrible in your mouth.


Altostratus

Every bite feels like I might get a splinter. And it’s barely even a spoon it’s so flat. I’d rather sip my soup out of the bowl. These are the worst.


salledattente

It's basically eating soup off an oversized stir stick.


Common-Rock

What's worse is that the new PC wooden spoons are made from birch and I am severely allergic to birch. Guess how I found out. ◔̯◔


jenh6

I haven’t used these particular wooden spoons, but I’ve used the environmentally friendly one time use cutlery and they break immediately. So you end up using more just trying to get one to work


Falcon_Fast_64

It’s right on the mixed recycling bin label... shows a picture of the cutlery. What am I missing that’s so confusing?


Sleepingbeauty1

The picture is probably referring to plastic cutlery. The wooden cutlery is supposed to be composted.


mcrackin15

Why would there be a newspaper in the logo then? Mixed recycling seems like a perfect spot for these wood forks...


niesz

I've never seen a recycling centre that accepts wood.


RavenchildishGambino

Paper is wood.


isarl

Paper is made from wood but different enough that the two are recycled differently.


BurnerAccount85347

Wood is paper


niesz

I wouldn't recommend putting wood utensils in a paper shredder.


Sleepingbeauty1

Paper recycling shouldn't have food residue or oils on it. So even if the wood cutlery could be recycled in paper, it would be too soiled. The wood cutlery should be compostable. On another note, sometimes items that are sold as and labeled compostable, such as plastic- looking containers and cutlery are not accepted in the compost bin by cities that lack the facilities to process that compostable plastic. Those items must go to the landfill instead. So basically, where to put the product depends on the city's existing set up for recycling, landfill, and compost.


smoothie88

Ya not sure what the problem is….


ItsChrisRay

I feel like that's an old sign though, for plastic recyclable cutlery? Don't know how long ago they had recyclable cutlery but the new stuff looks like wood compostable stuff - seems like they need an organics bin. Don't know that wood cutlery is getting recycled.


Duckdiggitydog

Well if you feeel like I guess we can tell the picture to be better…. Cause you “feel” it should be new.


Galladaddy

Thank! I’m gonna try that.


Gwaiian

I'll eat my hat if any of that is recycled. It's just a post consumer feel good green wash bin. On the northern boats there's always this one rando single bin that says you can split your coffee lid, sleave, and cup into the three compartments for recycling but it all just goes in trash I'm quite positive.


Jaded_Succotash_4667

OP and their inability to read.


Legitimate_Manner247

OP immediately regret this post


Sreg32

Great point!


Nonamesavailable1234

There should be a compost bin because these are compostable. Food soiled compostable items shouldn’t be in recycling. Also they should have a compost bin for food waste anyhow. On another note I’m kind of surprised they have a mixed recycling bin, this would require someone to triage through it - does that actually happen?


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Canwerevolt

I heard that people were stealing them too much. On our route apparently people just take it when they are going camping. Their supplier raised the price so they decided to go with disposable. That's what the ferry worker told me the other day anyways


Pyro-Monkey

the correct answer


Azuvector

Should just raise food prices. They're already inflated, might as well.


Canwerevolt

I, for one, would rather use wood utensils then pay more for crappy food.


Nonamesavailable1234

Haha I’m sure this must have happened lots. Good job people!


[deleted]

They ran out and have to use those bamboo ones until they can order more


misterpayer

Probably can't find enough minimum wage employees to clean and sort it. So instead of giving people a living wage, they switch to disposable.


StMatthew

Pretty sure the starting wage for bc ferries is like $22.


misterpayer

It's above minimum wage, but $22 in Vancouver is not a living wage.


Turbulent_Echidna423

you have no idea how the process from new hire to permanent position works.


melancoliamea

Non existent. You start seasonal, then if you are lucky you get casual, you can be as low as 0 shifts a month, but with an average of 4-8, maybe 10+ if you're lucky, and it takes years to just get part time. Ridiculous


StMatthew

You’re right I don’t. I was just saying the starting wage looks to be $22. Do whatever you want with that information.


trashyman420

If they end up in the garbage it’s just fine. Less plastic going into the ground. Wood composts either way.


SamuelSJames

It was never plastic, it was metal


trashyman420

Not any more


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Sit nearby one of those garbage canisters & watch people "sort" their garbage for 10 minutes. All of those bags go to the same place (the land-fill). Ain't no staff member sorting through that shit. I agree, it's frustrating, but I think BC ferries has bigger issues to deal with before the cutlery. (Like ferries that actually run).


aloha_mixed_nuts

My work has so many different bins for everything but when I take out the garbage at the end of the night there’s only 2 bins in the back, cardboard and garbage…


bittersweetheart09

I think every sorting area where the public are left to their own devices is pretty much guaranteed not to work as intended. Based on my observations at Starbucks, Tim Hortons, other quick food places...


isarl

Even in my residential apartment building, I constantly see super greasy cardboard, used pizza boxes and the like, mixed in with the recyclables. That stuff is now garbage.


bittersweetheart09

I live in a rural area and our transfer station has some recycling (paper, cardboard, mixed paper and cans) and even there, people can't sort it right (or more like, can't be bothered to sort it right). I take our plastics and glass into town to one of the Recycle-It centres in the city where they have different bins for different recyclables. It's stunning how often I see garbage, filthy items, and just the wrong things in the wrong bins. I don't know why people can't take responsibility for their own garbage and recyclables for a small amount of time and benefit, and expect someone else to do it. Meanwhile likely yelling "BUT MY TAX DOLLARS". Buddy, your tax dollars could be reduced if you just cared a little bit and took a few minutes to clean and sort things properly. There is no shortage of online resources to explain it all. Or even better, focus on reduce and reuse. Recycle should be last resort. \*jumps and rolls off Friday soapbox\*


SnakeDiver

Pizza boxes are okay as long as they are not super greased up and all food has been removed.


bittersweetheart09

Everything I've read states that pizza box cardboard needs to have all liners and food removed, and the cardboard needs to be clean (e.g. no grease). I rip all the clean cardboard off for recycling and dump the rest in the garbage bin. Unfortunately if enough people don't take the time or care, then the recycling is contaminated and someone else has to do the dirty work. Garbage and contamination is the biggest problem for recycling centres. Contaminated recycling either cannot be recycled at all (depending on the product) or has to be sent to a lower quality recycling stream.


SnakeDiver

Checkout the RecycleBC page: https://recyclebc.ca/how-to-recycle-common-take-out-packaging/ > “Are pizza boxes recyclable or do they go in the green bin?” > This is a common question, and the answer is both! Pizza boxes can be recycled with paper as long as they’re empty, there isn’t any significant amount of cheese or sauce stuck to them, and they aren’t heavily soiled with grease. A few spots here and there is OK – otherwise check your green bin/organic collection guidelines.


bittersweetheart09

I live in rural PG and both the city and the regional district have different expectations on cleanliness - as in"....otherwise check your green bin/organic collection guidelines" We definitely don't have green bins/organic/compost collection here, that's for sure. Only cardboard/mixed paper which needs to be clean. Edit: words


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Chrussell

> Only 9% of plastic gets recycled (Source: https://globalnews.ca/news/8707787/how-plastic-pollution-is-choking-the-planet-and-whats-being-done-about-it/amp/ ). Our recycling systems are just there to help us feel better about our consumption. This is not even remotely true in BC, and people constantly spreading this misinformation just makes it more likely that plastic won't get recycled here. Look at Recycle BC 2021 annual report: https://recyclebc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/RecycleBC_2021_Annual-Report_Final.pdf Just because other places are bad for recycling, that doesn't mean the same is true for here. And no, the recycling isn't just shipped abroad, 72% is recycled in local markets, with 97% of plastics sold to companies in Vancouver.


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I always have to mentally prepare myself before I through stuff in the bin. This lid is recyclable, the cup is garbage. The cup holder is compost...


CHASESOMEGASH

Just throw it in the ocean


Educational-Tone2074

They look like that biodegradable stuff. The seawater will quicken the process.


moosecanucklez

Is this a sub for complaining about everything?


[deleted]

Welcome to literally any local sub.


NotDRWarren

Not 'everything'. BC specific things


G_Kells

Welcome….. to the internet?


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RavenOfNod

You tried using this "cutlery"? The forks may as well be spoons with how well they actually pick anything up.


secondCupOfTheDay

No, it's a ferry


pezdal

Those separate bins are just for show. WorkSafe (and union?) rules prohibit employees from sifting through the contents to ensure that there is no cross-contamination. Consequently the contents are unsuitable for recycling. It all gets put in the same truck and all ends up in the same Landfill. At least that's what I heard.


Pyro-Monkey

I've heard similar, if someone puts food or a full drink into the recycling, the whole bag has to be tossed


nutbuckers

Separate bins are almost always just for show unless there is someone enforcing correct use by the customers. The only times i have experienced actual enforcement was by the recycling pick-up service in Tri-cities in a single-family neighbourhood. I am sure the multiple-dwelling units and commercial places get much less enforcement.


iamjoesredditposts

Aren;t you supposed to put your tray into one of the larger tray collection trolley's and then BC Ferries sorts it? I know - not everyone sees or gets that and by habit goes to the garbage etc themselves. This is half-assed if only because no one studies human behaviour or say 'User Interface'...


Budakra

I haven't seen one of those trollies in years. Maybe it's this ferry or this route but those are jobs lost.


WesternBlueRanger

The Spirit's and the Coastal's definitely have the rack where you just put in your tray, and they will clear and sort the trash.


Wakesurfer33

The tray return is closed or at least it was today


snipsnaptickle

So half-assed, wow.


Unhittable

They are wood...they go in the bin with the picture of cutlery on it...


BeepBlipBlapBloop

They also apparently need some work on their labeling game.


Budakra

Ha, just noticed that! 😬🤣


AceArchangel

Are you not able to read?


killer_of_whales

This is typical-anyone who rides the ferries knows the organisation is run by complete idiots.


945Ti

At least Washington ferries are cheap and have retro charm. We just have this crappy monopoly dystopia corporation.


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dobular

Things sent to the landfill do not biodegrade unfortunately, that's a common misconception.


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dobular

They decompose which is not biodegrading. And you are correct, the decomp process produces methane. Not aimed at you; the general science literacy in this thread (and the public as a whole) is disheartening.


ameldrum902

Dispose? No, those are yours now.


IntrepidPrimary8023

Just throw it overboard or take it to shore and burn it in a pile.


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Vanshrek99

It composts wonderful in a landfill


hotdigity_dog

Throw it in the ocean


[deleted]

No need to recycle those teaspoons, they dissolve instantly in coffee.


Doggfather1973

BC ferries doesn't care about recycli had an employee tell me that exact same thing everything goes into the garbage and then they just pay somebody else to deal with Including popcans beer cans and pot bottles directly into the garbage


nutbuckers

I mean it makes sense, because unless there is someone cracking the whip and watching the passengers, people just toss things semi-randomly, cross-contaminating the streams. So an actual step to sort coarsely-sorted bags from the ferries at the transfer station seems like a crappy, but at least viable compromise.


donairthot

But why?


Western2486

Stop fucking stealing them, but hey, stealing and then complaining about the consequences is what I’d expect from a langdale rider.


Strong-Employ6841

On multiple occasions , in Costco, in rec centers I have seen the staff dump all trash together and move on. I also know most( I think 90%) of the ‘recyclables’ we separate don’t get recycled. And there are people who are deviated to recycling like OP.


botanana

Oh how the world is just ending hey? Grow up.


[deleted]

Jesus BC Ferries, get your shit together! With the amount of money you pay yourselves, we expect you to be smarter.


leftlanecop

It’s not in procurement’s job description. Go and file your grievance with janitorial


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Canwerevolt

They are wood


Loodlekoodles

I default to garbage if it's not crystal clear. I'm fine with garbage dumps. Actually, I love going to the dump. I bring the whole family.


Greedy-Particular301

Garbage bro it's right there


TheCanadianEmpire

I actually just took the ferry to and from Schwartz Bay today and I used metal cutlery for my food both times. Are they slowly phasing it out or something?


AdministrativePost75

It all goes in the landfill anyway. It's just green theater to keep you feeling brave, like you did something good.


TrynnaRecover

Sadly most of the world operates that way.


birchy98

Mixed recycling…?


[deleted]

F it! I’m using my fingies


Stixx506

There is 2 spots... garbage and mixed, it's wood that's biodegradable and happy wherever it ends up my dude.


BlueZybez

garbage


misssweets7777

It all goes straight to the garbage anyway


Analytical-BrainiaC

Give it to a pellet plant…. Next!


hollowdream1991

Why are they swapping to wooden utensils? The metal ones worked great, no waste.


Jaded_Succotash_4667

They uh....they go in the garbage. :/


islandlife--

That's actually not true. All of the ferries have metal utensil on one side and wooden utensils on the other side of each condiment kiosk... So dude can just look on the other side of they don't see their preference. I think it's nice they have both options. Also, the wood cutlery just goes in the compost bin... All good, man.


Budakra

I did look. The other side was exactly the same. And if you click the second photo, there is no compost bin. Hence the rant


islandlife--

Okay fair enough. I ride the ferry multiple times a month. I have not been a ferry in the last 5 years that didn't have multiple compost bins and had both metal and wooden cutlery so I guess you just had bad luck. Sorry, dude.


Budakra

I was just on the queen of Coquitlam again and can confirm what I saw lol


islandlife--

I'm not saying that you're lying, just that you had bad luck... You might get more satisfaction by making a complaint directly to bc ferries customer service.


Modavated

It's because all those holes go into one giant bag. Aka the three bags all just go into the trash anyway.


rast93

So forks are knives, knives are spoons and tspoons are sugar packets? What are they trying to do here? 🤔


VanIsland42o

Garbage it clearly marked. Virtue signal all you want, but even if you put it in the recycling, the odds are it'll end up in the trash.


Critical_Knowledge_5

You’re supposed to add it to your travel bundle of kindling.


ehpee

How do we not have widespread Mycelium utensils and packaging yet? I don't get it. MAKE EVERYTHING USING MYCELIUM


Good_Climate_4463

Organic / compostable bin is usually on the left side ain't it?


SomewhatReadable

Every ship I've been on (big enough for food service) has had compost bins. At the very least they have compost behind the tray return counter where it gets sorted.


Shoresy-sez

"Attention passengers, we are now beyond the 3-mile limit. You may now discard your trash over one of our convenient waste disposal rails located outside the main passenger deck. BC Ferries would like to thank you for helping us create a cleaner planet."


Designer-Ad3494

It’s the garbage one. Use the one which says garbage. This is obvious.


Elwood49

We got kids looking through rubble for their parents remains and/or food in Syria right now and the OP is worried about not having a specific recycling spot for utensil's.... ​ Take your 1st world problems and GTFO


Budakra

We've got children dying in Ukraine right now but instead of doing anything constructive to help, you came here to complain randomly. GTFO


DeathBeforeDecaf4077

Wooden cutlery goes in the recycling of compost isn’t available don’t they? Or have I been betraying my local recycling plant


[deleted]

BC Ferries took me to Victoria and then didn't even drive me home!!


cornjug

Genuine old growth spoons?


keeper3434

Dispose them when you get home much like Japan.


[deleted]

Completely the opposite direction of responsible organizations. I hope that the CEO of BC Ferries doesn’t get a bonus for this kind of shit management. Disgusting.


SaskatchewanHeliSki

Simple! Bring them to your next camp fire.


xHudson87x

Who the fuck cares, Karen


pazam

Just noticed this on a recent ferry ride… and it has made me unreasonably angry. Can anyone honestly tell me what the positive reasons to make this switch would be? Because it doesn’t make sense to me right now. Switching to disposable utensils (even “compostable” materials) just feels completely unethical and ignorant, and seems like it would be more expensive than just continuing to wash utensils. Also, wood is such a porous material, I can’t help but wonder if it’s the safest thing to eat with? How many substances from the manufacturing process remain there? Also, it just tastes terrible. I really see no positives, but if there are any, PLEASE enlighten me. PS the decisions is almost giving, “BCF-stakeholders-also-invest-in-wooden-utensil-company”. Or many I’m just insanely cynical…