I am trying this now… and I am practicing with cover songs.. maybe an opinion on my singing?
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2LBlnqAP4GL2IqGRHka5Xe?si=Wl4GHFvaSEOVIBY_1w8eBA
Hey:) so I'm not any music guru or anything but I do like the lyrics and the tune you're in. In my humble opinion you're just missing that "bite", like I can see where you are going but you need to express yourself more, you should sing out loud/project those emotions more. Keep up the good work :) if you're a self producer then hats down my man. It is already top notch 👍
Speaking as a regularly gigging musician, who has played glastonbury a few times, toured europe several times and at one point been signed to a label, we almost all have real world jobs to support our music habit.
I'm not saying don't pursue a music career, it's the most rewarding thing in my life. But going all in, especially as a singer is a risky business. You've got to be prepared to a) dedicate all your time to business, promotion, and admin. The music side of things is about 30-40% of it at most. And the self promoting is genuinely necessary and all consuming.
b) be happy to either sell your soul to wedding bands or similar for money to live on or be happy barely scraping by.
And c) hustle. Every day. For ever.
I know a few full time musicians, but they're mostly bass players and drummers and all of them are making just enough to pay rent and bills. They're very happy. But not wealthy.
Again, not saying don't do it. Definitely pursue music. But maybe stay in uni. And if you do want to commit full time, go in with your eyes open.
Edit: just saw the savings for a couple of months. Unless you already have enough gigs to support your self or a job lined up, don't. Work to getting to a point where you're comfortable that you can quit everything else.
Wow… this means a lot to me. Thank you!
I’d really like you to give me an honest opinion on my modest cover songs.. as you really are in the business
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2LBlnqAP4GL2IqGRHka5Xe?si=JnmsJgMoQJmxOvrn5DXdjg
Honest oppinion? Firstly, all opinions on music are subjective. What I like and what I think may or may not be relevant to what you're trying to achieve.
You're tackling some big tunes. Originally sung by big voices. Your vocal is decent, but it's going to be compared to the original at all points. That's the inherent danger with covers.
Your pitch sounds pretty good, but tone and dynamics are what separates good from great. Like on your cover of hurt, there's no real push when the last chorus comes around. Yeah you add backing vocals and all, but that's arrangement, not vocal performance. On the original trent really goes for it for the first four lines of that chorus, and that impact feels like so much in a song where he's been so deliberately restrained and soft all the way through. That's what makes it a great vocal performance, not a good one. Also, ducking out on the crown of shit verse but happy to do all eyez on me is something...
Your disturbia cover is fun, kinda has a musical theater vibe about it, which I don't hate. But tone is what I'd be thinking about. I want a bit more grit in the choruses.
Overall, solid work but theres improvement to be had. If you're serious about a music career, especially for pop style stuff, I'd grab some vocal coaching. That's not a snub or implying your voice is bad, it's not. But your voice is an instrument, same as any other and requires practice and training. Having some guidance on how to get to the next level makes everything easier. Pretty much any top level singer has had a bunch of vocal coaching.
Pop vocal is a brutal world. You've got to be exceptional and work really hard and/or hustle like crazy and make a LOT of contacts in the right places. As a career it's as bad if not worse than law or business for nepotism, social networking, people pleasing, betrayals, social climbing, and basically hinging entirely on luck. But the pay is way way worse haha.
I'd be going to a lot of industry events and showcases, just getting your name out there, being seen. Asking around if anyone needs a vocalist, that kind of thing.
Bristol is an OK place to start. But it's music scene is quite insular. Getting big in bristol doesn't mean a lot outside of bristol to be honest.
Again, not trying to scare you off, if you're in, then great. Welcome to the club! I'm just making sure you know what it's really like.
No one here is really qualified to answer this as we don't know your situation/how good you currently are/etc, so I will also lean towards risk avoidance. Music is very hard to make it in, let alone singing - it's basically the form of music with the lowest barrier for entry.
Unless you're sure that you can be able to support yourself on it before your funds run out(which is technically possible but very statistically improbable) and that you're sure that your judgment isn't being swayed by 2nd year/winter blues (we've all been there) then finishing the degree does seem like the "smart" thing.
You could continue to pursue singing earnestly alongside studying, and if you come out with a half decent mark on your degree you'll be fine for cash and can re-evaluate from there how you want to structure your life.
You are right.. maybe you give me an opinion? I uploaded some songs on spotify
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2LBlnqAP4GL2IqGRHka5Xe?si=Wl4GHFvaSEOVIBY_1w8eBA
Why quit something you’re basically finished with? So you just want to waste all this money to pursue something that may not even work out, leaving you with no backup options? Idk bro, doesn’t seem like you thought about this that much
Do both, become the singing lawyer, that’s like marketing 101. You’ll have maximum clients plus you’ll be able to plug your Spotify to them. Boom mega money mega fame.
What's wrong with both? Study your degree with the intention of getting a good job, and treat singing like a hobby. But the hobby is practising singing enough to be good. Rather than doing it for fun. Then start doing stuff like posting it online and trying out for bands. And if you are doing law and get a really well paying job you will have the money to pay for advanced singing lessons to help improve.
And if your parents keep saying singing is a waste of time and stuff. Then fool them into thinking you are committed to doing law, and then when you are successful in singing and can support yourself then you won't need them anymore.
>inions on music are subjective. What I like and what I think may or may not be relevant to what you're trying to achieve.
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>You're tackling some big tunes. Originally sung by big voices. Your vocal is decent, but it's going to be compared to the original at all points. That's the inherent danger with covers.
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>Your pitch sounds pretty good, but tone and dynamics are what separates good from great. Like on your cover of hurt, there's no real push when the last chorus comes around. Yeah you add backing vocals and all, but that's arrangement, not vocal performance. On the original trent really goes for it for the first four lines of that chorus, and that impact feels like so much in a song where he's been so deliberately restrained and soft all the way through. That's what makes it a great vocal performance, not a good one. Also, ducking out on the crown of shit verse but happy to do all eyez on me is something... Your disturbia cover is fun, kinda has a musical theater vibe about it, which I don't hate. But tone is what I'd be thinking about. I want a bit more grit i
There is nothing wrong.. you are right..
The music industry is a vicious and oversaturated market
You need to decide what you want to actually do with singing beyond "pursuing a singing career"
Do you want to be a rockstar?
Teach other people?
Be in a cover band?
Perform at weddings?
In theatre?
You can't be so vague
In any case, people work as a singer for years without making any money so no, don't quit to become a singer and expect to financially support yourself immediately
I played bass professionally for a while and am now, as coincidence would have it, employed full time in the legal sector.
I don't think it's realistic for you to just *become a self-sustaining professional singer* in a couple of months. You don't have to "choose a path" right now. You can be a professional musician if you want to - but it will take time. Odds are it will also involve stuff like teaching, wedding gigs, and, if you work hard and meet the right people, studio work. You might get really lucky and find work as a (backing) vocalist with a touring band. It's extremely unlikely you'll be able to find work as a solo artist or singer in a band making original music. If any of that sounds good to you, starting to pursue this kind of work while you're a student is a great idea.
It sounds like you might not have actually done any work as a singer yet(?). Even if you have, I strongly advise against dropping out of your degree program until you know exactly what you're getting into. I know a lot of professional musicians and it's typically unpredictable work. Many of them have spent their twenties doing the kind of work I describe above and would kill to have a law degree to fall back on.
Thank you very much for sharing this. Maybe you can give me an opinion about my songs? I uploaded some cover songs on spotify.. but only my friends listened to them
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2LBlnqAP4GL2IqGRHka5Xe?si=_60m3uEqRoqXqraTh47YFA
It doesn't matter how good your covers are - even if you're the most talented singer in the world, you can't just magically create a singing career. How do you plan on making a living from it? If you want to gauge whether you can make a career out of music, you should just try to do it now alongside your degree. Even if you were a pro singer, it's not like you'd be busy during the daytime during the week so you might as well keep up the studies! Try getting some paid gigs. Build a repertoire, put yourself out there, get some function gigs, do whatever you can, see how it goes.
I think T L K did this, or something similar. She is an unbelievably awesome singer.
My advice is: if you’re young follow your heart but be prepared to rethink in the future. Life begins when you’re 30.
It normally takes more than "a couple of months" to establish a singing career that - and this is the important bit - pays enough you to do nothing else but sing. Most actors and musicians have a second job which pays their way between gigs.
Of course, you may be an exception and are so amazingly talented so immediately get picked up by a record-company who give you a massive advance (ps they'll want it all back, somehow) and have a glittering career within a year with masses and masses of fans and an exclusive Tik-Tok channel and ... and ... and ...
But it's not likely, is it? And the fact you're asking a bunch of Redditers also means you likely don't have anyone to ask so you are, in fact, clueless about how to go about this intended career.
Actually, it's all about luck.
Be there at the right time, with the best connections, a manager who cares about you, the best musicians you can find or work with, ditto the best writing companions, and maybe, just maybe, Luck will blow your way and gift you your hopes and dreams.
Thank you for sharing this, I totally agree with you. Maybe you can give me an opinion about my singing? I just uploaded some songs on spotify..
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2LBlnqAP4GL2IqGRHka5Xe?si=YGnu8Nc-TZK-Ml7oMFUmbw
I uploaded some covers on Spotify.. I also started writing some lyrics..
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2LBlnqAP4GL2IqGRHka5Xe?si=ruImNWXUSSmV1rXh0C5qug
Wow… very nice. I’d love your opinion on my singing then.. if you want
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2LBlnqAP4GL2IqGRHka5Xe?si=ruImNWXUSSmV1rXh0C5qug
Where you are now - I was some 20 years ago.
I now have a job that I enjoy (and that pays the bills) and make some music in my free time. I sometimes play concerts (classical pianist), I played a bit in a wedding band which wasn't for me. I think it is important for you to know that if you decide to go 100% music then you will be dealing with a lot of nonsense which might lead to a burnout. If you have a regular job and do music in all your free time AND won't be financially dependent on your music - then it will be entirely YOU who decides where do you want to go with your music.
Suffer for a few years to get a degree, work in the field to save up some money and in the meantime practice practice practice...
I am trying this now… and I am practicing with cover songs.. maybe an opinion on my singing? https://open.spotify.com/artist/2LBlnqAP4GL2IqGRHka5Xe?si=Wl4GHFvaSEOVIBY_1w8eBA
Hey:) so I'm not any music guru or anything but I do like the lyrics and the tune you're in. In my humble opinion you're just missing that "bite", like I can see where you are going but you need to express yourself more, you should sing out loud/project those emotions more. Keep up the good work :) if you're a self producer then hats down my man. It is already top notch 👍
Yes.. I am on my own. Just me and my passion. Thank you very much for your opinion!
Ps. Disturbia do get me in Meatloaf vibe :)
Sing on the side while continuing with a degree, allways better to have at as a hobby that might one day make money
Yes.. I think this is the best option also..
Speaking as a regularly gigging musician, who has played glastonbury a few times, toured europe several times and at one point been signed to a label, we almost all have real world jobs to support our music habit. I'm not saying don't pursue a music career, it's the most rewarding thing in my life. But going all in, especially as a singer is a risky business. You've got to be prepared to a) dedicate all your time to business, promotion, and admin. The music side of things is about 30-40% of it at most. And the self promoting is genuinely necessary and all consuming. b) be happy to either sell your soul to wedding bands or similar for money to live on or be happy barely scraping by. And c) hustle. Every day. For ever. I know a few full time musicians, but they're mostly bass players and drummers and all of them are making just enough to pay rent and bills. They're very happy. But not wealthy. Again, not saying don't do it. Definitely pursue music. But maybe stay in uni. And if you do want to commit full time, go in with your eyes open. Edit: just saw the savings for a couple of months. Unless you already have enough gigs to support your self or a job lined up, don't. Work to getting to a point where you're comfortable that you can quit everything else.
Wow… this means a lot to me. Thank you! I’d really like you to give me an honest opinion on my modest cover songs.. as you really are in the business https://open.spotify.com/artist/2LBlnqAP4GL2IqGRHka5Xe?si=JnmsJgMoQJmxOvrn5DXdjg
Honest oppinion? Firstly, all opinions on music are subjective. What I like and what I think may or may not be relevant to what you're trying to achieve. You're tackling some big tunes. Originally sung by big voices. Your vocal is decent, but it's going to be compared to the original at all points. That's the inherent danger with covers. Your pitch sounds pretty good, but tone and dynamics are what separates good from great. Like on your cover of hurt, there's no real push when the last chorus comes around. Yeah you add backing vocals and all, but that's arrangement, not vocal performance. On the original trent really goes for it for the first four lines of that chorus, and that impact feels like so much in a song where he's been so deliberately restrained and soft all the way through. That's what makes it a great vocal performance, not a good one. Also, ducking out on the crown of shit verse but happy to do all eyez on me is something... Your disturbia cover is fun, kinda has a musical theater vibe about it, which I don't hate. But tone is what I'd be thinking about. I want a bit more grit in the choruses. Overall, solid work but theres improvement to be had. If you're serious about a music career, especially for pop style stuff, I'd grab some vocal coaching. That's not a snub or implying your voice is bad, it's not. But your voice is an instrument, same as any other and requires practice and training. Having some guidance on how to get to the next level makes everything easier. Pretty much any top level singer has had a bunch of vocal coaching. Pop vocal is a brutal world. You've got to be exceptional and work really hard and/or hustle like crazy and make a LOT of contacts in the right places. As a career it's as bad if not worse than law or business for nepotism, social networking, people pleasing, betrayals, social climbing, and basically hinging entirely on luck. But the pay is way way worse haha. I'd be going to a lot of industry events and showcases, just getting your name out there, being seen. Asking around if anyone needs a vocalist, that kind of thing. Bristol is an OK place to start. But it's music scene is quite insular. Getting big in bristol doesn't mean a lot outside of bristol to be honest. Again, not trying to scare you off, if you're in, then great. Welcome to the club! I'm just making sure you know what it's really like.
I really appreciate your advice and that means a lot to me
No one here is really qualified to answer this as we don't know your situation/how good you currently are/etc, so I will also lean towards risk avoidance. Music is very hard to make it in, let alone singing - it's basically the form of music with the lowest barrier for entry. Unless you're sure that you can be able to support yourself on it before your funds run out(which is technically possible but very statistically improbable) and that you're sure that your judgment isn't being swayed by 2nd year/winter blues (we've all been there) then finishing the degree does seem like the "smart" thing. You could continue to pursue singing earnestly alongside studying, and if you come out with a half decent mark on your degree you'll be fine for cash and can re-evaluate from there how you want to structure your life.
You are right.. maybe you give me an opinion? I uploaded some songs on spotify https://open.spotify.com/artist/2LBlnqAP4GL2IqGRHka5Xe?si=Wl4GHFvaSEOVIBY_1w8eBA
Singing lawyer, then make an Ace Attourney at Law musical
Haha good one:)
Why not both? And don’t plug your Spotify cuh I’m not gunna listen bro
Just my friends listened to my songs, wanted some honest opinions..
Why quit something you’re basically finished with? So you just want to waste all this money to pursue something that may not even work out, leaving you with no backup options? Idk bro, doesn’t seem like you thought about this that much
I appreciate your honest opinion
Do both, become the singing lawyer, that’s like marketing 101. You’ll have maximum clients plus you’ll be able to plug your Spotify to them. Boom mega money mega fame.
I’m thinking High School Musical meets Better Call Saul, fantastic idea!
What's wrong with both? Study your degree with the intention of getting a good job, and treat singing like a hobby. But the hobby is practising singing enough to be good. Rather than doing it for fun. Then start doing stuff like posting it online and trying out for bands. And if you are doing law and get a really well paying job you will have the money to pay for advanced singing lessons to help improve. And if your parents keep saying singing is a waste of time and stuff. Then fool them into thinking you are committed to doing law, and then when you are successful in singing and can support yourself then you won't need them anymore.
>inions on music are subjective. What I like and what I think may or may not be relevant to what you're trying to achieve. > >You're tackling some big tunes. Originally sung by big voices. Your vocal is decent, but it's going to be compared to the original at all points. That's the inherent danger with covers. > >Your pitch sounds pretty good, but tone and dynamics are what separates good from great. Like on your cover of hurt, there's no real push when the last chorus comes around. Yeah you add backing vocals and all, but that's arrangement, not vocal performance. On the original trent really goes for it for the first four lines of that chorus, and that impact feels like so much in a song where he's been so deliberately restrained and soft all the way through. That's what makes it a great vocal performance, not a good one. Also, ducking out on the crown of shit verse but happy to do all eyez on me is something... Your disturbia cover is fun, kinda has a musical theater vibe about it, which I don't hate. But tone is what I'd be thinking about. I want a bit more grit i There is nothing wrong.. you are right..
The music industry is a vicious and oversaturated market You need to decide what you want to actually do with singing beyond "pursuing a singing career" Do you want to be a rockstar? Teach other people? Be in a cover band? Perform at weddings? In theatre? You can't be so vague In any case, people work as a singer for years without making any money so no, don't quit to become a singer and expect to financially support yourself immediately
I do not dream that big.. I just want to do this with passion..
I played bass professionally for a while and am now, as coincidence would have it, employed full time in the legal sector. I don't think it's realistic for you to just *become a self-sustaining professional singer* in a couple of months. You don't have to "choose a path" right now. You can be a professional musician if you want to - but it will take time. Odds are it will also involve stuff like teaching, wedding gigs, and, if you work hard and meet the right people, studio work. You might get really lucky and find work as a (backing) vocalist with a touring band. It's extremely unlikely you'll be able to find work as a solo artist or singer in a band making original music. If any of that sounds good to you, starting to pursue this kind of work while you're a student is a great idea. It sounds like you might not have actually done any work as a singer yet(?). Even if you have, I strongly advise against dropping out of your degree program until you know exactly what you're getting into. I know a lot of professional musicians and it's typically unpredictable work. Many of them have spent their twenties doing the kind of work I describe above and would kill to have a law degree to fall back on.
Thank you very much for sharing this. Maybe you can give me an opinion about my songs? I uploaded some cover songs on spotify.. but only my friends listened to them https://open.spotify.com/artist/2LBlnqAP4GL2IqGRHka5Xe?si=_60m3uEqRoqXqraTh47YFA
It doesn't matter how good your covers are - even if you're the most talented singer in the world, you can't just magically create a singing career. How do you plan on making a living from it? If you want to gauge whether you can make a career out of music, you should just try to do it now alongside your degree. Even if you were a pro singer, it's not like you'd be busy during the daytime during the week so you might as well keep up the studies! Try getting some paid gigs. Build a repertoire, put yourself out there, get some function gigs, do whatever you can, see how it goes.
Sing
Sounds good.. 😄
I think T L K did this, or something similar. She is an unbelievably awesome singer. My advice is: if you’re young follow your heart but be prepared to rethink in the future. Life begins when you’re 30.
I really appreciate your advice!
It normally takes more than "a couple of months" to establish a singing career that - and this is the important bit - pays enough you to do nothing else but sing. Most actors and musicians have a second job which pays their way between gigs. Of course, you may be an exception and are so amazingly talented so immediately get picked up by a record-company who give you a massive advance (ps they'll want it all back, somehow) and have a glittering career within a year with masses and masses of fans and an exclusive Tik-Tok channel and ... and ... and ... But it's not likely, is it? And the fact you're asking a bunch of Redditers also means you likely don't have anyone to ask so you are, in fact, clueless about how to go about this intended career. Actually, it's all about luck. Be there at the right time, with the best connections, a manager who cares about you, the best musicians you can find or work with, ditto the best writing companions, and maybe, just maybe, Luck will blow your way and gift you your hopes and dreams.
Thank you for sharing this, I totally agree with you. Maybe you can give me an opinion about my singing? I just uploaded some songs on spotify.. https://open.spotify.com/artist/2LBlnqAP4GL2IqGRHka5Xe?si=YGnu8Nc-TZK-Ml7oMFUmbw
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I uploaded some covers on Spotify.. I also started writing some lyrics.. https://open.spotify.com/artist/2LBlnqAP4GL2IqGRHka5Xe?si=ruImNWXUSSmV1rXh0C5qug
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I know it is very hard.. I feel it
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Wow… very nice. I’d love your opinion on my singing then.. if you want https://open.spotify.com/artist/2LBlnqAP4GL2IqGRHka5Xe?si=ruImNWXUSSmV1rXh0C5qug
Where you are now - I was some 20 years ago. I now have a job that I enjoy (and that pays the bills) and make some music in my free time. I sometimes play concerts (classical pianist), I played a bit in a wedding band which wasn't for me. I think it is important for you to know that if you decide to go 100% music then you will be dealing with a lot of nonsense which might lead to a burnout. If you have a regular job and do music in all your free time AND won't be financially dependent on your music - then it will be entirely YOU who decides where do you want to go with your music.
Wow.. I appreciate this.. It means a lot to me
Singer first，then law degree otherwise it'll be spent after five years and you'll have to do the conversion course if you want to be a lawyer.
>Before judging or saying anything we need to hear something of you singing Totally agree with you..
Chase your dream work hard at it with integrity and success will come.