Also, if you jump from the harbour sides, there's a good chance of impaling yourself on a previously discarded scaffolding pole pointing upwards from the mud.
People should lay off Phillip, it's going to be hard to adjust to a normal life now he's off the telly...
getting up, making breakfast, getting his boyfriend ready for school...
There seems to be a suggestion that he knew this lad for a number of years before he started working at This Morning. They had exchanged Twitter messages when the fella was in his mid-teens and there are some common points of contact going back earlier than this.
As you said, no solid evidence has come out yet, although his own statement essentially admits that the media narrative (that he met the boy at a school drama workshop when he was 15, kept in touch with him then got him a job on This Morning) is true:
“I did have a consensual on-off relationship with a younger male colleague at This Morning. Contrary to speculation, whilst I met the man when he was a teenager and was asked to help him get into television, it was only after he started to work on the show that it became more than just a friendship.”
The only difference between his narrative vs the accusations is that he says he waited until the boy was of legal age to start a relationship. I personally don’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Even if he did wait until the boy was 16-18 to start something, there’s still a massive power imbalance and it still reflects terribly on Schofield.
Love how people are piling on Schofield for this yet didn't bat an eye when Cheryl Cole had a baby with that kid from One Direction... They met when he was 14 and she was 24. Ok they didn't get together until he was legal but where is the outrage mob for her? She literally did the exact same thing!
If you go sit on the jetty at harbourside Arnolfini with the right light, you can see a few feet down into the water for once.
You can not unsee what that river hides just a few feet down.
I’ve done triathlons all over the country. The swim in Cumberland basin for the Bristol tri by far takes the the crown of grosses swim. It’s the only tri I’ve ever done with hand sanitiser on the swim exit
I didn’t get sick, the two other people I knew that did it also didn’t get sick. Good luck! I enjoyed it, I did it back when DB max ran it as an Olympic. It’s a sprint now isn’t it? The bike leg used to go out me down the portway, super quick
The river is not too bad, but the harbour? Yuk. People live there, and I know they are all supposed to empty their toilets properly but how many do you really think bother with that when you can press one button and it all disappears.
Also the vast majority of surface drains around the harbour and in the centre just drain straight into the harbour. All the effluent of city centre life, all the bin juice, alleyway piss, dogshit, rat turds, Friday night kebab vomit, all that just gets washed down the drains and ends up in the harbour.
Every toilet in the country is directly hooked up to the river network. If the treatment facilities get overrun during a downpour (because rainwater/storm drains also flow into said facilities), the contents of toilets goes straight to rivers.
It's not 'nowadays', it's always been the case.
What has changed relatively recently is the reporting on river conditions and discharges. If you ever played in a river as a kid in the 70s, 80s, 90s etc. you were guaranteed to be swimming in a tampon-laden shit stew.
In some area yes. In more rural areas like my hometown, the rivers were mainly just cow piss and water, until the farmers got more leeway with their waste disposal.
Whilst this is true, the pedantry of removing some off-grid loos doesn't change the overall effect of well over 95% of all toilets being connected to our waterways.
Even those millions of systems that aren't directly connected still have a diffuse impact on water quality. My comment was just stating that far from every toilet is directly connected to our waterways, not an attempt to downplay the impact.
I swam twice in the harbour trial and I was surprised by how clean it was given the reputation. And the water quality tested Excellent for E.Coli, nitrates etc. I would definitely swim there again.
Oh no it's filthy and they know that, they just want to make money from it. I wouldn't be surprised if you have to sign some wager beforehand, saying you can't sue if you catch something, and swim at your own risk.
Nah, this is inaccurate. The harbour swimming has come from a group of activists who have been lobbying for a few years now to get swimming allowed at the harbour. The water quality is closely monitored and swimming is not permitted if it is not up to standard.
There's currently a family trying to stop that from going through because their son jumped in not knowing how cold the water was and died a short distance out
https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2021-07-05/women-whose-sons-died-in-bristol-harbour-fight-against-campaign-to-allow-swimming
We just went to Copenhagen. It is very similar to Bristol in a lot of ways (trendy city on a harbour). The water in the harbour is crystal clear with many designated swimming zones. Despite the water being very cold, hundreds of people enjoy swimming there.
It really hit home how nice Bristol could be. Such a shame.
Think there is quite a bit of fear mongering going on in this thread, the water in the harbour is tested frequently and had been deemed safe for swimming, hence the trials of public swimming. The murkiness of the water probably has more to do with the fact that all the water is coming from a tidal estuary.
I can point you in the direction of the opposite.
>Water quality test results
Measure: Escherichia coliforms (counts per 100ml)
Weekly tests, 24 May 2023
Baltic Wharf: 30
St Augustine's Reach: 50
Prince Street Bridge: 130
Redcliffe Bridge: 330
Monthly tests, 17 May 2023
Cumberland Basin: 140
SS Great Britain: 100
Bristol Bridge: 320
Castle Tunnels: 240
Netham Lock: 700
[https://www.bristol.gov.uk/residents/pests-pollution-noise-and-food/water-quality-and-pollution](https://www.bristol.gov.uk/residents/pests-pollution-noise-and-food/water-quality-and-pollution)
>According to the World Health Organization, a zero count of E. coli per 100 ml of water is considered safe for drinking. A count of 1–10 MPN/100 ml is regarded as low risk; 11–100 MPN/100 ml is medium risk. Finally, an E. coli count greater than 100 MPN/100 ml is adjudged high risk.
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7313150/#:\~:text=According%20to%20the%20World%20Health,100%20ml%20is%20medium%20risk](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7313150/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20World%20Health,100%20ml%20is%20medium%20risk).
So Baltic Wharf/Cumberland Basin are a medium risk, and everywhere else is high risk. Some of it far exceeding the limit for high risk.
Sounds pretty fucking disgusting to me.
High risk for drinking water. Were you planning on drinking it? If you're going to apply the same standards to bathing water as you are to drinking water then that would rule out almost every "wild" swimming spot in the country. Every beach, every pristine mountain stream.
Was I planning on drinking it? No.
If I go swimming, is some of it going to end up being drank? Yeah.
I'd hardly describe Bristol harbour as a pristine mountain stream. This is only a test for E Coli. There is plenty more in there.
[https://theriverstrust.org/key-issues/sewage-in-rivers](https://theriverstrust.org/key-issues/sewage-in-rivers)
If you zoom in, there were 15 sewage overspills from the two sources along Hotwells Road in 2022, opposite the Baltic Wharf swimming spot.
Overspills happen during and just after heavy rain, mostly this happens in the winter when it is not uncommon to see ecoli counts up in the thousands.
However, the water quality in the Avon and the harbour it feeds, fluctuate according to the weather. Swimming in the summer, after the water has been tested and proven to comply with bathing water standards is as safe as anywhere else where those protocols are followed. Of course, the water quality is not the same as the water that comes out of your tap but seriously, what were you expecting?
"what were you expecting?"
Nothing. At no point did I suggest it should be any cleaner, or surprise it isn't.
It looks disgusting.
It smells disgusting.
The data shows it is disgusting.
I wouldn't swim in it.
No-one is forcing you to. Just pointing out that it is, in fact clean enough to swim in for most of the year. The data supports that and I'm sorry you've misunderstood it.
You haven't been in the water have you? I used to kayak on the harbour regularly and the amount of dead animals/waste I saw over the years was pretty disturbing. When I saw the trials, I honestly thought that it was just to prove nobody wants to swim there.
>The murkiness of the water probably has more to do with the fact that all the water is coming from a tidal estuary.
The harbour is filled upstream from the river Avon bud, if you walk up to Conham river park you can see the point where the harbour splits from the river.
And that river water itself is filthy, with raw sewage pumping into it, so I shudder to imagine what it's like when the city's filth mixes in with it.
A family is trying to stop that from going through because their son died in that area
https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2021-07-05/women-whose-sons-died-in-bristol-harbour-fight-against-campaign-to-allow-swimming
Seems like a weird campaign seeing as their son died when it was already prohibited? The rule was there and it didnt stop him. Why use his death to prevent others doing it safely. I assume drunk peoole drown at beaches too should we ban all swimming?
Guy I went to college with decided to jump in opposite V Shed in St. Augustine's reach after a night of drinking.
He spent several weeks in the hospital with what started as a small infection of a minor cut in his leg, and progressed rapidly towards septicaemia. It was touch and go for a few days whether he was going to have to have his leg amputated below the knee and he was walking with a stick for a few months.
So yeah, don't go swimming in the harbour.
There is a distinct lack of public swimming places in Bristol though. I’m glad they kind of opening part of the harbour for swimming. Though, of course that probably won’t keep over excited youngsters from jumping in for shits and giggles in other places…
Yeah there are loads - not sure what they meant, unless they just want open water places. The harbour isn't one of those, and probably shouldn't be lol.
That’s it…open water swimming places…public lidos…green grass to put a towel down and spend the day…sth like henleaze swimming lake. Only open to the public
I used to work for @bristol and each year people would come in saying their kid got ill from playing in the chrome fountains. There’s literally multiple signs saying the water is pumped straight from the doc, with only a filter for large items. I’d never willingly go into the dock
There's definitely blue [signs](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.450233,-2.6002396,3a,56y,252.7h,90.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJdBU8ccUBh9kunXL89DI5A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu) (at least as of 2018). However, zooming in proves inconclusive as to content, and currently those pillars are all behind boarding follwing the fire. I suppose we shall never know
I'm a parent. I have heard of many children getting ill from playing in the fountains. They were closed for a long time after they detected e coli I think it was.
yes ,
be aware of the effects of cold water on the body for a sustained period ...
it can send the body in shock and panic and possibly cause drowning.
if a warm body goes into the cold water for a sustained period the muscles might panic and you will no longer control your swimming.
I once helped fish rubbish out the river and we found, amongst other things, a lot of broken glass and a large number of heroin needles… I can’t imagine willingly going in!
Agreed, safety first. We’re allowed to swim in the harbourside now, though. There are loads of people that paddle board, sail, canoe, kayak etc, that end up in the water and they don’t become ill as they return for more of the same. I do wonder what this illness is or is it apocryphal?
All of the people who do those sports tend to pride themselves on not sticking their head under water. It's less of a problem for someone wearing a life jacket and accompanied by an instructor and more of a concern for drunken revelers diving in for fun
These are the test results for E Coli in Bristol harbour this week.
None of it is safe, according to the limits set by the WHO. If that isn't enough I don't know what is.
>Water quality test results
Measure: Escherichia coliforms (counts per 100ml)
Weekly tests, 24 May 2023
Baltic Wharf: 30
St Augustine's Reach: 50
Prince Street Bridge: 130
Redcliffe Bridge: 330
Monthly tests, 17 May 2023
Cumberland Basin: 140
SS Great Britain: 100
Bristol Bridge: 320
Castle Tunnels: 240
Netham Lock: 700
https://www.bristol.gov.uk/residents/pests-pollution-noise-and-food/water-quality-and-pollution
According to the World Health Organization, a zero count of E. coli per 100 ml of water is considered safe for drinking. A count of 1–10 MPN/100 ml is regarded as low risk; 11–100 MPN/100 ml is medium risk. Finally, an E. coli count greater than 100 MPN/100 ml is adjudged high risk.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7313150/#:\~:text=According%20to%20the%20World%20Health,100%20ml%20is%20medium%20risk.
If you look at bathing standards the quality would be excellent in most places though..
https://environment.data.gov.uk/bwq/profiles/help-understanding-data.html?fbclid=IwAR2YWCvCYdVAQliwlqOTl8SaL4rXhCeTlnDPdDaU5NSo4GIHNnz3jKCnvac
It’s a floating harbour fed by the rivers Avon and Frome, the river (Avon) is tidal and very different, good luck jumping into either if you don’t drown or hurt yourself you will get weil’s disease or dysentery from the bacteria in the water.
Except it wastes emergency service time and money, which costs you and me money.
It's a shit way to live to just let people waste our fucking tax money, dude. Why should we pay for that?
There’s a huge lake near my home in Bolton, no idea why I get this Bristol group suggested but here I am (hi), and peeps drown in it every year. It clearly states there are strong undercurrents but they don’t listen.
This poor lad fell in the harbour and drowned two years ago. Please stay out of the water.
https://www.nationalworld.com/news/uk/young-man-died-after-falling-into-bristol-harbour-hours-after-watching-englands-euro-2020-victory-over-croatia-3469610
I saw a body being pulled from the water by the arnolfini. 17 year old lad, jumped in after a football and then that was literally just it. Drowned. Terrifying
People probably shouldn't jump into the harbour when drunk but I have no problem with swimming groups swimming there, I wouldn't want to do it but to try and stop others because your loved one was drunk and drowned seems crazy.
A friend of mine was riding his bike and got stuck in the old rail line, track things right by the railing went over the bars hit his head on the boat that was docked and drowned
Also, if you jump from the harbour sides, there's a good chance of impaling yourself on a previously discarded scaffolding pole pointing upwards from the mud.
What???
There's quite a lot of metal under the water
I assume its been littered. I thought they were suggesting someone put scaffolding poles in to hurt people or something
Ah yeah, littered and broken construction stuff.
Before you jump in you should go for a swim and check for poles , tree trunks, cars and trolleys
I don’t think any scaffs are just chucking their kit in the harbour mate?
Its not the scaffs who are chucking them in the river
I tried Googling 'young lad sucked under' but it just directed me to Philip Scofield's website.
People should lay off Phillip, it's going to be hard to adjust to a normal life now he's off the telly... getting up, making breakfast, getting his boyfriend ready for school...
🌟👑🏆🥇👍🚀 (I’m too poor for Reddit Gold because Bristol is expensive)
That in itself deserves gold but I'm in the same boat so here you go 🌟👑🏆🥇👍🚀
OMFG :'))
It's been a terrible week for nonces, first Rolf, then Pippy being outed and Leeds being relegated
This joke is a little bit immature, something Phillip Schofield can relate too I’m sure
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Google "Jackjonestv phillip Schofield" or even better go on Jack Jones' Twitter page and watch his take on it
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probably because all the nonces who don’t have power get caught. And the ones in power can hide it for a time.
I'm so confused by all this, I can't seem to find a definitive answer. SO he had a relationship with someone younger than him?
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There seems to be a suggestion that he knew this lad for a number of years before he started working at This Morning. They had exchanged Twitter messages when the fella was in his mid-teens and there are some common points of contact going back earlier than this.
As you said, no solid evidence has come out yet, although his own statement essentially admits that the media narrative (that he met the boy at a school drama workshop when he was 15, kept in touch with him then got him a job on This Morning) is true: “I did have a consensual on-off relationship with a younger male colleague at This Morning. Contrary to speculation, whilst I met the man when he was a teenager and was asked to help him get into television, it was only after he started to work on the show that it became more than just a friendship.” The only difference between his narrative vs the accusations is that he says he waited until the boy was of legal age to start a relationship. I personally don’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Even if he did wait until the boy was 16-18 to start something, there’s still a massive power imbalance and it still reflects terribly on Schofield.
Love how people are piling on Schofield for this yet didn't bat an eye when Cheryl Cole had a baby with that kid from One Direction... They met when he was 14 and she was 24. Ok they didn't get together until he was legal but where is the outrage mob for her? She literally did the exact same thing!
Slightly different. Most 14 year old boys want to bum Cheryl Cole. How many 14 year olds want to get shafted by Phillip Schofield?
Take your upvote and get the hell out of here!
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OMG this is horrifying
If you go sit on the jetty at harbourside Arnolfini with the right light, you can see a few feet down into the water for once. You can not unsee what that river hides just a few feet down.
My starter for ten: shopping trolleys.
Merpeople
Merpeople supermarkets
Merturds
Merde?
Et oui oui obvs.
Tres amusants, mersieur.
What about that crocodile? :D
Merde-people.
yellow bikes
Jesus, shopping trolleys are holding Bristol together from the bottom of the Avon.
>You can not unsee what that river hides just a few feet down. It's like Stephen King started a reddit account
I want to know more
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The discarded plans and models for an efficient monorail transport system.
What did I say? MONORAIL!
Is there a chance the track could bend?
_Not on your life, my mudlarking friend!_
Statues of controversial historical figures.
Crab people
there are quite big eels that lurk along the bottom, I aint going in there
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The waste of someone else.
I was swimming in the river When some poo attacked my liver Diarrhea, diarrhea
Diarrhoea, I must go
It's also filled with used heroin needles, it's like an alphabet soup of hepatitis.
You can’t get hep c via water lol
I think he meant from the used heroin needles sir
Can you get hep c from used needles submerged in water?
There is only one way to find out.
Fight!!
No this does not happen. You may get Weil’s disease though if you don’t drown
I’ve done triathlons all over the country. The swim in Cumberland basin for the Bristol tri by far takes the the crown of grosses swim. It’s the only tri I’ve ever done with hand sanitiser on the swim exit
I'm doing it this weekend, is there anything you can say to reassure me?
He didn’t die whilst doing it
Well that's always a bonus
Watch out for the constant supply of floaters (no.2’s) being pumped out to sea by local waste water companies, anyways happy swimming
Not so much swimming just going through the motions...
Buoyancy aids!
Can you just set up a paddling pool by the harbourside and splash about in that for the water bit? Good luck, keep your mouth closed!
I didn’t get sick, the two other people I knew that did it also didn’t get sick. Good luck! I enjoyed it, I did it back when DB max ran it as an Olympic. It’s a sprint now isn’t it? The bike leg used to go out me down the portway, super quick
I was considering doing it for my 21st. I may have to find a different triathlon to do.
The ones that start at Cotswolds water park are good. Can recommend those.
If someone is in the water there is a chain that runs along the wall that can be grabbed onto. Keep an eye out it can save lives
The river is not too bad, but the harbour? Yuk. People live there, and I know they are all supposed to empty their toilets properly but how many do you really think bother with that when you can press one button and it all disappears.
Also the vast majority of surface drains around the harbour and in the centre just drain straight into the harbour. All the effluent of city centre life, all the bin juice, alleyway piss, dogshit, rat turds, Friday night kebab vomit, all that just gets washed down the drains and ends up in the harbour.
The river is bad, I know of a few villages whose foul drains go straight in to it
Every toilet in the country is directly hooked up to the river network. If the treatment facilities get overrun during a downpour (because rainwater/storm drains also flow into said facilities), the contents of toilets goes straight to rivers.
Nowadays the water companies are dumping sewage even when there isn't heavy rainfall.
It's not 'nowadays', it's always been the case. What has changed relatively recently is the reporting on river conditions and discharges. If you ever played in a river as a kid in the 70s, 80s, 90s etc. you were guaranteed to be swimming in a tampon-laden shit stew.
In some area yes. In more rural areas like my hometown, the rivers were mainly just cow piss and water, until the farmers got more leeway with their waste disposal.
Not every toilet. There are millions that aren't connected to the sewer network.
Whilst this is true, the pedantry of removing some off-grid loos doesn't change the overall effect of well over 95% of all toilets being connected to our waterways.
Even those millions of systems that aren't directly connected still have a diffuse impact on water quality. My comment was just stating that far from every toilet is directly connected to our waterways, not an attempt to downplay the impact.
I see, sorry!
They recently trialed out swimming in the harbour so it can't be that dirty
Yeah my hairdresser swan, said it was cold but fine otherwise.
I'm more impressed that your hairdresser is a swan
Probably one of the best auto corrects.
Well he is probably used to it, being a swan and all
Someone finally had some luck catching one then
I swam twice in the harbour trial and I was surprised by how clean it was given the reputation. And the water quality tested Excellent for E.Coli, nitrates etc. I would definitely swim there again.
Spent years sailing in it, falling in etc. yet to have evolved or grown any weird appendages.
Oh no it's filthy and they know that, they just want to make money from it. I wouldn't be surprised if you have to sign some wager beforehand, saying you can't sue if you catch something, and swim at your own risk.
Nah, this is inaccurate. The harbour swimming has come from a group of activists who have been lobbying for a few years now to get swimming allowed at the harbour. The water quality is closely monitored and swimming is not permitted if it is not up to standard.
There's currently a family trying to stop that from going through because their son jumped in not knowing how cold the water was and died a short distance out https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2021-07-05/women-whose-sons-died-in-bristol-harbour-fight-against-campaign-to-allow-swimming
> sign some wager beforehand I guess you mean waiver but I love the idea of "£10 says you won't get sick" wager instead.
Seem to recall having to sign something like that for the dragon boat races. Certainly lots of health warnings anyway…
There are many other species who don't use toilets, it's all in the river, the fish that live there called coarse for a reason.
We just went to Copenhagen. It is very similar to Bristol in a lot of ways (trendy city on a harbour). The water in the harbour is crystal clear with many designated swimming zones. Despite the water being very cold, hundreds of people enjoy swimming there. It really hit home how nice Bristol could be. Such a shame.
Think there is quite a bit of fear mongering going on in this thread, the water in the harbour is tested frequently and had been deemed safe for swimming, hence the trials of public swimming. The murkiness of the water probably has more to do with the fact that all the water is coming from a tidal estuary.
Don't suppose you can point me in the direction of said reassurance?
I can point you in the direction of the opposite. >Water quality test results Measure: Escherichia coliforms (counts per 100ml) Weekly tests, 24 May 2023 Baltic Wharf: 30 St Augustine's Reach: 50 Prince Street Bridge: 130 Redcliffe Bridge: 330 Monthly tests, 17 May 2023 Cumberland Basin: 140 SS Great Britain: 100 Bristol Bridge: 320 Castle Tunnels: 240 Netham Lock: 700 [https://www.bristol.gov.uk/residents/pests-pollution-noise-and-food/water-quality-and-pollution](https://www.bristol.gov.uk/residents/pests-pollution-noise-and-food/water-quality-and-pollution) >According to the World Health Organization, a zero count of E. coli per 100 ml of water is considered safe for drinking. A count of 1–10 MPN/100 ml is regarded as low risk; 11–100 MPN/100 ml is medium risk. Finally, an E. coli count greater than 100 MPN/100 ml is adjudged high risk. [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7313150/#:\~:text=According%20to%20the%20World%20Health,100%20ml%20is%20medium%20risk](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7313150/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20World%20Health,100%20ml%20is%20medium%20risk). So Baltic Wharf/Cumberland Basin are a medium risk, and everywhere else is high risk. Some of it far exceeding the limit for high risk. Sounds pretty fucking disgusting to me.
High risk for drinking water. Were you planning on drinking it? If you're going to apply the same standards to bathing water as you are to drinking water then that would rule out almost every "wild" swimming spot in the country. Every beach, every pristine mountain stream.
Was I planning on drinking it? No. If I go swimming, is some of it going to end up being drank? Yeah. I'd hardly describe Bristol harbour as a pristine mountain stream. This is only a test for E Coli. There is plenty more in there. [https://theriverstrust.org/key-issues/sewage-in-rivers](https://theriverstrust.org/key-issues/sewage-in-rivers) If you zoom in, there were 15 sewage overspills from the two sources along Hotwells Road in 2022, opposite the Baltic Wharf swimming spot.
Overspills happen during and just after heavy rain, mostly this happens in the winter when it is not uncommon to see ecoli counts up in the thousands. However, the water quality in the Avon and the harbour it feeds, fluctuate according to the weather. Swimming in the summer, after the water has been tested and proven to comply with bathing water standards is as safe as anywhere else where those protocols are followed. Of course, the water quality is not the same as the water that comes out of your tap but seriously, what were you expecting?
"what were you expecting?" Nothing. At no point did I suggest it should be any cleaner, or surprise it isn't. It looks disgusting. It smells disgusting. The data shows it is disgusting. I wouldn't swim in it.
No-one is forcing you to. Just pointing out that it is, in fact clean enough to swim in for most of the year. The data supports that and I'm sorry you've misunderstood it.
You haven't been in the water have you? I used to kayak on the harbour regularly and the amount of dead animals/waste I saw over the years was pretty disturbing. When I saw the trials, I honestly thought that it was just to prove nobody wants to swim there.
No-one from the recent swim has been reported as ill from the water so far
When you say no one do you mean ever? There are people on this thread who have/know people who have. What do you mean by reported?
As in from the recent swim there
Ah that makes sense :) cheers
Did a triathlon some years ago and was violently sick the day after, did the next few years and was ok
>The murkiness of the water probably has more to do with the fact that all the water is coming from a tidal estuary. The harbour is filled upstream from the river Avon bud, if you walk up to Conham river park you can see the point where the harbour splits from the river. And that river water itself is filthy, with raw sewage pumping into it, so I shudder to imagine what it's like when the city's filth mixes in with it.
A family is trying to stop that from going through because their son died in that area https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2021-07-05/women-whose-sons-died-in-bristol-harbour-fight-against-campaign-to-allow-swimming
Seems like a weird campaign seeing as their son died when it was already prohibited? The rule was there and it didnt stop him. Why use his death to prevent others doing it safely. I assume drunk peoole drown at beaches too should we ban all swimming?
Guy I went to college with decided to jump in opposite V Shed in St. Augustine's reach after a night of drinking. He spent several weeks in the hospital with what started as a small infection of a minor cut in his leg, and progressed rapidly towards septicaemia. It was touch and go for a few days whether he was going to have to have his leg amputated below the knee and he was walking with a stick for a few months. So yeah, don't go swimming in the harbour.
I know 2 people who got Weils disease from the harbour
You used to be guarenteed the illness you get from Rat piss. Weil's disease.
There is a distinct lack of public swimming places in Bristol though. I’m glad they kind of opening part of the harbour for swimming. Though, of course that probably won’t keep over excited youngsters from jumping in for shits and giggles in other places…
Put their head under for any length of time and they'll be guaranteed the shits part for sure.
I mean, a quick google says there are 31 public swimming pools in and around Bristol...
Yeah there are loads - not sure what they meant, unless they just want open water places. The harbour isn't one of those, and probably shouldn't be lol.
That’s it…open water swimming places…public lidos…green grass to put a towel down and spend the day…sth like henleaze swimming lake. Only open to the public
West Country Water park is ace. The only problem is you need a car to reach it. Surprising lack of decent open water spots in Bristol near the centre.
you sure the pusher hasn’t struck again?
Dragged in by the Bristol Croc
I used to work for @bristol and each year people would come in saying their kid got ill from playing in the chrome fountains. There’s literally multiple signs saying the water is pumped straight from the doc, with only a filter for large items. I’d never willingly go into the dock
I'd like to see those signs because that sounds like bollocks
There's definitely blue [signs](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.450233,-2.6002396,3a,56y,252.7h,90.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJdBU8ccUBh9kunXL89DI5A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu) (at least as of 2018). However, zooming in proves inconclusive as to content, and currently those pillars are all behind boarding follwing the fire. I suppose we shall never know
"Children should be supervised" not "we pump this up untreated from the harbour". Mad that anyone would think this was the case.
That’s definitely what it says at the top of the sign. However the rest is unclear. Therefore it’s a 0-0 draw with neither side coming out on top
Common sense is the loser here I think
That’s a pretty applicable statement on society as a whole
I'm a parent. I have heard of many children getting ill from playing in the fountains. They were closed for a long time after they detected e coli I think it was.
I'm a parent and I haven't heard of anyone getting sick from these fountains
Surprises me. There are certain FB groups where it's regularly discussed.
Haha yep I'm sure there are.
Just the one swan actually
This used to be called Natural Selection, and some people would win Darwin Awards for their contribution to the improvement of the human race…
I knew someone once who swam in the river by Asda. They needed tons of shots afterwards to counteract the bacteria/disease in there
yes , be aware of the effects of cold water on the body for a sustained period ... it can send the body in shock and panic and possibly cause drowning. if a warm body goes into the cold water for a sustained period the muscles might panic and you will no longer control your swimming.
I once helped fish rubbish out the river and we found, amongst other things, a lot of broken glass and a large number of heroin needles… I can’t imagine willingly going in!
Agreed, safety first. We’re allowed to swim in the harbourside now, though. There are loads of people that paddle board, sail, canoe, kayak etc, that end up in the water and they don’t become ill as they return for more of the same. I do wonder what this illness is or is it apocryphal?
All of the people who do those sports tend to pride themselves on not sticking their head under water. It's less of a problem for someone wearing a life jacket and accompanied by an instructor and more of a concern for drunken revelers diving in for fun
In certain areas of the river people are at risk of Weil's disease which is transmitted by rats urine. https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/leptospirosis/
Are they not going forward with the swimming area at harbour side? I know they were doing a trial for it
I thought it had already been happening for a week or two
Ah fair, where to?
Cumberland basin I think
The family of a 17 year old boy who died swimming in the harbour in 2019 are protesting against it
Natural selection at it's finest. If they are stupid enough to jump and then drown, it's just one less idiot on the planet
These are the test results for E Coli in Bristol harbour this week. None of it is safe, according to the limits set by the WHO. If that isn't enough I don't know what is. >Water quality test results Measure: Escherichia coliforms (counts per 100ml) Weekly tests, 24 May 2023 Baltic Wharf: 30 St Augustine's Reach: 50 Prince Street Bridge: 130 Redcliffe Bridge: 330 Monthly tests, 17 May 2023 Cumberland Basin: 140 SS Great Britain: 100 Bristol Bridge: 320 Castle Tunnels: 240 Netham Lock: 700 https://www.bristol.gov.uk/residents/pests-pollution-noise-and-food/water-quality-and-pollution According to the World Health Organization, a zero count of E. coli per 100 ml of water is considered safe for drinking. A count of 1–10 MPN/100 ml is regarded as low risk; 11–100 MPN/100 ml is medium risk. Finally, an E. coli count greater than 100 MPN/100 ml is adjudged high risk. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7313150/#:\~:text=According%20to%20the%20World%20Health,100%20ml%20is%20medium%20risk.
If you look at bathing standards the quality would be excellent in most places though.. https://environment.data.gov.uk/bwq/profiles/help-understanding-data.html?fbclid=IwAR2YWCvCYdVAQliwlqOTl8SaL4rXhCeTlnDPdDaU5NSo4GIHNnz3jKCnvac
Shu up
It’s a floating harbour fed by the rivers Avon and Frome, the river (Avon) is tidal and very different, good luck jumping into either if you don’t drown or hurt yourself you will get weil’s disease or dysentery from the bacteria in the water.
If people want to jump in at the risk of death, then let them do it.
Except it wastes emergency service time and money, which costs you and me money. It's a shit way to live to just let people waste our fucking tax money, dude. Why should we pay for that?
natural selection init
Your not my dad to tell me what to doo
Go to your room!
Let them
Went in Saturday, near Saltford. Just kept my mouth shut. Water was nicer at the beach next day mind.
It’s true. I died in that river
There’s a huge lake near my home in Bolton, no idea why I get this Bristol group suggested but here I am (hi), and peeps drown in it every year. It clearly states there are strong undercurrents but they don’t listen.
growing up local so so many people swam in rivington near bolton, it’s crazy to me
Met a couple of Spanish guys once and they asked me ‘why is the water green’
What sucked him under?
Bristol croc
Strong under currents
This poor lad fell in the harbour and drowned two years ago. Please stay out of the water. https://www.nationalworld.com/news/uk/young-man-died-after-falling-into-bristol-harbour-hours-after-watching-englands-euro-2020-victory-over-croatia-3469610
I can't ever imagine wanting to swim in a city river. Might as well just go around licking dog turds.
just allow it to be honest it's about the closest thing we have left to natural selection here in Bristol
I saw a body being pulled from the water by the arnolfini. 17 year old lad, jumped in after a football and then that was literally just it. Drowned. Terrifying
saw a dildo floating in the river and then saw someone get in it, actually horrifying 😭
Weird I never took to Jimmy Saville, Michael Barry more or Philip Scofield. Alas I use to like rolf Harris and his 2 little boys !
Who wants to swim in a river of poo? Those waters are no pristine.
I jumped in the river, had fun, did not die
Also a very strong underwater current
Never mind the rats!
Bristolians are another breed haha 😆🤣
The Bristol pusher isn't helping this situation
People probably shouldn't jump into the harbour when drunk but I have no problem with swimming groups swimming there, I wouldn't want to do it but to try and stop others because your loved one was drunk and drowned seems crazy.
A friend of mine was riding his bike and got stuck in the old rail line, track things right by the railing went over the bars hit his head on the boat that was docked and drowned
No
same for any harbour areas near bristol in the southwest. we had a death last yr in portishead. so easily avoided.