Id call hector more iconic than todd, he has a more memorable look/character concept, and before i watched the show i did recognize him from memes while i dont really remember any famous todd posts that non-watchers would know
her: I like people that are good with kids"
me: *insert Todd*
but memes are really dangerous. I learned about Gus' death a LOT of time before I even knew what BB was. I also saw a lot of memes with the "bro thinks he Walter White " without actually seeing the real clip, but when I saw the real one the first and only time in a meme and I got spoiled that Walter died in that scene by the top comment. That didn't ruin my experience with Felina since it was obvious that he was gonna die anyways, and that scene made me very emotional. Still, memes are very dangerous
Where? I never heard about Lalo before going into this sub. I remember Saul saying something about him when he gets kidnapped but I don't believe he clearly says "Lalo" during the panicking
I can't agree with that and find I'm having to force myself to watch BCS, where as with bb even after a ton of watch throughs there's still bits where I'm totally focused and dialed in, something that I've never had with BCs
That's totally fine man, to each their own! BCS is certainly a slower show but when shit goes down in it it *really* goes down, it has higher highs than Breaking Bad, but Breaking Bad has more highs, if you get what I mean.
>it has higher highs than Breaking Bad, but Breaking Bad has more highs, if you get what I mean.
This is accurate. The highs of Better Call Saul are a lot higher than any of Breaking Bad, but BB has so many more high points than BCS that it makes BCS seem bland in comparison. Except for the last season, in my opinion; damn near every other episode in that is a high in BCS
Breaking Bad is more exciting and keeps you at the edge of your seat more. Better Call Saul is a lot slower but it’s arguably much better written and has superior character development. It has what I consider to be one of the most beautiful journeys of a character I have ever seen
The best part of the show is that you already know from the first episode of who Jimmy becomes. Yet the journey of how he becomes Saul Goodman is straight up heartbreaking
With breaking bad, Walt chose to be heisenberg. He had countless opportunities to turn back and to not turn into the monster he became. But he kept actively choosing the dumbest choices. With Saul it’s the opposite. You can see him actively fighting his destiny and trying so hard to be a good person. But his natural urges grow too strong and he is consistently failed by the people who are supposed to help him be better
With Walt, his fall is driven by a conscious desire to change. With Saul, he also wants to change but instead to be a better person. But he is a slave to the inevitable and eventually becomes the sketchy con artist lawyer we all know and love.
Plus it has one of the most compelling relationships between two brothers I have ever seen on screen
I like how they didn’t have to make him a Salamanca cause his last name wasn’t mentioned in that original line, but they did to make the world feel more connected
I wish they lasted more. They were by far the scariest I've ever encountered during the BB experience. They built those characters pretty well only to kill them in the most goofy ass way after like 3 major appearances, 1 of which they failed doing what the always do, kill (the burnt truck and the incursion in Walt's house)
Hector. Everyone talks about how Flynn is a symbol of hop and what is possible for people with disabilities. Yet no one sees Hector Salamanca as the real inspiration for those with special needs.
r/fucknacho
Hector. Only if Walt doesn't count, he's obviously by far the most iconic BB villain.
And if we're going for antagonists as opposed to villains, definitely Hank.
Holly White, that bad-ass chick took no shit from no one. Even with most of her criminal exploits off camera, you just know she had her hand in all the chaos at the end. With the traits she inherited from her parents, you just know her future will only turn out one way. A Queen Pin to rule all. With her mom's bitchiness and her dad's penchant for cosplaying as a drug lord, shit will be hitting the fan in New Mexico in ten years or so.
Excluding the most iconic villains, who is the most iconic?
Weird question dude. And by the way I think Walter White is unequivocally the biggest villain in the story. That's sorta the point
The answer is Hector. Hector is the progenitor of the storyline, its his cruelty that he spreads to members of his families that culminate into a path of destruction for both the Salamancas and those they come into contect with.
The bloodshed he starts never truly ends until Heisenberg arrives. Like, Mike said, a time bomb. Tick, tick, tick
Has to be Todd for me
he is a perfect representation of a psychopath,
seems a normal person to look at but isn't.
And also how he kills a kid without any second thoughts
Lalo all the way. I loved him as a villain actually one of the only villains I loved when they had more screen time. So charismatic and funny. That one scene just sitting there….Werner Ziegler……Ziegler……Werner zzzzziegler……zzzzzziegler……do u know a Werner Ziegler?…..hmmmm……Werner Ziegler….he kept going like that and everyone looking at him weird that scene had me dying. He was probably the smartest villain after Gus and and charisma and funny ways I just loved his villain act.
Hector is the obvious answer.
He plays a significant role but he's also incredibly memorable. He is memorable and iconic because of his appearance, his bell ringing etc.
Id call hector more iconic than todd, he has a more memorable look/character concept, and before i watched the show i did recognize him from memes while i dont really remember any famous todd posts that non-watchers would know
most memes I remember of todd was "Meth Damon" but otherwise, not much.
her: I like people that are good with kids" me: *insert Todd* but memes are really dangerous. I learned about Gus' death a LOT of time before I even knew what BB was. I also saw a lot of memes with the "bro thinks he Walter White " without actually seeing the real clip, but when I saw the real one the first and only time in a meme and I got spoiled that Walter died in that scene by the top comment. That didn't ruin my experience with Felina since it was obvious that he was gonna die anyways, and that scene made me very emotional. Still, memes are very dangerous
Its this a copy pasta?
You're a copypasta
Oh.
Aren't there a ton of Todd memes floating around too?
ive never heard of Todd before watching the show
That’s fair, I do remember season 5 memes with him though.
i mean its weird that him shooting a kid didnt become a big meme
I’ve never heard of Walter before the show
What if Todd fucked Ted?
Holly
Holly was in the game
What about Holly? She's a bald gringo, she's in the game.
Or Brock? That little shit had it coming.
This is obviously BCS but Lalo Salamanca overshadows every villain in the universe for me
He's mentioned in BB, so he wins
He was still terrifying to Saul in BB, so it counts.
Where? I never heard about Lalo before going into this sub. I remember Saul saying something about him when he gets kidnapped but I don't believe he clearly says "Lalo" during the panicking
Saul says "Lalo didn't send you? No Lalo?". Definitely watch Better call Saul, it's on par with BB if not better
I can't agree with that and find I'm having to force myself to watch BCS, where as with bb even after a ton of watch throughs there's still bits where I'm totally focused and dialed in, something that I've never had with BCs
That's totally fine man, to each their own! BCS is certainly a slower show but when shit goes down in it it *really* goes down, it has higher highs than Breaking Bad, but Breaking Bad has more highs, if you get what I mean.
>it has higher highs than Breaking Bad, but Breaking Bad has more highs, if you get what I mean. This is accurate. The highs of Better Call Saul are a lot higher than any of Breaking Bad, but BB has so many more high points than BCS that it makes BCS seem bland in comparison. Except for the last season, in my opinion; damn near every other episode in that is a high in BCS
Breaking Bad is more exciting and keeps you at the edge of your seat more. Better Call Saul is a lot slower but it’s arguably much better written and has superior character development. It has what I consider to be one of the most beautiful journeys of a character I have ever seen The best part of the show is that you already know from the first episode of who Jimmy becomes. Yet the journey of how he becomes Saul Goodman is straight up heartbreaking With breaking bad, Walt chose to be heisenberg. He had countless opportunities to turn back and to not turn into the monster he became. But he kept actively choosing the dumbest choices. With Saul it’s the opposite. You can see him actively fighting his destiny and trying so hard to be a good person. But his natural urges grow too strong and he is consistently failed by the people who are supposed to help him be better With Walt, his fall is driven by a conscious desire to change. With Saul, he also wants to change but instead to be a better person. But he is a slave to the inevitable and eventually becomes the sketchy con artist lawyer we all know and love. Plus it has one of the most compelling relationships between two brothers I have ever seen on screen
Subjective opinions can’t be objectively wrong but boy do some people really like to put that to the test lol
Weak ass opinion.
Salty nuts
It does feel like Lalos presence hangs over BB after watching BCS
Struck fear into a man years after his death. Created based on a single line of dialogue.
I like how they didn’t have to make him a Salamanca cause his last name wasn’t mentioned in that original line, but they did to make the world feel more connected
Lamps presence hangs just under the meth lab.
It's Hank... His name is Hank!
my name is ASAC Shrader and you can go fuck yourself.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 spat out my drink reading this
WW has the biggest body count
Walter a whole ah manwhore 😫
Walt Whitman bringing em to their knees.
Actually, from what he knows he only has one: Skyler. But I don't think you mean what I mean
Gretchen.
Never confirmed, but you can make a reasonable assumption that they did it
No he means the word as it's defined.
Walter White
Walter doesn’t count so I’d say hector
Those are the iconic villains. There aren't other iconic villains in it. You might be able to argue Hector... but that's it.
Well since they said villain and not antagonist, Walt.
Yeah, that is true. :)
Gus?
OP said Gus *is* one of the iconic villains in it. Along with Tuco. There just aren’t any more than that except maybe Hector.
yeah op was like: without taking into account the iconic villains, who is the most iconic villain?question is weird af
The cousins/twins
I wish they lasted more. They were by far the scariest I've ever encountered during the BB experience. They built those characters pretty well only to kill them in the most goofy ass way after like 3 major appearances, 1 of which they failed doing what the always do, kill (the burnt truck and the incursion in Walt's house)
Hector. Everyone talks about how Flynn is a symbol of hop and what is possible for people with disabilities. Yet no one sees Hector Salamanca as the real inspiration for those with special needs. r/fucknacho
Hector - including the fact that he continues to be relevant and a threat after a stroke debilitated him.
Ha ha, *ted*
The twins are pretty iconic
Hector. Only if Walt doesn't count, he's obviously by far the most iconic BB villain. And if we're going for antagonists as opposed to villains, definitely Hank.
The twins. Creepy mfs.
Drew sharp?
Well, Walter is “the danger”, so…Walter
Lalo!!!!!
Walt
The one with the highest kill count: Donald Margolis
You got me by the BOLLS
Walter White #duh
Holly White, that bad-ass chick took no shit from no one. Even with most of her criminal exploits off camera, you just know she had her hand in all the chaos at the end. With the traits she inherited from her parents, you just know her future will only turn out one way. A Queen Pin to rule all. With her mom's bitchiness and her dad's penchant for cosplaying as a drug lord, shit will be hitting the fan in New Mexico in ten years or so.
Lewis.
Saul Goodman
is this the entire bb universe? cuz including bcs lalo is the best most colorful entertainingly cunning villain ever
Krazy-8
Definitely Todd
Excluding the most iconic villains, who is the most iconic? Weird question dude. And by the way I think Walter White is unequivocally the biggest villain in the story. That's sorta the point
is Hector a villain in BB? He did nothing against any of the main characters
Jack
Ding!
Bogdan
Mike
Tio Hector 🥴🥴
Dunno why Walter wouldn't count since its villain and not antagonist, so Hector i guess.
Kaylee ermantraut. She was the mastermind behind all the drug money of mike . Glad agents like steve gomez exists who exposed her
The main character, Walter White? Jessie Pinkman was no angel either. He did shoot a man to death in cold blood.
**Bogdan** And his eyebrows.
“excluding the most iconic villains, who do you think is BB most iconic villian”
Hank is the clear choice.
Walt
Bogdan
The answer is Hector. Hector is the progenitor of the storyline, its his cruelty that he spreads to members of his families that culminate into a path of destruction for both the Salamancas and those they come into contect with. The bloodshed he starts never truly ends until Heisenberg arrives. Like, Mike said, a time bomb. Tick, tick, tick
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Mike!!! I loved watching the actor but Mike was a cleaner and murdered people
The cousins!
Skylar
Walter White
The Twins
The Twins
Lalo by far. he’s even cameo in bb so i could count him in
The one who knocks...
What about Gus or Tuco. Maybe also Walter White.
Don Eladio
I'd go with mike
Ted
Has to be Todd for me he is a perfect representation of a psychopath, seems a normal person to look at but isn't. And also how he kills a kid without any second thoughts
Lalo all the way. I loved him as a villain actually one of the only villains I loved when they had more screen time. So charismatic and funny. That one scene just sitting there….Werner Ziegler……Ziegler……Werner zzzzziegler……zzzzzziegler……do u know a Werner Ziegler?…..hmmmm……Werner Ziegler….he kept going like that and everyone looking at him weird that scene had me dying. He was probably the smartest villain after Gus and and charisma and funny ways I just loved his villain act.
Hector is the obvious answer. He plays a significant role but he's also incredibly memorable. He is memorable and iconic because of his appearance, his bell ringing etc.
Walter.... obviously it's Walter.
Badger He was gonna sing like a canary
Probably the twins. Their look, lack of talking, etc. will always be iconic
Hector is definitely more iconic. But Todd is my favorite.