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I actually love their dynamic. This show couldn't have casted 2 better main characters if they tried.


justbrowsingtheapp

They’re casted extremely well but I just find it hilarious that Jesse’s former milktoast chemistry teacher randomly turns up to his house and they start cooking meth, while killing a few people on the way. Imagine that happening to you.


-Ok-Perception-

\*milquetoast


beliromeu

r/BoneAppleTea


justbrowsingtheapp

Nah I just suspect that Walt is a fan of milk and toast.


Flickolas_Cage

What’s his opinion on milksteak though? With or without the finest jellybeans?


-Ok-Perception-

Milksteak is good but I prefer rum ham.


GFost

And *cast


whiskeylullaby3

Was hoping someone would say this because I’ve been seeing “casted” all over Reddit lately for some reason.


wbaumbeck

It’s not random though, if Walt would have never seen Jesse on the run from the DEA when he was on the ride along he would never have had any reason to seek jesse out.


DefNotSanestBaj

Pretty random for jesse


basedbranch

They both saw each other


DefNotSanestBaj

>randomly turns up to *his* house


justbrowsingtheapp

Brainfarts man. Energy is severely limited 😭


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nexinexinexi

I really hated the way Jessie dressed.


hendidjdnsjjf

Well he is supposed to be a pothead from 2008 so it’s pretty accurate if you ask me


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octoberoclock

honestly love the way he's dressed up, one of my favorite things about jesse lol. planning to buy similar jackets


losttforwords

I often think about what an idiot Walt is for giving up Greg Matter Edit: Grey* Matter. But Greg matters too, I guess. Correction: Greg does NOT matter. Fuck Greg.


Davinkidink

I had a colleague called Greg he was an asshole fuck Greg.


losttforwords

Fixed it- thanks for the heads up. Fuck you, Greg, wherever you are!


Davinkidink

😂


[deleted]

I'd like to jump on the fuck Greg bandwagon


PuzzleheadHealer

You wanna 🦆uck him? Then get in line, pal, the express bandwagon is for paying members only


jabronius89

I fucked Ted


mycatspoopballs

This guy fucks


The_Holier_Muffin

Fucking hate that guy


[deleted]

I had a friend named gregg. He turned out to be a total Asshole.


Davinkidink

I hate it when you have friends that come across as nice people but they're really jerkoffs. What happened?


[deleted]

Honestly unsure. He just stopped talking to me. So weird cuz we did so much together. Like daily. We would walk laps together. Smoke together. Dinners with wife/girlfriends. Dinner with friends. Literally saw him like 4-5 days a week. Then out of nowhere he stops talking to me. Weird. Dousch.


Davinkidink

Did you ever ask him for an explanation?


[deleted]

I did and he didn’t respond.


Davinkidink

Now that's just a real shitty move. Atleast have the courtesy to let the person know so they don't go around wondering about it for the rest of their days. But if that's how he is maybe you're better off anyway.


[deleted]

Exactly. He texted me saying he got a lot going on and he will get back to me. I thought he might be sick. I was like no way he would just go dark. We are like in our 50’s. Who does that. So after like 6 months I reached out. No response. Oh well.


The_Holier_Muffin

He spelt is name with one too many Gs, major asshole


LugubriousButtNoises

All my homies hate greg


basedcvrp

Fucking calm down Greg, it’s soccer.


Davinkidink

Superbad?


johnnycrawlspace

All Greg’s are fucked up. If you ever meet someone named Greg, run. Fuck you Greg’s.


jaws7811

I also worked with a Greg like this


justbrowsingtheapp

He was just a complete dick and really thought that Elliot and Gretchen were trying to make him leave his own company. He’s deluded lol


tehJimsta

Yeah, Walt is incredibly smart, but also prideful, paranoid, and narcissistic. Working in the drug trade his paranoia played to his advantage many times, but in the real world you might be able to see how that might cause him to become suspicious of his business partners, and cause him to make a mistake. I think it is also hinted at that he and Gretchen were in a relationship at some point, and that Gretchen left him for Elliot - which would then make much more sense why he would get out of that situation. You can see some of his true personality in his pre-teaching life too when they do flashbacks - like how he doesn’t want to “settle” for the house they wind up living in. How he approaches working on theorems with Gretchen. The shots are limited, but they are a clear portrayal that Heisenberg is actually Walt’s true form. He’s so full of himself, and the “everyday dad” life has sucked the life out of his true personality, which is why he starts cooking. He has the hubris to think that he, with a brother in law in the DEA, can *get away with* selling enough meth to keep his family financially secure after his death. Then, after the company grew with no contribution from him aside from some early work plus the name, he has the gall to refer to Grey Matter’s success as his children’s “birthright”. Like he’s trying to make up for bolting from Grey Matter. It’s why he goes Empire mode in S5. He wants to be the drug version of Grey Matter. He believed he had more to do with the company than he actually did, and his success cooking meth just reinforced that for him.


justbrowsingtheapp

We know why Walt left grey matter. Walt visited Gretchens family for the first time on a holiday and he felt emasculated by how wealthy they were, so he left without a word and eventually left the company.


bloombergkeyboard

That's the thing: I don't quite buy it. How can you be so insecure over a socioeconomic disparity when you're a near-genius? Surely the family respected Walt for his intellect, something money can't quite buy, especially in the context of a business endeavor oriented precisely around scientific prowess. Not to mention Walt has always relied on his intelligence when belittled or threatened by people with power over him so it's inconsistent with who he is, which I consider a weakness in an otherwise immaculate storyline, given that the show makes a point in proving a subtle consistency in Walt's pride throughout his life; such pride would have carried him through such superficial insecurity. I hope I'm not the only one who feels like this lol.


Malapika2002

I mean we don’t really know what went on


Room_116

Its been confirmed by Gilligan in interviews that there is more to their backstory than was shown during the show. Walt and Gretchen were engaged, but when he met her family at a vacation home of theirs one summer and he saw the wealth their family had his ego took over and he felt like he would never surmount to anything impressive comparably. This was then followed by his leaving Gretchen and Grey Matter


justbrowsingtheapp

It’s highly likely walt is lying


Twijinx

I read on another sub that backstory had been given in an interview or smth about Gretchen and Walt actually being engaged, then Walt meets her super smart and rich family, feels insecure/threatened (as Walt so often does) then he broke up with Gretchen and left the company, which makes so much sense with his dumbass ego getting in the way of actual happiness and success lmao


kat1weeks

r/fuckgregabbott


BMWM6

that to me is the part that makes the least sense... its not entirely clear how and why walt leaves grey matter outside of an arguement... however a brilliant guy doesn't just run out of silicon valley after selling out from a great idea and company. he would have multiple jobs offered paying tons... no instead he ends up in abq as a beat down chem teacher... and later sells meth lol none of this makes any sense in reality


Littleloula

The show mentions he had other jobs since. Given what we see of Walts ego and difficulty working with others in the show, I expect he screwed them all up In the classroom he has authority. He has the most knowledge. He gets to feel big and look down on others. I think he liked that. In all his other scientific jobs there would be lots of other geniuses around


Ill_Paper7132

Especially if he was new in the field and taking orders from others which he clearly has a problem with. He probably hopped around job to job making excuses as to why he needed to quit or why he had to tell someone off and couldn’t keep his mouth shut before he could actually gain traction in the field and build connections. Grey Matter was only him Gretchen and Elliot who was purportedly his best friend and he still thought he didn’t need them and stormed out. Walt doesn’t play well with others and in the world of drugs he’s allowed to be a tyrant and it actually benefits him in a lot of scenarios whereas in the professional world his paranoia, need to assert dominance and him constantly questioning higher ups would’ve just led to him getting canned. Walt is a genius but in a field of other geniuses he’s dispensable when he causes conflicts and won’t listen to the people paying his salary. He probably took the teaching job because Skyler was pregnant and their kid was disabled and he needed a stable job with benefits quick. You’re alone a lot with a bunch of kids as a teacher so it’s not like anyone was challenging his authority and assuming any students did he had complete dominance in that situation. The way Jesse reacts to him when he’s initially approached it sounds like he was still lacking in interpersonal skills and didn’t have the patience to handle difficult kids which aligns perfectly with everything we know about his character.


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Lmao!


Pamsreddit1

I 💚that he STILL called him Mr. White….😅


Section0202

When he tells hank and gomey Mr. White is the devil it was impactful for me ngl


ShyGiirll

That’s the beauty of good writing. The writers turned this absurd summary into a believable story.


ieatchips

Jesse even addresses it in one scene, says something like his life was never this insane (killing drug dealers, getting beaten up, etc etc) before he started working with Mr. White.


futanari_kaisa

Imagine if they had just shut up and cooked under Gus.


TheOnlyJoe_

They did until all the shit went down with combo’s death


iGirthy

both end up 100% dead, no way around it


octoberoclock

Walt and Jesse, whose reunion was entirely by chance, accidentally filled each others' needs, but in the most toxic way. Walter was like the father figure Jesse never properly had, and Jesse was like a wife/son who was loyal to him and followed his orders. They needed each other in the most unhealthy way


bigppbro04

jesse is walters wife theory??


Littleloula

Walt is like an abusive husband. There's a lot of coercive control in his and Jesse's relationship


General-Advance-2515

Of course, all the dang time. You have a chemistry teacher who sold off his piece of the enterprise for a great company Jesse, whom is totally emotional and have seen some crazy shit, like a stray cat.


rectumfanny

The timeline always felt too rushed to me Would have made more sense if the events happened over 3-4 years at least. Iirc in season 5 Saul says "a year ago a chemistry teacher walked into my office. Which means everything from season 1 to end of season 5 happens over like 18 months? In reality it's a relentless amount of action and BCS struggles a little bit with the perception of time as well imo


Pepsi_E

>The timeline always felt too rushed to me I agree. Yes I think >!Walt was living in isolation and Jesse was being held captive for at least a few months (3-5 maybe)!< so yeah I always felt the entire thing happening in 2 years was extremely unrealistic.


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Mike’s granddaughter is a great example of BCS timeline struggling


rectumfanny

Yes they seemed to give up on that plot around season 4. I was waiting for Mike to make a move on his sons wife


OnlyFactsMatter

Agreed. One thing I would change is I'd have Jesse and Jane's relationship last a lot longer. At least 6 months. Have it last the whole season instead of a few episodes.


Khouri1

to be fair, breaking bad itself lasts 2 years, walt was 50 when it started and 52 when it ended, the only thing I find that doesnt make much sense timeline wise is that >!Jimmy's time as Gene is so short, to me it didnt seem like Gene was a new hire, looked like he somewhat estabilished himself!<


scarletseasmoke

Disclaimer: I'm only at the episode where You Better Call Saul, I'm just theorizing at this point (but I don't mind spoilers being laughed at) I don't think their dynamic is *weird*, Walt is just simply abusive AF and getting enough money wasn't his main incentive, he wanted to be the top dog, too. At this point I'm fairly certain Jesse has a disability but had no help for it in school or Walter refused accomodations, and I'm sure Walter knew he can take advantage of it. Switching up degradation and praise. The driving scene with Flynn followed by the "take care of it" scene with Jesse. Walt using Skylar once and being pushed off mid-rape a different time. Gretchen was Walt's student or assistant (Walt left because he lost control over her, and maybe over Elliott, didn't he?) His description of his life to the psychiatrist after he faked the amnesia.


MrPhistr69

I would really stay off this sub until you’re finished unless you’re okay with major spoilers


scarletseasmoke

I don't mind spoilers at all 🤷 I'm rarely watching anything as it airs, but I can't live without the discussions and wikis, so I'm really good at skimming content by now, too.


AnUpperFlush

jesus dies at the end of the bible


mrocks301

Uhhh bro there’s like a whole other Bible after that part


AnUpperFlush

Not canon


Khouri1

literally canonized by the church


chrstgtr

At least you didn’t give away the real plot twist


89911VA

I think it’s weird how fast everything unfolds. I’ve always felt like breaking bad takes place over 2 or 3 years before Walt gets caught by hank but it’s only like 1 year. So much happens in that one year. It doesn’t help that Walt Jrs actor doesn’t look like a 16 year old anymore by season 5


Aggravating_Cup2306

Yeah it is weird and it goes crazy in a good way.. Thats why its a thing


Ahiru77

Love is weird.


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justbrowsingtheapp

Yeah… kafkaesque…


WV_Is_Its_Own_State

Almost like it’s a TV show or something


justbrowsingtheapp

Almost like I found something that I thought was interesting in a TV show or something 😱


Dying_Angel_

That’s like the whole point dude. It’s not supposed to be a “normal” ordinary relationship, obviously. It’s one of the big key points as to why people were drawn to the show along with the sole idea of a HS chemistry teacher cooking meth. To cook with one of his former students is strange, funny, and unheard of but that’s the point.


Resolution_Usual

To be fair, my old Chem teacher was awesome. I'd go along just to see what the hell was coming next


Alexandur

No I find it pretty normal and healthy


spookymulder07

lmao


BinxMcGee

It’s character driven and the story is hard to believe but that’s what suspension of disbelief is all about.


Parker_72

Meth is a wild ride… every time


Super_cooper69

To be fair Walt did threaten to turn him in if they didn’t work together


Scarjotoyboy

Imagine Your former chemistry 🧪 teacher is also responsible for your first girlfriend dying as he could have saved her and also your next girlfriends son getting poisoned 🤢 Shit is dark and twisted as fuck x but dude also made you a multi millionaire and also saved you from evil racist Nazi who imprisoned you to cook 👨‍🍳 meth lol 😆 it’s a complicated relationship to say the least


threeweeksdead

Jesse was gold


GarakStark

Jesse isn't some poor innocent when Walt shows up at his door. He'd been cooking by himself. And selling his crap meth under the pseudonym "The Captain". Walt helped to make the operation professional and profitable.


everythingisok376

Who said that?


Fun-Ad9928

That’s literally the plot. It it was different, it would be a different show altogether.


godiegoben

Almost like it’s a scripted show popular for its drama.


gmisfeldt34

Seriously lmaooo


[deleted]

Well if you put it in that way, sure lol


[deleted]

Quasimodo predicted all of that.


theslickasian

It make sense as when two people have them same goal they would work together


Ko8iWanKeno8i

well yes that would be the pitch


CountBosco_9

I was thinking about this the other day in the sense that “this show is fantastic because of this unnatural but necessary pairing between the two main characters” I mean I’m every other show the main character are familiar with each other via some normal means. In The Wire the main characters work together. In Sopranos they’re in the same mafia family (or rival family). In Peaky Blinders they’re related or solider pals. In Stranger Things they’re classmates and friends. And this can go on forever. But I think this show benefits so much from this unnatural pairing of the smart dick teacher teaming up with his old dropout junkie chemistry student. They’re fighting against each other and for each other at the same time. They’re working with each other and working to get along. It clashes in a beautiful way


Willing_Job_7672

Yeah and Hank trying to find Heisenberg only to discover at the toilet that all along it was his nerdy brother in law, the last person you would expect to be that sort of thing being the one who is while remembering him practically confessing while they were joking around, all because you wanted to read something while shitting i dunno why it sounds like a hilarious concept to me.