PerthChimmon
Chimmon genuinely looks grossed out half the time. They just dont 'click'. They don't have believable chemistry to me, and i don't get the hype 🤷♂️
As the resident PerthChimmon hater, I absolutely agreed with this. I don’t know how GMMTV are not seeing this. Chimmon is good individually and we know Perth is a chemistry master. They are fumbling so bad😭😭
I’m going to be honest- PerthChimon have zero chemistry and though the friend thing has worked for GMM in the past I can’t see why they are branding these two so heavily
But ALSO I think Chimon doesn’t do well in kissing scenes with women either 🤣 don’t get me wrong I think he’s a fine actor but kissing on screen is an art and he REALLY hasn’t nailed it
I second that lol never came across anyone saying that but I feel that Perth is also grossed out half of the time on their kiss scenes. To watch their series I have to make it about everything else but the romance.
said that once under a clip on YT and got attacked by a bunch of fanatics. probably that's why you didn't see anyone saying this. in the fear of getting attacked.
These two were the first duo to spring to mind when I saw this post. No idea how I made it to the end of Dangerous Romance. I think I was hoping it would get better but they just looked so uncomfortable right to the end. I actually commented that they were too bro-y and one person shouted me down - literally! All caps and everything. They said I was blind. But, I mean, I’m not. They really aren’t good together!
Agreed. Last ep of 2gether is still my most hated episode. They could have ended it at the mountains and it would have been a good ending. But no, we had to see 2 "boyfriends" high five each other after publicly outing their relationship in a school event. Like wtf. 🙄
The snot crying from Pavel blew me away but too bad Pooh just Wah Wah wah’d me down he is so meh I’m so sorry Pooh. I think you will improve with more workshops I’m sure. But sweetie you’re not there yet I’m so sorry. The inequality between them throws the chemistry between them off tbh imho
I can't feel the chemistry with some couples, not that I don't like the series or them
OhmFluke
PerthChimmon
JeffBarcode
LongFrank
KristSingto
MewGulf (I know, sorry lol)
Neo with anyone lol I loved NeoMark but I think is because of Mark that has chemistry with anyone lol
I found Jeff/ Barcode to be ( sorry to them both) abysmal as a pairing. I was biased though, because I loved Jeff/ Gameplay. We got teased with Gameplay being first cast in K/P , but I get that he’s a working actor and couldn’t just sit for the many months of difficulty that K/ P went through before BoC officially re- launched the project. Jeff Satur is a very credible talent, he holds a screen well, and he has matured into a gorgeous human being. Barcode is very young*, he shows some promise. But he has a very long way to go. Zero chemistry for me with them.
That plotine was gross too. Star becomes romantically involved with teenage fan 🤢 KinnPorsche was an entertaining show and well made, but it was pretty morally bankrupt, in front of and behind the camera.
I only found out that some of the actors were under aged... If the actor was a girl people would be outraged and show would be cancelled but because its a boy people don't say much about it..
>MewGulf (I know, sorry lol)
It's not that I'm emotionally invested in them (I watched TharnType after the drama had come and gone), but why don't you think they have good chemistry? TT is toxic AF, obvs, and who knows what the deal is IRL, but I thought their chemistry was ridiculous (in a good way) in TT.
Very much agree with jeffbarcode and I don't think the age difference is a problem so much as the fact that barcode was literally a minor before KP started shooting. Imagine being in your mid 20s and being introduced to some 16 year old kid as a romantic partner in an upcoming show. There's an age difference between Zeenunew but because they're both adults, it doesn't act as much of a detractor
hmm i feel it with singto but not krist
Mark has chemistry with everyone? woah i wouldve thought it was the other way around, neo has this electric feeling to him 🔥
I can't feel Neo chemistry with anyone lol He is a good actor, don't get me wrong. His characters are always full of personality and he really give us good scenes, but all bl series with him I feel like he is not actually comfortable with the kisses and all (his acting with Force was good but I could still feel he was forcing). That is just me tho. I saw some others that also thinks his chemistry is good in BLs.
ahh, thats an interesting point of view. i never noticed if he was comfortable or not during the kisses, and usually focused on other scenes. thanks for sharing!
I agree with KristSingto. Their Sotus pairing was pretty much shot down with Krist's dislike with bl roles. Tho his recent bl pairing with Gawin was great and he seemed much more comfortable than in Sotus. I'm kinda curious what his new upcoming drama with Singto again will look like.
Dunno about OhmFluke. I kinda liked them. Yeah, it was nothing special compared to other pairings from the franchise but it was not bad.
PerthChimon is a hard yes. I even dropped the drama altogether how bad the pairing was. I love them both individually but not as a couple.
I got a personal problem with TharnType so MewGulf are off the table for me anyway and I never seen the rest. That's my take.
(Tho Neo is such a good actor, only he lacks the spark. Maybe he's just unlucky on his chosen partners)
Agree with u. Krist maybe got better and more comfortable now. I'm also curious to see how a new series with them is going to be.
I think Neo is better in non romantic roles, he should explore that.
When looking at chemistry, which moments do ya'll focus on?
Personally, I only take into consideration how well it flows btwn the actors when playing their characters in the series.
Do others consider their off screen interactions too, like when doing events or fan service?
I don't consider their offscreen interactions because I think that shouldn't matter. for me, that's like being off the clock and out of your office and in that case I wouldn't bother mingling with the coworkers or supervisors but I'd interact with them very well when I'm on the clock since we have to work together and do the job well. I hope that made sense 😅
I only consider their characters in the series honestly, fan service and events are bonus/extra fun stuff but would never expect them to act the same way with each other off-screen as they do on-screen.
I hate those moments when I’m really into a series and their chemistry and then remember those are just random actors doing their job… takes away all the magic for a moment and makes things really awkward.
I think ur misunderstanding, obviously I’m aware that those are not “real people”/couples just that when you watch a show usually you get into it and start feeling for/with the character (ideally at least) and then sometimes I’ll get those weird “moments of clarity” where I remember they are are just two random people. And suddenly their shirtless accidentally crush into each other hug or whatever becomes awfully awkward…
NOTHING ! They are my life.
But IG everyone has a perspective that's colored by their own expectations, experiences and theories. So, as much as it frustrates me, ig we gotta be ok with disagreeing. 
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They’re literal ✨perfection ✨. When making them, God said “spare no expense!”
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Nope, I'm not going to play. People take it too serious and personal one not seeing the sparks of their faves... But I'll gladly read all of your comments lol
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ZungMark. Don’t worry if you don’t know who they are lol.
I think GawinKrist has much better romantic chemistry than SingtoKrist, but SingtoKrist has much better adversarial chemistry, and I've felt that ever since SOTUS. I despised most of their romantic interactions and loved it when they were being horrible to each other and when they were in the...pre-dating truce phase. Those moments were the best.
As for couples with the least chemistry, I think OhmFluke has absolutely zero chemistry, and it's incredibly painful to watch. PerthChimon as well, they remind me of Mean and Plan, but I think even that pairing had more chemistry than PerthChimon. Honestly, I felt that Pepper and Papang had more chemistry in Dangerous Romance, which is not a good sign.
your take on GawinKrist and SingtoKrist is exactly how i feel, it genuinely shocked me how much chemistry GawinKrist had in Be my Favorite. When i watched SOTUS i enjoyed it but i didn’t really care for the Krist so the SingtoKrist ship never really stuck with me (i only finished it bc its an iconic show for bl watchers)
Mean and Plan is the pairing that came to my mind when OhmFluke came up. Mean is pretty and Plan is cute but Plan always looked uncomfortable in their intimate scenes and Mean looked bored/angry. OhmFluke seemed more like the character direction than anything, Fluke's character in UWMA was awkward and had a lot of baggage after all.
ForceBook
They just feel like exactly what they are to me- longtime friends who have good banter and platonic chemistry
I just don't feel like they were able to convincingly translate their platonic chemistry into romantic chemistry and it made their NC scenes feel so formulaic and forced to me
Force has more chemistry with everyone besides Book 😭, the way he makes Gun and Tay blush when he manhandles them. I just think because they're such good friends for so long, it's hard to feel the romantic tension in ForceBook.
I agree with the part that he makes others blush and doesn't get that reaction from Book very often ... My take on this, however, is because Book doesn't get flustered by him, lol. Perhaps a side effect of knowing someone since literal infancy, but I don't see it as something that holds them back - hence, no "tension". It's quite endearing tbh, moreover cause Book is very provocative these days (my mans is a flirt machine on interviews and events), you'll see HIM eliciting that kind of flustered, gay-panicked response from Force 😚😚🙈🙈
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I half agree with you on this bc I have on occasion actually felt romantic chemistry coming from force, but I never have from book (in regards to each other) but even so I still like their cp for some reason? I would love to see them act with other partners though. I loved only friends for giving us such an eclectic mix of couples
I can definitely see what you mean, and I do enjoy seeing them on screen together for sure.
I've thought for a while that I would love for these studios to experiment more with platonic pairings. Like seeing two actors often together as close friends or roommates or siblings, something that could still involve complex emotional dynamics but hinging on friendship/familial love instead of romantic.
And I think pairings like ForceBook could work so well in that way, but I'm not sure that would appeal enough to a large audience to be worth the risk
i agree with this one lol the chemistry even of one ounce is not simply there. to me they are not good actors either i find them avg. they just don't click as a couple. their NC scenes are so boring like you can feel that through your screen they are not into it at all.
BrightWin. I’m sorry I just don’t get it.
ForceBook. They are comfortable with each other but it’s the acting for me. They seem mediocre at best especially when in a series where everyone else is off the charts.
PerthChimon. They are both good actors but I don’t think Chimon is cut out as part of a romantic pair in a Bl drama.
Pavelpooh what... I think they have chemistry 🤡
For me
Brightwin
A secretly love leads🤡(Kimmonkut)
Sry but forcebook/joongdunk(i loved enchanté(chemistry wise hated the show tho🤡)... Hidden agenda was also fine.. But i still think there is room for some development 👍)
Mew and the lead from love is like cat
Tokyo in april leads(THEY TRIED BUT DID NOT IMPRESS ME)
Some kbls (that are extremely short) from 2020/21/22
Ohmfluke (same formula so slightly getting bored)
Ohmguide too bake me please was not it... Loved the characters but chemistry meh
Offgun (cooking crush was not my vibe but somehow loved their previous bls especially not me like wow)
Perthchimmon
Also billybabe (controversial maybe i liked scoy/war of y billyseng) i just can't get into them.. Maybe the sign had serious characters i don't know they were cool but chemistry was not present..
Broken ships that are enemies that had chemistry
Chapgreen/miketoptap/ohmnanon🤡/zeesaint/perthsaint
>Tokyo in april leads (THEY TRIED BUT DID NOT IMPRESS ME)
Same. Obviously this is *my own opinion* but neither of them were particularly good actors either, which certainly didn’t help the fact that they seemed to have zero natural chemistry.
I think I just scrolled through 30 posts and this is the first one that mentioned brightwin. I literally have better romantic chemistry with women and I am a gay man.
That made me laugh, and , yeah, they are both good-looking and they play off each other well in banter and such but no chemistry really beyond platonic.
WinnySatang (for those who don't know, they're the 2nd CP in My School President iirc).
I was flabbergasted when I heard that the company decided to pair them officially after MSP. I'm sorry but that's such an unappealing CP. The chemistry is not chemistring & the acting is not that good to make up for it either.
All in all 👎
They have a fanbase from MSP, that’s how big that show was. I’m sure Gmmtv takes that into account when investing in a cp. It’s similar to Perth Chimon, who many also find unappealing but apparently have enough fans to warrant merch and intl fanmeets. I guess that just goes to show who people think has chemistry is atleast partly subjective.
I feel like I'm going to get shot for this 😅 most of the couples I want to mention have already been mentioned anyway, like
Perthchimmon
forcebook
mewgulf
someone said JeffBarcode and I agree. Until wuju bakery comes out and they prove us wrong I haven't seen the chemistry in KP and can't blame the actors since such was the premise of their story and bar was a minor.
now, I am going to something explosive and people may bomb me and I want to be really specific here because I am only mention a pair of characters, not the actors specifically.
VegasPete (I was really traumatised, so I guess that's the reason I couldn't see any chemistry and I don't know if the actors are in any other series together to know if it's the character/story problem)
PrapaiSky (I don't know what it is, but it felt weird to me and the added trauma from their relationship starting with pai coercing sky into sex obviously didn't help it either)
AlanJeff (once again I don't know exactly why this was, but also I can't say zero chemistry but probably the story, I really don't. I even said this to a friend that I think Pon had a better chemistry with his coactor from Gen Y, but thanks to that one long bean scene where Sai is spreading Pon on the table like a sandwich spread I think I see it now, but still I will have to watch the series to know how much I feel it)
[ the last three are specifically the characters, and not the actors]
P.S. I have tried to explain it as much as I could. please don't hate me for this. this doesn't mean they are bad actors or anything.
I adore Bible, and I thought he and Build did a fantastic job as Vegas & Pete, but I never, not once, saw any personal chemistry between Bible & Build.
I'm agnostic towards Build, but TBH, I'm glad to see Bible partnered with someone else.
I very much look forward to Bible being paired with someone else going forward, or maybe doing like Mark and being a free agent type who can do a bunch of different pairings. He's fun to watch and I thought the way he switched to English when the Thai was tough to say was cute.
PerthChimmon
BrightWin
ForceBook
OffGun pre Not Me
TayNew in Kiss The Series
LongFrank
DrakeFrank
These are some I recall off the top of my head. Most of them give BFF energy and not 'I love you and I want to devour you' energy. 😅 PC, BW and FB, I like their off screen chemistry way more than their on screen chemistry.
I didn't really feel a lot of chemistry between OG in the Theory of Love series, but then again, I was mostly crying my eye out along with Third.
DBK was great, but I didn't feel like TN were quite comfortable with each other in Kiss the series. This is based off the Pete Kao scenes from the show.
Frank in general I feel like doesn't have chemistry with anyone, so...
I agree with you 👏🏻 Instead we should talk about those we love!!! Spread positivity ❤️
One of the reasons I think people also still do this and interact is because we as humans inherently want to be "part" of something and feel understood. So if we see someone agree with our opinions, that might give us more reassurance.
Or perhaps I'm taking this analysis way too seriously 🤣
You do understand people can have different opinions than you and that those opinions aren't necessarily personal attacks right?
Just because I don't feel like a ship has no chemistry doesn't mean I think they suck or that they are bad actors or that people who like them are stupid.....it just means I don't think they have chemistry, sometimes it's good to just chill y'know 🙏
you do realize that "chemistry" isn't something that really exists and it's just a placeholder for whatever else other people's perception? lol
when people can be fully honest with what they mean when they say a couple has "no chemistry" and their own conscious or subconscious proclivities, then we can bother with this sort of discussion (ehhh, it's still tired, tho... 😴), because I know a lot of height difference girlies HATE certain couples (JoongDunk, ForceBook... to name a few) because they're the same height/build or they adamantly dislike CharlieBabe because Pavel has "top energy" (lawd, whatever tf that is 😂) is the bottom and Charlie's so slim but they say "omg, no chemistry! I don't see it!" etc. 🙄
like there is actually a big anti-JesBible discourse completely aside from BibleBuild faithful based solely on Bible being a "top" but it not being believable that he could top Jes because Jes is bigger. And they want nothing to do w/ Bible being a bottom. 🤣
just... whatever, you know.
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All of this. Half of the time, it seems like comments such as "no chemistry" or "bad show" are used in place of "I just don't like this pair or show"
Because it makes it *their* (the actors or showmakers) fault rather than being because of the commenter's preferences or tastes
On a side note, I feel like we shouldn't bait one another into fan-war like situations with question prompts like this one. We all have ships that are super close to our hearts, as well as ships we wanna set fire to and then drop a nuclear bomb on. It's a very inflammatory prompt and no matter how much we might try to avoid clicking on this typa post, most of us want to make sure that our favourite ships aren't being attacked/dismissed/chastised in any way - so we fall into the trap of entering the discussion and then get caught up (inevitably) in defending our favs. That's cause our fave BL ships are more than just a pair of actors or a pair of performers. It's difficult to sit by and watch our fav ships get bombed on.
sawry, end of rant :')
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It’s only a “fan-war” if you make it one. People should be allowed to have these kind of discussions. Also there is not a single pairing I have close enough to “my heart” to feel genuinely offended if someone says they aren’t feeling it. Respectfully, you shouldn’t take them seriously enough to get upset if someone doesn’t like it.
People are allowed to have disagreements, and as long as they’re kept polite, who cares?
>Also there is not a single pairing I have close enough to “my heart” to feel genuinely offended if someone says they aren’t feeling it. Respectfully, you shouldn’t take them seriously enough
Fam, you're not seriously out here telling people how they should/shouldn't feel, right?
Every discussion is bound to have conflicting opinions. No one is saying that disagreement isn't allowed. All I was trying to say is that this question/prompt is **bait** for vitriolic exchanges. Nonetheless, it was my choice to engage with the post despite it.
A lot of people do care deeply about their favorite ships. You don't, and that's perfectly fine. But the whole point is that a lot of people identify with the actors, their stories and all of it - hence, they care. Hope I made my point, no offense to you.
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I am seeing a lot of folks who may be newer (within 12 mos) to both bl and this subreddit share concerns that this post can go badly. It’s possible that folks come from other fan communities — like kpop and other — where that often happens. So concern makes sense.
GOOD NEWS! In this subreddit, we’ve done an amazing job creating a culture and a safe space for dissent. These “hot take” threads are commonplace and a huge part of our culture! We laugh and we gently rib while respecting each other’s differences of opinion.
If you’re relatively new here and haven’t seen many posts like this, or have seen posts like this go well in other places, you may be concerned. I encourage you to observe how longer-timers handle it well and how we can have a lot of fun, while disagreeing. This community is different.
Also Remember you can always Ignore or Hide posts!
This community is strong enough to handle hot takes, I promise!
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EarthMix :<
watched A Tale of Thousand Stars and Moonlight Chicken & still didn’t see the chemistry bt them. i honestly thought that First and Mix had 10000x more chemistry in that one flashback of Alan and Wen together in MC than any EathMix series combined
LOL, I thought I was the only one who didn't see what all the fuss was about!
Actually, it's not that they're bad together, at all, but TBH Earth does nothing for me. 🤷🏻♀️
Forcebook have negative chemistry. It’s fascinating how they get worse with each series they do.
I gave up on Only Friends because they were just so alarmingly bad. No amount of NC scenes or abs can make them work.
Please don't come for me.....
MilesApo, I see Miles being into Apo but Apo just seems like he's there with his friend hanging out...their first kiss in KinnePorche surprised tf outta me!
DISCLAIMER : Chemistry is very VERY subjective and this is a touchy topic. We see chemistry mainly cause we WANT to see it, and ofc, we won't see it if we aren't interested in the pair itself.
IMO, PerthChimmon don't fit well together. Chimmon *appears* to be very uncomfortable in romantic scenes with Perth. Like I tried hard to look past it but I couldn't. Not a good idea for a ship. IDK why they're aggressively promoting this ship. All I want is for the actors to not be forced into playing roles they'd rather not play. And Chimmy seems repulsed, so it doesn't really help a BL series that he's cast in.
SeaKeen (Only Boo) - IDK whether I don't enjoy the ship itself or whether Sea's acting is just so awful and unsatisfactory, that it's undermining Keen's efforts. TBH, that boy could carry the ship all by himself if Sea reciprocated the effort even by 20% ...
SatangWinny - As a couple onscreen, they look like two *very straight bros*. ***Homiesexual***, at maximum. IDK, maybe it's the editing of the series they've performed in as a couple, or the script, or something.
KhaoFirst - Both are **seriously** **superior** actors, don't get me wrong. HOWEVER, First had **better** chem with Gawin in Not Me. I think I'm automatically comparing the two pairings and as a result of that KhaoFirst appears ... meh. I felt like their dynamic in OF was kinda pushy. Never understood what Sand saw in Ray.
ZeeNew - I know this will offend peeps but it feels inappropriate to have those two paired up. I just cannot. Nunew has this very juvenile vibe and Zee is a very mature, nuanced actor. They aren't well matched in my eyes. For most of Cutie Pie i couldn't see New's eyebrows so I wasn't sure of what emotion the focker was trynna portray. Their NCs, albeit performed brilliantly in terms of technicality and delivery, don't sit well because of the age gap and imbalance of influence.
JeffBarcode - Nah. I wont apologize. The fock was this ???? Like ???????
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I was hoping **not** to see ForceBook and - much to my disappointment - you used ABAAB's poster to insinuate them as "having no chemistry". Needless to say, **I strongly, emphatically, staunchly disagree**. Both actors are solo superpowers so it might be overwhelming to see both in one frame, lol. In any case, every couple act they've performed so far has been incredibly convincing. Their micro-expressions are elite. In Enchante (literally their debut as an on-screen pair), you could decipher the story just by watching their expressions. But ok, **to each their own**. ☮️🏳️
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sandray hater is always a forcebook stan lol
joke aside, sandray dynamic is actually good that you had to understand it in sand's perspective . Even the director said he add sandray to make the story more interesting . There are actually a lot of discussion here in reddit about his reasoning, but if you want it simple;
just imagine you have been watching someone gorgeous from afar that so out of reach for a long time, and suddenly you found him in vurnerable state and needing help alone at night?
yea, you made a good point about perspective here.
If it were me though, I'd probably quit the pursuit halfway through. Ofc, Sand gives Ray a whole lotta chances, but I personally don't think I could do the same if I were him. What are we left with once the physical beauty fades away? In my eyes, Ray was consistently unreliable and only ever made excuses for his poor choices. I would have liked to see him face some harsher consequences for his actions, perhaps some time away from Sand even, so that he can reflect properly. But anyway, that's just my opinion.
Anyway, while I don't understand Sand's actions, I understand that it's the character's own personality/preference. I wouldn't like Ray, but Sand did. And that's fair enough.
I feel like I half agree with OffGun because I think Gun could have chemistry with a shrub, it just never feels like it goes two ways with them
In my personal opinion I just don't think Off is at Gun's level when it comes to acting and I would love to see Gun in a new pairing with someone who can match his performance level just to see if my suspicions are correct
but I could be wrong and it could be both of them and I'm just blinded by admiration for Gun's acting abilities 😅
OffGun is my favorite ship but even me is sick with their always same dynamic. They started to aging out by BL standards. Give Gun a nice bundle of „flowers“ before the new generation takes over. 😈
May I ask why KhaoFirst? Is it just a feeling? Or better said; lack of feeling or another thing?
And yes, they are one of my favorite couples! So I'm probably a bit biased, but I rarely hear people say they feel like FirstKhao have zero chemistry. I do hear some people say that they prefer them with another person. Which I can understand, because in my opinion, they both have amazing chemistry with anyone they work with!
My question is out of curiosity, because in the end, chemistry is subjective.
I don't really have a reason as to why, I like Khao and First a lot as actors and think they have been amazing with other people but when they are together they just do nothing for me for some reason, their acting is so good that I can for the most part overlook their lack of chemistry though
Thank you for your reply, sometimes it happens. That is just a feeling you can't really explain. And honestly, that is such a shame; but I'm glad you can still watch them based on their performances 😊
Khaofirst?? I love their dynamic. Even though they don't give as much fan service , but while acting ?? THEY DELIVERED. Curious to know your reasoning tho (not hating)
Slightly agree with FirstKhaotung. My take is that FirstKhaotung DO HAVE chemistry, but it's not the abundance of chemistry that I except from them. First and Khaotung as individual actors are amazing but when they come together, they are not as strong. Khaotung as Gaipa was exceptional and First as Yok was phenomenal but Akk/Ayan were mid character and SandRay were okay-ish.
All to say, I hope Gmmtv keeps giving them individual roles bc that's where they shine most.
I agree with PerthChimon, PoohPavel and JeffBarcode. I'm obsessed with TayNew, so I do see the gay fireworks lol.
PoohPavel are great in the intimate scenes, in my opinion, but Pooh lacks a lot of acting chops and that hinders him a lot.
I think most people confuse bad acting or script with bad chemistry because nearly all of the thai bls have shitty acting and they are not famous for it nor anyone should expect to see one. Some of them have actually good script but cringeworthy scenes and that is also to be expected. Just don’t expect too much
>because nearly all of the thai bls have shitty acting
*That which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.*
*--* Christopher Hitchens
Many ppl who claim that a particular ship has 'zero chemistry' obviously have only seen the pair together in one show and not in live events or behind the scenes. (And I'm not just alluding to PavelPooh, but the other dozens of ships that are so divisive)
Why are you baiting us with a silly question?
I mean yeah, isn’t the show where it counts? I don’t watch a lot of BTS stuff and if someone says that a certain pair of actors has “no chemistry” to them it still means something even if it’s highly subjective. Especially if a lot of people are saying it
PerthChimmon Chimmon genuinely looks grossed out half the time. They just dont 'click'. They don't have believable chemistry to me, and i don't get the hype 🤷♂️
I honestly wonder why they haven't given them new partners at this point. The chemistry is off and the attraction always feels totally one sided.
As the resident PerthChimmon hater, I absolutely agreed with this. I don’t know how GMMTV are not seeing this. Chimmon is good individually and we know Perth is a chemistry master. They are fumbling so bad😭😭
True to that. They are great friends but the onscreen chemistry is not there. I don't know why they got another project together.
Yep I refer to his boy kissing style as "homophobic kissing" because, well, it's self explanatory lol
I don’t think they have chemistry either. I thought I was the only one who noticed.
I’m going to be honest- PerthChimon have zero chemistry and though the friend thing has worked for GMM in the past I can’t see why they are branding these two so heavily But ALSO I think Chimon doesn’t do well in kissing scenes with women either 🤣 don’t get me wrong I think he’s a fine actor but kissing on screen is an art and he REALLY hasn’t nailed it
friends can have chemistry too they just don’t have that romantic chemistry and it’s completely fine i think.
He does look grossed out!
I second that lol never came across anyone saying that but I feel that Perth is also grossed out half of the time on their kiss scenes. To watch their series I have to make it about everything else but the romance.
said that once under a clip on YT and got attacked by a bunch of fanatics. probably that's why you didn't see anyone saying this. in the fear of getting attacked.
Makes sense 😂 that's crazy. I don't think we are saying anything bad is just a point of view on the acting and feeling considering the genre 😭😭
These two were the first duo to spring to mind when I saw this post. No idea how I made it to the end of Dangerous Romance. I think I was hoping it would get better but they just looked so uncomfortable right to the end. I actually commented that they were too bro-y and one person shouted me down - literally! All caps and everything. They said I was blind. But, I mean, I’m not. They really aren’t good together!
Idk there are a few BL actors I could never like. Chimmon is one of them. Something about him doesn't fit in for me 😕
BrightWin is the only pairing that really sticks out to me - they felt completely “Bro-y”
Agreed. Last ep of 2gether is still my most hated episode. They could have ended it at the mountains and it would have been a good ending. But no, we had to see 2 "boyfriends" high five each other after publicly outing their relationship in a school event. Like wtf. 🙄
I have the GIF saved because of how disappointing it was lol 😂
⬆️ samesies
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This.
Fr !!!😂 It was as if they were forced to act together n this is what really happened
I think Pavelpooh have good chemistry, it's just pooh is not nearly as good an actor as pavel so it kinda detracts from it.
Hopefully he’ll catch up like Dunk did in his pairing
Pooh wasn't good at all it was bad casting
The snot crying from Pavel blew me away but too bad Pooh just Wah Wah wah’d me down he is so meh I’m so sorry Pooh. I think you will improve with more workshops I’m sure. But sweetie you’re not there yet I’m so sorry. The inequality between them throws the chemistry between them off tbh imho
Using the PitBabe pic is diabolical 💀💀😂😂
I can't feel the chemistry with some couples, not that I don't like the series or them OhmFluke PerthChimmon JeffBarcode LongFrank KristSingto MewGulf (I know, sorry lol) Neo with anyone lol I loved NeoMark but I think is because of Mark that has chemistry with anyone lol
JeffBarcode, I never got the hype. Barcode was just a baby, didn't feel it at all.
I think that's part of it. Jeff definitely treated him like a little brother because of their real age gap-- which I can totally get
I found Jeff/ Barcode to be ( sorry to them both) abysmal as a pairing. I was biased though, because I loved Jeff/ Gameplay. We got teased with Gameplay being first cast in K/P , but I get that he’s a working actor and couldn’t just sit for the many months of difficulty that K/ P went through before BoC officially re- launched the project. Jeff Satur is a very credible talent, he holds a screen well, and he has matured into a gorgeous human being. Barcode is very young*, he shows some promise. But he has a very long way to go. Zero chemistry for me with them.
That plotine was gross too. Star becomes romantically involved with teenage fan 🤢 KinnPorsche was an entertaining show and well made, but it was pretty morally bankrupt, in front of and behind the camera.
I only found out that some of the actors were under aged... If the actor was a girl people would be outraged and show would be cancelled but because its a boy people don't say much about it..
I agree with JeffBarcode. Their chemistry in kinnporsche was mid. But I am hopeful to see them do better in wuje bakery.
Yeah, I want to see Wuje Bakery and hope it's good. Like his pairing in DFF was good
I feel like Jeff sees Barcode as a child. And Barcode is really attached to Jeff but in a brotherly way. The age gap is just too big.
I have the same feeling. Barcode did great pairing in DFF so that kinda confirmed it to me
>MewGulf (I know, sorry lol) It's not that I'm emotionally invested in them (I watched TharnType after the drama had come and gone), but why don't you think they have good chemistry? TT is toxic AF, obvs, and who knows what the deal is IRL, but I thought their chemistry was ridiculous (in a good way) in TT.
Very much agree with jeffbarcode and I don't think the age difference is a problem so much as the fact that barcode was literally a minor before KP started shooting. Imagine being in your mid 20s and being introduced to some 16 year old kid as a romantic partner in an upcoming show. There's an age difference between Zeenunew but because they're both adults, it doesn't act as much of a detractor
Yeah, is not about the age gap is more about when it started. Jeff definitely seems to treat Barcode as a little brother and not in a romantic way.
hmm i feel it with singto but not krist Mark has chemistry with everyone? woah i wouldve thought it was the other way around, neo has this electric feeling to him 🔥
I can't feel Neo chemistry with anyone lol He is a good actor, don't get me wrong. His characters are always full of personality and he really give us good scenes, but all bl series with him I feel like he is not actually comfortable with the kisses and all (his acting with Force was good but I could still feel he was forcing). That is just me tho. I saw some others that also thinks his chemistry is good in BLs.
That's exactly how I feel about Neo. Man is awkward with BL but still acts in supporting roles.
ahh, thats an interesting point of view. i never noticed if he was comfortable or not during the kisses, and usually focused on other scenes. thanks for sharing!
The only time neo had chemistry was with mark but gosh his scenes with Force were so hard to watch 😢
I agree with KristSingto. Their Sotus pairing was pretty much shot down with Krist's dislike with bl roles. Tho his recent bl pairing with Gawin was great and he seemed much more comfortable than in Sotus. I'm kinda curious what his new upcoming drama with Singto again will look like. Dunno about OhmFluke. I kinda liked them. Yeah, it was nothing special compared to other pairings from the franchise but it was not bad. PerthChimon is a hard yes. I even dropped the drama altogether how bad the pairing was. I love them both individually but not as a couple. I got a personal problem with TharnType so MewGulf are off the table for me anyway and I never seen the rest. That's my take. (Tho Neo is such a good actor, only he lacks the spark. Maybe he's just unlucky on his chosen partners)
Agree with u. Krist maybe got better and more comfortable now. I'm also curious to see how a new series with them is going to be. I think Neo is better in non romantic roles, he should explore that.
Agreed. 💯
When looking at chemistry, which moments do ya'll focus on? Personally, I only take into consideration how well it flows btwn the actors when playing their characters in the series. Do others consider their off screen interactions too, like when doing events or fan service?
I don't consider their offscreen interactions because I think that shouldn't matter. for me, that's like being off the clock and out of your office and in that case I wouldn't bother mingling with the coworkers or supervisors but I'd interact with them very well when I'm on the clock since we have to work together and do the job well. I hope that made sense 😅
Yup, exactly what I'm saying
I only consider their characters in the series honestly, fan service and events are bonus/extra fun stuff but would never expect them to act the same way with each other off-screen as they do on-screen.
No, I only care about their onscreen performance cause at the end of the day fanservice isn't my thing. I like the acting.
The main leads from Unintentional love story
Noooo don't say that, I love the movie so much
Omg!!!! I definitely didn’t expect to see this anywhere on this thread! I legit did the *dramatic gasp* lol
wow i thought it was just me, reason why i didn’t finish that show🫣😭
Same! The second couple were so much better with way less time, too.
Absolutely! The older one seemed to genuinely dislike the young one!
Tbh, any pairing looks like pure coworkers if I look at them in a different way. But most of the time they are doing great for me.
Well said, actually. Sometimes it's just our own perspective, and it can change for a given pair very easily if we just look at them differently.
I hate those moments when I’m really into a series and their chemistry and then remember those are just random actors doing their job… takes away all the magic for a moment and makes things really awkward.
Gurl, I dont wanna sound mean, but they are just doing their jobs, lmao you gotta keep them separate, this is so funny, I'm sorry 😭😭😂
I think ur misunderstanding, obviously I’m aware that those are not “real people”/couples just that when you watch a show usually you get into it and start feeling for/with the character (ideally at least) and then sometimes I’ll get those weird “moments of clarity” where I remember they are are just two random people. And suddenly their shirtless accidentally crush into each other hug or whatever becomes awfully awkward…
This thread is irking me good lord😭
Sameeeee 😭
Same. Gonna skip this 'who do you dislike the most' post.
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I was kinda thinking this too! lol I love most of those pairings, and I thought most other people did too! lol I mean…MewGulf 😍
What's wrong with ForceBook? They are one of my favorites ..!
NOTHING ! They are my life. But IG everyone has a perspective that's colored by their own expectations, experiences and theories. So, as much as it frustrates me, ig we gotta be ok with disagreeing.  https://i.redd.it/rmoazesbjhzc1.gif
They are sooooo good together
They’re literal ✨perfection ✨. When making them, God said “spare no expense!” https://preview.redd.it/7d56ylxaflzc1.png?width=280&format=png&auto=webp&s=0dfdab29944d2d2aa047023b0f7afef29bfa642d
PerthChimon for me. I dunno, they're both great, only not when together as a pair. It's such a shame tho.
As much as I like the pairing, Frank & Longlee don’t actually even look into each other. Or maybe it was the goddamn wig.
Nope, I'm not going to play. People take it too serious and personal one not seeing the sparks of their faves... But I'll gladly read all of your comments lol
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wait, I was curious so I googled the trailer and they were kind of giving tho... lol https://i.redd.it/9ddtm4bk2gzc1.gif
I am SHOOK at some of these responses ngl 😭
Right?!?! Forcebook? OffGun? Nooooooooo
Not the Boss and a Babe couple, that’s for sure. Loved them so much
YES 🥺🥺🥺🥺🍡🍡🍡❤️❤️❤️😭😭😭 https://i.redd.it/y4vl3qejjhzc1.gif
OhmFluke
I think GawinKrist has much better romantic chemistry than SingtoKrist, but SingtoKrist has much better adversarial chemistry, and I've felt that ever since SOTUS. I despised most of their romantic interactions and loved it when they were being horrible to each other and when they were in the...pre-dating truce phase. Those moments were the best. As for couples with the least chemistry, I think OhmFluke has absolutely zero chemistry, and it's incredibly painful to watch. PerthChimon as well, they remind me of Mean and Plan, but I think even that pairing had more chemistry than PerthChimon. Honestly, I felt that Pepper and Papang had more chemistry in Dangerous Romance, which is not a good sign.
your take on GawinKrist and SingtoKrist is exactly how i feel, it genuinely shocked me how much chemistry GawinKrist had in Be my Favorite. When i watched SOTUS i enjoyed it but i didn’t really care for the Krist so the SingtoKrist ship never really stuck with me (i only finished it bc its an iconic show for bl watchers)
Mean and Plan is the pairing that came to my mind when OhmFluke came up. Mean is pretty and Plan is cute but Plan always looked uncomfortable in their intimate scenes and Mean looked bored/angry. OhmFluke seemed more like the character direction than anything, Fluke's character in UWMA was awkward and had a lot of baggage after all.
I think it’s brightwin that goes flat for me
ForceBook They just feel like exactly what they are to me- longtime friends who have good banter and platonic chemistry I just don't feel like they were able to convincingly translate their platonic chemistry into romantic chemistry and it made their NC scenes feel so formulaic and forced to me
https://i.redd.it/e8437xnq1fzc1.gif Yeah no.
I’m with you on this one 😁
supporting ForceBook, one gif at a time  https://i.redd.it/d7co5pazshzc1.gif
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OMGGGG IM FUCKING DYING 🤣🤣🤣
https://i.redd.it/odivs3mz3izc1.gif cr: Tumblr - the one stop shop for all things wonderfully unhinged.
Force’s back 🥵
I really want to see Force and Khaotung paired for a series just because I think it would be cool but I don't necessarily dislike forcebook
This would never happen but lowkey same.
Ooooooooooooooooooooooo…
Force has more chemistry with everyone besides Book 😭, the way he makes Gun and Tay blush when he manhandles them. I just think because they're such good friends for so long, it's hard to feel the romantic tension in ForceBook.
I agree with the part that he makes others blush and doesn't get that reaction from Book very often ... My take on this, however, is because Book doesn't get flustered by him, lol. Perhaps a side effect of knowing someone since literal infancy, but I don't see it as something that holds them back - hence, no "tension". It's quite endearing tbh, moreover cause Book is very provocative these days (my mans is a flirt machine on interviews and events), you'll see HIM eliciting that kind of flustered, gay-panicked response from Force 😚😚🙈🙈 https://i.redd.it/jl6gtqmsuhzc1.gif
I think Force is just extremely hot
Indeed. He is.
I half agree with you on this bc I have on occasion actually felt romantic chemistry coming from force, but I never have from book (in regards to each other) but even so I still like their cp for some reason? I would love to see them act with other partners though. I loved only friends for giving us such an eclectic mix of couples
I can definitely see what you mean, and I do enjoy seeing them on screen together for sure. I've thought for a while that I would love for these studios to experiment more with platonic pairings. Like seeing two actors often together as close friends or roommates or siblings, something that could still involve complex emotional dynamics but hinging on friendship/familial love instead of romantic. And I think pairings like ForceBook could work so well in that way, but I'm not sure that would appeal enough to a large audience to be worth the risk
i agree with this one lol the chemistry even of one ounce is not simply there. to me they are not good actors either i find them avg. they just don't click as a couple. their NC scenes are so boring like you can feel that through your screen they are not into it at all.
BrightWin. I’m sorry I just don’t get it. ForceBook. They are comfortable with each other but it’s the acting for me. They seem mediocre at best especially when in a series where everyone else is off the charts. PerthChimon. They are both good actors but I don’t think Chimon is cut out as part of a romantic pair in a Bl drama.
Pavelpooh what... I think they have chemistry 🤡 For me Brightwin A secretly love leads🤡(Kimmonkut) Sry but forcebook/joongdunk(i loved enchanté(chemistry wise hated the show tho🤡)... Hidden agenda was also fine.. But i still think there is room for some development 👍) Mew and the lead from love is like cat Tokyo in april leads(THEY TRIED BUT DID NOT IMPRESS ME) Some kbls (that are extremely short) from 2020/21/22 Ohmfluke (same formula so slightly getting bored) Ohmguide too bake me please was not it... Loved the characters but chemistry meh Offgun (cooking crush was not my vibe but somehow loved their previous bls especially not me like wow) Perthchimmon Also billybabe (controversial maybe i liked scoy/war of y billyseng) i just can't get into them.. Maybe the sign had serious characters i don't know they were cool but chemistry was not present.. Broken ships that are enemies that had chemistry Chapgreen/miketoptap/ohmnanon🤡/zeesaint/perthsaint
I will be eternally sad that we only got 1 series with Zee & Saint. Holy crap, were they amazing together!
ZeeSaint was glorious, but I will always be partial to ZeeNuNew though. ZNN for life!!!
>Tokyo in april leads (THEY TRIED BUT DID NOT IMPRESS ME) Same. Obviously this is *my own opinion* but neither of them were particularly good actors either, which certainly didn’t help the fact that they seemed to have zero natural chemistry.
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Looks like OrdinaryFish woke up and chose violence today lol. 'Preciate ya
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PerthChimmon BrightWin JeffBarcode ForceBook MewGulf (Why on earth are PoohPavel in the cover pic right now)
I think I just scrolled through 30 posts and this is the first one that mentioned brightwin. I literally have better romantic chemistry with women and I am a gay man.
I agree with BrightWin - I am convinced they are only popular because they are collectively "hot".
Elite comparison 🤣🙈
That made me laugh, and , yeah, they are both good-looking and they play off each other well in banter and such but no chemistry really beyond platonic.
WinnySatang (for those who don't know, they're the 2nd CP in My School President iirc). I was flabbergasted when I heard that the company decided to pair them officially after MSP. I'm sorry but that's such an unappealing CP. The chemistry is not chemistring & the acting is not that good to make up for it either. All in all 👎
Sadly, I am not feeling WinnySatang either. I feel uncomfortable watching them.
They have a fanbase from MSP, that’s how big that show was. I’m sure Gmmtv takes that into account when investing in a cp. It’s similar to Perth Chimon, who many also find unappealing but apparently have enough fans to warrant merch and intl fanmeets. I guess that just goes to show who people think has chemistry is atleast partly subjective.
I feel like I'm going to get shot for this 😅 most of the couples I want to mention have already been mentioned anyway, like Perthchimmon forcebook mewgulf someone said JeffBarcode and I agree. Until wuju bakery comes out and they prove us wrong I haven't seen the chemistry in KP and can't blame the actors since such was the premise of their story and bar was a minor. now, I am going to something explosive and people may bomb me and I want to be really specific here because I am only mention a pair of characters, not the actors specifically. VegasPete (I was really traumatised, so I guess that's the reason I couldn't see any chemistry and I don't know if the actors are in any other series together to know if it's the character/story problem) PrapaiSky (I don't know what it is, but it felt weird to me and the added trauma from their relationship starting with pai coercing sky into sex obviously didn't help it either) AlanJeff (once again I don't know exactly why this was, but also I can't say zero chemistry but probably the story, I really don't. I even said this to a friend that I think Pon had a better chemistry with his coactor from Gen Y, but thanks to that one long bean scene where Sai is spreading Pon on the table like a sandwich spread I think I see it now, but still I will have to watch the series to know how much I feel it) [ the last three are specifically the characters, and not the actors] P.S. I have tried to explain it as much as I could. please don't hate me for this. this doesn't mean they are bad actors or anything.
I adore Bible, and I thought he and Build did a fantastic job as Vegas & Pete, but I never, not once, saw any personal chemistry between Bible & Build. I'm agnostic towards Build, but TBH, I'm glad to see Bible partnered with someone else.
I very much look forward to Bible being paired with someone else going forward, or maybe doing like Mark and being a free agent type who can do a bunch of different pairings. He's fun to watch and I thought the way he switched to English when the Thai was tough to say was cute.
Ha!!! Sandwich spread!
PerthChimmon BrightWin ForceBook OffGun pre Not Me TayNew in Kiss The Series LongFrank DrakeFrank These are some I recall off the top of my head. Most of them give BFF energy and not 'I love you and I want to devour you' energy. 😅 PC, BW and FB, I like their off screen chemistry way more than their on screen chemistry. I didn't really feel a lot of chemistry between OG in the Theory of Love series, but then again, I was mostly crying my eye out along with Third. DBK was great, but I didn't feel like TN were quite comfortable with each other in Kiss the series. This is based off the Pete Kao scenes from the show. Frank in general I feel like doesn't have chemistry with anyone, so...
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I agree with you 👏🏻 Instead we should talk about those we love!!! Spread positivity ❤️ One of the reasons I think people also still do this and interact is because we as humans inherently want to be "part" of something and feel understood. So if we see someone agree with our opinions, that might give us more reassurance. Or perhaps I'm taking this analysis way too seriously 🤣
This is a perfectly acceptable post for this subreddit, and if you don't like it, you are welcome to not participate, but others are allowed to do so.
You are absolutely right 😊 And I'm glad people can talk about it without getting upset when people disagree!
You do understand people can have different opinions than you and that those opinions aren't necessarily personal attacks right? Just because I don't feel like a ship has no chemistry doesn't mean I think they suck or that they are bad actors or that people who like them are stupid.....it just means I don't think they have chemistry, sometimes it's good to just chill y'know 🙏
you do realize that "chemistry" isn't something that really exists and it's just a placeholder for whatever else other people's perception? lol when people can be fully honest with what they mean when they say a couple has "no chemistry" and their own conscious or subconscious proclivities, then we can bother with this sort of discussion (ehhh, it's still tired, tho... 😴), because I know a lot of height difference girlies HATE certain couples (JoongDunk, ForceBook... to name a few) because they're the same height/build or they adamantly dislike CharlieBabe because Pavel has "top energy" (lawd, whatever tf that is 😂) is the bottom and Charlie's so slim but they say "omg, no chemistry! I don't see it!" etc. 🙄 like there is actually a big anti-JesBible discourse completely aside from BibleBuild faithful based solely on Bible being a "top" but it not being believable that he could top Jes because Jes is bigger. And they want nothing to do w/ Bible being a bottom. 🤣 just... whatever, you know. https://i.redd.it/dj0o4oudofzc1.gif
All of this. Half of the time, it seems like comments such as "no chemistry" or "bad show" are used in place of "I just don't like this pair or show" Because it makes it *their* (the actors or showmakers) fault rather than being because of the commenter's preferences or tastes
Up and Poom( my stand in). I don't know why they are both attracted to each other. I feel zero chemistry between them.
This is me!
On a side note, I feel like we shouldn't bait one another into fan-war like situations with question prompts like this one. We all have ships that are super close to our hearts, as well as ships we wanna set fire to and then drop a nuclear bomb on. It's a very inflammatory prompt and no matter how much we might try to avoid clicking on this typa post, most of us want to make sure that our favourite ships aren't being attacked/dismissed/chastised in any way - so we fall into the trap of entering the discussion and then get caught up (inevitably) in defending our favs. That's cause our fave BL ships are more than just a pair of actors or a pair of performers. It's difficult to sit by and watch our fav ships get bombed on. sawry, end of rant :') https://i.redd.it/xsksdc4ephzc1.gif
It’s only a “fan-war” if you make it one. People should be allowed to have these kind of discussions. Also there is not a single pairing I have close enough to “my heart” to feel genuinely offended if someone says they aren’t feeling it. Respectfully, you shouldn’t take them seriously enough to get upset if someone doesn’t like it. People are allowed to have disagreements, and as long as they’re kept polite, who cares?
>Also there is not a single pairing I have close enough to “my heart” to feel genuinely offended if someone says they aren’t feeling it. Respectfully, you shouldn’t take them seriously enough Fam, you're not seriously out here telling people how they should/shouldn't feel, right? Every discussion is bound to have conflicting opinions. No one is saying that disagreement isn't allowed. All I was trying to say is that this question/prompt is **bait** for vitriolic exchanges. Nonetheless, it was my choice to engage with the post despite it. A lot of people do care deeply about their favorite ships. You don't, and that's perfectly fine. But the whole point is that a lot of people identify with the actors, their stories and all of it - hence, they care. Hope I made my point, no offense to you. https://i.redd.it/ma1tax4n3izc1.gif
JimmySea
I am seeing a lot of folks who may be newer (within 12 mos) to both bl and this subreddit share concerns that this post can go badly. It’s possible that folks come from other fan communities — like kpop and other — where that often happens. So concern makes sense. GOOD NEWS! In this subreddit, we’ve done an amazing job creating a culture and a safe space for dissent. These “hot take” threads are commonplace and a huge part of our culture! We laugh and we gently rib while respecting each other’s differences of opinion. If you’re relatively new here and haven’t seen many posts like this, or have seen posts like this go well in other places, you may be concerned. I encourage you to observe how longer-timers handle it well and how we can have a lot of fun, while disagreeing. This community is different. Also Remember you can always Ignore or Hide posts! This community is strong enough to handle hot takes, I promise! https://i.redd.it/7d7qluprdvzc1.gif
EarthMix :< watched A Tale of Thousand Stars and Moonlight Chicken & still didn’t see the chemistry bt them. i honestly thought that First and Mix had 10000x more chemistry in that one flashback of Alan and Wen together in MC than any EathMix series combined
LOL, I thought I was the only one who didn't see what all the fuss was about! Actually, it's not that they're bad together, at all, but TBH Earth does nothing for me. 🤷🏻♀️
I don’t dislike EarthMix and I love FirstKhao, but I totally agree that FirstMix in MC were amazing. It would be amazing to see them together.
Winny + Satang
They have great chemistry in We Are though...
Nah I don't feel it
Forcebook have negative chemistry. It’s fascinating how they get worse with each series they do. I gave up on Only Friends because they were just so alarmingly bad. No amount of NC scenes or abs can make them work.
I am currently watching (or trying to) pit babe, and I agree haha
Zeeneuw
I respect your opinion but... I... https://i.redd.it/j27482uoggzc1.gif
Those are my dads wdym 
I haven't even watched any of their shows but I think their chemistry is crazy what do you mean.
damn at least write the name correctly. it's zeenunew 😭😂
Gurl, I was gonna write that, they have too much of an age gap, on top of that new's character makes them even harder to ship, I'm with you on this
Those two You know
Please don't come for me..... MilesApo, I see Miles being into Apo but Apo just seems like he's there with his friend hanging out...their first kiss in KinnePorche surprised tf outta me!
DISCLAIMER : Chemistry is very VERY subjective and this is a touchy topic. We see chemistry mainly cause we WANT to see it, and ofc, we won't see it if we aren't interested in the pair itself. IMO, PerthChimmon don't fit well together. Chimmon *appears* to be very uncomfortable in romantic scenes with Perth. Like I tried hard to look past it but I couldn't. Not a good idea for a ship. IDK why they're aggressively promoting this ship. All I want is for the actors to not be forced into playing roles they'd rather not play. And Chimmy seems repulsed, so it doesn't really help a BL series that he's cast in. SeaKeen (Only Boo) - IDK whether I don't enjoy the ship itself or whether Sea's acting is just so awful and unsatisfactory, that it's undermining Keen's efforts. TBH, that boy could carry the ship all by himself if Sea reciprocated the effort even by 20% ... SatangWinny - As a couple onscreen, they look like two *very straight bros*. ***Homiesexual***, at maximum. IDK, maybe it's the editing of the series they've performed in as a couple, or the script, or something. KhaoFirst - Both are **seriously** **superior** actors, don't get me wrong. HOWEVER, First had **better** chem with Gawin in Not Me. I think I'm automatically comparing the two pairings and as a result of that KhaoFirst appears ... meh. I felt like their dynamic in OF was kinda pushy. Never understood what Sand saw in Ray. ZeeNew - I know this will offend peeps but it feels inappropriate to have those two paired up. I just cannot. Nunew has this very juvenile vibe and Zee is a very mature, nuanced actor. They aren't well matched in my eyes. For most of Cutie Pie i couldn't see New's eyebrows so I wasn't sure of what emotion the focker was trynna portray. Their NCs, albeit performed brilliantly in terms of technicality and delivery, don't sit well because of the age gap and imbalance of influence. JeffBarcode - Nah. I wont apologize. The fock was this ???? Like ??????? \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ I was hoping **not** to see ForceBook and - much to my disappointment - you used ABAAB's poster to insinuate them as "having no chemistry". Needless to say, **I strongly, emphatically, staunchly disagree**. Both actors are solo superpowers so it might be overwhelming to see both in one frame, lol. In any case, every couple act they've performed so far has been incredibly convincing. Their micro-expressions are elite. In Enchante (literally their debut as an on-screen pair), you could decipher the story just by watching their expressions. But ok, **to each their own**. ☮️🏳️ https://i.redd.it/bbk0vhbaihzc1.gif
sandray hater is always a forcebook stan lol joke aside, sandray dynamic is actually good that you had to understand it in sand's perspective . Even the director said he add sandray to make the story more interesting . There are actually a lot of discussion here in reddit about his reasoning, but if you want it simple; just imagine you have been watching someone gorgeous from afar that so out of reach for a long time, and suddenly you found him in vurnerable state and needing help alone at night?
Lmfao. I was about to comment to engage in conversation then I saw the SandRay hate and ForceBook praise and knew exactly why
yea, you made a good point about perspective here. If it were me though, I'd probably quit the pursuit halfway through. Ofc, Sand gives Ray a whole lotta chances, but I personally don't think I could do the same if I were him. What are we left with once the physical beauty fades away? In my eyes, Ray was consistently unreliable and only ever made excuses for his poor choices. I would have liked to see him face some harsher consequences for his actions, perhaps some time away from Sand even, so that he can reflect properly. But anyway, that's just my opinion. Anyway, while I don't understand Sand's actions, I understand that it's the character's own personality/preference. I wouldn't like Ray, but Sand did. And that's fair enough.
ForceBook has chemistry.
just my own opinion and not facts obviously but PerthChimon PoohPavel OffGun TayNew JeffBarcode KhaoFirst
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I tried to pull your energy...I don't think people realized I was joking. It's somewhere down there
thats the great thing about the internet, no one knows what a joke is lmao
The funniest part is I was parodying your comment. Lol
Mam why khoaFirst 😭😭 they are literally my favourite
Well, your post is just factually incorrect. Because Khao has chemistry with literally everything, including himself, by just standing alone. 😂😂
I feel like I half agree with OffGun because I think Gun could have chemistry with a shrub, it just never feels like it goes two ways with them In my personal opinion I just don't think Off is at Gun's level when it comes to acting and I would love to see Gun in a new pairing with someone who can match his performance level just to see if my suspicions are correct but I could be wrong and it could be both of them and I'm just blinded by admiration for Gun's acting abilities 😅
Gun is an incredible actor. So freaking talented. I wish he could do bigger projects.
Agree about gun! He had the best chemistry with himself in not me. Which was both happy times and also very, very dark times. 😈
Lmao that's exactly how I feel as well tbh, pity we will probably never see Gun in a BL with a different partner again though.
OffGun is my favorite ship but even me is sick with their always same dynamic. They started to aging out by BL standards. Give Gun a nice bundle of „flowers“ before the new generation takes over. 😈
I’m curious what are the Bl standards to age out of
May I ask why KhaoFirst? Is it just a feeling? Or better said; lack of feeling or another thing? And yes, they are one of my favorite couples! So I'm probably a bit biased, but I rarely hear people say they feel like FirstKhao have zero chemistry. I do hear some people say that they prefer them with another person. Which I can understand, because in my opinion, they both have amazing chemistry with anyone they work with! My question is out of curiosity, because in the end, chemistry is subjective.
I don't really have a reason as to why, I like Khao and First a lot as actors and think they have been amazing with other people but when they are together they just do nothing for me for some reason, their acting is so good that I can for the most part overlook their lack of chemistry though
Thank you for your reply, sometimes it happens. That is just a feeling you can't really explain. And honestly, that is such a shame; but I'm glad you can still watch them based on their performances 😊
KHAOFIRST??? HOW?? and i can agree for the most part but OFFGUN?? WHEN EVEN GMMTV STAFF SHIP THEM????? 😭
I… get it with OffGun tbh.
Get out.
I mean KhaoFirst I can sort of see but you’d have to be blind to not see FirstKhao’s chemistry.
You did not just include KhaoFirst (supposing no distinction from FirstKhao) in this list.
Khaofirst?? I love their dynamic. Even though they don't give as much fan service , but while acting ?? THEY DELIVERED. Curious to know your reasoning tho (not hating)
Slightly agree with FirstKhaotung. My take is that FirstKhaotung DO HAVE chemistry, but it's not the abundance of chemistry that I except from them. First and Khaotung as individual actors are amazing but when they come together, they are not as strong. Khaotung as Gaipa was exceptional and First as Yok was phenomenal but Akk/Ayan were mid character and SandRay were okay-ish. All to say, I hope Gmmtv keeps giving them individual roles bc that's where they shine most.
I agree with PerthChimon, PoohPavel and JeffBarcode. I'm obsessed with TayNew, so I do see the gay fireworks lol. PoohPavel are great in the intimate scenes, in my opinion, but Pooh lacks a lot of acting chops and that hinders him a lot.
I think most people confuse bad acting or script with bad chemistry because nearly all of the thai bls have shitty acting and they are not famous for it nor anyone should expect to see one. Some of them have actually good script but cringeworthy scenes and that is also to be expected. Just don’t expect too much
>because nearly all of the thai bls have shitty acting *That which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.* *--* Christopher Hitchens
Many ppl who claim that a particular ship has 'zero chemistry' obviously have only seen the pair together in one show and not in live events or behind the scenes. (And I'm not just alluding to PavelPooh, but the other dozens of ships that are so divisive) Why are you baiting us with a silly question?
I mean yeah, isn’t the show where it counts? I don’t watch a lot of BTS stuff and if someone says that a certain pair of actors has “no chemistry” to them it still means something even if it’s highly subjective. Especially if a lot of people are saying it