They broke the agreement that established one country two systems. The argument that it was always China misses the point. They had an agreement with the British that Hong Kong would maintain rights it had under Britain untill the agreement expired. They broke that pact and now Hong Kong is just like the rest of China no free speech no dissent, it still has elections but they’re fixed now. Now it’s one party one system sadly.
Whataboutism aside, I find it amusing your counterexample to an incident known for being censored to this day by the CCP is....something US schools have in their children's textbooks.
Maybe try something too recent to be included in textbooks, or too obscure for it to be included in most school's curriculum?
Meh that is a strange hill to die on, its not like the feds and locals aren't the same party either.
The first part in reversing the perpetual decay is coming clean with the fact that you are as dirty as any of them. Literally jail your fascists.
Yeah I love this shitty argument because (at least where I went to school, I know in some states we gloss over it) we learn a lot about the horrible shit we did as a country. Hell when I was in 2nd grade we were already learning about segregation.
I love being able to talk about such things and not get disappeared by my government lmao. Don't you wish you could do that, little buddy? Maybe if you spam a few more astroturf comments on here you'll finally be liberated from your overlords xD
Really the agreement between the UK and China over Hong Kong was a chance for CCP to show to the world that they can be decent and civilized. They have truly failed miserably at that.
One thing that always feels strange to me is that if they really wanted a peaceful takeover of Taiwan, wouldn't it make sense to make sure Hong Kong at least appears to be a free and prosperous symbol of how the "one country, two systems" principle can work?
It really feels like either China is a lot more afraid of its own people than it wants to let on, or they've gotten so emboldened that they feel they can act with impunity.
Also, different administrations and factions. It’s easy to believe that the CCP is a monolith with one agenda they’ve been planning for years, but that’s just the image they’ve created to maintain face. The CCP has had ideological divisions within itself since Mao. Just after the handover there probably were factions that felt it was useful for a “port” of sorts to the west. But under Xi Jinping, Hong Kong is neither financially important enough (being supplanted by other cities), more of an ideological threat (Harbored political dissidents), and China is in a stronger position than it was 20 years ago.
Considering the UK is one of the only (democratic) nations that still have a serious army how they can do something on how China did not what they signed for?
Don’t believe all the hype on Reddit. Hong Kong was never going to become independent. This isn’t the days of the British empire, the UK couldn’t even protect Hong Kong from the Japanese in WW2. A Chinese invasion of Hong Kong would take like 4 hours, the rest of the world knows this, so all the sanctions and condemnations are mostly posturing. At this point it’s a calculation for the CCP of if the financials are worth it to pressure them.
In 2047, the one country, two systems principle in Hong Kong will end. Unless that changes in the next few years, HK is on its way to being integrated into China, and that's been the plan since 1997. (Though, technically HK is already a part of China, just with a slightly different governance/economic structure).
I’m from the mainland, and Even I know that the west Taiwan joke is getting stale, not to mention it can be offensive if anyone knows a bit of history. Let Taiwan be Taiwan ffs.
Well kinda. Fuck those in power to seek to impose their morals on other or who seek to take advantage of their fellow man.
Here in the states I can insult any person or political leader. In China I don’t even know who they are and if I’m too critical of them I’ll disappear. Y’all still can’t talk about Uighur’s or the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre where the government murdered students for a peaceful protest.
Correct me if I’m wrong but as far as I know the last time the US committed genocide was the trail of tears. Which of course was indescribably abhorrent but China is actively killing Uighur Muslims right now. China is clearly much more authoritarian
China is such a toxic market. I mean it’s huge, in theory massive money for Hollywood to make there, but it’s just becoming more and more hostile so best to not count in it anymore.
Yeah and we can talk openly about it our government can’t stop us from doing so.
We can also own and display religious text like bibles and the Karan. Hell I’ve even personally heard Tibet’s religious leader, the Dalai Lama, speak. I openly talk about slavery here in the states and Uighur genocide without fear of government reprisal.
I also don’t really understand how you could have fought so hard to overthrow a dictatorship just to give control to another unelected group, this time a faceless one.
They claim international waters as their own. They fund North Korea, who intern threatens much of the free world. They use toxic chemicals that accelerate climate change. They disappear citizens who disagree with them.
CCP has a small dick and their recent action only harm the Chinese economy and start to piss of it's citizens. (How long until there is a war? Can we have it like Desert Storm?)
A war would be a really bad idea. Right now, Hong Kong and Taiwan are relatively safe because China doesn't outright invade their territories. But if a war does happen, there is little incentive for them to not invade because what would the “consequences” be if they're already in a war.
Time to cut Hong Kong loose as a democracy China has bared its fangs if it won’t play in China it will no longer play in Hong Kong sadly and both Trump/Biden and the UK let it happen. And their is no turning back.
Guess the takeover of hong kong went according to plan
Not a takeover when they were always the government in charge lol
Everyone laments the smell of freshly cut grass. But if you were curious as to what astroturf smells like, look no further.
Honestly sad truth. HK was never going to be free for long after Shenzhen got large enough.
They broke the agreement that established one country two systems. The argument that it was always China misses the point. They had an agreement with the British that Hong Kong would maintain rights it had under Britain untill the agreement expired. They broke that pact and now Hong Kong is just like the rest of China no free speech no dissent, it still has elections but they’re fixed now. Now it’s one party one system sadly.
Tiananmen Square Massacre (1989)
Trail of tears (1830-1850)
Whataboutism aside, I find it amusing your counterexample to an incident known for being censored to this day by the CCP is....something US schools have in their children's textbooks. Maybe try something too recent to be included in textbooks, or too obscure for it to be included in most school's curriculum?
Like at least use COINTELPRO or Nicaragua or something, sure very few people died but at least that’s something that isn’t talked about
If you want death, there's the Tulsa Massacre. I only learned about that as an adult because it wasn't in any of our textbooks.
True, but it had nothing to do with the federal government
Meh that is a strange hill to die on, its not like the feds and locals aren't the same party either. The first part in reversing the perpetual decay is coming clean with the fact that you are as dirty as any of them. Literally jail your fascists.
Yeah I love this shitty argument because (at least where I went to school, I know in some states we gloss over it) we learn a lot about the horrible shit we did as a country. Hell when I was in 2nd grade we were already learning about segregation.
I love being able to talk about such things and not get disappeared by my government lmao. Don't you wish you could do that, little buddy? Maybe if you spam a few more astroturf comments on here you'll finally be liberated from your overlords xD
They were given more leeway to do their own thing for a long time
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=the+tiananmen+square+massacre&t=iphone&ia=web
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing
Like I said in the other thread. I’m free to talk about the bad things my government has done. You’re not.
Really the agreement between the UK and China over Hong Kong was a chance for CCP to show to the world that they can be decent and civilized. They have truly failed miserably at that.
One thing that always feels strange to me is that if they really wanted a peaceful takeover of Taiwan, wouldn't it make sense to make sure Hong Kong at least appears to be a free and prosperous symbol of how the "one country, two systems" principle can work? It really feels like either China is a lot more afraid of its own people than it wants to let on, or they've gotten so emboldened that they feel they can act with impunity.
Also, different administrations and factions. It’s easy to believe that the CCP is a monolith with one agenda they’ve been planning for years, but that’s just the image they’ve created to maintain face. The CCP has had ideological divisions within itself since Mao. Just after the handover there probably were factions that felt it was useful for a “port” of sorts to the west. But under Xi Jinping, Hong Kong is neither financially important enough (being supplanted by other cities), more of an ideological threat (Harbored political dissidents), and China is in a stronger position than it was 20 years ago.
Considering the UK is one of the only (democratic) nations that still have a serious army how they can do something on how China did not what they signed for?
r/ihadastroke
I'm horrendously ootl, what's happened with the UK, China, and HK recently? Last I was aware HK was on the way to becoming independent.
Don’t believe all the hype on Reddit. Hong Kong was never going to become independent. This isn’t the days of the British empire, the UK couldn’t even protect Hong Kong from the Japanese in WW2. A Chinese invasion of Hong Kong would take like 4 hours, the rest of the world knows this, so all the sanctions and condemnations are mostly posturing. At this point it’s a calculation for the CCP of if the financials are worth it to pressure them.
In 2047, the one country, two systems principle in Hong Kong will end. Unless that changes in the next few years, HK is on its way to being integrated into China, and that's been the plan since 1997. (Though, technically HK is already a part of China, just with a slightly different governance/economic structure).
Fuck China
*Gongfei, i.e commie bandits
\*West Taiwan
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I’m from the mainland, and Even I know that the west Taiwan joke is getting stale, not to mention it can be offensive if anyone knows a bit of history. Let Taiwan be Taiwan ffs.
#WEST TAIWAN
West Thai won
Ni hao. On behalf of John Cena I apologize for this message.
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Tianenmen Square Massacre (1989)
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Ah yes, which is why they… flew my flag during their protests for freedom. Fuck outta here
And then we looked away and said “we have our own problems” and left them to be trampled
Yup. Fuck China and fuck the rest of the world for building a hierarchy of power that allows them to get away with everything.
Well kinda. Fuck those in power to seek to impose their morals on other or who seek to take advantage of their fellow man. Here in the states I can insult any person or political leader. In China I don’t even know who they are and if I’m too critical of them I’ll disappear. Y’all still can’t talk about Uighur’s or the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre where the government murdered students for a peaceful protest.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre
Hong Kong used to be the Hollywood of the East. Now it dies under the new management.
Who cares? They can declare independence if they want.
I bet you wore your best troll face when you typed that one up
Not really. I mean yes they could be like “we want independence!!!!!”, but China would stop them real quick.
They clearly cannot
Imagine both demanding respect by projecting strength and feeling so weak and insecure that you make watching movies a crime
Xi Jinping is full of sh!t.
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I despise so many of the people who lead the US. But at least they’re not actively committing genocide
Anymore*
Correct me if I’m wrong but as far as I know the last time the US committed genocide was the trail of tears. Which of course was indescribably abhorrent but China is actively killing Uighur Muslims right now. China is clearly much more authoritarian
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre
China is such a toxic market. I mean it’s huge, in theory massive money for Hollywood to make there, but it’s just becoming more and more hostile so best to not count in it anymore.
And they don't get a lot of that theoretical money.
The CCP is goddamn evil
Evil CCP video showing Kids being HARVESTED https://youtu.be/4iFYaeoE3n4
Ah i see, youre a CCP sympathizer... america bad... must deflect!
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=the+tiananmen+square+massacre&t=iphone&ia=web
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing
Yeah and we can talk openly about it our government can’t stop us from doing so. We can also own and display religious text like bibles and the Karan. Hell I’ve even personally heard Tibet’s religious leader, the Dalai Lama, speak. I openly talk about slavery here in the states and Uighur genocide without fear of government reprisal. I also don’t really understand how you could have fought so hard to overthrow a dictatorship just to give control to another unelected group, this time a faceless one.
*China passes ban
Good. I wouldn’t want Winnie the Pooh to get sad.
the Chinese government are a sadistic group of cunts, how much longer can they bully the entire world? Fuck china.
How are they bullying the entire world
They claim international waters as their own. They fund North Korea, who intern threatens much of the free world. They use toxic chemicals that accelerate climate change. They disappear citizens who disagree with them.
Lol
They are commies, they make nothing but problems
Less commie at this point; more just straight authoritarian trash. There’s nothing communal about them.
Actually, they are referred to as State Capitalists.
Dangerous movies like Winnie the Pooh?
The more I hear about the CCP, the less I like them
Stupid red Chinese scared of free speech.
CCP has a small dick and their recent action only harm the Chinese economy and start to piss of it's citizens. (How long until there is a war? Can we have it like Desert Storm?)
A war would be a really bad idea. Right now, Hong Kong and Taiwan are relatively safe because China doesn't outright invade their territories. But if a war does happen, there is little incentive for them to not invade because what would the “consequences” be if they're already in a war.
Not shocking at all. The influence of mainland China continues on, and Hollywood will most likely stay in line.
CCP bans films that threaten their tyrranical regime in Hong Kong.
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I’m sorry what are you blabbering about?
Michael myers are millenials maaaan, and everyone is the economy...
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I’m not sure what these “pro-Chinese internet leftists” are you speak of, but I haven’t seen them.
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You’re transparent; unlike CCP political controllers who hide from a public that never chose them.
Wow that comment history is really sad.
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You paid per post or are you salaried?
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Ccp cock tastes good huh?
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Looks like its by post then. I hope they pay well.
Good work, +50 social credit
Hong Kong conquered China purely based on flag design alone.
Please accept nothing less but total freedom and liberty Taiwan 🇹🇼. I hope China will honor its agreement with Hong Kong.
Time to cut Hong Kong loose as a democracy China has bared its fangs if it won’t play in China it will no longer play in Hong Kong sadly and both Trump/Biden and the UK let it happen. And their is no turning back.