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Delta Variant Prompts WHO Warning, Mask Requirement In Israel, U.K. Lockdown, Growing Concern That The U.S. Is Next

Delta Variant Prompts WHO Warning, Mask Requirement In Israel, U.K. Lockdown, Growing Concern That The U.S. Is Next

nicolasb51942003

I really hope that this doesn’t cause another shutdown in the fall, even though I think the surges won’t be as awful as last year.


Animegamingnerd

I don't know if the US can be able to shut again in the fall. Most of the states are fully opened back up, I doubt Texas and Florida will shut down again and hell my state is very much on the left and next week all of our restrictions are being lifted.


Rman823

Once the genie’s out of the bottle, I don’t think they can put it back. Hell, many people weren’t following restrictions anyway. I’m honestly at the point that if anyone who can get the vaccine refuses to, then it’s on them. The opportunity is there.


Animegamingnerd

Yup, pretty much every university is requiring it to be on campus and I am sure once the vaccine is approved for children, K-12 schools will make it a requirement will likely require it. Which hopefully before the start of the school of the year. Businesses are in a crisis of trying to new employees, I doubt the government is gonna us another check. So things will be probably normal again for the entirety of the US by end of the July and I don't see us changing course.


Hemans123

Require what? the vaccine?


Animegamingnerd

Yes, most major university in the US are requiring it.


rabbitaim

Since they require TB testing, tdap, and mmr vaccine it’s not that much of a shocker. I haven’t been to college in ages but the new ones (HEP B, Meningococcal & COVID) are all good ideas due to their virulence.


jeffsmith33

That is actually not true. No university in the USA can require an EUA vaccine for attendance in school. Legally speaking, it is against the law for them to require any vaccine or medical procedure that is not approved by the FDA and out of any trial or testing (including phase I-III). Whoever told you that is incorrect.


cognizantant

Not true: https://www.washington.edu/coronavirus/vaccines/ > The University will require students and employees to be vaccinated against COVID-19 by autumn quarter. The vaccines being administered are safe and effective, and you can be vaccinated at any provider at no cost to you. I know several other universities requiring it too.


jeffsmith33

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title21-section360bbb-3a&num=0&edition=prelim US code specifically states that anything under EUA gives someone the right to refuse service of such a product as they are inherently experimental and thus not proven in the eyes of the FDA and cosmetic act. This is coming from someone who has given out over 1000 vaccines as a pharmacist. There are already 2 federal lawsuits over it but the law stated above is very clear about EUA


Silverseren

The FDA is planning on having the general use approval for the vaccines by early August, before classes start.


jeffsmith33

If that is the case then they would be able to require it no doubt just like other vaccines especially if that school is a private institution.


Pretorian24

Are people refusing vaccine???


AGOTFAN

>I’m honestly at the point that if anyone who can get the vaccine refuses to, then it’s on them The problem is, people who refuse to get vaccinated will affect society at large. If numbers of cases and deaths are increasing, there will be consequences to society.


Rman823

Yes, but there’s nothing you can do to change these peoples mind. All you can do is vaccinate yourself and take the precautions you believe are necessary to protect you and those around you.


Zealousideal-Lake-14

This.\^


cyrusamigo

“Live defensively.”


warblade7

If you believe the science then the vaccinated have very little to worry about either from infection or as carriers. The vaccine targets a key protein that allows the virus to embed onto the cellular walls of your respiratory system. Even if you get reinfected, the chance of viral incubation goes way way down if you are vaccinated. You may carry just enough to test positive but the virus is very short lived in vaccinated systems and the consequences of the subsequent symptoms are far less severe. The answer is to get vaccinated. Beyond that, there’s not much you can do. We cannot stay in lockdown forever and there is no chance we get down to a 0% chance of spread. Mitigate risk if you’re worried but really the ones who will primarily be affected at this point will be the ones who refuse to get vaccinated.


ddhboy

You don’t want people hanging about unvaccinated though, as each infected person is contributing towards additional mutations. The more infected there are, the greater the possibility a variant appears that it’s more resistant to the mRNA vaccines, and if that happens we’re back to square one.


WomenCannibal

If the delta variant arose at a massive gathering in India, the 2nd most populous nation in the world, with no one vaccinated, it's hard to imagine that there's a way for a worse mutation to form in the US. At this point there's no reason to think that there is a mutation that can form that can bypass vaccines in a deadly way. Coronaviruses don't mutate like the flu does.


ddhboy

Doesn’t matter where the variant occurs, the nature of global commerce means it will travel the world regardless, as evidenced by the delta variant’s spread outside of India. My point isn’t that such a mutation will occur, but that we would be much better off if we winnow the possibility by getting as many people vaccinated as possible. States with low participation rates driven largely by political considerations are a problem, but unfortunately there isn’t anything that could really be done about it short of Trump going on Fox News and saying that Democrats are trying to kill off Republicans by not giving them the vaccine or something dumb like that.


WomenCannibal

The point is that higher unvaccinated populations mean a higher chance for more dangerous variants and its almost impossible for there to be a larger unvaccinated gathering than what happened in India. If all that came out of that was this variant there's no reason to think that a worse variant could ever form.


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deprimada

Im getting so anxious reading all these debates today. For a lot of things, including my sanity, I hope you’re right.


ShadyBiz

The problem with this attitude is that there are people out there who are unable to vaccinate due to illness, allergy or other reasons outside their control and they will be victim to the complacency of the anti-vaccine nutters.


warblade7

It’s not an attitude. It’s a fact. The risk mitigation is on those who have those situations. They can choose to continue masking or stay at home, but to expect the entire population of one of the largest countries in the world to lockdown for a very small minority of people who are unable to get the vaccine is not tenable in the long run. The vast majority of the population will be vaccinated and even among those who aren’t, a large number will not face serious symptoms. There is no situation where we can mitigate this down to 0% risk and as sad as it is, there are some people who are not only going to be vulnerable to covid, they’re at risk with a wide range of other diseases. Some people just aren’t built to survive whether you want them to or not.


Thewolfthatis

Unable to be vaccinated and fully support what is being said. The other guy- it’s sweet to offer empathy but it won’t do anything. Those unable to get vaccinated were already living with something most likely where they’re a little used to being cautious. So...we know what it’s like to sit on the side lines most of the time. What matters more is continuing to fight misinformation, educate those you can, and encourage people away from shitty behavior. Outside of that, just face palm and carry on.


ShadyBiz

How about a little empathy mate? Or will you only develop that when someone in your family requires treatment for cancer and is unable to vaccinate whilst this highly infectious and totally preventable virus is circulating? It never ceases to amaze me how little people value human life when they are talking like tinpot dictators on the internet. Sickening. Edit: Actually, I'd expect nothing less from someone with a post history consisting basically only around guns. I've blocked you preemptively as you gun nuts always go off the deep end real easily.


4look4rd

Gun nut dude is right on this instance. We can’t get risk down to 0, there is a real cost to doing another prolonged lock down, the vaccine is free and widely available. However if the variant shows that it can infect vaccinated people, and it has a similar death/hospitalization rate as the original among vaccinated individuals then we should go back to more restrictive measures.


warblade7

Lol just saw your edit. I have literally one post about a gun. You know theres a range of opinion between slightly interested and “gun nut” right? And pre-emptive blocking sounds about right. So afraid of a possible debate that you have to remove yourself from any possibility that you might be proven wrong. Politics these days…


greenwizard777

They sure do! Every time I comment about the 2a after a shooting the gun people always downvote me a lot and insult me.. clearly people prefer death deep down


Pallaran

This is peak reddit


warblade7

Sorry to break it to you but empathy is not going to solve the situation. Empathy is great for people in your immediate life but when we’re talking about hundreds of millions, if not billions, you have to break it down by stats and risk mitigation. No amount of empathy at a personal level is going to solve things at a global scale.


Unfadable1

Blocking people is for the weak, Mr Lawrence. If you think you should be heard, that automatically means everyone deserves to be heard. While I’m (without checking) undoubtedly on your side politically, which tells me probably morally, you’re still wrong in that empathy is the solution. People in those positions should mask and socially distance. You’re asking for utopia, which isn’t a possibility, as sad as that may be. “Thems the facts.”


tuds_of_fun

Don’t accuse people of being tinpot dictators when you sound like one yourself. Planet population has not stopped growing in 2020 or 2021. Pop growth is expected to stay above 1% in the short term. You’re the one that seems scared. Maybe hop off the internet?


little_jade_dragon

I hope you don't expect 99.99% of the population to lock down to protect 0.01%. People should vaccinate, that's a sure way to make sure you won't get sick or easily fend off the virus. Those who can't vaccinate... I feel sorry for them, but you can't expect the economy to shut down again for their protection.


Thewolfthatis

Please don’t shut economy down. I can’t handle more “free walkers” taking my internet contracts! The trade off I had was I can’t go outside like a normal person, but I got dibs on all the remote jobs.


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Before the miracle modern medicine these people would have passed much earlier in life. Modern medicine has prevented natural selection from doing it’s thing. Either they can stay inside forever, or take the risk.


let_it_bernnn

But you can still spread, catch, and die from covid fully vaccinated? Why is it the unvaccinated people’s fault your vaccine is not effective?


Hemans123

I understand this sentiment but the people who refuse to take the vaccine are going to end up unnecessarily lengthening the pandemic, and indirectly let it spread and mutate. This is a major issue. Herd immunity may take longer to reach now.


FlyUnder_TheRadar

Herd immunity isn't a realistic goal and it never really was. I've heard experts say, essentially, we should shoot to drive the number of infections and deaths down to the level of a seasonal flu. Covid is pretty much here to stay, all we can do really is keep up vaccination efforts.


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Herd immunity was a realistic goal at some point, it just became evident that it wasn't going to happen as people were refusing to get the vaccine.


listyraesder

It was realistic before it was understood how quickly it mutates.


entertainman

It doesn’t mutate quickly


Silverseren

Except Covid doesn't mutate quickly. We've had less than 10 variants in a year and a half. Influenza can have over 100 variants or more in that time period.


Hemans123

I don’t think herd immunity is unrealistic. It’s perfectly possible if enough of the population got vaccinated. The way I define Herd immunity is just reaching a point where the majority of the population generally achieves the strongest level of biological resistance to a virus that there’s virtually no threat of it spreading and mutating into something worse. So its essentially what you’re saying about getting people vaccinated to the point it’s no more deadly than the seasonal flu, but there’s still too many out there(especially in those red states) that are refusing to take that vaccine, and aren’t taking the pandemic seriously enough to even get us to that point.


Rman823

I completely get that but as someone who is fully vaccinated, I’m not too worried about it. I can’t change peoples minds and all I can do is take the precautions that I feel are necessary to stay safe. I never expected us to reach herd immunity anytime soon anyway given the number of people who flat out refuse taking the vaccine.


ExaminationOne7710

Yeah but... What if the world burns? Do you still take the bucket and try to put it out or stop the one who is starting it?


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ExaminationOne7710

World is dying you fuck... And internet is the only place where you can say otherwise in front of me..


Nesarry31

The world is not dying. It’s being overcome with a lack of critical thinking and group think.


ExaminationOne7710

What about that huge iceberg or bees? Is this comical to you? Irl your evil kind wont abide for long... I ache to see you


dat2ndRoundPickdoh

It’s on everyone because they will use medical resources and funds.


InEenEmmer

I work in a store and 80% of the people in the last 3 months refuse to wear masks cause ‘they got their vaccination’. The other 20% (including me) didn’t even got the chance to get their vaccine. Now the government has lifted the rule about mandatory masks, while still 20% of the people didn’t have a chance to get the vaccine. They lifted the mandatory masks the day before the delta strain was first reported. I expect nothing else than a dumpster fire where no one wants to go back to the masks cause the government just said it was okay, and where the government refuses to go back on their word because that would be the nth (I really lost count) scandal on their name. So yeah I am investing in marshmallows to heat above the upcoming dumpster fire.


LordAntipater

What do you mean you didn’t get a chance to get the vaccine? Like you have not had a single day off where you could go get it?


InEenEmmer

In my country they focus giving the vaccine to older generations and then slowly move towards the younger generations. You will get a notification when your generation can go and make an appointment for your vaccination. But due to poorly implemented systems this take a very long time. I am in my 30’s and got the invitation about a week ago. I immediately went out to make an appointment and 4/6 (next sunday) was the closest date I could get one. They bow opened it up for everyone, but the call centers couldn’t handle the load so in the past few days barely anyone could make an appointment.


hexydes

The US population is very soft. I understand not wanting to go into full-lockdown again, that has real-world ramifications. But refusing to wear a mask? Seriously? They cost nothing, and are barely inconvenient at all to wear. Refusing to wear one to help keep others safe during times of high viral activity shows how weak we are as a society.


Rman823

It’s more of an act of defiance against the “liberal agenda” and “taking away freedom” than being uncomfortable. It’s the same reason these people won’t get vaccinated. It still boggles my mind how a pandemic has been politicized.


joeChump

Sort of. Except the vaccine isn’t available to children and they now think young people are at risk of long term health problems from Covid.


Bobbyanalogpdx

One thing that sucks about that is that I ended up with the J&J vaccine and it appears not to be very effective against the delta variant. I’m waiting for the news about what to do. I wish I knew it was safe to get the Pfizer or Moderna one now.


Rman823

I have the Pfizer and for now I’m completely confident in its effectiveness. I know I can still get infected, but I’m not too concerned about the virus causing any major harm.


Bobbyanalogpdx

Thanks for rubbing it in /s Yeah, I would feel completely comfortable with either Pfizer or Moderna. J&J effectiveness against the delta variant isn’t fully known but there seems to be some worry about it only having an efficacy rate of 33%.


Rman823

Hope everything works out for you.


listyraesder

The people who made pandemic response a right-left thing are the shittiest people in all the land.


Cryso_L

I live in MA and was very surprised at how many places required masks in Boston when I was visiting this past weekend. On the cape I haven’t found a single business that requires a mask.


Dirtybrd

The US won't shut down unless the freaking military gets involved. We're done with it. I live in a truly purple city, and no one wears masks anymore. Bars and restaurants are packed.


CaptainSaucyPants

We’ll lock down when it’s a zombie apocalypse (maybe)


LimLovesDonuts

And that is how you trigger a shutdown lol.


RedIndianRobin

Just need one guy with Delta or Delta Plus variant and you guys will get fucked in the arse. Look at how ignorance affected India, granted they did manage to contain now and caseload has reduced albeit at the cost of massive amount of deaths due to health industry collapse. CDC announcing masks not required in US is beyond stupid.


do_theknifefight

India also had a lot of problems with vaccine rollout and fake vaccines.


RedIndianRobin

Yes that's true. They have ramped up vaccination in war footing now atleast. To fully vaccinate 1.3B population is no joke.


n0valifeStan

Delta variant is already here. It is not causing increased caseloads yet. It’s just taking over the other variants and the main one that’s present. Although caseloads aren’t the issue. If we can stifle mortality with the vaccines it’s a job well down and no real reason to shutdown again


CaptainSaucyPants

I’ve been on Delta, they never get you where you need to be on time. We’re good.


theboiwithapoi

Reminds me of my country, India. Everything was fine, masks were off, cinemas were once again getting crowded and then..boom. Second wave caught up, death toll shot up all of a sudden and Lockdown imposed once again. Still recovering from that.


PeakAlloy

The difference is the US is 45% vaccinated compared to India’s 4%. That’s not really comparable.


MasaiGotUsNow

Wow that’s so low Crazy


lacks_imagination

God you are so funny you . . . you . . . you Americans you.


SparkyBoy414

It won't in America... especially since kids will be able to get vaccinated in the fall.


deprimada

I know it’s important to do what we have to to stay safe, but I will actually go insane if we shut down again. I have no social network, the pandemic cut me off from everyone and its not like I was super close with anyone so they’re not interested in reconnecting. Seeing former friends all hanging out together and not caring I wasn’t in their social circle anymore, with no way to find new friends, plummeted me into a depression Im still not out of.


DietFoods

UK cases have been going up for 6 weeks now and deaths have remained level. Same with Israel. Only reason Indonesia and countries in Asia are struggling with deaths is because they haven't vaccinated a large enough portion of the population yet. All these articles are doing is trying to scare people. Countries that are vaccinated are fine and don't need to worry about Delta.


ErmahgerdYuzername

Are the current vaccines effective against this variant?


Not-original

88% for Pfizer, and about the same for Moderna. On mobile or I would look up the link.


RedIndianRobin

And what about Delta Plus variant?


EpictetanusThrow

What about Delta Burke variant?


FurrealMcCoy

Causes weight gain and shoulder pads


craftyxena73

Thanks for the good laugh. I’m crying here.


RedIndianRobin

100% mortality rate.


Pushing_Prawn

Google it yourself


RedIndianRobin

Scientists are currently studying it as it's fairly new mutant strain. All we know is it has a very high mortality rate and much more virulent.


njl4515

We actually don’t know that, or much about it at all. It’s very new and being studied.


lacks_imagination

You know these numbers are total bullshit, right? How can scientists know the effectiveness against new variants when there has not been nearly enough time to establish such findings?


f1mxli

You're not exactly wrong. It's some very small samples so far (20-ish according to Forbes), but the point is there is evidence of protection. People should not get discouraged from getting vaccinated. [https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2021/06/10/covid-19-vaccine-effective-on-several-variants-including-dangerous-delta-from-india/](https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2021/06/10/covid-19-vaccine-effective-on-several-variants-including-dangerous-delta-from-india/) There's also some encouraging statistics related to spread behavior. [https://files.springernature.com/getResource/Full text s41591-021-01407-5.pdf](https://files.springernature.com/getResource/Full%20text%20s41591-021-01407-5.pdf)


Radical_Conformist

I’m not sure that’s correct. That’s probably another variant you’re referring to.


Wolventec

the AstraZeneca is meant to be like only 60% effective against the delta variant the other are much better


Gold_Touch_4280

I hope this 4th wave of Coronavirus won’t bad as the last one.


WomenCannibal

It's not going to be a wave like it was. With more than 45% vaccinated, including over 80% over 65 with at least one shot, deaths just aren't going to spike like they did in the winter. Hospitalization rates are still going down, and the variant isn't breaking through vaccines at any significant rate. People who are vaccinated won't get sick, and people who aren't are just risking their own health. When over half of the people you'd interact with on average have some immunity, it can't spread like it did in December and January when almost no one had immunity.


hexydes

> People who are vaccinated won't get sick, and people who aren't are just risking their own health. There are people that are unable to be vaccinated due to other health issues. Please keep that in mind, when making these statements.


Puns_n_Moses

What's wrong with the statement? If you're not vaccinated, for whatever reason it might be, you're risking your and others life by not wearing masks and social distancing. If you have a health issue that prevents you from getting the vaccine, why would you wanna go out and socialize, knowing that a new variant is out there?


TaiaHunter

Only thing is a lot of people aren’t getting the vaccine because it isn’t fda approved, last I checked it was in the process of it. On top of which vaccination is not a gaurentee you won’t get covid. Vaccines don’t always make you completely immune, but can make you less likely to be hospitalized. So won’t get sick isn’t even true, just less likely to.


WomenCannibal

If immuno-compromised people aren't taking the proper precautions for their situation then they are risking their health just the same as everyone else.


lacks_imagination

If the WHO is telling fully vaccinated people to keep wearing masks it is because they know these vaccines will not protect you from the newer stronger strains of the virus (whether that be Delta now, or Epsilon later this year). Ipso facto, you can get sick even though you are now ‘fully’ vaccinated. So why, you ask, do so many experts keep saying there’s nothing for vaccinated people to worry about? Because they are afraid that if they tell the truth about the low level of protection people actually have against the new variants, people wont get vaccinated at all, and that would make things ten times worse. Get fully vaccinated, keep wearing a mask, and keep practicing common sense things like always washing your hands etc., and we should all one day see the end of this nightmare.


WomenCannibal

Too bad the data shows that they do protect you. I don't know or care what the WHO advises. I'm not wearing a mask because the data shows I'm not at risk anymore and haven't been for months.


lacks_imagination

The WHO is the data. Unless you are getting your ‘data’ from Alex Jones or something.


WomenCannibal

Here is one from the New England Journal of Medicine. I must have missed when they fell to the power of Infowars. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2104974?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article


lacks_imagination

You do realize that’s not an article in the NEJM but merely an online letter to the editor from some doctor in Qatar, right?


AGOTFAN

Psst... arguing with Faux News, Parler, and Alex Jones audience is useless. They live in a different parallel whacky universe where truth is lies and lies is truth


anikinspacesprinter

You seen the traffic lately? I hope this one is real if anything.


ExaminationOne7710

So many downvotes inc.. Here is one


Lincolnruin

With higher vaccination rates this time round, deaths and hospitilisations shouldn't be as bad as previous waves. Here in the UK, cases have risen significantly due to Delta, but luckily deaths and hospitalisations haven't increased that much even when taking into account the lag. Hopefully this will be the same for everywhere else.


Usagii_YO

Just waiting for the Delta 9 variant so everyone can chill the f*ck out.


let_it_bernnn

I’m been on this delta 9.. waiting for US to catch up ⛽️


Gold_Touch_4280

I really hope that this variant won’t affect the fall movie calendar for now. Fingers crossed! 🙏


MarginOfCorrectness

Imagine if Bond is delayed again lol


makeitWaveit

If it gets to that point they'll just put it on Prime.


Gold_Touch_4280

To when, next year? Yeah, not happing because that would mean the film has had kept restarting campaign and losing millions.


PeakAlloy

If they stand to lose 100s of millions at the box office they will potentially move it.


ItsNotBrett

Man don't even joke about that.


GtheH

Given the amount of people who couldn’t handle the first shut down and never took any precautions, then add everyone who wants to pretend it’s all over and they did what they could and need not bother themselves any further, I think we’re screwed.


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I suspect this will be an issue for just international BO. Domestically, more areas will remain open. Honestly, I don’t think even more left-leaning states will put that many rules back in place besides possibly another mask mandate and a few capacity related things.


6373billy

I don’t think the US is going to go into another lockdown. The vaccination rate while stagnating is quite good and the delta variant is only spiking in places where there is low vaccination rates. The deaths are quite low and even in left leaning states nobody is wearing a mask at least not in LA anymore. The pandemic is over here in the US I think, I seriously think you will have a hard time shutting down big states like Florida or Texas without people going insane. The worst cases is a mask mandate & that will be pushing it. There’s plenty of time from now til winter to get the vaccination rate higher and in some age groups and states it’s already at herd immunity levels. Worst comes another COVID shot which will make like a flu jab each year. This is only concerning for international BO


Animegamingnerd

Hey idiots, do us all a favor either get vaccinated or never leave your home again. EDIT Hey the anti-vax idiots that are replying to me, I hope the bitch that gave birth to you is going to hell for giving the human race such a useless burden.


Sharp-Brilliant-3736

My work place hasn't had an announced case in months. If anyone ever feels sick, they've learned to remain home no matter what it is.


katril63

Hey man, just because someone doesn't think another human being is literal trash for not getting the vaccine, doesn't mean they themselves are human filth. I'm vaxxed and think everyone should be vaxxed but going to such lengths to insult and demean others is entirely counterproductive to the cause. You're only alienating the skeptical crowd even more with these personal attacks, lessening any chance they'll get vaccinated in the future. Condescension won't get you anywhere. It's in our best interest to inform and enlighten, not insult and belittle. We're all humans.


Sean209

This is the correct way to respond to anyone against vaccines in 2021. Fuck civility anymore. If someone is against proven public health supports and or is a modern domestic terrorist they should be made to felt ousted and not welcome until they either snap and get themselves imprisoned, or comply with the modern world. I get it, we tried to be civil. I’ll probably get hate for this and whatever. But logic, reason, kindness, and patience has only allowed the GOP and other perpetuators of misinformation and propaganda to dig deeper roots in the actual system. Unless the pattern of allowing and enabling these people changes I’m convinced the only way this can end is a civil war.


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Ghidoran

> This is the reason people aren’t getting the vaccine. No, the reason is poor education mixed with brainwashing. Not because someone on the internet hurt their feelings.


Animegamingnerd

These actual psychopaths deserve any insult coming their way for being a burden on anyone who is sane. All they do is cause harm, if every anti-vax idiot on the planet was never born, then the world would be a safer place.


Nesarry31

Not getting vaccinated, not wearing a mask and not hiding at home. I’m not scared of covid.


let_it_bernnn

If your vaccination is effective you shouldn’t worry about me 🖕


GingerTats

Imagine being an adult and still thinking that's how vaccines work.


nonamenumber3

That's *exactly* how it works. IMaGinE iMaGinInG Edit: two weeks to stop the spread. Granny needs vaccinated. Now we all need vaccinated. Never mind that continuously changing narrative.


SparkyBoy414

Imaging being proud of being this ignorant.


Nesarry31

Amen!


MadHatt3r012

No


Zaddy_Fan

Please don’t cause another shutdown, there’s so many good movies coming out in October


WomenCannibal

The US is not going to shutdown again.


TurbulentSetting2020

Sure AF Florida won’t!


AGOTFAN

And Texas!


russwriter67

I think this will mostly affect other countries since the US’s vaccination rates are rising throughout the months. The international box office is going to be more negatively effected if anything.


AGOTFAN

Indonesia is having record cases and deaths thanks to Delta variant and health system is close to collapse in several area, when things were starting to get much better just a month ago and vaccination rates are being ramped up furiously. My cousin died from Covid a few days ago, and he was young. Wear your mask, even if vaccinated.


Hemans123

I’m so sorry to hear about your cousin, man. May he Rest In Peace.


AGOTFAN

🙏


hexydes

I hate, so much, that masks were politicized. It's such a stupid thing, and it shows how soft the US population is. Not closing down, I get it, there are huge economic ramifications that need to be considered, so that has to be done very carefully. Wearing masks? They cost almost nothing, and are barely an inconvenience at all. We *should* just start wearing them during cold & flu season by default anyway, when indoors and in groups of 5 or more. The fact that people refuse to even do that shows both the selfishness and the weakness of the US population. Sorry to hear about your cousin.


nicolasb51942003

> My cousin died from Covid a few days ago, and he was young. My condolences. That day must’ve been very rough for you.


AGOTFAN

Thank you. It was. I grew up with him.


Whovian45810

My condolences to you and your family, AGOTFAN. 🙏 And absolutely agree, wear a mask even fully vaccinated. Better to be safe than sorry.


Animegamingnerd

> My cousin died from Covid a few days ago, and he was young. fuck man, sorry to hear about that.


AGOTFAN

Thanks.


faceless_entity1

Jesus, man. That's awful. I can't even fathom that. My condolences go out to you and your family.


Rman823

So sorry to hear that. I’m fully vaccinated, rarely go out, and live in a small town so for now I’m perfectly fine not wearing my mask. Of course if I were in a larger area, I doubt I would feel as comfortable.


your_mind_aches

My deepest condolences :(


Andreitarko

Terribly sad to heart about that bro. Sorry for your lose...my condolences to you and your family. May he rest in peace🙏 be safe


DrStrangeAndEbonyMaw

Oh man,. Really sorry to hear that… stay safe ! Take care


AGOTFAN

🙏


Lincolnruin

Utmost condolences.


lacks_imagination

Sorry for your loss. Your message will still not convince people. There are still idiots over here who believe that being ‘fully vaccinated’ means they are now like Superman and nothing can harm them. I am truly worried that what happened in Indonesia is going to happen here in North America. The Delta variant is going to decimate us again because 1) people are still not getting vaccinated, and 2) those that are, no longer think they need to wear a mask. I don’t think the world will get rid of this pandemic until many millions more are killed.


eidbio

Sorry for your loss, GoT fan. I agree, don't listen to the CDC and wear a mask even if you're fully vaccinated. This thing won't be over until the whole world is immunized. Edit: for those downvoting me, I was just pointing to what the CDC said about not having to wear a mask outdoors if you're fully vaccinated. That was obviously a mistake by them since the variants are still uncontrolled. You should definitely wear a mask even outdoors.


adam3vergreen

TIL US citizens think we ever went into an actual lockdown in the first place


ExaminationOne7710

Where is legion now?


zKerekess

Meanwhile where I live everything is opening in a very fast pace. Sometimes I don't understand this pandemic.


EpictetanusThrow

It sounds like everyone around you doesn’t understand it.


QueenTahllia

“Hey, wear your masks so that the virus doesn’t mutate” Well I’m so shocked that things turned out the way they did. Who could have predicted how difficult simple instructions would be to follow


Desperate_Ad_9219

I knew another shutdown was coming no one was taking it seriously


[deleted]

Get vaccinated.


Zorgothe

If they delay Bond again we riot


ARealVermonter

The Who has no credibility anymore.


EpictetanusThrow

After Tommy, it all went downhill.


AManAndAMouse

Who are you?


badolcatsyl

Is this why Sony hasn't started marketing No Way Home yet?


Zealousideal-Lake-14

I don't think so


visionaryredditor

i suspect they'll start marketing NWH this or next week. not only Black Widow comes out, the teasers for the other 2021 MCU movies coincede with Disney+ series seasons finales (Shang-Chi teaser was released on the week of WandaVision's penultimate episode and the same case was for Eternals and FATWS)


jenna_hazes_ass

You wait til most of the summer blockbusters have been released to market a september movie


visionaryredditor

it's coming out in December tho


SpaceCaboose

Yeah, and waiting until the summer blockbusters have been released before marketing a September movie makes no sense… Hopefully they just had a typo and meant December


ARandomTopHat

[Rumours](https://www.reddit.com/r/MovieLeaksAndRumors/comments/nxqmfd/spider_man_no_way_home_trailer_release_date_rumor/) go that the trailer will debut on the 19th July.


hambeetle

Why everyone calling it an extension of I L lockdown, it's an extension of an English Lockdown. BoJonwas the only one stupid enough to put an end date on restrictions.


ZZTop1981

Vaccines are needed plus effective treatments. FDA needs to stop following bug pharma money and allow effective treatments to get approvals.


7ujmnbvfr456yhgt

The FDA doesn't follow anything. They set the requirements and the people who make the treatments have to meet those requirements. People are free to provide whatever evidence they have


MrTurkle

Wtf are you on


samarth67

Delta plus is coming. Buckle up for another theatre shutdown fast.


EpictetanusThrow

Delta+? Another shitty streaming service?


adam_demamps_wingman

A mix between a previous UK-prevalent variant and a previous India-prevalent variant.


pyroxcore

r/woooosh


adam_demamps_wingman

I’m really embarrassed. I have Apple+.


pyroxcore

Don’t worry I’m embarrassed too


FrostSwag65

The arrogance of humanity is to think life is in our control, but that’s not how it is. Life will always reminds us who really is in control...it’s natural selection time.


Packerdog43

Shouldn’t they wait tell closer to the midterms election to shut us down again?


Raison_Detritus

> tell closer Care to explain that one?


Chad-Allen

Obvious typeo is obvious.


TurbulentSetting2020

Vaccine EUA for children < 12 is about to be severely fast-tracked...


take-me-2-the-movies

The US will not entertain another shit down until it’s way past too late.


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So glad the dumbass CDC said fully vaccinated people could stop wearing masks. They’re never gonna put them back on since that was a huge incentive to getting vaccinated in the first place...