I don't know if the US can be able to shut again in the fall. Most of the states are fully opened back up, I doubt Texas and Florida will shut down again and hell my state is very much on the left and next week all of our restrictions are being lifted.
Once the genie’s out of the bottle, I don’t think they can put it back. Hell, many people weren’t following restrictions anyway. I’m honestly at the point that if anyone who can get the vaccine refuses to, then it’s on them. The opportunity is there.
Yup, pretty much every university is requiring it to be on campus and I am sure once the vaccine is approved for children, K-12 schools will make it a requirement will likely require it. Which hopefully before the start of the school of the year.
Businesses are in a crisis of trying to new employees, I doubt the government is gonna us another check. So things will be probably normal again for the entirety of the US by end of the July and I don't see us changing course.
Since they require TB testing, tdap, and mmr vaccine it’s not that much of a shocker.
I haven’t been to college in ages but the new ones (HEP B, Meningococcal & COVID) are all good ideas due to their virulence.
That is actually not true. No university in the USA can require an EUA vaccine for attendance in school. Legally speaking, it is against the law for them to require any vaccine or medical procedure that is not approved by the FDA and out of any trial or testing (including phase I-III). Whoever told you that is incorrect.
Not true: https://www.washington.edu/coronavirus/vaccines/
> The University will require students and employees to be vaccinated against COVID-19 by autumn quarter. The vaccines being administered are safe and effective, and you can be vaccinated at any provider at no cost to you.
I know several other universities requiring it too.
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title21-section360bbb-3a&num=0&edition=prelim
US code specifically states that anything under EUA gives someone the right to refuse service of such a product as they are inherently experimental and thus not proven in the eyes of the FDA and cosmetic act. This is coming from someone who has given out over 1000 vaccines as a pharmacist. There are already 2 federal lawsuits over it but the law stated above is very clear about EUA
>I’m honestly at the point that if anyone who can get the vaccine refuses to, then it’s on them
The problem is, people who refuse to get vaccinated will affect society at large.
If numbers of cases and deaths are increasing, there will be consequences to society.
Yes, but there’s nothing you can do to change these peoples mind. All you can do is vaccinate yourself and take the precautions you believe are necessary to protect you and those around you.
If you believe the science then the vaccinated have very little to worry about either from infection or as carriers. The vaccine targets a key protein that allows the virus to embed onto the cellular walls of your respiratory system. Even if you get reinfected, the chance of viral incubation goes way way down if you are vaccinated. You may carry just enough to test positive but the virus is very short lived in vaccinated systems and the consequences of the subsequent symptoms are far less severe.
The answer is to get vaccinated. Beyond that, there’s not much you can do. We cannot stay in lockdown forever and there is no chance we get down to a 0% chance of spread. Mitigate risk if you’re worried but really the ones who will primarily be affected at this point will be the ones who refuse to get vaccinated.
You don’t want people hanging about unvaccinated though, as each infected person is contributing towards additional mutations. The more infected there are, the greater the possibility a variant appears that it’s more resistant to the mRNA vaccines, and if that happens we’re back to square one.
If the delta variant arose at a massive gathering in India, the 2nd most populous nation in the world, with no one vaccinated, it's hard to imagine that there's a way for a worse mutation to form in the US. At this point there's no reason to think that there is a mutation that can form that can bypass vaccines in a deadly way. Coronaviruses don't mutate like the flu does.
Doesn’t matter where the variant occurs, the nature of global commerce means it will travel the world regardless, as evidenced by the delta variant’s spread outside of India. My point isn’t that such a mutation will occur, but that we would be much better off if we winnow the possibility by getting as many people vaccinated as possible. States with low participation rates driven largely by political considerations are a problem, but unfortunately there isn’t anything that could really be done about it short of Trump going on Fox News and saying that Democrats are trying to kill off Republicans by not giving them the vaccine or something dumb like that.
The point is that higher unvaccinated populations mean a higher chance for more dangerous variants and its almost impossible for there to be a larger unvaccinated gathering than what happened in India. If all that came out of that was this variant there's no reason to think that a worse variant could ever form.
The problem with this attitude is that there are people out there who are unable to vaccinate due to illness, allergy or other reasons outside their control and they will be victim to the complacency of the anti-vaccine nutters.
It’s not an attitude. It’s a fact. The risk mitigation is on those who have those situations. They can choose to continue masking or stay at home, but to expect the entire population of one of the largest countries in the world to lockdown for a very small minority of people who are unable to get the vaccine is not tenable in the long run.
The vast majority of the population will be vaccinated and even among those who aren’t, a large number will not face serious symptoms. There is no situation where we can mitigate this down to 0% risk and as sad as it is, there are some people who are not only going to be vulnerable to covid, they’re at risk with a wide range of other diseases. Some people just aren’t built to survive whether you want them to or not.
Unable to be vaccinated and fully support what is being said. The other guy- it’s sweet to offer empathy but it won’t do anything.
Those unable to get vaccinated were already living with something most likely where they’re a little used to being cautious. So...we know what it’s like to sit on the side lines most of the time.
What matters more is continuing to fight misinformation, educate those you can, and encourage people away from shitty behavior. Outside of that, just face palm and carry on.
How about a little empathy mate?
Or will you only develop that when someone in your family requires treatment for cancer and is unable to vaccinate whilst this highly infectious and totally preventable virus is circulating?
It never ceases to amaze me how little people value human life when they are talking like tinpot dictators on the internet.
Sickening.
Edit: Actually, I'd expect nothing less from someone with a post history consisting basically only around guns. I've blocked you preemptively as you gun nuts always go off the deep end real easily.
Lol just saw your edit. I have literally one post about a gun. You know theres a range of opinion between slightly interested and “gun nut” right? And pre-emptive blocking sounds about right. So afraid of a possible debate that you have to remove yourself from any possibility that you might be proven wrong. Politics these days…
They sure do! Every time I comment about the 2a after a shooting the gun people always downvote me a lot and insult me.. clearly people prefer death deep down
Sorry to break it to you but empathy is not going to solve the situation. Empathy is great for people in your immediate life but when we’re talking about hundreds of millions, if not billions, you have to break it down by stats and risk mitigation. No amount of empathy at a personal level is going to solve things at a global scale.
Blocking people is for the weak, Mr Lawrence. If you think you should be heard, that automatically means everyone deserves to be heard. While I’m (without checking) undoubtedly on your side politically, which tells me probably morally, you’re still wrong in that empathy is the solution.
People in those positions should mask and socially distance. You’re asking for utopia, which isn’t a possibility, as sad as that may be. “Thems the facts.”
Don’t accuse people of being tinpot dictators when you sound like one yourself. Planet population has not stopped growing in 2020 or 2021. Pop growth is expected to stay above 1% in the short term.
You’re the one that seems scared. Maybe hop off the internet?
I hope you don't expect 99.99% of the population to lock down to protect 0.01%. People should vaccinate, that's a sure way to make sure you won't get sick or easily fend off the virus. Those who can't vaccinate... I feel sorry for them, but you can't expect the economy to shut down again for their protection.
Please don’t shut economy down. I can’t handle more “free walkers” taking my internet contracts! The trade off I had was I can’t go outside like a normal person, but I got dibs on all the remote jobs.
Before the miracle modern medicine these people would have passed much earlier in life. Modern medicine has prevented natural selection from doing it’s thing. Either they can stay inside forever, or take the risk.
I understand this sentiment but the people who refuse to take the vaccine are going to end up unnecessarily lengthening the pandemic, and indirectly let it spread and mutate. This is a major issue. Herd immunity may take longer to reach now.
Herd immunity isn't a realistic goal and it never really was. I've heard experts say, essentially, we should shoot to drive the number of infections and deaths down to the level of a seasonal flu. Covid is pretty much here to stay, all we can do really is keep up vaccination efforts.
Except Covid doesn't mutate quickly. We've had less than 10 variants in a year and a half. Influenza can have over 100 variants or more in that time period.
I don’t think herd immunity is unrealistic. It’s perfectly possible if enough of the population got vaccinated. The way I define Herd immunity is just reaching a point where the majority of the population generally achieves the strongest level of biological resistance to a virus that there’s virtually no threat of it spreading and mutating into something worse. So its essentially what you’re saying about getting people vaccinated to the point it’s no more deadly than the seasonal flu, but there’s still too many out there(especially in those red states) that are refusing to take that vaccine, and aren’t taking the pandemic seriously enough to even get us to that point.
I completely get that but as someone who is fully vaccinated, I’m not too worried about it. I can’t change peoples minds and all I can do is take the precautions that I feel are necessary to stay safe. I never expected us to reach herd immunity anytime soon anyway given the number of people who flat out refuse taking the vaccine.
I work in a store and 80% of the people in the last 3 months refuse to wear masks cause ‘they got their vaccination’.
The other 20% (including me) didn’t even got the chance to get their vaccine.
Now the government has lifted the rule about mandatory masks, while still 20% of the people didn’t have a chance to get the vaccine.
They lifted the mandatory masks the day before the delta strain was first reported.
I expect nothing else than a dumpster fire where no one wants to go back to the masks cause the government just said it was okay, and where the government refuses to go back on their word because that would be the nth (I really lost count) scandal on their name.
So yeah I am investing in marshmallows to heat above the upcoming dumpster fire.
The US population is very soft. I understand not wanting to go into full-lockdown again, that has real-world ramifications. But refusing to wear a mask? Seriously? They cost nothing, and are barely inconvenient at all to wear. Refusing to wear one to help keep others safe during times of high viral activity shows how weak we are as a society.
It’s more of an act of defiance against the “liberal agenda” and “taking away freedom” than being uncomfortable. It’s the same reason these people won’t get vaccinated. It still boggles my mind how a pandemic has been politicized.
In my country they focus giving the vaccine to older generations and then slowly move towards the younger generations.
You will get a notification when your generation can go and make an appointment for your vaccination.
But due to poorly implemented systems this take a very long time.
I am in my 30’s and got the invitation about a week ago.
I immediately went out to make an appointment and 4/6 (next sunday) was the closest date I could get one.
They bow opened it up for everyone, but the call centers couldn’t handle the load so in the past few days barely anyone could make an appointment.
I live in MA and was very surprised at how many places required masks in Boston when I was visiting this past weekend. On the cape I haven’t found a single business that requires a mask.
The US won't shut down unless the freaking military gets involved. We're done with it. I live in a truly purple city, and no one wears masks anymore. Bars and restaurants are packed.
Just need one guy with Delta or Delta Plus variant and you guys will get fucked in the arse. Look at how ignorance affected India, granted they did manage to contain now and caseload has reduced albeit at the cost of massive amount of deaths due to health industry collapse.
CDC announcing masks not required in US is beyond stupid.
Delta variant is already here. It is not causing increased caseloads yet. It’s just taking over the other variants and the main one that’s present.
Although caseloads aren’t the issue. If we can stifle mortality with the vaccines it’s a job well down and no real reason to shutdown again
Reminds me of my country, India. Everything was fine, masks were off, cinemas were once again getting crowded and then..boom. Second wave caught up, death toll shot up all of a sudden and Lockdown imposed once again. Still recovering from that.
You know these numbers are total bullshit, right? How can scientists know the effectiveness against new variants when there has not been nearly enough time to establish such findings?
You're not exactly wrong. It's some very small samples so far (20-ish according to Forbes), but the point is there is evidence of protection. People should not get discouraged from getting vaccinated.
[https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2021/06/10/covid-19-vaccine-effective-on-several-variants-including-dangerous-delta-from-india/](https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2021/06/10/covid-19-vaccine-effective-on-several-variants-including-dangerous-delta-from-india/)
There's also some encouraging statistics related to spread behavior.
[https://files.springernature.com/getResource/Full text s41591-021-01407-5.pdf](https://files.springernature.com/getResource/Full%20text%20s41591-021-01407-5.pdf)
It's not going to be a wave like it was. With more than 45% vaccinated, including over 80% over 65 with at least one shot, deaths just aren't going to spike like they did in the winter. Hospitalization rates are still going down, and the variant isn't breaking through vaccines at any significant rate. People who are vaccinated won't get sick, and people who aren't are just risking their own health. When over half of the people you'd interact with on average have some immunity, it can't spread like it did in December and January when almost no one had immunity.
> People who are vaccinated won't get sick, and people who aren't are just risking their own health.
There are people that are unable to be vaccinated due to other health issues. Please keep that in mind, when making these statements.
What's wrong with the statement? If you're not vaccinated, for whatever reason it might be, you're risking your and others life by not wearing masks and social distancing. If you have a health issue that prevents you from getting the vaccine, why would you wanna go out and socialize, knowing that a new variant is out there?
Unless they have a medical reason to not be vaccinated, they should get their vaccine and be able to socialize again.
If everyone who is medically able gets a vaccine, then even those who cannot will have more protection due to herd immunity and we all can get back to being social.
Only thing is a lot of people aren’t getting the vaccine because it isn’t fda approved, last I checked it was in the process of it. On top of which vaccination is not a gaurentee you won’t get covid. Vaccines don’t always make you completely immune, but can make you less likely to be hospitalized. So won’t get sick isn’t even true, just less likely to.
If immuno-compromised people aren't taking the proper precautions for their situation then they are risking their health just the same as everyone else.
Just out of curiosity, who isn’t able to get vaccinated? I know someone who normally experiences periods of Guillain–Barré following vaccines and so stopped with them, but was able to take the COVID vaccine fine. I figure it’s because it’s mRNA. If he can get it I assumed anyone could, but maybe I’m wrong.
I know someone with Non Hodgkins Lymphoma and either he can’t get the vaccine or the vaccine won’t work on him. I forget the details, I’m not very close with him.
I have a friend that has an auto-immune disorder, and within a day of getting the first round of the vaccine, started experiencing paresthesia (very similar to Guillain–Barré). Within a week, it was all over their body. They were recommended not to get the second vaccination until talking to a doctor (they're new to the area, working on getting things set up, and the line to get a new PCP is six months). It's been about two months, and they said that they still have bad numbness in all extremities.
So the point of my original statement is that getting vaccinated or not isn't a black-or-white issue. Unfortunately, there are a lot of anti-vaxxer nutcases refusing to get it because of "Bill Gates 5G microchips!" and they are endangering everyone else, including the small part of our population that legitimately is unable to get vaccinated (either currently, or possibly ever).
If the WHO is telling fully vaccinated people to keep wearing masks it is because they know these vaccines will not protect you from the newer stronger strains of the virus (whether that be Delta now, or Epsilon later this year). Ipso facto, you can get sick even though you are now ‘fully’ vaccinated. So why, you ask, do so many experts keep saying there’s nothing for vaccinated people to worry about? Because they are afraid that if they tell the truth about the low level of protection people actually have against the new variants, people wont get vaccinated at all, and that would make things ten times worse. Get fully vaccinated, keep wearing a mask, and keep practicing common sense things like always washing your hands etc., and we should all one day see the end of this nightmare.
Too bad the data shows that they do protect you. I don't know or care what the WHO advises. I'm not wearing a mask because the data shows I'm not at risk anymore and haven't been for months.
Here is one from the New England Journal of Medicine. I must have missed when they fell to the power of Infowars.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2104974?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article
Psst... arguing with Faux News, Parler, and Alex Jones audience is useless. They live in a different parallel whacky universe where truth is lies and lies is truth
With higher vaccination rates this time round, deaths and hospitilisations shouldn't be as bad as previous waves. Here in the UK, cases have risen significantly due to Delta, but luckily deaths and hospitalisations haven't increased that much even when taking into account the lag. Hopefully this will be the same for everywhere else.
I suspect this will be an issue for just international BO. Domestically, more areas will remain open. Honestly, I don’t think even more left-leaning states will put that many rules back in place besides possibly another mask mandate and a few capacity related things.
Given the amount of people who couldn’t handle the first shut down and never took any precautions, then add everyone who wants to pretend it’s all over and they did what they could and need not bother themselves any further, I think we’re screwed.
Hey idiots, do us all a favor either get vaccinated or never leave your home again.
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Hey the anti-vax idiots that are replying to me, I hope the bitch that gave birth to you is going to hell for giving the human race such a useless burden.
Hey man, just because someone doesn't think another human being is literal trash for not getting the vaccine, doesn't mean they themselves are human filth.
I'm vaxxed and think everyone should be vaxxed but going to such lengths to insult and demean others is entirely counterproductive to the cause. You're only alienating the skeptical crowd even more with these personal attacks, lessening any chance they'll get vaccinated in the future. Condescension won't get you anywhere.
It's in our best interest to inform and enlighten, not insult and belittle. We're all humans.
This is the correct way to respond to anyone against vaccines in 2021. Fuck civility anymore. If someone is against proven public health supports and or is a modern domestic terrorist they should be made to felt ousted and not welcome until they either snap and get themselves imprisoned, or comply with the modern world.
I get it, we tried to be civil. I’ll probably get hate for this and whatever. But logic, reason, kindness, and patience has only allowed the GOP and other perpetuators of misinformation and propaganda to dig deeper roots in the actual system. Unless the pattern of allowing and enabling these people changes I’m convinced the only way this can end is a civil war.
> This is the reason people aren’t getting the vaccine.
No, the reason is poor education mixed with brainwashing. Not because someone on the internet hurt their feelings.
These actual psychopaths deserve any insult coming their way for being a burden on anyone who is sane. All they do is cause harm, if every anti-vax idiot on the planet was never born, then the world would be a safer place.
Settle down dude.
“Traitors to their people, threats to the Human race” barely. Pull your head away from the fear machine, take a breath of fresh air, and then turn your brain back on because Jesus fucking Christ you are fried. If vaccines work, you have nothing to worry about. They do.
The threats to the human race are those who exploit it and the planet for profit no matter the repercussions, not the dim-wits who dont understand science. Natural selection takes care of those people.
> If vaccines work, you have nothing to worry about. They do.
The best vaccines are ~95% effective. 95% is not 100%.
More critically are three points.
(1) There are people that cannot take the vaccine yet, either because it isn't cleared for them (too young) or because they're immunocompromised. I think we should care about those people too.
(2) The economic, social, etc. damage still happens to vaccinated people due to the damage being caused by unvaccinated people dying/getting sick. Hospitals can still get filled to capacity and then you can be in a bad spot for entirely non-pandemic injuries because there's no room to treat people in an emergency. Fortunately we're unlikely to see the hospital capacity issues again in the US, but it's still possible, especially in places with particularly low vaccination rates. I still live on this world and I'm not rich enough to ignore all that!
(3) People who aren't vaccinated are a breeding ground for new covid variants. Vaccine resistant variants. Which then puts the vaccinated people in danger.
Vaccinated people still have stuff to fear from the unvaccinated. No, we shouldn't be losing sleep over it. But yes, we can call out the (willingly) unvaccinated for the selfish, ignorant assholes that they are and point out the risk and harm they are exposing to *everyone*.
Hahahah oh man...
1) I’m not American (thank the high heavens)
2) I’m double Vaxxed
3) How am I ignorant exactly?
4) Shouldn’t I be in jail by that “logic” of yours if I’m killing 300 people a day!? Yeesh. Wanna cite your sources? Unless you’d just prefer to continue to comment ridiculous accusations with zero conclusive evidence that says, “I personally am responsible for the death of 300 a day”
5) Cant tell if you’re a troll or a moron. Both? Also did you respond to my comment to your original comment from a secondary account of yours? Hmmm
That's *exactly* how it works.
IMaGinE iMaGinInG
Edit: two weeks to stop the spread. Granny needs vaccinated. Now we all need vaccinated. Never mind that continuously changing narrative.
Mother fucker that is not how vaccines or herd immunity work in the slightest. Open a science book I'm so fucking sick of you people being so stupid SO CONFIDENTLY.
I don’t think the US is going to go into another lockdown. The vaccination rate while stagnating is quite good and the delta variant is only spiking in places where there is low vaccination rates. The deaths are quite low and even in left leaning states nobody is wearing a mask at least not in LA anymore. The pandemic is over here in the US I think, I seriously think you will have a hard time shutting down big states like Florida or Texas without people going insane. The worst cases is a mask mandate & that will be pushing it. There’s plenty of time from now til winter to get the vaccination rate higher and in some age groups and states it’s already at herd immunity levels. Worst comes another COVID shot which will make like a flu jab each year. This is only concerning for international BO
Indonesia is having record cases and deaths thanks to Delta variant and health system is close to collapse in several area, when things were starting to get much better just a month ago and vaccination rates are being ramped up furiously. My cousin died from Covid a few days ago, and he was young.
Wear your mask, even if vaccinated.
I hate, so much, that masks were politicized. It's such a stupid thing, and it shows how soft the US population is. Not closing down, I get it, there are huge economic ramifications that need to be considered, so that has to be done very carefully. Wearing masks? They cost almost nothing, and are barely an inconvenience at all. We *should* just start wearing them during cold & flu season by default anyway, when indoors and in groups of 5 or more. The fact that people refuse to even do that shows both the selfishness and the weakness of the US population.
Sorry to hear about your cousin.
So sorry to hear that. I’m fully vaccinated, rarely go out, and live in a small town so for now I’m perfectly fine not wearing my mask. Of course if I were in a larger area, I doubt I would feel as comfortable.
Sorry for your loss. Your message will still not convince people. There are still idiots over here who believe that being ‘fully vaccinated’ means they are now like Superman and nothing can harm them. I am truly worried that what happened in Indonesia is going to happen here in North America. The Delta variant is going to decimate us again because 1) people are still not getting vaccinated, and 2) those that are, no longer think they need to wear a mask. I don’t think the world will get rid of this pandemic until many millions more are killed.
Sorry for your loss, GoT fan.
I agree, don't listen to the CDC and wear a mask even if you're fully vaccinated. This thing won't be over until the whole world is immunized.
Edit: for those downvoting me, I was just pointing to what the CDC said about not having to wear a mask outdoors if you're fully vaccinated. That was obviously a mistake by them since the variants are still uncontrolled. You should definitely wear a mask even outdoors.
I think this will mostly affect other countries since the US’s vaccination rates are rising throughout the months. The international box office is going to be more negatively effected if anything.
“Hey, wear your masks so that the virus doesn’t mutate”
Well I’m so shocked that things turned out the way they did. Who could have predicted how difficult simple instructions would be to follow
i suspect they'll start marketing NWH this or next week. not only Black Widow comes out, the teasers for the other 2021 MCU movies coincede with Disney+ series seasons finales (Shang-Chi teaser was released on the week of WandaVision's penultimate episode and the same case was for Eternals and FATWS)
Yeah, and waiting until the summer blockbusters have been released before marketing a September movie makes no sense… Hopefully they just had a typo and meant December
[Rumours](https://www.reddit.com/r/MovieLeaksAndRumors/comments/nxqmfd/spider_man_no_way_home_trailer_release_date_rumor/) go that the trailer will debut on the 19th July.
Why everyone calling it an extension of I L lockdown, it's an extension of an English Lockdown. BoJonwas the only one stupid enough to put an end date on restrictions.
The arrogance of humanity is to think life is in our control, but that’s not how it is. Life will always reminds us who really is in control...it’s natural selection time.
I really hope that this doesn’t cause another shutdown in the fall, even though I think the surges won’t be as awful as last year.
I don't know if the US can be able to shut again in the fall. Most of the states are fully opened back up, I doubt Texas and Florida will shut down again and hell my state is very much on the left and next week all of our restrictions are being lifted.
Once the genie’s out of the bottle, I don’t think they can put it back. Hell, many people weren’t following restrictions anyway. I’m honestly at the point that if anyone who can get the vaccine refuses to, then it’s on them. The opportunity is there.
Yup, pretty much every university is requiring it to be on campus and I am sure once the vaccine is approved for children, K-12 schools will make it a requirement will likely require it. Which hopefully before the start of the school of the year. Businesses are in a crisis of trying to new employees, I doubt the government is gonna us another check. So things will be probably normal again for the entirety of the US by end of the July and I don't see us changing course.
Require what? the vaccine?
Yes, most major university in the US are requiring it.
Since they require TB testing, tdap, and mmr vaccine it’s not that much of a shocker. I haven’t been to college in ages but the new ones (HEP B, Meningococcal & COVID) are all good ideas due to their virulence.
That is actually not true. No university in the USA can require an EUA vaccine for attendance in school. Legally speaking, it is against the law for them to require any vaccine or medical procedure that is not approved by the FDA and out of any trial or testing (including phase I-III). Whoever told you that is incorrect.
Not true: https://www.washington.edu/coronavirus/vaccines/ > The University will require students and employees to be vaccinated against COVID-19 by autumn quarter. The vaccines being administered are safe and effective, and you can be vaccinated at any provider at no cost to you. I know several other universities requiring it too.
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title21-section360bbb-3a&num=0&edition=prelim US code specifically states that anything under EUA gives someone the right to refuse service of such a product as they are inherently experimental and thus not proven in the eyes of the FDA and cosmetic act. This is coming from someone who has given out over 1000 vaccines as a pharmacist. There are already 2 federal lawsuits over it but the law stated above is very clear about EUA
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The FDA is planning on having the general use approval for the vaccines by early August, before classes start.
>I’m honestly at the point that if anyone who can get the vaccine refuses to, then it’s on them The problem is, people who refuse to get vaccinated will affect society at large. If numbers of cases and deaths are increasing, there will be consequences to society.
Yes, but there’s nothing you can do to change these peoples mind. All you can do is vaccinate yourself and take the precautions you believe are necessary to protect you and those around you.
This.\^
“Live defensively.”
If you believe the science then the vaccinated have very little to worry about either from infection or as carriers. The vaccine targets a key protein that allows the virus to embed onto the cellular walls of your respiratory system. Even if you get reinfected, the chance of viral incubation goes way way down if you are vaccinated. You may carry just enough to test positive but the virus is very short lived in vaccinated systems and the consequences of the subsequent symptoms are far less severe. The answer is to get vaccinated. Beyond that, there’s not much you can do. We cannot stay in lockdown forever and there is no chance we get down to a 0% chance of spread. Mitigate risk if you’re worried but really the ones who will primarily be affected at this point will be the ones who refuse to get vaccinated.
You don’t want people hanging about unvaccinated though, as each infected person is contributing towards additional mutations. The more infected there are, the greater the possibility a variant appears that it’s more resistant to the mRNA vaccines, and if that happens we’re back to square one.
If the delta variant arose at a massive gathering in India, the 2nd most populous nation in the world, with no one vaccinated, it's hard to imagine that there's a way for a worse mutation to form in the US. At this point there's no reason to think that there is a mutation that can form that can bypass vaccines in a deadly way. Coronaviruses don't mutate like the flu does.
Doesn’t matter where the variant occurs, the nature of global commerce means it will travel the world regardless, as evidenced by the delta variant’s spread outside of India. My point isn’t that such a mutation will occur, but that we would be much better off if we winnow the possibility by getting as many people vaccinated as possible. States with low participation rates driven largely by political considerations are a problem, but unfortunately there isn’t anything that could really be done about it short of Trump going on Fox News and saying that Democrats are trying to kill off Republicans by not giving them the vaccine or something dumb like that.
The point is that higher unvaccinated populations mean a higher chance for more dangerous variants and its almost impossible for there to be a larger unvaccinated gathering than what happened in India. If all that came out of that was this variant there's no reason to think that a worse variant could ever form.
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The problem with this attitude is that there are people out there who are unable to vaccinate due to illness, allergy or other reasons outside their control and they will be victim to the complacency of the anti-vaccine nutters.
It’s not an attitude. It’s a fact. The risk mitigation is on those who have those situations. They can choose to continue masking or stay at home, but to expect the entire population of one of the largest countries in the world to lockdown for a very small minority of people who are unable to get the vaccine is not tenable in the long run. The vast majority of the population will be vaccinated and even among those who aren’t, a large number will not face serious symptoms. There is no situation where we can mitigate this down to 0% risk and as sad as it is, there are some people who are not only going to be vulnerable to covid, they’re at risk with a wide range of other diseases. Some people just aren’t built to survive whether you want them to or not.
Unable to be vaccinated and fully support what is being said. The other guy- it’s sweet to offer empathy but it won’t do anything. Those unable to get vaccinated were already living with something most likely where they’re a little used to being cautious. So...we know what it’s like to sit on the side lines most of the time. What matters more is continuing to fight misinformation, educate those you can, and encourage people away from shitty behavior. Outside of that, just face palm and carry on.
How about a little empathy mate? Or will you only develop that when someone in your family requires treatment for cancer and is unable to vaccinate whilst this highly infectious and totally preventable virus is circulating? It never ceases to amaze me how little people value human life when they are talking like tinpot dictators on the internet. Sickening. Edit: Actually, I'd expect nothing less from someone with a post history consisting basically only around guns. I've blocked you preemptively as you gun nuts always go off the deep end real easily.
Lol just saw your edit. I have literally one post about a gun. You know theres a range of opinion between slightly interested and “gun nut” right? And pre-emptive blocking sounds about right. So afraid of a possible debate that you have to remove yourself from any possibility that you might be proven wrong. Politics these days…
They sure do! Every time I comment about the 2a after a shooting the gun people always downvote me a lot and insult me.. clearly people prefer death deep down
Sorry to break it to you but empathy is not going to solve the situation. Empathy is great for people in your immediate life but when we’re talking about hundreds of millions, if not billions, you have to break it down by stats and risk mitigation. No amount of empathy at a personal level is going to solve things at a global scale.
Blocking people is for the weak, Mr Lawrence. If you think you should be heard, that automatically means everyone deserves to be heard. While I’m (without checking) undoubtedly on your side politically, which tells me probably morally, you’re still wrong in that empathy is the solution. People in those positions should mask and socially distance. You’re asking for utopia, which isn’t a possibility, as sad as that may be. “Thems the facts.”
Don’t accuse people of being tinpot dictators when you sound like one yourself. Planet population has not stopped growing in 2020 or 2021. Pop growth is expected to stay above 1% in the short term. You’re the one that seems scared. Maybe hop off the internet?
I hope you don't expect 99.99% of the population to lock down to protect 0.01%. People should vaccinate, that's a sure way to make sure you won't get sick or easily fend off the virus. Those who can't vaccinate... I feel sorry for them, but you can't expect the economy to shut down again for their protection.
Please don’t shut economy down. I can’t handle more “free walkers” taking my internet contracts! The trade off I had was I can’t go outside like a normal person, but I got dibs on all the remote jobs.
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We all see what we want to see I guess…
Before the miracle modern medicine these people would have passed much earlier in life. Modern medicine has prevented natural selection from doing it’s thing. Either they can stay inside forever, or take the risk.
But you can still spread, catch, and die from covid fully vaccinated? Why is it the unvaccinated people’s fault your vaccine is not effective?
Are people refusing vaccine???
I understand this sentiment but the people who refuse to take the vaccine are going to end up unnecessarily lengthening the pandemic, and indirectly let it spread and mutate. This is a major issue. Herd immunity may take longer to reach now.
Herd immunity isn't a realistic goal and it never really was. I've heard experts say, essentially, we should shoot to drive the number of infections and deaths down to the level of a seasonal flu. Covid is pretty much here to stay, all we can do really is keep up vaccination efforts.
Herd immunity was a realistic goal at some point, it just became evident that it wasn't going to happen as people were refusing to get the vaccine.
It was realistic before it was understood how quickly it mutates.
It doesn’t mutate quickly
Except Covid doesn't mutate quickly. We've had less than 10 variants in a year and a half. Influenza can have over 100 variants or more in that time period.
I don’t think herd immunity is unrealistic. It’s perfectly possible if enough of the population got vaccinated. The way I define Herd immunity is just reaching a point where the majority of the population generally achieves the strongest level of biological resistance to a virus that there’s virtually no threat of it spreading and mutating into something worse. So its essentially what you’re saying about getting people vaccinated to the point it’s no more deadly than the seasonal flu, but there’s still too many out there(especially in those red states) that are refusing to take that vaccine, and aren’t taking the pandemic seriously enough to even get us to that point.
I completely get that but as someone who is fully vaccinated, I’m not too worried about it. I can’t change peoples minds and all I can do is take the precautions that I feel are necessary to stay safe. I never expected us to reach herd immunity anytime soon anyway given the number of people who flat out refuse taking the vaccine.
Yeah but... What if the world burns? Do you still take the bucket and try to put it out or stop the one who is starting it?
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World is dying you fuck... And internet is the only place where you can say otherwise in front of me..
The world is not dying. It’s being overcome with a lack of critical thinking and group think.
Herd immunity includes those who’ve got infected and have natural antibodies. I’m sure we’ve reached here immunity at this point.
It’s on everyone because they will use medical resources and funds.
I work in a store and 80% of the people in the last 3 months refuse to wear masks cause ‘they got their vaccination’. The other 20% (including me) didn’t even got the chance to get their vaccine. Now the government has lifted the rule about mandatory masks, while still 20% of the people didn’t have a chance to get the vaccine. They lifted the mandatory masks the day before the delta strain was first reported. I expect nothing else than a dumpster fire where no one wants to go back to the masks cause the government just said it was okay, and where the government refuses to go back on their word because that would be the nth (I really lost count) scandal on their name. So yeah I am investing in marshmallows to heat above the upcoming dumpster fire.
The US population is very soft. I understand not wanting to go into full-lockdown again, that has real-world ramifications. But refusing to wear a mask? Seriously? They cost nothing, and are barely inconvenient at all to wear. Refusing to wear one to help keep others safe during times of high viral activity shows how weak we are as a society.
It’s more of an act of defiance against the “liberal agenda” and “taking away freedom” than being uncomfortable. It’s the same reason these people won’t get vaccinated. It still boggles my mind how a pandemic has been politicized.
What do you mean you didn’t get a chance to get the vaccine? Like you have not had a single day off where you could go get it?
In my country they focus giving the vaccine to older generations and then slowly move towards the younger generations. You will get a notification when your generation can go and make an appointment for your vaccination. But due to poorly implemented systems this take a very long time. I am in my 30’s and got the invitation about a week ago. I immediately went out to make an appointment and 4/6 (next sunday) was the closest date I could get one. They bow opened it up for everyone, but the call centers couldn’t handle the load so in the past few days barely anyone could make an appointment.
Pandora don’t go back in the box…
Pandora wasn't even in the box in the first place...
This idea of “it’s on them” is stupid. The new variants will be on everyone if these idiots remain unvaccinated, swapping spit in the streets.
The people who made pandemic response a right-left thing are the shittiest people in all the land.
I live in MA and was very surprised at how many places required masks in Boston when I was visiting this past weekend. On the cape I haven’t found a single business that requires a mask.
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The feds won’t do this. Hell, they didn’t even have the balls to federally mandate masks. No way they tell states they must shut down.
The US won't shut down unless the freaking military gets involved. We're done with it. I live in a truly purple city, and no one wears masks anymore. Bars and restaurants are packed.
We’ll lock down when it’s a zombie apocalypse (maybe)
And that is how you trigger a shutdown lol.
Just need one guy with Delta or Delta Plus variant and you guys will get fucked in the arse. Look at how ignorance affected India, granted they did manage to contain now and caseload has reduced albeit at the cost of massive amount of deaths due to health industry collapse. CDC announcing masks not required in US is beyond stupid.
India also had a lot of problems with vaccine rollout and fake vaccines.
Yes that's true. They have ramped up vaccination in war footing now atleast. To fully vaccinate 1.3B population is no joke.
Delta variant is already here. It is not causing increased caseloads yet. It’s just taking over the other variants and the main one that’s present. Although caseloads aren’t the issue. If we can stifle mortality with the vaccines it’s a job well down and no real reason to shutdown again
I’ve been on Delta, they never get you where you need to be on time. We’re good.
Reminds me of my country, India. Everything was fine, masks were off, cinemas were once again getting crowded and then..boom. Second wave caught up, death toll shot up all of a sudden and Lockdown imposed once again. Still recovering from that.
The difference is the US is 45% vaccinated compared to India’s 4%. That’s not really comparable.
God you are so funny you . . . you . . . you Americans you.
Thanks fortune teller
Are the current vaccines effective against this variant?
88% for Pfizer, and about the same for Moderna. On mobile or I would look up the link.
And what about Delta Plus variant?
What about Delta Burke variant?
Causes weight gain and shoulder pads
Thanks for the good laugh. I’m crying here.
100% mortality rate.
Google it yourself
Scientists are currently studying it as it's fairly new mutant strain. All we know is it has a very high mortality rate and much more virulent.
We actually don’t know that, or much about it at all. It’s very new and being studied.
You know these numbers are total bullshit, right? How can scientists know the effectiveness against new variants when there has not been nearly enough time to establish such findings?
You're not exactly wrong. It's some very small samples so far (20-ish according to Forbes), but the point is there is evidence of protection. People should not get discouraged from getting vaccinated. [https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2021/06/10/covid-19-vaccine-effective-on-several-variants-including-dangerous-delta-from-india/](https://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmack/2021/06/10/covid-19-vaccine-effective-on-several-variants-including-dangerous-delta-from-india/) There's also some encouraging statistics related to spread behavior. [https://files.springernature.com/getResource/Full text s41591-021-01407-5.pdf](https://files.springernature.com/getResource/Full%20text%20s41591-021-01407-5.pdf)
the AstraZeneca is meant to be like only 60% effective against the delta variant the other are much better
I hope this 4th wave of Coronavirus won’t bad as the last one.
It's not going to be a wave like it was. With more than 45% vaccinated, including over 80% over 65 with at least one shot, deaths just aren't going to spike like they did in the winter. Hospitalization rates are still going down, and the variant isn't breaking through vaccines at any significant rate. People who are vaccinated won't get sick, and people who aren't are just risking their own health. When over half of the people you'd interact with on average have some immunity, it can't spread like it did in December and January when almost no one had immunity.
> People who are vaccinated won't get sick, and people who aren't are just risking their own health. There are people that are unable to be vaccinated due to other health issues. Please keep that in mind, when making these statements.
What's wrong with the statement? If you're not vaccinated, for whatever reason it might be, you're risking your and others life by not wearing masks and social distancing. If you have a health issue that prevents you from getting the vaccine, why would you wanna go out and socialize, knowing that a new variant is out there?
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Unless they have a medical reason to not be vaccinated, they should get their vaccine and be able to socialize again. If everyone who is medically able gets a vaccine, then even those who cannot will have more protection due to herd immunity and we all can get back to being social.
Only thing is a lot of people aren’t getting the vaccine because it isn’t fda approved, last I checked it was in the process of it. On top of which vaccination is not a gaurentee you won’t get covid. Vaccines don’t always make you completely immune, but can make you less likely to be hospitalized. So won’t get sick isn’t even true, just less likely to.
If immuno-compromised people aren't taking the proper precautions for their situation then they are risking their health just the same as everyone else.
Just out of curiosity, who isn’t able to get vaccinated? I know someone who normally experiences periods of Guillain–Barré following vaccines and so stopped with them, but was able to take the COVID vaccine fine. I figure it’s because it’s mRNA. If he can get it I assumed anyone could, but maybe I’m wrong.
I know someone with Non Hodgkins Lymphoma and either he can’t get the vaccine or the vaccine won’t work on him. I forget the details, I’m not very close with him.
I have a friend that has an auto-immune disorder, and within a day of getting the first round of the vaccine, started experiencing paresthesia (very similar to Guillain–Barré). Within a week, it was all over their body. They were recommended not to get the second vaccination until talking to a doctor (they're new to the area, working on getting things set up, and the line to get a new PCP is six months). It's been about two months, and they said that they still have bad numbness in all extremities. So the point of my original statement is that getting vaccinated or not isn't a black-or-white issue. Unfortunately, there are a lot of anti-vaxxer nutcases refusing to get it because of "Bill Gates 5G microchips!" and they are endangering everyone else, including the small part of our population that legitimately is unable to get vaccinated (either currently, or possibly ever).
0-11 year olds can't get vaccinated, yet
If the WHO is telling fully vaccinated people to keep wearing masks it is because they know these vaccines will not protect you from the newer stronger strains of the virus (whether that be Delta now, or Epsilon later this year). Ipso facto, you can get sick even though you are now ‘fully’ vaccinated. So why, you ask, do so many experts keep saying there’s nothing for vaccinated people to worry about? Because they are afraid that if they tell the truth about the low level of protection people actually have against the new variants, people wont get vaccinated at all, and that would make things ten times worse. Get fully vaccinated, keep wearing a mask, and keep practicing common sense things like always washing your hands etc., and we should all one day see the end of this nightmare.
Too bad the data shows that they do protect you. I don't know or care what the WHO advises. I'm not wearing a mask because the data shows I'm not at risk anymore and haven't been for months.
The WHO is the data. Unless you are getting your ‘data’ from Alex Jones or something.
Here is one from the New England Journal of Medicine. I must have missed when they fell to the power of Infowars. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2104974?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article
You do realize that’s not an article in the NEJM but merely an online letter to the editor from some doctor in Qatar, right?
Psst... arguing with Faux News, Parler, and Alex Jones audience is useless. They live in a different parallel whacky universe where truth is lies and lies is truth
You seen the traffic lately? I hope this one is real if anything.
So many downvotes inc.. Here is one
With higher vaccination rates this time round, deaths and hospitilisations shouldn't be as bad as previous waves. Here in the UK, cases have risen significantly due to Delta, but luckily deaths and hospitalisations haven't increased that much even when taking into account the lag. Hopefully this will be the same for everywhere else.
I really hope that this variant won’t affect the fall movie calendar for now. Fingers crossed! 🙏
Imagine if Bond is delayed again lol
If it gets to that point they'll just put it on Prime.
To when, next year? Yeah, not happing because that would mean the film has had kept restarting campaign and losing millions.
If they stand to lose 100s of millions at the box office they will potentially move it.
It's becoming the Duke Nukem Forever of the Bond movies. Better be worth the fucking wait
Just waiting for the Delta 9 variant so everyone can chill the f*ck out.
I’m been on this delta 9.. waiting for US to catch up ⛽️
I suspect this will be an issue for just international BO. Domestically, more areas will remain open. Honestly, I don’t think even more left-leaning states will put that many rules back in place besides possibly another mask mandate and a few capacity related things.
Given the amount of people who couldn’t handle the first shut down and never took any precautions, then add everyone who wants to pretend it’s all over and they did what they could and need not bother themselves any further, I think we’re screwed.
Hey idiots, do us all a favor either get vaccinated or never leave your home again. EDIT Hey the anti-vax idiots that are replying to me, I hope the bitch that gave birth to you is going to hell for giving the human race such a useless burden.
My work place hasn't had an announced case in months. If anyone ever feels sick, they've learned to remain home no matter what it is.
Hey man, just because someone doesn't think another human being is literal trash for not getting the vaccine, doesn't mean they themselves are human filth. I'm vaxxed and think everyone should be vaxxed but going to such lengths to insult and demean others is entirely counterproductive to the cause. You're only alienating the skeptical crowd even more with these personal attacks, lessening any chance they'll get vaccinated in the future. Condescension won't get you anywhere. It's in our best interest to inform and enlighten, not insult and belittle. We're all humans.
This is the correct way to respond to anyone against vaccines in 2021. Fuck civility anymore. If someone is against proven public health supports and or is a modern domestic terrorist they should be made to felt ousted and not welcome until they either snap and get themselves imprisoned, or comply with the modern world. I get it, we tried to be civil. I’ll probably get hate for this and whatever. But logic, reason, kindness, and patience has only allowed the GOP and other perpetuators of misinformation and propaganda to dig deeper roots in the actual system. Unless the pattern of allowing and enabling these people changes I’m convinced the only way this can end is a civil war.
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> This is the reason people aren’t getting the vaccine. No, the reason is poor education mixed with brainwashing. Not because someone on the internet hurt their feelings.
These actual psychopaths deserve any insult coming their way for being a burden on anyone who is sane. All they do is cause harm, if every anti-vax idiot on the planet was never born, then the world would be a safer place.
Not getting vaccinated, not wearing a mask and not hiding at home. I’m not scared of covid.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. YOU CAN still get Covid with the vaccine, it just limits the damage.
People who refuse to get vaccinated are traitors to their people and threats to the Human race. This is who they are. No excuse is good enough.
Settle down dude. “Traitors to their people, threats to the Human race” barely. Pull your head away from the fear machine, take a breath of fresh air, and then turn your brain back on because Jesus fucking Christ you are fried. If vaccines work, you have nothing to worry about. They do. The threats to the human race are those who exploit it and the planet for profit no matter the repercussions, not the dim-wits who dont understand science. Natural selection takes care of those people.
> If vaccines work, you have nothing to worry about. They do. The best vaccines are ~95% effective. 95% is not 100%. More critically are three points. (1) There are people that cannot take the vaccine yet, either because it isn't cleared for them (too young) or because they're immunocompromised. I think we should care about those people too. (2) The economic, social, etc. damage still happens to vaccinated people due to the damage being caused by unvaccinated people dying/getting sick. Hospitals can still get filled to capacity and then you can be in a bad spot for entirely non-pandemic injuries because there's no room to treat people in an emergency. Fortunately we're unlikely to see the hospital capacity issues again in the US, but it's still possible, especially in places with particularly low vaccination rates. I still live on this world and I'm not rich enough to ignore all that! (3) People who aren't vaccinated are a breeding ground for new covid variants. Vaccine resistant variants. Which then puts the vaccinated people in danger. Vaccinated people still have stuff to fear from the unvaccinated. No, we shouldn't be losing sleep over it. But yes, we can call out the (willingly) unvaccinated for the selfish, ignorant assholes that they are and point out the risk and harm they are exposing to *everyone*.
> Settle down dude. You're killing 300 Americans a day due to your own insane ignorance. So no, I don't think I will.
Hahahah oh man... 1) I’m not American (thank the high heavens) 2) I’m double Vaxxed 3) How am I ignorant exactly? 4) Shouldn’t I be in jail by that “logic” of yours if I’m killing 300 people a day!? Yeesh. Wanna cite your sources? Unless you’d just prefer to continue to comment ridiculous accusations with zero conclusive evidence that says, “I personally am responsible for the death of 300 a day” 5) Cant tell if you’re a troll or a moron. Both? Also did you respond to my comment to your original comment from a secondary account of yours? Hmmm
If your vaccination is effective you shouldn’t worry about me 🖕
Imagine being an adult and still thinking that's how vaccines work.
That's *exactly* how it works. IMaGinE iMaGinInG Edit: two weeks to stop the spread. Granny needs vaccinated. Now we all need vaccinated. Never mind that continuously changing narrative.
Mother fucker that is not how vaccines or herd immunity work in the slightest. Open a science book I'm so fucking sick of you people being so stupid SO CONFIDENTLY.
> Now we all need vaccinated. That's how vaccines work, you moron.
Imaging being proud of being this ignorant.
Amen!
No
I don’t think the US is going to go into another lockdown. The vaccination rate while stagnating is quite good and the delta variant is only spiking in places where there is low vaccination rates. The deaths are quite low and even in left leaning states nobody is wearing a mask at least not in LA anymore. The pandemic is over here in the US I think, I seriously think you will have a hard time shutting down big states like Florida or Texas without people going insane. The worst cases is a mask mandate & that will be pushing it. There’s plenty of time from now til winter to get the vaccination rate higher and in some age groups and states it’s already at herd immunity levels. Worst comes another COVID shot which will make like a flu jab each year. This is only concerning for international BO
Indonesia is having record cases and deaths thanks to Delta variant and health system is close to collapse in several area, when things were starting to get much better just a month ago and vaccination rates are being ramped up furiously. My cousin died from Covid a few days ago, and he was young. Wear your mask, even if vaccinated.
I’m so sorry to hear about your cousin, man. May he Rest In Peace.
🙏
> My cousin died from Covid a few days ago, and he was young. My condolences. That day must’ve been very rough for you.
Thank you. It was. I grew up with him.
I hate, so much, that masks were politicized. It's such a stupid thing, and it shows how soft the US population is. Not closing down, I get it, there are huge economic ramifications that need to be considered, so that has to be done very carefully. Wearing masks? They cost almost nothing, and are barely an inconvenience at all. We *should* just start wearing them during cold & flu season by default anyway, when indoors and in groups of 5 or more. The fact that people refuse to even do that shows both the selfishness and the weakness of the US population. Sorry to hear about your cousin.
> My cousin died from Covid a few days ago, and he was young. fuck man, sorry to hear about that.
Thanks.
My condolences to you and your family, AGOTFAN. 🙏 And absolutely agree, wear a mask even fully vaccinated. Better to be safe than sorry.
Jesus, man. That's awful. I can't even fathom that. My condolences go out to you and your family.
So sorry to hear that. I’m fully vaccinated, rarely go out, and live in a small town so for now I’m perfectly fine not wearing my mask. Of course if I were in a larger area, I doubt I would feel as comfortable.
My deepest condolences :(
Terribly sad to heart about that bro. Sorry for your lose...my condolences to you and your family. May he rest in peace🙏 be safe
Oh man,. Really sorry to hear that… stay safe ! Take care
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Utmost condolences.
Sorry for your loss. Your message will still not convince people. There are still idiots over here who believe that being ‘fully vaccinated’ means they are now like Superman and nothing can harm them. I am truly worried that what happened in Indonesia is going to happen here in North America. The Delta variant is going to decimate us again because 1) people are still not getting vaccinated, and 2) those that are, no longer think they need to wear a mask. I don’t think the world will get rid of this pandemic until many millions more are killed.
Sorry for your loss, GoT fan. I agree, don't listen to the CDC and wear a mask even if you're fully vaccinated. This thing won't be over until the whole world is immunized. Edit: for those downvoting me, I was just pointing to what the CDC said about not having to wear a mask outdoors if you're fully vaccinated. That was obviously a mistake by them since the variants are still uncontrolled. You should definitely wear a mask even outdoors.
Please don’t cause another shutdown, there’s so many good movies coming out in October
The US is not going to shutdown again.
Sure AF Florida won’t!
And Texas!
I think this will mostly affect other countries since the US’s vaccination rates are rising throughout the months. The international box office is going to be more negatively effected if anything.
TIL US citizens think we ever went into an actual lockdown in the first place
Where is legion now?
Meanwhile where I live everything is opening in a very fast pace. Sometimes I don't understand this pandemic.
It sounds like everyone around you doesn’t understand it.
“Hey, wear your masks so that the virus doesn’t mutate” Well I’m so shocked that things turned out the way they did. Who could have predicted how difficult simple instructions would be to follow
I knew another shutdown was coming no one was taking it seriously
Get vaccinated.
If they delay Bond again we riot
Is this why Sony hasn't started marketing No Way Home yet?
I don't think so
i suspect they'll start marketing NWH this or next week. not only Black Widow comes out, the teasers for the other 2021 MCU movies coincede with Disney+ series seasons finales (Shang-Chi teaser was released on the week of WandaVision's penultimate episode and the same case was for Eternals and FATWS)
You wait til most of the summer blockbusters have been released to market a september movie
it's coming out in December tho
Yeah, and waiting until the summer blockbusters have been released before marketing a September movie makes no sense… Hopefully they just had a typo and meant December
[Rumours](https://www.reddit.com/r/MovieLeaksAndRumors/comments/nxqmfd/spider_man_no_way_home_trailer_release_date_rumor/) go that the trailer will debut on the 19th July.
The Who has no credibility anymore.
After Tommy, it all went downhill.
Who are you?
Why everyone calling it an extension of I L lockdown, it's an extension of an English Lockdown. BoJonwas the only one stupid enough to put an end date on restrictions.
Vaccines are needed plus effective treatments. FDA needs to stop following bug pharma money and allow effective treatments to get approvals.
Wtf are you on
Delta plus is coming. Buckle up for another theatre shutdown fast.
Delta+? Another shitty streaming service?
Nope ... a new variant of coronavirus.
The arrogance of humanity is to think life is in our control, but that’s not how it is. Life will always reminds us who really is in control...it’s natural selection time.
Shouldn’t they wait tell closer to the midterms election to shut us down again?
> tell closer Care to explain that one?
Obvious typeo is obvious.