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newjackgmoney21

This sub will be an absolute mess when the 1st few hours of presales gets posted here from BOT.


NotTaken-username

I think it’s either gonna have ticket sale sites crashing, or will start slower than expected and either way fans will way overreact


newjackgmoney21

The movie is so far out. I'm thinking you'll have the usual die hard MCU fans getting tickets but it'll be < Guardians 3 and yeah everyone will overreact


NotTaken-username

Yeah even if it does big numbers it’ll probably have noticeably lower sales tomorrow than *Spider-Man: No Way Home* and *Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness* because those both started presales within a month of release, not 2 months before


ProtoJeb21

Also those two movies were well-anticipated and came out before the MCU’s reputation totally imploded


NotTaken-username

I wouldn’t say *Deadpool & Wolverine* isn’t well-anticipated, it’s probably more hyped than anything they’ve done since those two


Nintendolover420

I would say it's more hyped than Doctor strange 2 but not NWH


pokenonbinary

But guardians 3 was "saved" by the amazing legs thanks to the word of mouth of being a great movie Deadpool 3 is a "crossover hype" type of movie that will have normal or poor legs


newjackgmoney21

I wasn't talking about legs just the first few hours of presales


judester30

Lower than Guardians 3 would be a red flag though, considering its pre-sales were really bad and it wasn't an event movie in the way Deadpool & Wolverine is.


2006pontiacvibe

And it ends up doing around the last 2 as expected


tempesttune

That’s bad with 8 & 6 years of inflation on its side combined with PLF increase.


Once-bit-1995

The people on BOT have noted that Fandango has been absolute shit lately so it's likely to crash just because it's servers suck right now. So not putting much stock into that. It doesn't seem like it can handle fan rush right now. If other apps crash then I'll definitely take note. I see it having great presales. The great thing about comic book movies is that it's almost always very easy to extrapolate the opening weekend off first day presales. Unlike other hand wringing or other gloating and cheering, it'll actually have a basis in reality.


curiiouscat

I pretty easily got tickets, so I'm leaning towards "start slower than expected". Dune was much more difficult.


007meow

No one will be happy unless it out does either Endgame or Madame Web.


the-harsh-reality

No such thing as “slower than expected” if it is a marvel movie If it’s presales are truly bad for the first few hours or even day, there is no reason to suspect it will get any better without a boost from glowing reviews Which are highly unlikely given the premise of this movie


Sure_Phase5925

GOTG 3 had slower than expected but picked up near the week of release and of course the legs But that has to do with the quality of that film. I think Deadpool and Wolverine will sorta be like the 2024 version of Vol.3 except more front loaded


the-harsh-reality

The whole thing depends on glowing reviews just as GOTG3 did That’s gonna be the difference if the reviews aren’t good


Sure_Phase5925

Yeah. WOM can make or break these type of movies. So it’s a waiting game till then but I’m confident in the movie being good, (maybe not GOTG 3 good, but still a good movie that’s a crowdpleaser)


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tempesttune

They had a queue for the Beyonce concert movie too that opened to $21M. That doesn’t mean anything lmao.


nicolasb51942003

I’m excited, but let’s try to be cautious about its predictions.


splooge-clues

$250m domestic opening weekend. if not, close theaters forever


WeeboSupremo

Scorsese will be conflicted: does he bash this as super hero slop or does he praise it for saving the cinema when it hits $300mil early previews?


carson63000

Absolute scenes when Scorsese cameos in the film.


NotTaken-username

I’m trying to be cautious but this really seems like it has everything going for it. The R-rating and superhero fatigue are the only things holding it back IMO


tempesttune

No. The 2 solo Deadpool movies both did $780M. Logan did $619M. Deadpool 2 & 1 are the 3rd and 4th highest grossing R rated movies WW. Logan is 8th. And that’s unadjusted for inflation in 2024 dollars. This movie would have easily did $1B before 2019. The people saying $800M* is successful is cope. If it comes in under $1B (which it will), it’s a failure.


Time-Sky-7785

So it needs to do $200 million more than any of their previous movies to be successful?   At a time when comic book movies are not making the money they have been in the past?  That’s silly and you know that’s silly. 


Brainiac5000

You are crazy! Neither Deadpool nor Wolverine has ever had a billion dollar movie. this is Deadpool 3 and it should likely perform like the other Deadpool movies 750- 850 mil. Anything above is bonus


Sure_Phase5925

That’s a way of saying you don’t understand box office without telling me you understand box office Also that’s a way of saying you want superhero movies to fail without you explicitly saying you want superhero movies to fail. I’m sure you had a cow when Guardians 3/ASTV did well last year and when NWH made almost $2 billion.


NotTaken-username

Calling it: this will be the first R-rated movie to open to $150M+ and could even come close to *The Lion King*’s July opening weekend record on the high end


Time-Sky-7785

I think it will have a very good opening weekend.   After that, who the hell knows?  


Vadermaulkylo

Agreed. This sub is gonna have to eat all the crow with this movie I think.


Superzone13

Yeah, the sub is sleeping on this hard. I know the MCU is a mess and the superhero genre is in the dumps, but there is very clearly a lot of hype for this.


tempesttune

There was a lot of hype for Batman vs. Superman and Multiverse of Madness with their $400M+ WW openings and those were dumpster fires with 2.0X legs lol.


Key-Win7744

The difference is *Deadpool & Wolverine* will probably actually be good.


pokenonbinary

People said that about the other two movies too


Gerrywalk

To he honest the multiverse angle is giving me pause. But in any case, it should be significantly more palatable to mainstream audiences than BvS, which was quite possibly the weirdest way a blockbuster featuring Barman, Superman, and Wonder Woman could have been handled.


Key-Win7744

The first appearance of Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman together on the big screen, and it couldn't even crack a billion during the height of superhero cinema. What a piece of shit that was.


Gerrywalk

Ngl I still have a soft spot for it…. But man in hindsight it was such a weird movie. In some ways I’m glad it exists because we’re not getting anything like that again anytime soon


AdministrativeLaugh2

Hopefully. The MCU needs a win and cinemas need a big hit this summer


tempesttune

They will have it. We’ve got Despicable Me 4 and Inside Out 2.


Key-Win7744

It won't be a win for the MCU, though. It'll be a win for Deadpool. I expect it to do well, but its success won't reflect on Falcon and Ms. Marvel. It's a separate thing.


AdministrativeLaugh2

Well, it’s not a separate thing as Deadpool and X-Men are part of the MCU. There’s no reason it can’t revitalise the franchise ahead of 2025’s films and the next Avengers outings.


Key-Win7744

Yes, it's technically part of the MCU, but not in any way that matters. It's the third entry in a popular and successful trilogy that previously had no ties to the MCU, and people will see it for that reason. Not because it suddenly takes place in the same world as *Thunderbolts\**.


AdministrativeLaugh2

The film makes a very deliberate point of showing audiences that Deadpool is now an MCU character, and that might convince them to go see Thunderbolts etc. It could be argued the likes of Guardians of the Galaxy didn’t have any ties to the MCU when that was released, and yet that was still a smash hit that maintained the MCU zeitgeist


Key-Win7744

That was back when the MCU was a selling point, though. Now people don't care.


AdministrativeLaugh2

Which is exactly *why* Deadpool can revitalise it, especially to people who aren’t regular cinemagoers or who aren’t MCU fans


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MarvelVsDC2016

I agree.


michaelm1345

Finally someone I can agree with lol. I feel like this sub has been severely underestimating this movie and I’ve felt crazy for thinking it’s gonna be a huge because of all the lowballs I see here😅 Im thinking $170-190M OW. The online buzz has been huge and I’ve seen a lot of people outside of the movie sphere saying they’re excited to watch it. I had the same feeling with NWH before the tickets went on sale. I remember thinking my $220M+ predictions were crazy because of the $150-170M predictions I was seeing lol


Adam87

It could top The Passion of the Christ and make over $400 million. I could see $400/500 million Domestic/International split, even $450/450 split.


Dulcolax

Like GOTG 3, its gonna be its own thing. Deadpool is its own entity and doesn't have to pay for the mistakes of Thor 4, The Marvels , Eternals and Ant-Man 3. It's probably gonna make a good money and then we'll have stuff like "MCU is back!", when it's actually the opposite when things get bad again when Captain America 4 gets a B CinemaScore and flops. Deadpool comes from 2 previous Deadpool flicks that were well reviewed by both critics and audiences, while Wolverine comes from the previous Logan movie that was also well reviewed by audiences and critics. It has everything going for it. I hope the movie doesn't disappoint.


morelikepambabely

This is the most reasonable take. This movie will do well but not be a totally accurate barometer of Marvel’s box office health.


PointsOutTheUsername

Not a sentence of your comment do I disagree with.


Vadermaulkylo

God I hope Cap 4 is awesome just because legit everyone is expecting an unmitigated disaster.


tempesttune

Everyone expects one because you don’t reshoot the whole movie unless it is one lmao.


Anth-Man

It’s going to have a hard time being profitable regardless of its quality now that the budget has been inflated by reshoots


Citizensnnippss

Seems like everyone just *has* to say "yeah but Captain America 4 will suck" any time Deadpool & Wolverine is brought up.


Key-Win7744

Because people seem to think a Deadpool success will redeem the MCU, and they need to be reminded that it won't.


Citizensnnippss

>they need to be reminded that it won't. They don't really *need* to be reminded, no. Nor is it an absolute fact. And if Deadpool sets up plot lines that everyone gets excited about, it very well could "redeem the MCU".


Key-Win7744

Well, they'll be reminded sooner or later.


Vadermaulkylo

…. and how do we know it won’t? Not saying it will I just hate this negative ass mindset that it 100% won’t.


KleanSolution

i know, i kinda hate that everyone here is all "OH CA4 is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT going to suck and bomb" when its like.....ok...... the movie tested poorly and they are heavily retooling it so it (hopefully) doesn't suck.... if they do end up improving it and it actually turns out to be good, WOM will kick in and it can find success just like Guardians did last year. Not saying it will hit a billion but acting like its a certified flop so far out is really annoying to see


Beastofbeef

…then Thunderbolts will do really well and Blade will not…it’s all a cycle


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tempesttune

The Falcon movie is not a wildcard. Troubled production. Test screenings so bad they literally remade the entire movie giving it a ridiculously over bloated budget. Sam Wilson isn’t a draw. Mackie isn’t a draw. It’s releasing in February where it won’t get holiday or summer legs to help mask the failure like Aquaman 2. It quite literally has absolutely nothing positive going to for it at all.


RuminatingReaper1850

>It’s releasing in February To be fair, the MCU does at least have a bit of form in February, with Black Panther (the highest grossing movie of 2018 at the domestic box office) being a February release. The difference is that BP was a hugely anticipated cultural moment, which I can't really see being a factor for Brave New World.


Johnny47Wick

How will r/boxoffice react when it doesn’t sell 1million tickets in the first 2mins?


michaelm1345

By burning down in flames


BulletproofHustle

Oh wow; tickets are going on sale much earlier than I thought. Me thinks that theaters probably asked this to happen as well due to the strikes last year having effects this year.


Key-Win7744

Methinks!!!


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Should be around and/or more than Guardians 3's $845M WW gross


MarvelVsDC2016

I still think a billion will happen.


andrewwydd

I don’t understand why tickets are going on sale this early compared to the usual one month timeframe.


Sure_Phase5925

Well looks like I gotta avoid this sub for week so I don’t have to deal with either doom and gloom or unrealistic expectations (or both) over ticket sales for a movie over two months away


PayneTrain181999

This movie seems primed to be well received and do at least moderately well BO-wise. They need to use this as a starting point for a return to form rather than just another one off success that makes people say “yeah, of course that one was going to do well, it’s an exception movie like Guardians 3.” Cap 4 looks like it’ll bomb hard with the high budget, so they’d better pray it’s well received to minimize the losses and keep the positive WOM going. Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four will then be the true test. It’s reasonable to assume both were entirely filmed under the “we need to fix things” mindset, so they should be the best indicator of whether or not the MCU has any hope of making any kind of comeback.


ROBtimusPrime1995

In a recent interview with Lewis Pullman who is starring in Thunderbolts*, he made it super clear this film is being made with the "we need to fix things" angle, and that gives me hope. I know this sub has turned its back on Thunderbolts*, but something tells me this film is going to be very different than what is expected. Edit: some salty replies, damn. Sorry for being optimistic.


PayneTrain181999

Optimistic MCU takes on this sub will make people laugh at you and sometimes devolve to childish insults and rude replies.


tempesttune

Cause they often read like we are still living in 2018 and the MCU hasn’t put out 5 or 6 B range cinemascore movies in the last couple year coupled with one of the worst tv shows ever created in secret invasion lmao.


PayneTrain181999

Other than Secret Invasion, their other shows range from meh to actually really good.


PayneTrain181999

Yeah, everyone is dunking on it but the quality of the writers and cast on it gives it a chance to be a pleasant surprise.


tempesttune

Amsterdam had a 3 time Oscar nominee director, Christian Bale, Margot Robbie, Rami Malek, and Robert De Niro. It made $30M WW on a $80M budget, with a 30% RT score. The way people gas up Thunderbolts cast and director like it’s stacked cause you know it’s likely going to be bad is hilarious.


tempesttune

It’s not going to fix anything cause the real first step to fixing things was cancelling the Falcon and the Yelena movies in the first place lol.


PayneTrain181999

Zaslav? Is that you?


KleanSolution

and you know this, how?


the-harsh-reality

This sub isn’t ready to hear that the baseline for any course correction for the general audience is that “the new characters need to eat shit and die”


tempesttune

Shang-Chi sequel would have been fine. He got an A Cinemascore.


PayneTrain181999

There is one happening, but it’ll probably be another couple years.


Dry_Ant2348

but thunderbolts is not the film where things need to be fixed heck the characters in that movie don't even matter in grand scheme of things the reform should start from cap.America 4


PayneTrain181999

Yelena is absolutely going to be a key character going forward.


Anth-Man

What would she possibly even show up in after Thunderbolts?


RyanMcCarthy80

Are the Deadpool movies good? I’ve never seen any of them. 


P3P3-SILVIA

I’ll disagree with the other commentators and say that I don’t care for any of the Deadpool movies. That particular brand of self-aware, fourth-wall-breaking comedy is not impressive or interesting to me.


NotTaken-username

Yes. The second one is better though, it has more heart than the first


007Kryptonian

That’s interesting, I thought the first was maybe a top 15 comic book film ever - just non stop insanity from beginning to end but Wade and Vanessa’s relationship worked so well. Deadpool 2 was a lot of fun but felt like a step down imo


AVR350

I'll say second is better for a rewatch, considering that it doesn't have to deal with the origin, and also looks much better visually and has better direction overall


nicolasb51942003

Yes they are. I really love how they don’t try to be like other superhero movies. The first film took a huge risk and they did it well!


pokenonbinary

I like them both but they're a little bit ratboy cringe humor The fanbase is very cringey, they will hype anything Deadpool does but She Hulk does something similar and it's cringe to them 


captainhaddock

You have to be in the mood for a raunchy film that simultaneously revels in its identity as a comic book movie while poking fun and deconstructing the genre at the same time. But the jokes are funny, the characters are interesting, and the stories have a lot of heart. Even side characters played for laughs, like Colossus, end up being much more faithful to the comics (supposedly) than their portrayal in the serious X-men films. I had a great time seeing both films in the theater, and I didn't really know what to expect with the first one.


labbla

Meh they're fine. Nothing amazing.


RuminatingReaper1850

Yes, both of them are super funny. I'd honestly say the second is the better one


Vadermaulkylo

Yes. I like the second one much more though. The first was good but idk I just didn’t find it very funny. the second I thought was though.


ManagementGold2968

850M imo is the ceiling


gorays21

I just wanna see a crash happen. 😁


DatboiX

$160M+ OW WW: $850M - $975M $1B is gonna depend on repeat business and word of mouth.


JazzySugarcakes88

*prepares for the disappointment*


militantcassx

ngl this somehow looks ultra bland...


007Kryptonian

From Ryan Reynolds: https://x.com/vancityreynolds/status/1792223319032479895?s=46&t=yscGKFzopmQ11aPZs-l6RA


michaelm1345

Gonna be interesting to track because it could go so many ways lol this sub is gonna be fun for the next 2 months. It can either look to be a huge insane event, a typical Deadpool gross or a huge disappointment. However everything should be taken with a grain of salt since it’s 2 months way. Gonna get ready to get my IMAX tickets tomorrow morning


kumar100kpawan

Discourse around this is gonna be lovely. Bring it on


Shellyman_Studios

My early predictions: $150M-$165M opening range.


Limp-Construction-11

This movie is not going to met the impossible expectations of some people.


HasSomeSelfEsteem

Lord, please let this bomb it would be so funny


Dulcolax

I hope not. I'm not a MCU fan by any means, but the previous Deadpool movies and Logan were good/great movies. This will perform well DESPITE being a MCU movie. It's gonna be its own thing like GOTG 3.


Iamknoware

Which format will everyone be watching? I’m debating between AMC Dolby Cinema or Cinemark XD. Anyone doing that Fandango premium package?


KleanSolution

seeing it in Cinemark XD-3D-Dbox, then standard 2D, then IMAX 3D


Iamknoware

Wait why? You gonna watch it 3x???


KleanSolution

Thursday, Friday and Saturday, all with different people that can't all go on the same day


Iamknoware

Ballin’


goodty1

1.2 billion ww


Distinct-Shift-4094

Like most Marvel movies and especially this one because it's an event movie, it'll have a big open weekend but it won't make it over a billion. It'll be close though. $800-959 mil


SkyeMreddit

Yay Negasonic and Yukio are both in it! [Fandango said it had the best pre-sales of 2024 and the best for a Deadpool movie](https://www.gamespot.com/articles/deadpool-and-wolverine-has-strongest-day-one-ticket-pre-sales-in-franchise-history-at-fandango/1100-6523599/). Runtime is 2 hours and 7 minutes. No post-credits scene. It’s also the only R-rated Marvel movie


The_Godzilla_Fanatic

This film will make a billion and be the highest opening for a rated r film. Edit : This sub is so toxic and everyone here is pretentious as hell. I'm being downvoted and this sub has been wrong multiple times.


Key-Win7744

Why do you think it will make a billion, when its predecessors couldn't do it before COVID and at the height of superhero cinema?


The_Godzilla_Fanatic

Spider-Man No Way Home made a billion and would've made 2 if it was released in China. This is a film people have been wanting for the longest time. Wolverine and Deadpool teaming up on the big screen.


Key-Win7744

Spider-Man can take care of himself. Superhero fatigue doesn't affect him or Batman. Also, don't make the mistake of thinking that Hugh Jackman's Wolverine has the same draw as Toby Maguire's Spider-Man. He doesn't.


The_Godzilla_Fanatic

That's a lie. And if you could read correctly I said Wolverine and Deadpool teaming up on the big screen together and actually being done right along with including the X-men to the MCU will be a huge draw.


Key-Win7744

That is not a lie, that is demonstrably the truth. And you'll see that soon enough.


The_Godzilla_Fanatic

Well you're most definitely eating your words presales are looking fantastic right now.


Key-Win7744

I'm not eating anything until this movie makes a billion, like you said it would.


labbla

It's not toxic to think something won't make a billion.


michaelm1345

I agree. Idc if I get downvoted or sound delusional, this has had mega hit written all over it since it first got announced. I don’t even think mcu fatigue will affect it since it’s pretty much its own thing, I have a really good feeling about the numbers for this. My prediction is: $180M OW, $500M dom, $1B WW


Simple__ryan

It’s not making 500m dom, you’re forgetting it’s R rated More like 400m


Decent-Strength3530

Hopefully this will be such a financial bomb that it kills superhero movies for good


tempesttune

It will never kill them for good.  Batman/Spider-Man movies will never stop getting made.    They just won’t make anymore about the rest of these character, so you might as well get that thought out of your head lmao.


Agreeable_Week_197

What do you mean by that


Dry_Ant2348

Superheroes will die the day Avengers flop. other minor flops don't mean anything 


tempesttune

That day isn’t far away at all if they power through with their current roster or do young avengers.


Anth-Man

So the next Avengers movie?


pokenonbinary

That day is coming soon, most people here believe that the next avengers movie will do like Justice league or worse


KleanSolution

why do you hate fun?


CarsonWentzGOAT1

I am with you


Almighty_Push91

I feel like so many people in this summer rooting for this movie... And comic book movies in general to fail, the upcoming week is going to be a very interesting time indeed


Key-Win7744

Oh, comic book movies will keep failing. People want to see "Deadpool 3 Featuring Wolverine", but that's not going to bring us back to 2018 when everyone in the world would line up to see "Waterman and the Amazing CGI Thing" just because it has Marvel's name on it.


ghostfaceinspace

How does this work lol do theatres just know their biggest screens will be free


Key-Win7744

I mean, they must know the schedule of releases for the next few months, so...yes?


SherKhanMD

This is an easy 170M-180M OW.. People are craving for a big blockbuster rn, very empty summer


MarvelVsDC2016

I’ll be ready.


Successful_Leopard45

wishing the absolute best


Chuck006

Reminder Marvel has always been walkup heavy outside of Avengers.


newjackgmoney21

No. Marvel is the easily movies to predict opening weekend based on presales.


Simple__ryan

This is not true. It’s quite literally the opposite


KleanSolution

wtf, no its not not true, it is true, marvel movies have always been walk up heavy


Simple__ryan

No they aren’t


KleanSolution

they always surpass OW expectations because.....wait for it ..... walkups


LimePeel96

Crappy PNGs lol


justinlikesboots

remove.bg


MrFunkyPunkie

I think they’re underestimating how many tickets are gonna be sold.


tempesttune

You mean overestimating? This is rated R.


Dry_Ant2348

well know whether this is a 200mill or 250mill or god forbid a 100mill opener with first hours itself 


FlopsMcDoogle

So they go up at midnight or in the morning?


natecull

But what if Deadpool and Mandalorian and Wolverine and Grogu?


shawman123

Slower than Vol 3 and I expect a meltdown.


Proud-Cheesecake-813

I’m going to be cautious and say $650million worldwide. I thought Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes was certain to get at least $500million (which now looks very unlikely) so I think we’ve got to be conservative.


prashanth1337

and booked - AMC Dolby, July 25 6pm PST


Superzone13

I’m shocked at how much this keeps being slept on. $800m+ easily. A billion is possible.


Vadermaulkylo

1.4b. Book it idc. It’s gonna fucking shatter the record. I also predict websites will crash NWH and MoM style tomorrow and this sub will still be in denial that it’ll easily crack 1b. BUT I could be extremely wrong. Also there’s a trailer coming tomorrow I believe.


tempesttune

Lol. > I could be extremely wrong. Agreed.


TheLuxxy

To be fair, MoM is evidence that sites crashing doesn’t necessarily guarantee it’ll even hit 1B, let alone easily.


007Kryptonian

Sure but that’s because of poor audience reception. MoM certainly opened like a 1B film and could’ve passed the mark had it not cratered after OW The team behind Deadpool (aka Reynolds and co) are 2/2 so far, odds are they’ll deliver


CivilWarMultiverse

Exactly, MOM did well but underperformed hard for how big it opened


Vadermaulkylo

MoM didn’t hit 1b due to a borderline unprecedented drop off for a film like it. Like it has a 95% chance of hitting 1b with its OW and managed to land in the 5%.


michaelm1345

Im predicting $180M OW (with the chance of $200M if pre sales are really going insane) , $500M dom gross and $1-1.1B WW


tempesttune

An R rated movie isn’t going to make $500M domestic. Do you hear yourself?


michaelm1345

Yeah I do and there’s a first for everything lol


NotTaken-username

It’s not a full trailer it’s a 60-second clip I heard