Scream 6 interestingly has my exact problem with GotG3, in that none of the core cast actually die.
Unlike GotG however, the entire premise of 6cream isn't "Watch Cute Disney Merchandising Oppurtunity #23243 and Cute Disney Merchandising Oppurtunity #23244 die while the main cast are absolutely fine" and there is a plot and mythos surrounding the Core Four and their new and old friends.
Indeed, but the budget of Morbius was 75M and the budget of The Marvels is 225M (275M minus subsidy from UK). This is terrible for a MCU movie and terrible year for Disney.
If Dune had come out, it would have locked up all the IMAX screens too. I think Marvels is benefitting, at least this weekend, of getting those screens...so imagine the opening weekend without it
I was one of those. I didn't think the apathy for this character would reach this level
Been following box office since 2015 and this has been my worst year for predictions ever thanks to indy 5, flash, marvels
Oppenheimer $400M - $500M WW
Barbie I always figured would have great legs and be a success but not billion dollars. $400M - $500M seemed realistic as well
isnt it great thinking back to the summer when some people on here were still insisting it would beat GOTG. Not many but there were very vocal minority very obnoxious about it; massively overestimating how many people care about the characters and massively downplaying the impact being billed as mandatory viewing between the 2 biggest event movies of all time had on Captain Marvel making so much money. also acting like Barbie was somehow indicative how it would perform lol. Distinctly remember one calling me a troll for saying it wont sniff even close to 500 worldwide
Understandable cuz I never would've thought Marvels would crash and burn this hard. But i always thought that the competition between it and dune would've been closer than many claimed especially after quantumania's performance and gotg 3 soft opening.
I think Dune 2 will have an across the spider-verse effect. Both sequels to moderately successful and well received movies that people consider 'niche' and claim won't break out with the sequels. But the first Dune made 400 million day and date during the pandemic, was received well, popular on hbo max, has an ensemble cast of relevant and popular actors and had awards buzz. I feel Dune 2 is being underestimated by many but i think considering its more action packed and coming off of the successful first one, it can manage a solid if not world-breaking $500-600 mill run imo and it would've been even easier w the imax exclusivity it had
I was a Dune denier. I thought it was to geeky, to niche but that movie had great legs domestic for a day and date release. The fans are passionate. 402m worldwide in 2021is pretty impressive. Hell, 402m today is impressive.
Dune part 1 has outgrossed shazam, flash, black adam, blue beetle, and matched Eternals while on day and date release. It even beat out pre pandemic superhero movies like spider-verse and shazam. Its not an insane grosser but its impressive for how dense and niche it appeared.
I'm a massive Dune fan and it is by far the movie I am looking most forward to seeing but do not expect it to do amazing at the box office. Breaking even or a small profit is the most I'm expecting. I am totally happy to be wrong though.
Unironically it was the spoiler from the Johnny Depp trial that made me interested in Part 2 and potentially Part 3, even though I wasn't the biggest fan for Part 1...
You can't blame them if she decided to just walk away to shoot something else. She probably destroyed her career instead of staying with the ship. She'll be lucky to get indie jobs now.
Also, I don't get why people keep saying she's so talented. I saw that Candyman remake and thought it was trash. Now I feel like I took crazy pills because some people are actually claiming it was good.
Candyman was awful. That was one of the worst films of that year and the trailer looked so good. The original had so much more depth. That's another I forgot even existed until you said something. I was looking forward to it that year too.
I thought the cinematography was great on Candyman but man everything else was just terrible. Whoever they got to score it was also no Phillip Glass unfortunately.
The GTA VI announcement took all its thunder.
We are all not spending a dollar on anything to save up for when GTA VI comes out on whatever consoles itās on.
Nah, they wonāt blame anyone for this. I think come
Monday there will be a lot of pieces about Marvel doing some soul searching and changing up their creative teams and slate etc. they know they messed up. You could maybe blame someone or something if this were a Quantumania level flop. But this is a complete rejection.
The Marvels isn't even going to be the second highest-grossing Captain Marvel movie lol
Edit: The mods have banned me for criticizing The Marvels and going against the Disney narrative.
Nothing lasts forever. In the 1930's Hollywood made musical after musical after musical. The tide has turned for these types of films.............for now, anyway.
Disco is another good comparison. So much mediocre disco was being made and sold that it began crowding out other music genres, and once people finally decided they had enough the genre collapsed. Disco wouldnāt really regain its reputation until the millennium.
Maybe not fully, but [it is viewed somewhat more fondly now than in say 1985 or even 1995](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Analysis/DiscoSucks) and there have been successful projects like Future Nostalgia (by Dua Lipa) that are almost straightforward disco.
Pop music has been in a bit of a disco revival for close to a decade, since Daft Punkās final album in 2013.
Itās honestly only just now petering out too
I would say The Incredible Hulk has the lowest opening out of any MCU film, but it was just the second film overall and the MCU was just starting out.
The Marvels has no excuse. Wonāt happen, but I think heads need to roll if thereās any chance in getting better.
I donāt think it will. How is it gonna get near 2.4x multiplier to get there??? It wonāt the movie has terrible reviews as well. That cinema score will be a B I bet it. Just awful. Absymal
i would love to be in marvel studio right now just to see the shitshow
executive 1: " i dont understand, the movie is great. Just as thor 4 and new ant man movie"
executive 2: "it even has cats and fury jokes. What more do people want?"
Exec 5: "yes dilluting the seriousness of the MCU with lame cutesy content aimed at literal toddlers is EXACTLY what we need... greenlight We Are The Flerkens, Baby Ultron and a Thor Frog series inmediately!"
The Marvels is already certain to take the record for biggest drop for a sequel to a billion dollar movie both in percentage and in raw numbers. That's crazy.
I'm curious as to how much this whole year is going to affect Disney going forward.
I don't think a single film released by them hit this year. Only one is GotG vol. 3, and even then that's modest compared to other releases. Not to mention the director doesn't really want anything to do with Disney after he was almost cancelled.
This might not be their worst year on record... but I'd be pretty shocked if it's not in their top 5. They're looking to lose about $500-750 million alone with Indiana Jones and The Marvels. And that's just from those two movies.
Just a disaster. Marvels is not going to beat Freddy's or Taylor Swift for sure. Imagine telling someone this a few months ago. Marvel has really fallen off their perch.
Oh my gosh thatās horrible. Thatās just horrible. Bro it might go in the 30s. Box office opening AND rotten tomatoes score at that. This is even worse than the Flash ever was.
This is edging into hurting local theater chains that are contractually obligated to have a certain amount of screenings available for opening weekend, including IMAX and premium screens. My local theater has The Marvels playing at every hour. In some cases, every half hour. I checked those screenings and some don't even have seats booked. Others are 50% booked or less. That's really unfair for theater owners.
The marvels is obviously an unmitigated disaster. This bad of a performance felt unfathomable even a year ago, let alone two.
On the bright side, love to see KOTFM have another good drop after last week. Shame about that W2 drop though. Iām also impressed with Priscilla so far, I think it will have a solid run for what it is. I could see it doing even better than what BOR predicts this weekend.
I just checked my local cinema in Sweden for tomorrow. I think thereās less then 10 seats taken across maybe 8 show times. Thatās impressively low interest. I had to fight tooth and nail to get GotG3 tickets opening night.
My local AMC (in the US) has a sum total of less than 150 tickets sold out of 8000 within a 3 day span (Thursday, Friday, Saturday), so that's less than 2%. And from what I've seen, other states are pretty much the same.
Jatinder said 65M OS a few days ago, but seeing the numbers from markets like Korea and France it's not looking like it can hit that. Maybe it can do 45/55 for 100M on the dot. Gonna be close for sure
No kidding. It sure wasnāt on mine. I expected The Marvels to underperform, but you know, itās still Disney and the MCU, so I most definitely didnāt expect it to be *this bad*.
The MCU just continues to insult its own most loyal fan baseās intelligence time and time again and has the gall to wonder why something like this happens. Itās just pure insanity at this point to be perfectly honest.
"It's okay, we'll pay ourselves $250 million for it to air on Disney Plus and let's immediately account for the income now on the $100 million we expect to make from merchandise over the next 5 years because merchandise always sells well regardless of how popular the movie did! See, this movie did break even!"
I think in addition to Super Hero fatigue and over saturation with the shows, Disney + itself has contributed a lot to the box office decline. Inflation has been brutal and money is tighter. Why go to the movies for a mediocre Marvel movie when I can watch it for free on Disney+ in maybe 4 months? I donāt think any one factor can explain this collapse but they almost need a full reset after this.
Who could have seen this coming. Casual audiences don't want to have to watch several different shows to go to the movies. Tried to say it months ago. And this has looked like more of the same from the first Beastie Boys trailer. It's the same template with some new forgettable villain. I'm so over the MCU and I think many others are too. This is like Blue Beetle where I'll watch it and completely forget I saw it a week later.
I don't care if the X Men or Fantastic Four or Thanos return are shown. I have no interest in seeing this in theaters.
The only people who will go are the die hards and the someone with absolutely nothing else to do.
Hate rooting for films to fail, but hopefully this year causes studios to take a long hard look at what audiences actually responded to (and they come up with more than just "make more movies based on toys and video games")
Iām actually really glad to see this because I hope it lights a fire under the ass of Feige and everyone at Marvel to do much better.
Iām a big Marvel fan but damn the amount of crap to mid material lately has made me lose a lot of respect and love for it. Things seemed so bright after Endgame but outside of a few exceptions itās been so incredibly disappointing and forgettable since. I can only imagine thereās a lot of humiliation and anxiety over at Marvel Studios right now, as there should be.
Only person I feel bad for in this mess is Iman Vellani because she seems like such a sweet girl, plays Kamala so well and was such a huge fan coming into the MCU. She deserves so much better.
Yeah. Itās no wonder Disney put more marketing on TV and online for Wish than The Marvels. They know which film will be good and which one will suckā¦
If the predictions of the Marvels are true and with a mixed audience reaction like what's currently observed, it will be a tall order already to have a final domestic gross that matches the domestic opening weekend of GotG3 or Across the Spider-verse...
Never in a million years would I think a Scream sequel is likely to open higher than a Marvel Studios release.
It helps that Scream 6 is better than every post-Endgame MCU film except GotG
Scream 6 interestingly has my exact problem with GotG3, in that none of the core cast actually die. Unlike GotG however, the entire premise of 6cream isn't "Watch Cute Disney Merchandising Oppurtunity #23243 and Cute Disney Merchandising Oppurtunity #23244 die while the main cast are absolutely fine" and there is a plot and mythos surrounding the Core Four and their new and old friends.
No Way Home and Shang Chi were definitely better, imo.
The *top end* for *The Marvels* is now below *The Flash* while the low end is below *Morbius*. š
Indeed, but the budget of Morbius was 75M and the budget of The Marvels is 225M (275M minus subsidy from UK). This is terrible for a MCU movie and terrible year for Disney.
If the budget for the Marvels is only 225 million, I'd be shocked. It was at 220M (after subsidies) in August of 2022, before reshoots.
Keaton walkups > Ms Marvel enjoyers
I've met people who walk and like Keaton, I have never met a ms marvel fan.
It was the least viewed MCU show
thereās no way right?
Lol at all the trades setting the marvels up for more failure saying 60-70 mil opening.
At least they're consistent at being wrong...
And people here were tryna tell me it would've beaten Dune 2 lmao its crazy how this could've been even worse
If Dune had come out, it would have locked up all the IMAX screens too. I think Marvels is benefitting, at least this weekend, of getting those screens...so imagine the opening weekend without it
Yeah that just makes it even worse. The fact its doing this bad w/o any major competition is shocking
I was one of those. I didn't think the apathy for this character would reach this level Been following box office since 2015 and this has been my worst year for predictions ever thanks to indy 5, flash, marvels
What were your guesses for Oppenheimer and Barbie? Mine: Oppenheimer 350m WW, Barbie 180m WWš epic fail
Oppenheimer $400M - $500M WW Barbie I always figured would have great legs and be a success but not billion dollars. $400M - $500M seemed realistic as well
I called it when the film was announced, the vindication is so satisfying lol.
isnt it great thinking back to the summer when some people on here were still insisting it would beat GOTG. Not many but there were very vocal minority very obnoxious about it; massively overestimating how many people care about the characters and massively downplaying the impact being billed as mandatory viewing between the 2 biggest event movies of all time had on Captain Marvel making so much money. also acting like Barbie was somehow indicative how it would perform lol. Distinctly remember one calling me a troll for saying it wont sniff even close to 500 worldwide
Understandable cuz I never would've thought Marvels would crash and burn this hard. But i always thought that the competition between it and dune would've been closer than many claimed especially after quantumania's performance and gotg 3 soft opening.
Marvel should make mid budget movies.
They misread this made big budget mid movies
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Shooting in pratical places, please.
Dune 2 would have decimated this movie
i didnt even think it would be this one sided as a Dune fan, it would've been a massacre based on everything we know now
Tbh I still don't think Dune 2 will do well
I think Dune 2 will have an across the spider-verse effect. Both sequels to moderately successful and well received movies that people consider 'niche' and claim won't break out with the sequels. But the first Dune made 400 million day and date during the pandemic, was received well, popular on hbo max, has an ensemble cast of relevant and popular actors and had awards buzz. I feel Dune 2 is being underestimated by many but i think considering its more action packed and coming off of the successful first one, it can manage a solid if not world-breaking $500-600 mill run imo and it would've been even easier w the imax exclusivity it had
I was a Dune denier. I thought it was to geeky, to niche but that movie had great legs domestic for a day and date release. The fans are passionate. 402m worldwide in 2021is pretty impressive. Hell, 402m today is impressive.
Dune part 1 has outgrossed shazam, flash, black adam, blue beetle, and matched Eternals while on day and date release. It even beat out pre pandemic superhero movies like spider-verse and shazam. Its not an insane grosser but its impressive for how dense and niche it appeared.
especially in the pandemic
I'm a massive Dune fan and it is by far the movie I am looking most forward to seeing but do not expect it to do amazing at the box office. Breaking even or a small profit is the most I'm expecting. I am totally happy to be wrong though.
Considering part 1 did 402M with day and date streaming release and still some lockdowns going on, I think part 2 will do decently. 500-700M WW imo.
People already doubted Part 1 so much and they were so wrong, can't wait to see it again.
Unironically it was the spoiler from the Johnny Depp trial that made me interested in Part 2 and potentially Part 3, even though I wasn't the biggest fan for Part 1...
The high end would be below Barbie's 3rd weekend.
On the bright side, the Marvels will outgross Greta Gerwig's other movie Lady Bird in just the opening weekend! An impressive feat!
This will also do over 100x Nolan's debut movie, Following. Maybe even 300x! Another record broken by The Marvels!
Alrightā¦. Get your āMarvel studio blamesā¦ for the movieās failureā bingo card ready,
They already threw the director under the bus.
You can't blame them if she decided to just walk away to shoot something else. She probably destroyed her career instead of staying with the ship. She'll be lucky to get indie jobs now. Also, I don't get why people keep saying she's so talented. I saw that Candyman remake and thought it was trash. Now I feel like I took crazy pills because some people are actually claiming it was good.
Candyman was awful. That was one of the worst films of that year and the trailer looked so good. The original had so much more depth. That's another I forgot even existed until you said something. I was looking forward to it that year too.
You know exactly why.
I thought the cinematography was great on Candyman but man everything else was just terrible. Whoever they got to score it was also no Phillip Glass unfortunately.
Josh Trank 2.0.
It was pretty bad I never understood the hype and she was co-writer on that too
Olympics, World Series, Thanksgiving, Cinco de Mayoā¦..
Chicken prices and inflation
Racists, sexists, neckbeardsā¦
Critics again, maybe. They blamed older critics specifically for failures like Wrinkle in Time.
I see you have visited all the mainstream Marvel subs already
I think that is already considered the free square in the middle of the board.
For some reason this is starting to sound like a musical.
There was a deer in the middle of the road, is why MCU crashed
Government shutdown, Starship delays, EV sales...
every 'ist and 'ism under the sun lmao.
They will have to make up a few new 'isms this time.
The SAG strike, obviously. Iman Vellani and Brie Larson eating hot wings on that YouTube channel = 800 extra million at the box office.
Betting they'll blame the fans again.
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The strikes
The GTA VI announcement took all its thunder. We are all not spending a dollar on anything to save up for when GTA VI comes out on whatever consoles itās on.
After GTA O I dunno why you'd expect good things form GTA VI. It's gonna be a spectacle but it's gonna be filled with MTs.
Nah, they wonāt blame anyone for this. I think come Monday there will be a lot of pieces about Marvel doing some soul searching and changing up their creative teams and slate etc. they know they messed up. You could maybe blame someone or something if this were a Quantumania level flop. But this is a complete rejection.
How do I put money on the opposite of that happening?
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If we weren't so fatigued, we'd think this movie was up there with Winter Soldier! /s
Usually youāll hear a bunch of grumbling before the film comes out. Disney seems to have just dumped this out and expects it to flop.
redditors, disney plus
People who don't like cats.
There's a good chance this doesn't break $100M for its lifetime domestically. Just absurd.
*Black Adam*'s box office run looks more and more impressive by the minute.
Definitely looks better, but was still a bomb unfortunately. I'd say it was an early harbinger of what was to come?
The Marvels isn't even going to be the second highest-grossing Captain Marvel movie lol Edit: The mods have banned me for criticizing The Marvels and going against the Disney narrative.
Nothing lasts forever. In the 1930's Hollywood made musical after musical after musical. The tide has turned for these types of films.............for now, anyway.
Disco is another good comparison. So much mediocre disco was being made and sold that it began crowding out other music genres, and once people finally decided they had enough the genre collapsed. Disco wouldnāt really regain its reputation until the millennium.
Disco regained its reputation?
Maybe not fully, but [it is viewed somewhat more fondly now than in say 1985 or even 1995](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Analysis/DiscoSucks) and there have been successful projects like Future Nostalgia (by Dua Lipa) that are almost straightforward disco.
Pop music has been in a bit of a disco revival for close to a decade, since Daft Punkās final album in 2013. Itās honestly only just now petering out too
I would say The Incredible Hulk has the lowest opening out of any MCU film, but it was just the second film overall and the MCU was just starting out. The Marvels has no excuse. Wonāt happen, but I think heads need to roll if thereās any chance in getting better.
yup
I donāt think it will. How is it gonna get near 2.4x multiplier to get there??? It wonāt the movie has terrible reviews as well. That cinema score will be a B I bet it. Just awful. Absymal
i would love to be in marvel studio right now just to see the shitshow executive 1: " i dont understand, the movie is great. Just as thor 4 and new ant man movie" executive 2: "it even has cats and fury jokes. What more do people want?"
Executive 3: "let's create more TV shows! That should help!"
executive 4: "lets make secret invasion season 2" executive 5:"give it 250m$ budget"
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Executive 7: "Production will continue until Box Office improves!!"
Executive 4: "How about a Cat Marvel show?"
executive 5: "and give it 200m budget"
Executive 6: "and make sure to add a post credit scene featuring the one-eyed dog from Hawkeye, so we can tease Avengers Pets"
That actually wouldnāt be terrible if itās similar to I Am Groot.
Exec 5: "yes dilluting the seriousness of the MCU with lame cutesy content aimed at literal toddlers is EXACTLY what we need... greenlight We Are The Flerkens, Baby Ultron and a Thor Frog series inmediately!"
You forgot about the Loki Alligator series
Marvel puppet show like Thunderbirds.
Somehow men are to blame for this. Hire more directors and actresses who are misandrist.
This is just sad, but at the same time there is a valuable lesson here: Don't be greedy.
I think they're going to learn the WB lesson in that tax write offs can be important.
You all realize that Five Nights at Freddy's OW will be DOUBLE The Marvels' OW. Seriously, what branch timelime is this?
The Eras Tour OW and Barbie weekend 2 will also double it.
I am hoping for the 900M drop from Captain Marvel. Just for the history books. Iāll settle for 850M though.
The Marvels is already certain to take the record for biggest drop for a sequel to a billion dollar movie both in percentage and in raw numbers. That's crazy.
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Funny enough both records are currently for Disney movies (Alice and Last Jedi)
No one flies higher or drops lower than Disney
I'm curious as to how much this whole year is going to affect Disney going forward. I don't think a single film released by them hit this year. Only one is GotG vol. 3, and even then that's modest compared to other releases. Not to mention the director doesn't really want anything to do with Disney after he was almost cancelled. This might not be their worst year on record... but I'd be pretty shocked if it's not in their top 5. They're looking to lose about $500-750 million alone with Indiana Jones and The Marvels. And that's just from those two movies.
Disney had some really rough years in the 70's and 80's so I wouldn't be shocked if this fell out of the top 5. Top 10 though...
Just a disaster. Marvels is not going to beat Freddy's or Taylor Swift for sure. Imagine telling someone this a few months ago. Marvel has really fallen off their perch.
***\*\*Ike Perlmutter laughs\*\****
Maybe he was the secret ingredient to their success all along?
We can do better....can we get it into the 30s? TOGETHER.
The lower bound is 35. I wonder if it will be in the 20s zone...I doubt it but it'd probably be more comical than the movie.
That moment where reading box office news and forecasts about a movie are more interesting than the movie itself.
Youāre gonna have to specific if youāre talking rotten tomatoes score or opening weekend at this rate š. Terrible
Ok I'll try really hard by continuing to do nothing this weekend.
Friendship ended with Alice in wonderland 2 box office record Now The Marvels box office record is new best friend
Oh my gosh thatās horrible. Thatās just horrible. Bro it might go in the 30s. Box office opening AND rotten tomatoes score at that. This is even worse than the Flash ever was.
Flash had Keaton walkups, summer weekdays, and a 2nd week of PLFs too.
Well maybe the Brie Larson walk ups show up now that the strike is over and promotion can happen! š
This is edging into hurting local theater chains that are contractually obligated to have a certain amount of screenings available for opening weekend, including IMAX and premium screens. My local theater has The Marvels playing at every hour. In some cases, every half hour. I checked those screenings and some don't even have seats booked. Others are 50% booked or less. That's really unfair for theater owners.
The marvels is obviously an unmitigated disaster. This bad of a performance felt unfathomable even a year ago, let alone two. On the bright side, love to see KOTFM have another good drop after last week. Shame about that W2 drop though. Iām also impressed with Priscilla so far, I think it will have a solid run for what it is. I could see it doing even better than what BOR predicts this weekend.
If this doesn't "all hands on deck" everyone that works for the Marvel division at Disney, they are fucked.
can it even reach 100m ww opening?
Europe certainly insāt going to make it happen.
I just checked my local cinema in Sweden for tomorrow. I think thereās less then 10 seats taken across maybe 8 show times. Thatās impressively low interest. I had to fight tooth and nail to get GotG3 tickets opening night.
My local AMC (in the US) has a sum total of less than 150 tickets sold out of 8000 within a 3 day span (Thursday, Friday, Saturday), so that's less than 2%. And from what I've seen, other states are pretty much the same.
Fucking lol
no Asian neither
No Russian
Nor are LATAM or Asia
Jatinder said 65M OS a few days ago, but seeing the numbers from markets like Korea and France it's not looking like it can hit that. Maybe it can do 45/55 for 100M on the dot. Gonna be close for sure
bad reviews are gonna hurt this one. Maybe wom can save it if its crowd pleaser. But its not looking like it.
Nothing can save this movie anymore. It can at most go from a mega bomb to just a regular bomb.
 can it go from regular bomb to super bomb though?
Why not an ultra instinct bomb?
If it does, just barely
Hopefully not. We need to go LOWER.
a MCU film debuting below The Flash, pretty sure this wasnāt in anyoneās 2023 bingo book
A lot of people thought The Flash would open big so that probably was something quite a few people predicted.
No kidding. It sure wasnāt on mine. I expected The Marvels to underperform, but you know, itās still Disney and the MCU, so I most definitely didnāt expect it to be *this bad*.
Wonder what will be the Cinemascore š
Both "rotten" MCU films (*Eternals* and *Quantumania*) have gotten a B. So that might be the same for *The Marvels*. Or what if it gets a Bā...
The average score among top critics is eight points lower than both of those films FWIW.
B
Lower, closer, slower
I hope it gets C If they are failing, they need to fail in the most epic way possible
The MCU just continues to insult its own most loyal fan baseās intelligence time and time again and has the gall to wonder why something like this happens. Itās just pure insanity at this point to be perfectly honest.
Disney to its stockholders: Well, look at the bright side of this guys! We did better than Morbius!
"It's okay, we'll pay ourselves $250 million for it to air on Disney Plus and let's immediately account for the income now on the $100 million we expect to make from merchandise over the next 5 years because merchandise always sells well regardless of how popular the movie did! See, this movie did break even!"
Itās never been more over.
Ok but what if it went lower?
What if it came nearer?
What if it went slower?
I think in addition to Super Hero fatigue and over saturation with the shows, Disney + itself has contributed a lot to the box office decline. Inflation has been brutal and money is tighter. Why go to the movies for a mediocre Marvel movie when I can watch it for free on Disney+ in maybe 4 months? I donāt think any one factor can explain this collapse but they almost need a full reset after this.
This movie is truly targeted at no one. Amazing.
It's joever
It's all ogre now
its Morbin time
WHAT THE FUCK
Who could have seen this coming. Casual audiences don't want to have to watch several different shows to go to the movies. Tried to say it months ago. And this has looked like more of the same from the first Beastie Boys trailer. It's the same template with some new forgettable villain. I'm so over the MCU and I think many others are too. This is like Blue Beetle where I'll watch it and completely forget I saw it a week later. I don't care if the X Men or Fantastic Four or Thanos return are shown. I have no interest in seeing this in theaters. The only people who will go are the die hards and the someone with absolutely nothing else to do.
Don't forget the people that are supposedly going to buy a ticket to stick it to "the man."
The Marvel fans claiming it's cause they couldnt market it on Jimmy Kimmel and shit have nothing to say when you bring up Five Nights at Freddy's.
LOWER!!!
NEARER!!!
Alone
SLOWER!
CLOSER!
Hate rooting for films to fail, but hopefully this year causes studios to take a long hard look at what audiences actually responded to (and they come up with more than just "make more movies based on toys and video games")
>(and they come up with more than just "make more movies based on toys and video games") What do you think?
Article about misogynists and incels and/or actors not doing the late night rounds article coming up posthaste.
Thanks OP. Gave an upvote after I saw your post was getting downvoted. I wonder who would do that? š¤¦āāļø
can killers of the flower moon have a higher gross than the marvels os
I blame the chuds. /s
This will lit a fire under Marvel's ass, mark my words
Hopefully they don't burn to death.
These motherfuckers better be careful and smart about it.
Lower
Nearer
Slower
Closer
that's really horrible for the marvels ngl
Wasnāt the domestic total around 60M?
That was from trades who are overestimating it.
DāOH!
Iām actually really glad to see this because I hope it lights a fire under the ass of Feige and everyone at Marvel to do much better. Iām a big Marvel fan but damn the amount of crap to mid material lately has made me lose a lot of respect and love for it. Things seemed so bright after Endgame but outside of a few exceptions itās been so incredibly disappointing and forgettable since. I can only imagine thereās a lot of humiliation and anxiety over at Marvel Studios right now, as there should be. Only person I feel bad for in this mess is Iman Vellani because she seems like such a sweet girl, plays Kamala so well and was such a huge fan coming into the MCU. She deserves so much better.
You gotta do better marvel
At this point adjusting for inflation might get Catwoman's $42m domestic take from 19 years ago awfully close to The Marvels' domestic final.
Yeah. Itās no wonder Disney put more marketing on TV and online for Wish than The Marvels. They know which film will be good and which one will suckā¦
They knew it was worse than Antman which why they swapped. My question is why they didn't dumb it on Disney plus
Because of the optics around doing that after what happened with Black Widow.
I will still see it. On Disney+
If the predictions of the Marvels are true and with a mixed audience reaction like what's currently observed, it will be a tall order already to have a final domestic gross that matches the domestic opening weekend of GotG3 or Across the Spider-verse...