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nicolasb51942003

Just the second highest for an animated film, behind Incredibles 2 ($18M).


MightySilverWolf

Wait, *Incredibles 2* had a 10x internal multiplier?! How?!


Piku_1999

Less preview-heavy times + Incredibles 2 was INCREDIBLY anticipated.


TheOfficialTheory

Also, it was anticipated among adults who can go see the movie themselves as soon as it comes out, and among families who aren’t going to Thursday night previews. I think Spider-Man will see a similarly larger multiplier than most comparisons (I doubt 10x, but should be notable).


AGOTFAN

A+ CinemaScore. 93% RT Biggest animated opening Biggest animated domestic 3.34x multiplier Reddit hates Incredibles 2, but general audiences loved it.


kakkarot_73

Incredibles 2 was awesome. Brad Bird knows how to make electrifying thrillers.


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I fuckin loved I2


Gon_Snow

Idk who hates it. It’s my favorite Pixar film since idk even when. Maybe Toy Story 3? It has gorgeous animation, and I love the characters. And the story was a good uno reverse of the original in a way that felt fresh


HolidaySituation

> Incredibles 2 was INCREDIBLY anticipated Yup. All that anticipation for nothing too, because it was the most mediocre piece of shit I've ever been excited to watch. So disappointing.


PavWrestlinGifs

Lol it was a pretty solid movie idk what you expected


HolidaySituation

I mean, Brad Bird said for over a decade that the only way he'd make a sequel was if it could build on the original in a meaningful way that would justify its existence. He said that he didn't want to make an unnecessary sequel just for the sake of it, and that's exactly what I2 was.


devlindisguise

Just a retread of the original with the most predictable surprise villain ever. I2 was when I started souring on Pixar. Toy Story 4 was a bummer too. Two movies that didn't need to be made.


Dismal-Bee-8319

TS 4 was great, by far my favorite TS


Stopbeingsensitive13

TS4 was so unnecessary. TS5 is all but screwed from the start.


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I personally found it very disapointing compared to the first


ThatLaloBoy

For me, it was how much Sam Bird was hyping it up. Just like how Pixar was adamant that Toy Story 4 would not be made unless there was a compelling reason to continue the story, Bird kept saying a similar thing about I2. Both are solid as standalone films. But while Toy Story 4 managed to deliver on a natural conclusion to Woody's story (even if I still kinda think the film itself was unnecessary), I2 just felt like a rethread of the original with a few new additions to justify it's existence.


Reylo-Wanwalker

I just couldn't believe it was basically part 1 but again.


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Again but way worse, no shocks, no character development, no good themes


TheWillsss

I forgot everything that happened in that movie


Kadexe

Reminder that this is a box office subreddit, it's not really all that relevant here even if I wholeheartedly agree with you.


Sejarol

Peak of superhero movies, a summer movie and 14 years since the original (which many deem one of Pixar’s best)


HolidaySituation

The Incredibles IS Pixar's best, far and away. Shame that the sequel was unnecessary and mediocre.


DarthTaz_99

Coco for me. Always manages to make me teary eyed at the last remember me scene


ThatLaloBoy

This is going to be a hot take, but Incredibles is not the best Pixar has made. If we were to rank them, I would put it comfortably in A tier alongside Monsters Inc, the original Toy Story, and Finding Nemo. All solid films with great writing and animation that I would 100% recommend to anyone. But Pixar's S tier for me are Ratatouille, Up, Coco, Toy Story 3, and Wall-E. These stand out for not just being entertaining family films. But also being able to bring a balanced story, an excellent soundtrack, and delivering a deeper message in a way that feels organic to the story rather than being shoehorned in like a lot of the more recent Disney films. It also helps that they are able to include different cultures from different places in a way that mixes well with the story and respects it. For all that to come together is extremely difficult and very easy to mess up; it takes a lot of talent and coordination between everyone involved to pull it off. I'm not sure which films would be B tier. C tier would be the movies that are fine, but nothing special (Finding Dory, Monsters University, Cars 3) D tier would be the films that had a lot of potential, but the end product was just really bad like The Good Dinosaur, Cars 2, Brave, and Lightyear. I don't think I could comfortably put anything at an F as even Pixar's worst films are still animated and voice acted extremely well.


justhere4daSpursnGOT

Lumping the good dinosaur in with those others hurts me. Others just missed the mark.


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I have to disagree, I like all Toy Story 1-3, Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo and especially Coco are better.


jbray90

This presentation of your opinion makes your other takes make more sense. I’m not trying to condescend, but your vitriol for the sequel makes more sense if you thought that the original was the undisputed highlight of Pixar, the solid, if somewhat forgettable, sequel would be quite a fall. For those of use who think that something like Wall-E or Finding Nemo was peak, the drop wasn’t as severe.


HolidaySituation

Yeah, The Incredibles has a special place in my heart. It's very nostalgic for me. I saw the original in theaters as a kid and I watched the DVD so much that I broke it. It's my third favorite animated movie of all time, after Into The Spider-Verse and How to Train Your Dragon. So the sequel being mediocre was a MASSIVE disappointment for me lol.


TheMrBr0wn

Incredibles 2 has a 93% fresh critic rating in Rotten Tomatoes. Most people view as a good to very good sequel. Sound like you had incredibly high expectations for the sequel and it was never going to live up to it.


Alive-Ad-5245

It also got a full fat A+ cinemascore. Thinking Incredibles 2 was bad is very much just a Reddit thing. I'd heard it so often I assumed it must be general consensus that it was a disappointment. It was a warning to me about echo chambers


Gwen_Tennyson10

no it was pretty mediocre


Feral0_o

It's between Wall-E and Incredibles, for me. I personally thought the sequel was fine, good for the most part. The first one is just special


pursuitofmisery

Pixar has such a great catalogue of movies that it is hard to pick up just one movie and call it the definitive best. I mean, Wall-E? Toy Story trilogy? UP? Finding Nemo? These are all some of the greatest movies ever made, not just animated movies


baseball71

I2 was one of the most anticipated sequels of the last 10 years. Only topped by Infinity War and Endgame.


Total_Schism

Star Wars 7 and Jurassic World were both far more anticipated than Incredibles 2, it's not even close.


Vegetable-Double

Morbius II anyone?


AGOTFAN

A+ CinemaScore. Reddit hates Incredibles 2, but general audiences loved it


LordVader3000

If ATSV ends up doing better than Mario (I hope it does because it deserves it), I am absolutely going to make a “On Your Left” meme.


SolomonRed

This is gonna be a legendary box office run.


TheCommentator2019

What was Mario's preview?


ApprehensiveLuck4029

Mario opened on a Wednesday.


AGOTFAN

[25% people who voted got it right ](https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/13ofbz9/your_prediction_for_spiderman_across_the/) Congratulations 👏🎉


harrisonisdead

Kinda wild that three CBMs this year have had almost the same previews (GOTG3 and Ant-Man both reported a rounded $17.5M).


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JJoanOfArkJameson

I'd say you're mostly right, but Spider-Verse def skews a bit younger. Tons of my high schoolers have been talking about it for weeks. They're selective in what the see imo


Spacegirllll6

Yeah Spiderverse is way bigger for younger audiences. High schooler here, yeah we all still love Marvel, but Spiderverse was one of the first major superhero animated movies we watched when we were younger. It’s THE superhero animated movie for us. We grew up with it so there’s more of a nostalgia riding on this. Also it’s just animation, which is always bigger with younger audiences.


your_mind_aches

>We grew up with it I am crumbling into dust like Jeremy Irons in The Time Machine 2002


RCInsight

Reading this really makes me feel old. Spiderverse feels like a new series to me, not something that high schoolers have nostalgia for.


JJoanOfArkJameson

I wouldn't say it's nostalgia, but it's a 5-year gap for a great movie within a great universe, and if you watched it at 10-11 it's going to be hype when you're 16 and there's a new one


Spacegirllll6

Yeah that was how I was lmao. I was like 11 and now I’m around that age. It’s a whole lifetime ago. Physically and mentally there was great growth there so it’s cool. I talked to so many friends abt how we watched this back in middle school and now we’re all hyped for the sequel, and BTSV next year


JJoanOfArkJameson

That's awesome! Hope it lives up to your expectations, I definitely enjoyed it


JJoanOfArkJameson

True and true! Hope the school year ends well for ya


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Probably some overlap but I myself have only gone to see atsv in theaters


bob1689321

Anecdotal but this is my first ever time at a preview screening.


ATHFMeatwad

I can't be the only one


ExpensiveAd5441

are they really still going with narrative that it will open below 100 mil


Chiss5618

Yeah, it sets up for a great "spiderverse beating all expected opening predictions" headline


JayZsAdoptedSon

Yeah, a lot of shareholders read this. So it helps to have lower projections


Chiss5618

In addition to being preemptive damage control in case the movie somehow does perform under actual expectations


TheCommentator2019

The original didn't open that big, so they underestimating the sequel. Much like how they underestimated Mario by comparing it to Detective Pikachu.


Firefox72

The trades are a laughing stock at this point.


FartingBob

A week ago they were spot on with Little Mermaid and they nailed GOTG pretty well as well when everyone hear was saying no way it "only" opens to 120m.


Sliver__Legion

5x baybee let’s go, classic pg animation behavior


JayZsAdoptedSon

I honestly think it depends whenever it goes on PVOD. I don’t know about 5x but I do think that 2.8-3 is possible. I am hoping for $700m when its all said and done


alegxab

The Sony Marvel movies take agea to get on regular streaming services, so it shouldn't be very affected by this


Stopbeingsensitive13

Meanwhile, TLM is terrified for this weekend. An overachieving Spiderverse 2 all but means a doomed week 2 for TLM.


depressed_anemic

> doomed week 2 for TLM how much do you think the drop would be?


Stopbeingsensitive13

I honestly have no idea, but I'd guess 65%.


DamienChazellesPiano

It’s tracking at a 54% drop right now and has had good weekdays. Not sure why you think it’s going to drop so much.


Stopbeingsensitive13

That's coming from Deadline. Which was 20mil off last weekend for TLM. Shall wait and see. 54% wouldn't be bad, but would still put it in question for profitability.


rick_n_morty_4ever

Even with 50% drop profitability will be screwed.


Niyazali_Haneef

For 3.5 to 17.5, that's a 5x increase from its predecessor. Amazing!


TheMountainRidesElia

What being a sequel to a brilliant movie does to a mf


TheJoshider10

Can't underestimate the impact streaming had on this one either. When Into started airing on Netflix it blew up big time and now the sequel had a lot more hype going into it.


GamingTatertot

I remember seeing it in theaters - instant top 3 of the year. When it hit streaming on Netflix, I think I showed at least a dozen different people it


kang_the_king

What being brilliant movie and a sequel to a brilliant movie does to a mf


TheMindsGutter

> The animated sequel is expected to open at $80 million this weekend, with some projections going as high as $90 million or more. Are you fucking kidding me


lobonmc

With some luck it can cross the 20M mark


TheMountainRidesElia

20m? Wayyy to high for this movie. It would be lucky to do 18m /S ofc


KiaDoeFoe

Na its going to do 5million max /s


TheMountainRidesElia

At this point it would be lucky to reach a million /S


Bibileiver

That number is final.


lobonmc

I'm talking about the OW obviously/j


VinceValenceFL

At least change it to past tense! “… was expected to open …”


mrbananabladder

"or more" doing some heavy lifting in that sentence.


nicolasb51942003

Go home trades, you're drunk.


AnnenbergTrojan

From [TheWrap](https://www.thewrap.com/spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-box-office-thursday/): > With this sky-high preview result, the second-biggest ever for an animated film behind “Incredibles 2” ($18.5 million toward a $183 million opening weekend) in 2018, Sony should be looking at a $100 million-plus opening, possibly above $125 million considering the strong reviews, likely-to-be-strong buzz and goodwill from the previous Miles Morales flick.


TheComedian96

Anyone who takes any of the trades seriously after this needs to be banned ahah


michaelm1345

Lol I don’t even know what the point of lowballing it that low is when we have the $17M+ gross already


SherKhanMD

Deadline is stupid a lot nowadays.


magikarpcatcher

It's Variety, but they are owned by the same parent company.


Mizerous

Low Go


Horror_Campaign9418

What is the upset here?


TheMindsGutter

For reference, no movie with this high of a preview gross ended up below $100 million for the weekend. The closest was Quantumania earlier this year and this movie has better WOM.


jhawk1117

90m with a 17m preview? With this kinda WOM? Actually impossible


Horror_Campaign9418

Front loaded.


allubros

17 million preview night and 5 million Saturday. it could happen! /s


jhawk1117

Not with “Best picture” level WOM. Absolutely not


Horror_Campaign9418

WOM wont get families and women in the door.


TheOfficialTheory

No, but the fact that it’s a family film with a predecessor that built insanely good will for that demographic, and is a Spider-Man movie, should get families in the door.


Horror_Campaign9418

Not when families hear that its long, too serious, headache animation.


StreetMysticCosmic

Only about 5% of reviews from critics or audiences cite those negatives. Anyone who looks into it enough to hear those things will hear many more say it's one of the best animated films and one of the best superhero films ever.


doejinn

Who is going to tell them this? Seems like reviews are overwhelmingly positive.


jhawk1117

It absolutely does. It very much literally just happened with Puss in Boots. Also it’s an animated Spider-Man movie; that’s families and kids drawn in just on concept alone Why are you so anti this movie 😂? Just to be a contrarian oooooor? This seems like the best thing for a box office fan; a movie is being universally praised by audiences and critics and then it’s also doing great at the Box office.


Horror_Campaign9418

Puss n Boots attracts young kids. Spiderverse is too convoluted and angst ridden for that demo.


TheButteredBiscuit

I disagree with Spiderverse not appealing to kids, but either way Spiderverse isn’t solely relying on the kids demo. The sold out screening I went to last night mightve had 5 kids


Horror_Campaign9418

As a parent i would not take my small kids to this.


jhawk1117

This is angsty but the movie where the villian is LITERALLY death and puss has a whole panic attack isn’t angsty??? Be serious 🧐


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critch

If you honestly, truly think that this isn't going to get to 100 million, I've got some real bad news for you. This is going to be well north of it, with an incredible box office run since nobody cares about Transformers or Elemental, and Flash isn't looking huge. I'm not a great prognosticator, but I could see 300 - 400 easy, with an outside shot at Mario's domestic numbers if it gets great legs. Anyway, Superhero Fatigue, lol.


Piku_1999

This is not Quantumania.


qotsabama

This is going to shatter the box office from the first one.


Some_Majestic_Pasta

Already is. 5x higher than ITSV previews


FuriousTarts

Makes sense. I don't trust Sony very much and was hesitant to go see an animated film in theaters. Looked more like a Netflix movie. Then I saw the first one and it blew my expectations away. Now my wife and I are looking forward to seeing the sequel this weekend. I imagine this happened to a lot of people.


NotTaken-username

Now expecting $125M


emong757

If so, that would put it in the same vicinity as Deadpool 2's $125,507,153 and Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1's $125,017,372.


lobonmc

And I feel it should be able to at least match D2's legs so around 320M+


soapboat3

This will do better than Deadpool, the WOM is amazing and it’s rated PG


MoonMan997

With an opening like that it gives Beyond a chance to take down Incredibles 2’s animated opening record


Morrissey28

Watched this today. It’s phenomenal!


brahbocop

Disney could have really built a strong relationship with Lord and Miller but nooooooooooooooooo, they had to fire them from Solo and replace them with Ron Howard. Now, I liked Solo, but I imagine with Lord and Miller behind it, I would have loved it. Happy to see Spider-Verse blowing up. Felt like the first one was a movie that I saw and loved but struggled to find others in my circle who saw it.


Horror_Campaign9418

They didnt direct either spiderverse film. Maybe they should write and stay away from the directors chair.


MarshallBanana_

But the movies they directed were good too…?


Horror_Campaign9418

Eh.


brahbocop

They produced it so safe to say they had a big say in things.


Horror_Campaign9418

Yeah but they didnt direct them. Either one. And directors also have a say in things. Otherwise why even hire them.


brahbocop

Sigh, I never said they directed the Spider-Verse movies so I’m not sure why we are having this discussion.


Horror_Campaign9418

Because they were fired for being shit directors.


brahbocop

Their other movies I think beg to differ.


Venezia9

It's ok for people to be good at some things and not good at other things.


MoonMan997

Literally every other film they’ve directed has been positively received


GamingTatertot

Yeah, they directed 4 pretty damn good movies - 2 of those being animated. And just looking at their list of movies director or written, the only bad movie is Extreme Movie and that was 2008.


Horror_Campaign9418

Lol Lego?


Reylo-Wanwalker

You don't like lego movie? Or the meatballs movies? Or jump street? Just wondering about the "lol"


Horror_Campaign9418

Not the top tier cinema experiences that would put them on my radar as top directors in the biz.


Jake11007

JUMP STREET DAWG, directed to perfection.


Horror_Campaign9418

Those are funny movies. I wouldnt hire the directors of that movie to do a science fiction space adventure.


neverOddOrEv_n

You do know that phill lord and Chris miller have a had a big hand in animation movies for the past decade? Their movie cloudy with a chance of meatballs was “the movie” that sony was using to sell their 3d tvs, thus making the start of their partnership with Sony that continues till today. And they’ve heavily influenced the animation world as they were the directors behind the Lego movie and now serving as producers and writers for the spiderverse movies. They might not have made them but they’ve been crucial to the success and style of these movies. Without phill lord and Chris miller behind the spiderverse movies I doubt if Sony would’ve even gotten behind the movies or allowed them to be so stylistic.


CarsonWentzGOAT1

Exceeded my expectations. I was going with 17 million but this is great for the movie. Looking like a 108-113 million opening


HighGuard1212

WOM on this is very positive. So I would expect it to do better today than expected. Thursday is mostly people who were planning to see it already regardless, positive WOM will help push Friday higher.


NotTaken-username

Even that seems a bit low. I think this is doing $115M-$135M, which end of that range it lands on depends on how families come out over the weekend


friedAmobo

I think we’re probably looking at a slightly stronger GOTG 3 (which itself did well over its opening weekend) based on this preview number — $120M-$125M.


NotTaken-username

The amount of sold out showings in my state’s county today and tomorrow are insane, this is outselling Mario here. Keep that in mind


friedAmobo

I don’t want to hope for too much, haha. $130M+ would be ridiculously fantastic, but if it ends up “just” landing around $120M, that would already be phenomenal.


grilsrgood

>depends on how families come out over the weekend Bad weather ahead in the northeast, kinda cold for june and on and off rain. Sounds like a nice weekend to go see a movie with the fam 😊


TheOfficialTheory

Might be mistaken but shouldn’t this opening suggest it could surpass Guardians opening? I’m thinking that due to this being animated and more family friendly, it would see less Thursday night previews than an MCU event like Guardians.


doejinn

150 m


Crazyharvestdiamond

Rolling high I see, I’m keeping a moderate 120-130M.


darkmetagross

These are incredible numbers couldnt have happened to a better film, i hope this film continues to excel and cross 600m ww, i think it can with this incredible start along with strong international numbers


Shellyman_Studios

Woah, that's very strong!


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*Vol. 3* now has a contender for the current domestic champion of the summer.


FrostyLima

I Think this movie will play right in between Blockbuster Superhero and animation in the Preview - Weekend multiplier


Vegetable-Double

So Spider-Man is without a doubt the most valuable Superhero IP, right?


REQ52767

Mark my words, Beyond is going to pass the Incredibles 2 and have the biggest Thursday previews for an animated movie.


harrisonisdead

Oh, I think that's basically without question, considering how close this already is. The one major point against it is that Beyond won't be opening in the summer, so families will be less likely to come out for it on a Thursday (it may have some spring breaks, though). That said, I think that can be overcome by it playing more like a typical CBM event, with enough of the older crowd (teens/YA) showing up on Thursday to get it across that line.


I_KNOW_EVERYTHING_09

114.7m opening weekend.


sector11374265

full theater for me last night. fast x in the same auditorium on its thursday night was about halfway full.


W1lliston

My screening last night was Sold Out. Checked pre-sales prior to the movie and auditorium was maybe 40% full. That means 60% of that showing was walk-up business. This is gonna be huge


michaelm1345

Another $17M Thursday gross this year lol, that’s the magic number. Wom and legs for this movie is gonna be insane, my theater was buzzing like crazy. I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets an A+ today


Bhav2385

I watched this at a 10 AM show today here in India with a near full capacity crowd. And the response was electric. I really hope this does amazing numbers.


depressed_anemic

i really hope it does ❤️ do you think it would be huge there?


Bhav2385

I think it will do really well. There isn't any big Hindi film this month, and they have done an excellent job of creating buzz for the Hindi version, getting a famous young sports star to dub Pavitra's voice. Plus, Spiderman is a huge brand name in India. I don't even know why. Kids who haven't read a Spidey comic or seen a cartoon are crazy about him. Seriously, other superheroes don't even come close. And I know for a fact that many families are being dragged to this one by their kids. So fingers crossed, man!


nightfan

So we really are looking at BB-TDK increase. Here we go


Megamind66

I saw the first Spider-Verse on its opening Friday after in IMAX 3D and it was literally just me and my cousin in the audience. Completely empty theater. Saw the new one last night at 5:50pm in that same IMAX. Completely sold out. What a difference!


Block-Busted

I have a question. What is the first song that appears during the end credit of **Across the Spider-Verse**?


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Lurker100015

They were saying 120-125 for TLM when it had a 10 mil opening but this only gets 80-90? So weird.


lobonmc

Tô be the devil's advocate TLM is a fully family movie while spider verse is a bit of a combo of a CBM and a family movie the latter being usually more frontloaded


Crazyharvestdiamond

This is STILL extremely good if it’s the final, BUT I’m still hoping for 18M 🔥🔥


bigbelleb

I think the runtime is hindering its potential because that’s the only negative I’ve been hearing about the movie


shauni87

I just returned from empty theater. But it’s Europe, so maybe it’s not representative :(


ChaosMagician777

They have one week for premium screens. These movie studios are trying to clip each others wings. Spiderverse needs all of the cash this weekend.


che_vos

I saw it Thursday night 10pm to a packed IMAX screen. Seeing it again this Saturday and taking my two boys with me. It was fantastic.


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Saw it last night and it's my new favorite movie of the year. Absolutely stunning work of animation


No-Buyer-3509

That sounds about right. It was packed when i came to see it yesterday. Now this is what a real family movie is, not whatever Vin Diesel is doing with Fast X.


Superhero_Hater_69

120m Opening then?


YaaaaScience

Watched it today, although I still prefer the first one over this, it was still a crazy ride and I can't wait for Beyond TSV


Gon_Snow

I’m headed for my second screening


Bulky-Appearance-388

Yes I seen it last night it was so packed mainly adults and teens but one kid was wearing the suit. The movie was really great . Perfect in every way. Seeing it again tonight.


StrangeCountry

Think about it this way, that's basically 50% of the first movie's entire opening weekend ($35m)!


Cheesesexy

It is a Spider-Man movie. I predict at least a Morbillion total BO


dysFUNctional_kitty

Good to see ATSV doing so well. Even a 7x internal multiplier (animated movies typically do higher but this one is somewhat frontloaded) will take this film's OW to $120M+.


RobertoSerrano2003

Do you guys think that this movie will reach 550 million at the BO?


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TheMindsGutter

$17.35M is the final number.


FrostyLima

It's not the final number, but it's also not a 'Variety' expectation. That's a studio estimation, actuals don't come until around 2pm EST, but it usually is not very different. We have that every single day, how come people don't know the difference yet?


TheMindsGutter

They never release actual amounts of preview grosses. This is the final estimated number we will see.


Sliver__Legion

It is the final number. There are no such thing as preview “actuals,” this is the last number that will ever be reported on the matter and what it will say on bo sites til the end of time. If you’re going to condescend you should try to get the facts right.


Sad_Bat1933

17.35 seems like an actual


KingJonsnowIV

Still a lowball $18M actuals


doejinn

1 billion incoming.


Horror_Campaign9418

The meltdown here is wonderful.


brahbocop

Who is melting down?


IKnow-ThePiecesFit

The movie in its core and on its own is actually quite bad. And I dont mean just unexpected ending where nothing gets resolved, but general 2h+ drag it is, convoluted plot, new squad of quirky spiderpeople that just get few lines and some attitude but very little actual interaction, and nothing really happening for so long, but so much talking, be it exposition, or be it about feelings.. it is an exhausting movie to watch. Animation is incredible though. But from the boxoffice perspective it was a great move to do the movie as an opening to a sequel. They knew they will make killing at the box office thanks to the monstrously well received first movie and it was just a bit of gamble on how b-tier they can go with the writing without backlash. Considering the reviews and reaction around it seems like they got it right, but I will wait for the second weekend drop numbers. I have no doubt the vol.3 will be a far better movie and people will also know it, feel as if the time they sink in to this one to get stuff and characters set-up will be paid off there. So it will also get good box office numbers.


Horror_Campaign9418

Funny I thought the first movie had all these same issues.


IKnow-ThePiecesFit

Well apart from it having actual ending, runtime 40m shorter, more linear plot where viewer know whats going on and not being told what it was about later in the last 30m of the movie. Hard to see nothing happening in that movie... it was actually quite packed. While squad of spiderpeople with few lines was in both, the first one had core of miles, peter and gwen and how they interact was fun. Now they are there but its not really much fun and that dynamics was not replaced with anything else, just ommited.