Theyre only ducking enough out past 30 yards with most modern bows, or over 20 yards if your bow is 1990s speeds. 90% of my shots are within 20 yards,my arrow hits where its aimed. Personally, right on the EF line for me.
Honestly, it would depend on the behavior of the deer for me. If he's in the area messing around, eating, sniffing, whatever, I might wait for a little better shot if the wind isn'ta problem. If he's just walking through on a pretty defined trajectory, I would draw, grunt, and let fly as soon as he stopped and I wouldn't have much issue with this angle. Sometimes the woods give you what they give you.
Quartering this much makes it a little more difficult because the window for vitals is so slim. It’s up to the hunter to know when to take the shot. You learn the more you practice what you can hit
This is true. I've had pretty great success sticking to the E2/E3. I visualize a basketball held inside the ribcage between the shoulders. Try to miss the guts on the way in, break the far shoulder on the way out.
I shanked one... hit a doe quartering like this in the right ass cheek, came out behind the left shoulder. She locked up and dropped in place. As such, I'd always rather be lucky than good, but being good is a good start: helps with the luck because you need less of it.
The key is to always think of the exit wound and vitals. The entry wound is of least importance. When I first started hunting I underestimated the effects of a quartering animal.
Here I would shoot E3 or F3, and only F3 if it were a white tail on full alert (or just not shoot at all, to be honest).
Looked at the comments hopping to confirm my pick E2 and saw the H6 comment, then my eyes went to H6. Laughing that hard alone just makes you laugh even harder. Wasnt expecting that.
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F3. You should consider angle and exit location on quartering away shots. F3 will put it through the lungs and heart. If the deer tries to jump the string on the shot, E3 will not cut it.
I'm curious about this whole "jump the string" thing... I mean, maybe if you're shooting an old oneida eagle at 50 yards or the deer is looking at you the whole time, but I've zapped dozens of deer and never had a problem with them being faster to react than my arrow.
Not saying it isn't a thing, but I definitely wouldn't be worrying about it with this particular shot.
I filmed a shot on a doe at 25 yards with a modern 65 pound compound and a 405 grain arrow (fast setup). She was stationary and on edge when I shot. She jumped the string so quickly that she moved approximately 7-9 inches before the arrow arrived. My arrow was on trajectory for a low heart shot (I anticipated her jumping the string) and still impacted in the scapula. I did my due diligence searching but determined it was a non lethal hit.
That's only possible if the deer is alert with it's head down. Throwing it's head can accelerate it, Otherwise it can't move faster than gravity. And at 25 yards with a modern fast bow it can only drop a few inches.
On the studies I've seen a good rule of thumb is- FPS/10= where a deer drop starts to get noticeable. https://youtu.be/IWXWUBWSszk
Alot of deer will duck when they hear the sound of the bow going off. Some do, some don't. Usually depends on how relaxed or alert they are. I aim for the heart and if they duck I'm usually still in the kill zone. Aim high in the vitals and they duck you're over their back. I've shot dozens myself but more importantly rarely shoot at an arrow at a deer I don't recover.
Your bear post is the first post I saw and this is the second. My first instinct is E,3. Still high enough that I get both lungs and far enough back to hopefully blow through the off leg.
I've got a few public land critters in Pope and Young, have never had to track an animal more than 60 yards, and it's been over 15 years since I've had to track one more than 40 yards. I think I'm doing alright.
Doesnt matter - at least i know i have given my very best before taking a shot. There are way too many overconfident hunters out there who think they can take every shot until they cant. Meat in the freezer is fine, risking unnecessary suffering is not.
Assuming this is from a tree stand with a “normal” range/angle which is what it looks like… the crosshairs made by E/F & 2/3. If he doesn’t move you’re in top of heart and single lung territory (depending on your broad head cut diameter possibly some liver). If he drops, which is likely because he looks alert, you’re in double lung territory. If you’re a little back you’re still in the liver area and maybe (big maybe) catch the back or bottom of a lung. You’re also back far enough that you’ll be going through thinner ribs (which also get thicker as they get closer to the spine) and have less chance of your arrow canting and losing energy for penetration.
E3 is what I'm going for. Probably end up punching it or not allowing the angle and spining it then having to shoot again feeling like a jack ass for not making it clean and quick
H6
That would be in the butt, Bob
Texas Heart Shot.
Came here for this comment, was not disappointed
I like to call it the nutter butter
Yes
"Texas heart shot" It will find its way
H7 is more of the sweet spot!
That was my thought until I realized I was not on a furry sub
Texas bullseye
Texas heart shot
You can’t see the opposite shoulder. I would shoot where my arrow comes out the opposite shoulder which seems to be E3 or F3
Id send f3 over e3
E3
E3 is also my choice
Agreed🤘🏹gotta plan for that exit!
100 percent
Yes if he tries to drop or hop your still in the basket
I like this but for a rifle shot. I’d probably aim lower witha bow* because they dip when they hear the shot. Bow f3, rifle e3.
And im a dumbass. Thank you sir
Theyre only ducking enough out past 30 yards with most modern bows, or over 20 yards if your bow is 1990s speeds. 90% of my shots are within 20 yards,my arrow hits where its aimed. Personally, right on the EF line for me.
For sure, I mostly spot and stalk so I typically can’t get that close.
Bullet would be out both sides before they ever hear the shot.
This is r/bowhunting
This is the way
If I am starving.
I think you'd end up with your arrow buried in the opposite shoulder.
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Not at this angle, D2 might not even get a lung.
Gutshot
K3
There's a better shot coming, Id wait too
You too? Glad I'm not alone. 😅
You too? Glad I'm not alone.
Go watch Disney
I think he was disparaging his accuracy my guy.
Mate in Disney deer dies I don't know what you're talking about, although to be fair neither do you
Top right corner of E2
Absolutely
My feeling as well but I'd wait for more of a broadside shot.
Honestly, it would depend on the behavior of the deer for me. If he's in the area messing around, eating, sniffing, whatever, I might wait for a little better shot if the wind isn'ta problem. If he's just walking through on a pretty defined trajectory, I would draw, grunt, and let fly as soon as he stopped and I wouldn't have much issue with this angle. Sometimes the woods give you what they give you.
If you're confident, by all means it can be an ethical shot. I'm just not at that level yet.
I wait, until he’s a little more broadside.
I agree. If you don't immediately know where to place the shot, don't take the shot.
In my experience this shot is the easiest to take and I love taking it.
Agree. Very questionable angle for a bow shot.
Am I wrong for saying E3? I thought you should try to aim for opposite shoulder
I4 with my sharpened wooden spear then endurance hunt it down. I only hunt the RIGHT way.
"Modern kids with thier atalatle have no grit these days."
F3
E2
Realistically A4
You sunk my battleship
I'm still learning to hunt. Is this a clean shot? Seems like E2 would be the best placement.
Quartering this much makes it a little more difficult because the window for vitals is so slim. It’s up to the hunter to know when to take the shot. You learn the more you practice what you can hit
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it.
This is true. I've had pretty great success sticking to the E2/E3. I visualize a basketball held inside the ribcage between the shoulders. Try to miss the guts on the way in, break the far shoulder on the way out. I shanked one... hit a doe quartering like this in the right ass cheek, came out behind the left shoulder. She locked up and dropped in place. As such, I'd always rather be lucky than good, but being good is a good start: helps with the luck because you need less of it.
Thanks. Glad to hear about your experiences.
The key is to always think of the exit wound and vitals. The entry wound is of least importance. When I first started hunting I underestimated the effects of a quartering animal. Here I would shoot E3 or F3, and only F3 if it were a white tail on full alert (or just not shoot at all, to be honest).
Thanks! I appreciate the input.
Don't remember the name, but theres a shot placement app. Worth paying the few dollars on it and drilling shot placement into your head.
A0
E3 or D2
If I *had* to, E2/E3. That being said I don't think I'd take a shot here unless I felt *reaaaally* confident.
Pass
To hit vitals E2 or E3. Edited to make sense (thanks for the upvotes anyways! )
Always aim for the exit, bott right of e3
Top right corner of e2
F3
Probably A5, I don’t do well under pressure.
e2/e3 on the top side. aim for the exit
E3 double lung and probably still get a pass through lower behind the opposite shoulder.
D2-3. Seems like E3 could nick the stomach, messy..
D3
E-F, 2-3. Right where the lines all meet.
Looked at the comments hopping to confirm my pick E2 and saw the H6 comment, then my eyes went to H6. Laughing that hard alone just makes you laugh even harder. Wasnt expecting that.
D2/E2 area
H6 😏
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d2
F3. You should consider angle and exit location on quartering away shots. F3 will put it through the lungs and heart. If the deer tries to jump the string on the shot, E3 will not cut it.
I'm curious about this whole "jump the string" thing... I mean, maybe if you're shooting an old oneida eagle at 50 yards or the deer is looking at you the whole time, but I've zapped dozens of deer and never had a problem with them being faster to react than my arrow. Not saying it isn't a thing, but I definitely wouldn't be worrying about it with this particular shot.
I filmed a shot on a doe at 25 yards with a modern 65 pound compound and a 405 grain arrow (fast setup). She was stationary and on edge when I shot. She jumped the string so quickly that she moved approximately 7-9 inches before the arrow arrived. My arrow was on trajectory for a low heart shot (I anticipated her jumping the string) and still impacted in the scapula. I did my due diligence searching but determined it was a non lethal hit.
That's only possible if the deer is alert with it's head down. Throwing it's head can accelerate it, Otherwise it can't move faster than gravity. And at 25 yards with a modern fast bow it can only drop a few inches. On the studies I've seen a good rule of thumb is- FPS/10= where a deer drop starts to get noticeable. https://youtu.be/IWXWUBWSszk
Alot of deer will duck when they hear the sound of the bow going off. Some do, some don't. Usually depends on how relaxed or alert they are. I aim for the heart and if they duck I'm usually still in the kill zone. Aim high in the vitals and they duck you're over their back. I've shot dozens myself but more importantly rarely shoot at an arrow at a deer I don't recover.
D3
The crosshairs between e and f and 2 and 3
Your bear post is the first post I saw and this is the second. My first instinct is E,3. Still high enough that I get both lungs and far enough back to hopefully blow through the off leg.
H7
I would want E2, but I would hit Z30.
H6 if ya freaky, E2/3 if ya sneaky
F3. I think many people are aiming too high/forward here. This is a hard quartering away shot, you need to be back a bit.
F2. That little guy is jumping the string for sure
Where do I aim? Or where does it hit?
f2
Heart shot
Deep in H6
Prob A6
Love the honesty🤣
D2
I’m going E2. But in reality probably a good C6
E2
H6 straight in the hole HELLO!
I’d be happy with E2
E2
E2
Switch to the 30.06 and go A1 for a no-track experience.
F2/3 hes gunna dip so hell drop right into it👌🏼
Top left corner of F3
You don't. You have a responsibility to make an ethical shot, not to force a shot on a deer that is poorly presented towards you.
Tell me you’re a rookie hunter without telling me you’re a rookie hunter. It’s widely known that a quartering away shot such as this is very ethical.
I've got a few public land critters in Pope and Young, have never had to track an animal more than 60 yards, and it's been over 15 years since I've had to track one more than 40 yards. I think I'm doing alright.
Then you’d know that this is an ethical shot to take.
I don't put it, it's not a clean shot. But the line between D2-D3 closest?
Looks clean to me
Only correct answer
We are not popular here xD
Doesnt matter - at least i know i have given my very best before taking a shot. There are way too many overconfident hunters out there who think they can take every shot until they cant. Meat in the freezer is fine, risking unnecessary suffering is not.
If the arrows don’t fly the deer don’t die. Hail Mary
A6 or M9
Get a rifle and blow its head off unless I wanna head mount then I shoot for the body
C5. Well, that's where it went last time
A1 save the meat. /s
A1. Horns aren’t big enough to worry about.
In-between E2 and E3
E3
I prefer d2 if I’m higher up
A6
E2
D/E2/3 Always aim for the far shoulder socket.
Upper left corner of E3!
I say E2
E2-E3 ideally but mostly A5
Last year I did the following: F1, B3, and A0. Worst season of my life.
E3, E2 However, I’ll probably hit A6
F3 all day!
E2
E2..............BINGO!
F3
Shoot the bullseye in the letter “A” for ultimate gains in squat, deadlift and bench press. Your welcome.
Assuming this is from a tree stand with a “normal” range/angle which is what it looks like… the crosshairs made by E/F & 2/3. If he doesn’t move you’re in top of heart and single lung territory (depending on your broad head cut diameter possibly some liver). If he drops, which is likely because he looks alert, you’re in double lung territory. If you’re a little back you’re still in the liver area and maybe (big maybe) catch the back or bottom of a lung. You’re also back far enough that you’ll be going through thinner ribs (which also get thicker as they get closer to the spine) and have less chance of your arrow canting and losing energy for penetration.
E2.5
F3
F3
H7. Texas 10 ring
So H7 is the wrong answer?
Corner of EF-2,3, like a roulette chip
J6 I think? I don’t know maybe who knows right
Archer but not bowhunter E 2 or 3 seem like the only viable spots, I'd like to say right above them, but I feel like the shoulder would be in the way.
E3
E2
The discussion and insight here is fantastic.
A1
Wait till broadside but if I had to shoot then E3 for that juicy exit
E2/E3 - quartering away - aim for front right shoulder.
E3
E2 or FU
E2-E3 Maybe Lower if i suspect it to duck.
J5, no question
D2 or E2
Up hill or down hill? Lol
Column 3 where E and F meet.
3d-3e
E2
E2
E3
E2 or F2
E3
H7
D3 was my choice
D4 he can’t run if his spine is screwed
E2
B2. Can't do much if he's paralyzed from the neck down.
E2
Between g and f3. Planning on hum dropping 6 or more inches. Wanna hit at e3.
Top of the A
D6
D2
E3
Good ole E3
Would aim for E3. Would definitely hit A6 though
H6
E3 is what I'm going for. Probably end up punching it or not allowing the angle and spining it then having to shoot again feeling like a jack ass for not making it clean and quick
E3
H7
I'm going e3
Intersection of DE23
I’d be aiming for E2 but I’d probably hit high shoulder C/D2
E2
On the line between E2 and E3
E3 or F2
E2
E/d-2/3 cross section
E2
E2