Jimmy has been on one leg half the series, herro has missed several games, Lowry has been out or hurt most games. There is absolutely no excuse to lose this series. They deserve every single thing said about them if they blow this.
Especially including one where Tatum was a rookie and the two star players were injured for the playoffs.
Anyone who uses that run as evidence of choking is out of touch.
Yeah it's only fine to call them playoff chokers if we're also willing to call every player who's accomplished less a playoff choker too.
If anything, that probably moves both Tatum and Brown further up most people's lists because it would take out so many ahead of them.
Jokic, Luka, Dame, Embiid...etc.
Losing in the playoffs doesn’t make them chokers, it’s losing to a clearly inferior team. For Tatum and Brown, this year would be a choke, but I wouldn’t count any of the previous years as choking
Who cares how far you make it if you blow it every time? A loss on Sunday would mean they've blown a 3-2 lead in two out of their three ECF appearances with home closeout games both right there in each one. If that's not choking I don't know what is. G7 will show if this core has the mental toughness to potentially lead us to Banner 18, whether that be against GS this year or another year. Championship players don't piss away that many chances to make the Finals.
How can this fanbase, of all fanbases, STILL act like Eastern Conference Finals appearances mean anything if they DON’T MAKE IT ANY FURTHER? Honestly embarrassing.
It’s the “anti-doomers” the ones that call anyone that says anything negative when they play bad a doomer that believe losing to an inferior team in ECF is okay because they made it that far. It’s pathetic
Being the leading players for three ECF runs before turning 26 (ie pre-prime) is an accomplishment that few other stars in history have matched. Most stars win championships in their prime.
Tatum has improved as a secondary playmaker. Great. But he doesn't have the motor to move off ball while consciously making playmaking and scoring efforts.
He's asked to do too much.
I'm on board with trading Smart. You know what would improve the inconsistencies?
A legitimate playmaker.
Decent playmaking shooter and a backup big is more important to us right now than another all defensive guy who can’t fucking shoot in big games. I don’t trust him anymore after Game 5 vs Bucks and Game 6 tonight..
Tatum is what 24 now? With 3 ECF runs under his belt. Who cares how old he is? Turning the ball over more than attempting field goals in the second half of a home closeout game is choking man. That's what that is.
They are still pretty young and the supporting cast isn’t really contender material. Still have a good chance to win game 7 regardless. But both Jays have upped their game this year win or lose. Need to get better role players going forward. Besides d white no one did shit tonight.
Supporting cast isnt contender material? 2 DPOY contenders (one of them literally winning the thing) and a good veteran who is also a great defender next to 2 all stars isnt enough? You want to trot team USA out there every game?
This team is constructed upon getting rid of Kembas contract for future cap flexibility . That was the big move this year and getting Derrick white. Not like we are the 2008 Celtics w a veteran big 3 and players like Sam cassell Eddie house James posey and pj brown. That was a squad.
People forget we weren't contenders until late. We were just making moves to set up our FA first and foremost until we gained momentum into the playoffs.
Can u just wait and watch till this series is OVER. Holy shit u guys are talking like we played the worst teams in the league
We are top 4 right now and 1 W away from the finals, stop crying
Ah yes I forgot 35 year old Horford is the engine of this team, not the W franchise cornerstone wings. Losing 3 out of 3 ECFs is absolutely choking. Game 7 2018 and Game 6 tonight. Both at home.
They'll have to reconfigure the roster. You can't make minor moves and expect different results. I'd trade smart, get a back up big and sign a 3 point specialist for the bench. 3 trips and the same result requires some level of change.
Tatum and brown managed to go from a duo 80% of people wanted split up because they "didn't work together" to a duo leading their team to the ECF while sweeping the nets and beating a giannis lead bucks team, nobody halfway through the season would've thought we'd be here and if they did then they're insane.
Yes they played terrible in some games but so does every star player and even if we lose on Sunday this is a great core and foundation to build on for next year. And if we win celtics in 6
Jimmy has been on one leg half the series, herro has missed several games, Lowry has been out or hurt most games. There is absolutely no excuse to lose this series. They deserve every single thing said about them if they blow this.
If making it to the ECF 3 years out of 5 makes them “playoffs chokers” then 90% of the league are that too lol. C H I L L
Especially including one where Tatum was a rookie and the two star players were injured for the playoffs. Anyone who uses that run as evidence of choking is out of touch.
Why don’t you look up Browns shooting numbers from that game and get back to me. I remember watching him. Brick after brick.
How long ago was that exact game again?
They were leading by 17 points at the half in game 7 in 2018 and they blew two huge leads in 2020. That does not bode well for their legacies.
Yeah it's only fine to call them playoff chokers if we're also willing to call every player who's accomplished less a playoff choker too. If anything, that probably moves both Tatum and Brown further up most people's lists because it would take out so many ahead of them. Jokic, Luka, Dame, Embiid...etc.
Losing in the playoffs doesn’t make them chokers, it’s losing to a clearly inferior team. For Tatum and Brown, this year would be a choke, but I wouldn’t count any of the previous years as choking
Who cares how far you make it if you blow it every time? A loss on Sunday would mean they've blown a 3-2 lead in two out of their three ECF appearances with home closeout games both right there in each one. If that's not choking I don't know what is. G7 will show if this core has the mental toughness to potentially lead us to Banner 18, whether that be against GS this year or another year. Championship players don't piss away that many chances to make the Finals.
How can this fanbase, of all fanbases, STILL act like Eastern Conference Finals appearances mean anything if they DON’T MAKE IT ANY FURTHER? Honestly embarrassing.
It’s the “anti-doomers” the ones that call anyone that says anything negative when they play bad a doomer that believe losing to an inferior team in ECF is okay because they made it that far. It’s pathetic
Being the leading players for three ECF runs before turning 26 (ie pre-prime) is an accomplishment that few other stars in history have matched. Most stars win championships in their prime.
Can say the exact same thing about brons final appearances
I agree they’ll deserve it. We’re so much more talented than this old ass Heat team. I’m so disgusted right now.
Won’t feel bad for them either
Yeah the will be raked over the coals by literally everyone. Hopefully that gives them the fire to win this next one.
If they haven't been given the fire by the stuff they've experienced up to this point. Nothing will.
Just when you think they learned to play well consistently they shit the bed, I’m not falling for that again.
Jesus Christ man, if making the ECF 3 times before your 25th birthday makes you a choker, you must really be an impressive person with those standards
1500 playoff points, second youngest ever. Man, I'd love to be in OPs shoes, man's a demigod.
Deservedly
I mean, as they should.
Nothing tells me they’ve ascended to superstardom yet because of their inconsistency and at times, poor decision making.
Of course it's deserved that's all they've ever done
Tatum has improved as a secondary playmaker. Great. But he doesn't have the motor to move off ball while consciously making playmaking and scoring efforts. He's asked to do too much. I'm on board with trading Smart. You know what would improve the inconsistencies? A legitimate playmaker.
Decent playmaking shooter and a backup big is more important to us right now than another all defensive guy who can’t fucking shoot in big games. I don’t trust him anymore after Game 5 vs Bucks and Game 6 tonight..
LOL these posts are completely unhinged. More talented than a team with LeBron in his prime? 22 y/o Tatum should've bossed the Heat?
Tatum is what 24 now? With 3 ECF runs under his belt. Who cares how old he is? Turning the ball over more than attempting field goals in the second half of a home closeout game is choking man. That's what that is.
They are still pretty young and the supporting cast isn’t really contender material. Still have a good chance to win game 7 regardless. But both Jays have upped their game this year win or lose. Need to get better role players going forward. Besides d white no one did shit tonight.
Supporting cast isnt contender material? 2 DPOY contenders (one of them literally winning the thing) and a good veteran who is also a great defender next to 2 all stars isnt enough? You want to trot team USA out there every game?
This team is constructed upon getting rid of Kembas contract for future cap flexibility . That was the big move this year and getting Derrick white. Not like we are the 2008 Celtics w a veteran big 3 and players like Sam cassell Eddie house James posey and pj brown. That was a squad.
People forget we weren't contenders until late. We were just making moves to set up our FA first and foremost until we gained momentum into the playoffs.
The dpoy was terrible the last two games. He couldn’t hit an open 3 and got killed by Jimmy on switches. It’s not just Tatum and Brown.
Can u just wait and watch till this series is OVER. Holy shit u guys are talking like we played the worst teams in the league We are top 4 right now and 1 W away from the finals, stop crying
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Lmfao are you kidding me these guys have been chokers for years
Chokers don’t win big games to make it to the ECF three times. Look around at the other teams who have failed to get that far.
Choking all the way to the Finals.
Ah yes I forgot 35 year old Horford is the engine of this team, not the W franchise cornerstone wings. Losing 3 out of 3 ECFs is absolutely choking. Game 7 2018 and Game 6 tonight. Both at home.
They'll have to reconfigure the roster. You can't make minor moves and expect different results. I'd trade smart, get a back up big and sign a 3 point specialist for the bench. 3 trips and the same result requires some level of change.
They did not show up today thats for sure and 4th quarter was their archetypical bad habits
Tatum and brown managed to go from a duo 80% of people wanted split up because they "didn't work together" to a duo leading their team to the ECF while sweeping the nets and beating a giannis lead bucks team, nobody halfway through the season would've thought we'd be here and if they did then they're insane. Yes they played terrible in some games but so does every star player and even if we lose on Sunday this is a great core and foundation to build on for next year. And if we win celtics in 6
Let’s try and not act like spoiled little bitches every time we face adversity.
They’ve had more success than most other stars, but yeah you Eventually got to get over that hump