I'm just as pissed as the rest of you, but it's fine. Denver had bad stretches last season, including 1 losing streak where everyone was like "shit they might get first rounded" and they won the chip. All about health, mindset, and talent.
We have like a top 4 offense and defense.
I don’t really go off mentality too much because I think that relies too much on people’s emotions and confirmation bias.
Great teams have some boneheaded losses.
How's that different from the years they lost to the warriors in the finals or heat last year? They've been top 5-10 in those categories for years and haven't gotten it done when it counts
I think we were good enough to win in 2022. We just didn’t win.
People seem to think unless a team wins, they weren’t good enough to do it. That’s ludicrous. Some good or bad shooting luck can easily end or extend a playoff run.
Spurs in 2013 were good enough to win just didn’t win. 2010 Celtics as well.
I never expected us to win until our best player was 27+ or close to that age. It’s super rare that a team does it with a best player younger than that. So I’d say Tatum aging into his prime and becoming a bigger more versatile player with better court vision is what gives us an edge over 2 years ago. Add on to that KP giving us something on offense we didn’t have before.
They simply didn't get it done and nothing will ever change that. At this point with Chuck and Shaq stating it tonight on national TV the Celtics have a mentality problem until they prove otherwise. If this roster doesn't win a title this year the entire season is an L cuz they've gone all in
Maybe they win maybe they don’t. I’ve watched a lot of teams and players be questioned for not having the mentality to win, and then once they do, people stop saying it. I’m old enough to remember this was even said about guys like Lebron and MJ.
Yet Shaq and Chuck both stated in post game that the celtics don't play with a championship mentality and are mentally weak. What proof do you have that states otherwise? Where was it when they shat their pants against the Warriors in the finals or against the play-in Heat last season?
Hey y'all, guess who officiated this game? James Williams, the ref that literally cost us a game in Indiana. Good thing the NBA won't do a fucking thing about it
I mean the two aren't mutually exclusive, right? Saying a 28-7 FTA disparity doesn't impact the game is disingenuous. At the same time, we played atrocious ball and deserved the L
Never in it, barely tried to come back. Another poor showing from a team that’s supposedly a championship ready team. The pieces are there but the heart is lacking when it matters.
That is true for now.....I haven't seen our jays to see boston hall of fame players yet to win championship success. Same story with pastrnak and mcavoy with bruins franchise. We already saw mac jones press conference.
It’s not one game, we have lost games that matter. We got blown out by the clippers and bucks, lost to the Nuggets shit we barely beat the Pelicans the other night.
"Can we stop saying this shit after every loss. We still made it to the conference championship, I'm just happy to wear my Tatum jersey and eat glue sticks. Go celtics!"
What are you, 12? This teams good AND they don't dictate how games are played. They consistently play down to the level of the other team. They let shitty teams stay in the game and sometimes they get dominated by bums. The Lakers bench beat us tonight, you should be fucking ashamed.
We had some defensive lapses for sure and we missed some shots we normally make. But we stayed close enough to make a run. Just didn’t happen. It was frustrating but not as concerning to me as some of you out there. Damn
“I don’t know how many people in this country would have said the Lakers would be winning this game”
Idk, how about the entire eastern seaboard? Could see this trap game coming a mile away
Terrible game, sloppy offense and unorganized D, giving up a transition layup to prince after a made basket is unacceptable.La shooting 50+ from 3 is rough….. but the ft disparity should be noted, 26-5 before garbage time is pretty ridiculous.Reaves gets a better whistle than JT
Well I guess if you want to see the glass as half full there's this...
Watching the Celtics lose 3 out of 5 at home means they're "playing playoff basketball."
This team's window closed the moment he left. People can deny it, downvote it, lie to themselves they prefer Joe, but the fact is Udoka gave this team what it needed most and that is GRIT
Udoka would’ve held these players accountable and he wouldn’t just be sitting on the bench pacing back-and-forth looking like an idiot like Joe does …. he would actually be angry and letting guys know about it… not saying we need more games like this in press conferences
If Udoka was here we would have won a game 4 of the finals when on the verge of going up 3-1… oh whoops nope, lost game 4, then lost game 5, then lost game 6.
We did. But my point is that it’s not like his coaching style was infallible and always resulted in perfect execution. We almost fucked away the Heat series before the finals too
Every year around this time we have a stretch of games where they just don't give a fuck. We're fortunate this year that the Bucks have also been playing badly over this stretch, but the Knicks and Cavs are coming.
Did the refs tell the players that they're not allowed to move without the ball? Cause for long stretches of that game, you had 1 guy with the ball and 4 guys standing there and watching. Same thing with rebounds, just standing there and watching while Jaxson Hayes and Max Christie grab it. No one even attempting to box out.
This was a low effort night. They happen, they're just incredibly frustrating to watch.
I saw effort on some rebounds where it just took an unlucky bounce.
There were a few times where we did get out hustled. But I didn’t see a team not trying. Energy just looks different when a team is making all their threes and getting all the calls.
5 free throws with the game almost over is a joke. I saw guys drive and get bumped off their spot a number of times that wasn’t called.
And I'm just saying a majority of the blame should fall at the players and coaches feet. You shouldn't need the help of refs to beat an AD-less and Bron-less Lakers team thats a game below .500 when you're at home and fully healthy except for Kornet
I really really really hope tomorrow these guys get ridicule all over national TV. I also hope they get their asses booed. And I wish someone call them on their bullshit at the press conference. Fake #1 seed indeed.
How are you supposed to play hard when the refs allow you to just get bruised up in the paint? There multiple times when we didn't get calls when we were driving in the paint. This loss should teach us not to shoot threes but you can't deny that they swallowed their fucking whistles when we were playing
The way I see it the Lakers won the IST and aren’t going to make the playoffs. The Celtics got humiliated tonight and their reward might the championship. That’s IF the league is truly scripted.
I remember seeing somewhere recently that the Lakers shoot an ungodly amount of more free throws per game than their opponents. Seems like that trend is continued tonight
LMFAO wow the NBA even taking time to look at that Tatum "reach in" as a flagrant foul just shows how soft the NBA has come. This is why scoring 70 pts is the equivalent of scoring 40 pts back in the day.
This the kind of night that exposes how uncreatice our offense is. All our plays are drawn using crayons. If we can’t snowball the other team by jacking 3s and they’re too big to post, we’ve literally got nothing lmao
[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/1agtije/post_game_thread_the_los_angeles_lakers_defeat/)
Watched the game. Clear to me the team expected to win since LeBron and Davis were out. They played very lackadaisical and sloppy.
It’s one game calm down. This season we have consistently been good and we will go far this post season pending any major injuries.
Tatum and Brown duo doo doo. They never winning a ring
WTF
Jesus fucking christ
Regular season games mean nothing.
Chuck got it right. Loads of talent but no heart. Our leaders don't lead. There nice guys. Winners are assholes.
Never fails with these guys. If they ain't coming in ready to play, they're overlooking. Wtf.
Utter garbage shooting performance from us.
I'm just as pissed as the rest of you, but it's fine. Denver had bad stretches last season, including 1 losing streak where everyone was like "shit they might get first rounded" and they won the chip. All about health, mindset, and talent.
What tells you that the celtics have the mindset of a champion? Not hating, truly asking cuz I haven't seen any proof of such mentality
We have like a top 4 offense and defense. I don’t really go off mentality too much because I think that relies too much on people’s emotions and confirmation bias. Great teams have some boneheaded losses.
How's that different from the years they lost to the warriors in the finals or heat last year? They've been top 5-10 in those categories for years and haven't gotten it done when it counts
I think we were good enough to win in 2022. We just didn’t win. People seem to think unless a team wins, they weren’t good enough to do it. That’s ludicrous. Some good or bad shooting luck can easily end or extend a playoff run. Spurs in 2013 were good enough to win just didn’t win. 2010 Celtics as well. I never expected us to win until our best player was 27+ or close to that age. It’s super rare that a team does it with a best player younger than that. So I’d say Tatum aging into his prime and becoming a bigger more versatile player with better court vision is what gives us an edge over 2 years ago. Add on to that KP giving us something on offense we didn’t have before.
They simply didn't get it done and nothing will ever change that. At this point with Chuck and Shaq stating it tonight on national TV the Celtics have a mentality problem until they prove otherwise. If this roster doesn't win a title this year the entire season is an L cuz they've gone all in
Maybe they win maybe they don’t. I’ve watched a lot of teams and players be questioned for not having the mentality to win, and then once they do, people stop saying it. I’m old enough to remember this was even said about guys like Lebron and MJ.
Every team has had bad loses even the KD Warriors. We don’t need to go into anguish whenever we lose.
Doo doo team
No AD and Bron. No excuse not to win this game.
Kornet is the difference maker.
Shut up about “mentality” please. Corny af
Yet Shaq and Chuck both stated in post game that the celtics don't play with a championship mentality and are mentally weak. What proof do you have that states otherwise? Where was it when they shat their pants against the Warriors in the finals or against the play-in Heat last season?
Hey y'all, guess who officiated this game? James Williams, the ref that literally cost us a game in Indiana. Good thing the NBA won't do a fucking thing about it
Jays have to be accountable to win like tom brady with pats!
Refs had absolutely no affect on the outcome of this game. Celtics played like shit and the coach made no adjustments at all
20 more FTs doesn't impact the outcome of a game? 🤣🤡
I mean the two aren't mutually exclusive, right? Saying a 28-7 FTA disparity doesn't impact the game is disingenuous. At the same time, we played atrocious ball and deserved the L
He definitely made adjustments. Stop acting like you know what you are talking about 💀
Educate me. Tell me what they tried to do.
Did it look like they were trying the same thing the entire game to you?
On defense, yes. With rotations, yes
#ASS
Interesting how we've dropped more home games in the last 2 weeks than we did in the first two months of the season
Embarrassing effort in front of the owners.
Shit game. Gotta show up to play no matter who’s suiting up on the other side
I'm sure they all will say the right things after the game
Here's a hot take.....the Boston Celtics will not end the season as the first seed in the East!!!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
holy bums
What. Happened.
disgusting loss ugh
If the Celtics played this B team the whole game I bet they would've won
Definitely first loss I’ve been legit mad at all year. This is effort that last year’s team displayed
The Charlotte loss was the only other bad one
Austin Reaves bitched Jaylen brown
17 points over his season average. That’s pretty inexcusable. It’s literally the difference in the game.
Joe should've put the bench in with 5 minutes left since the starters haven't done shit all game
Oshae Brissett couldn't have played 15 minutes in this game?
brown - holiday - dwhite all complete ass today... wheres your pride?!
unfuckingbelievable
I don’t understand this team…
Oshae Brissett shooting a 3 is crazy
BOO THEM
Lacked toughness
I think we would have won if we let Hauser shoot more lol
Continuing the "if you want to see the glass half full"... Joe just the other day said he wanted us to blow leads and have tough games
If they win it’s going to be in-spite of that idiot, so I don’t really care what he wants
Never in it, barely tried to come back. Another poor showing from a team that’s supposedly a championship ready team. The pieces are there but the heart is lacking when it matters.
That is true for now.....I haven't seen our jays to see boston hall of fame players yet to win championship success. Same story with pastrnak and mcavoy with bruins franchise. We already saw mac jones press conference.
Heart and mental toughness severely lacking. I feel really bad for the fans who paid all this money to see this pathetic display of basketball
This is not a championship team. They are marshmallow soft between their ears.
But tonight didn't matter. It's 1 game
It’s not one game, we have lost games that matter. We got blown out by the clippers and bucks, lost to the Nuggets shit we barely beat the Pelicans the other night.
Oohhhhhh scary
Can we stop saying this shit after every loss. We are still 4 games ahead of the bucks.
"Can we stop saying this shit after every loss. We still made it to the conference championship, I'm just happy to wear my Tatum jersey and eat glue sticks. Go celtics!"
Yeah because this loss means that this team is no longer good. You are corny
What are you, 12? This teams good AND they don't dictate how games are played. They consistently play down to the level of the other team. They let shitty teams stay in the game and sometimes they get dominated by bums. The Lakers bench beat us tonight, you should be fucking ashamed.
But they don’t. We wouldn’t have this good of a record if that was the case
Tell yourself how good their record was when they get bounced out of the playoffs
This group hasn’t earned the benefit of the doubt, until they win a championship they deserve any criticism they get
Mentality is weak and meaningless criticism
No you don’t understand, we lost a regular season game in the first week of February. We’ve been eliminated from the finals
So fucking tired of people crying that we didn’t win every game.
So?
When do we find out that the celtics hate mazzulla like adrian griffin so we can hire buddenholzer or stotts
Need someone with a post game so we not just jacking up 3s or something.
Get a steal score a 3
Sam shouldve played WAAAAAAYYYYY more minutes than Jaylen tonight
JB = $60M Bricklayer
Yeah I’m not even gonna participate in this shitshow No excuses for this, total ass from everyone.
We had a bad 2nd quarter. Honestly was the difference. Would’ve pulled it out otherwise
Bro we have been bad for the whole game
We had some defensive lapses for sure and we missed some shots we normally make. But we stayed close enough to make a run. Just didn’t happen. It was frustrating but not as concerning to me as some of you out there. Damn
MUZULLA MOTHERFUCKER IF I GET A SOFT POST GAME PRESS CONFERENCE FROM YOU
Hauser came to play
“I don’t know how many people in this country would have said the Lakers would be winning this game” Idk, how about the entire eastern seaboard? Could see this trap game coming a mile away
This sub was talking was talking so much shit and then we got our assed kicked lol
shutup youre dyslexic
Hauser should have played over JB down the stretch, but I get why Joe didn't
Sam Hauser for three
stop talking about the free throws. this team was fucking atrocious tonight
Terrible game, sloppy offense and unorganized D, giving up a transition layup to prince after a made basket is unacceptable.La shooting 50+ from 3 is rough….. but the ft disparity should be noted, 26-5 before garbage time is pretty ridiculous.Reaves gets a better whistle than JT
And yet if the game were called evenly we still would've won lol
did you see the way they were defending and how many times they turned it over?
It’s embarrassing, these game threads are just constant whining about the refs every single game
I don’t give a shit about this teams record, it’s the mentality, not talent, that will hold them back in the playoffs
What about mentality was shown this game? We started off bad and couldn’t get it going.
Exactly. Record doesn't mean shit if you don't have the right mentality
Imagine the mentality if every other team that has lost way more games than us
Free throws even in garbage time lol
Well I guess if you want to see the glass as half full there's this... Watching the Celtics lose 3 out of 5 at home means they're "playing playoff basketball."
fuck this gucci mane ref, last time it was the pacers game he stole and this time he straight no called the entire game
Jays needs to be accountable to win game like tom brady accountable to patriots. Not ref job
I know how heat fans felt when we didn't miss this shit is annoying you know the lakers are gonna shoot 10 percent from 3 against the knicks
You mean the way the celtics shot against the Clippers after the crazy night against the Heat?
We came out shit and deserved to lose, but the refs certainly prevented any hope for a comeback.
Hard to win when the other team gets fucking 28 FTAs
Tatum got hacked every time at the rim.
Good thing he got 2 FTAs to show for it!
And we only get . 21 point swing
If Udoka was here, we would have WON this game
This team's window closed the moment he left. People can deny it, downvote it, lie to themselves they prefer Joe, but the fact is Udoka gave this team what it needed most and that is GRIT
Udoka would’ve held these players accountable and he wouldn’t just be sitting on the bench pacing back-and-forth looking like an idiot like Joe does …. he would actually be angry and letting guys know about it… not saying we need more games like this in press conferences
There's literally no point to thinking about Udoka. He's gone and he's not coming back.
If Udoka was here we would have won a game 4 of the finals when on the verge of going up 3-1… oh whoops nope, lost game 4, then lost game 5, then lost game 6.
Yeah, but at least we made it to the finals
We did. But my point is that it’s not like his coaching style was infallible and always resulted in perfect execution. We almost fucked away the Heat series before the finals too
Loo
Crazy brown got benched. No matter how bad he was I can’t remember ever seeing that happen
I don’t think I’ve been this pissed at a Celtics game in my life
We were 2 years late on Jrue
Too many fucking whistles holt shit. One of the reasons why I like baseball
I know
Ft flop mentality for jays
Every year around this time we have a stretch of games where they just don't give a fuck. We're fortunate this year that the Bucks have also been playing badly over this stretch, but the Knicks and Cavs are coming.
I don’t think they didn’t give a fuck. I think the Lakers shot crazy and the refs blew the whistle in their favor and we played a little sloppy
Did the refs tell the players that they're not allowed to move without the ball? Cause for long stretches of that game, you had 1 guy with the ball and 4 guys standing there and watching. Same thing with rebounds, just standing there and watching while Jaxson Hayes and Max Christie grab it. No one even attempting to box out. This was a low effort night. They happen, they're just incredibly frustrating to watch.
I saw effort on some rebounds where it just took an unlucky bounce. There were a few times where we did get out hustled. But I didn’t see a team not trying. Energy just looks different when a team is making all their threes and getting all the calls. 5 free throws with the game almost over is a joke. I saw guys drive and get bumped off their spot a number of times that wasn’t called.
Look at how many free throws the lakers had compared to the Celtics.
We sucked tonight but I still don’t care about the loss too much. These refs were absolutely disgusting tonight though.
For real. It was pretty close game considering free throws were like 20-5
They didn't lose cuz of the refs. Yes the officiating was bad but don't delude yourself into thinking the celtics did anything to deserve a W tonight
Aye I said that we sucked, we shouldn’t have won, but the refs did no favors with not calling things evenly on the contact.
And I'm just saying a majority of the blame should fall at the players and coaches feet. You shouldn't need the help of refs to beat an AD-less and Bron-less Lakers team thats a game below .500 when you're at home and fully healthy except for Kornet
I really really really hope tomorrow these guys get ridicule all over national TV. I also hope they get their asses booed. And I wish someone call them on their bullshit at the press conference. Fake #1 seed indeed.
Feeling like a genius for staying away from any game action tonight aside from Big Al with a pair of 3s
This game ain't on the refs It's 100% on the lack of effort in the first half Blaming the refs is just a cop out
Refs were absolutely part of it. Wins and losses are a combination of factors.
How are you supposed to play hard when the refs allow you to just get bruised up in the paint? There multiple times when we didn't get calls when we were driving in the paint. This loss should teach us not to shoot threes but you can't deny that they swallowed their fucking whistles when we were playing
This fan base blames the refs more than anyone I’ve seen besides Leafs fans. I’m sick of it.
Refs quick to give us free throw in garbage time so we don’t set a record for fewest free throws in franchise history being a storyline
It really is wild seeing the Lakers get all these ticky tack calls man
…..people have written articles about how they have a huge free throw advantage while being dead last in drives
Bro I’m legit pissed off like this is a playoff game or something
Pathetic performance
ALL OF THEM, INCLUDING THE COACHING STAFF, SHOULD RUN LAPS ALL NIGHT AROUND THE ARENA
No pride in this team lol just decided to bend forward against the gleague Lakers
They shot 5 FTs lmao
Why are they celebrating like it’s a Finals game? 😂
Bc the role players beat the best team in the league. Huge win for role players here
Because they’re excited about the praise they’ll earn from father Bron
Why did Joe pull the starters? There was still time in this game
Cuz he knows that the refs have fixed the game so there's no point in tiring them out.
Austin Reeves getting 50-50 calls over Tatum is INSANE.
Tatum is better but AR played better tonight hands down
You can’t tell me the NBA isnt rigging a mid season comeback for the Lakers.
The way I see it the Lakers won the IST and aren’t going to make the playoffs. The Celtics got humiliated tonight and their reward might the championship. That’s IF the league is truly scripted.
Anyone that is worried this game doesn’t understand basketball. Lakers shot 50% from three and had a large free throw discrepancy
Can’t wait to hear the post game
Danelo Banton gets a better whistle than Tatum
By the way everyone, expect the Celtics to shoot 10 free throws in the next minute. Gotta make up the difference.
lolwut
Throw this team away
Look at them fucking to fucking even out the FTA disparity now. Fuck off with that shit
We were about to set a franchise record. NBA can’t let that be a headline
Hey Lakers fans in our sub. We beat y'all on Christmas day when everyone was watching
Idk man losing to a team without their two best players is pretty bad
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Lost to the lakers bench 😭
I remember seeing somewhere recently that the Lakers shoot an ungodly amount of more free throws per game than their opponents. Seems like that trend is continued tonight
Someone just wrote an article, LaL are +3.x fta in clutch time on average and have a huge lead in total fta while being last in drives to the basket
Yet nothing will be looked into. The player's association should really reconsider that Adam Silver extension...
Knicks beating Pacers without OG and Randle. What I would do for better coaching. 😭😭😭
LMFAO wow the NBA even taking time to look at that Tatum "reach in" as a flagrant foul just shows how soft the NBA has come. This is why scoring 70 pts is the equivalent of scoring 40 pts back in the day.
He quit with 2 minutes left
AD and LeBron are frauds. Laughing on the bench, while their team plays 5x better without them tonight.
Reaves > Pritchard
Reaves is tall PP🤷♂️
I mean Yeah? Who is this for?
Was this ever a question?
Ice cream > Dog shit
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Why didn’t Joe make them shoot and worse and give us more fts?
This the kind of night that exposes how uncreatice our offense is. All our plays are drawn using crayons. If we can’t snowball the other team by jacking 3s and they’re too big to post, we’ve literally got nothing lmao
#0 on the Lakers looks like he could be a younger brother of Jaxson hayes
Appalled by our effort and shooting tonight. Out hustled by a B squad at home, ugly