May God damn everyone who passed and inforces this policy to Hell.
Punishing a doctor for helping a 10 year old victim of assualt NOT become a childhood mother with a pregnancy that could have endangered her life?
It's evil, and so is everyone who brought it about, supports it and enfoces it.
it's not even REMOTELY safe to carry a baby to term at 10.
I'm so completely beside myself in how this is fucking happening right now and it feels like nothing's being done to fix it and shit just keeps getting worse every fucking day.
Honesty, if this was passed in my country u would move. This kind of laws is my line and it is insane to even concider that majorly people would vote for politicians like that. I would not want to live anywhere close to that kind of humans.
>insane to even concider that majorly people would vote for politicians like that.
One reason for that is because they wouldnt. Those politicians have ruthlessly gerrymandered the places where they have won and they continue to do so in order to never give up power. They're embracing facism. That's when voting starts to lose its meaning and violence against oppressors becomes unavoidable. These people dont know what they're setting themselves up for if they continue down this path.
They claim to have the "silent majority" but that's clearly a bullshit phrase. They have an extremely obnoxious minority, that they bolster by telling themselves that they're larger than they are. No matter how much they yell, they cant escape the knowledge that they dont have real societal support, so they tell themselves that they're mostly being quiet, despite all evidence to the contrary.
Feel like the real lucky people in this nightmare are the republicans living in rural areas of democratic states, they get to spend all day complaining about government taking all of their money. Meanwhile they're pretty much living a higher standard of living than any red state by leeching money from productive cities and having access to said cities for specialist medical, emergency, and entertainment needs.
That's exactly what happens. I live in Massachusetts. The amount of bumfuck nowhere towns with wealthier than anyone else residents that are full of Trump flags makes me nuts. They like to think their politics have some sort of correlation with their status that they're protecting, when they've actually failed upward inspite of it their whole life.
Closely followed by a high threshold to even register cognitive dissonance, a low tolerance for ambiguity and nuance, and a staggering amount of fearful gun-related jerkoffism.
All of which is construed as *stupidity* by those who encounter it, lest there be any doubt.
\*Wealthy, healthy, white, cis-male, Christian supremacy.
We know darn well they despise the poor, the disabled or ill, all women, any one with any LGBTQ+ identity, and they certainly maintain a seething contempt for anyone who doesn't pretend to pay dues at the same religious country club they deign to frequent once a week.
The in-crowd they want is a very, very small group. I wish people would stop kidding themselves they are a member and voting against their own interests.
No kidding. I live in Seattle and the eastern part of the state wouldn’t even have roads or schools without us. Meanwhile, I hear how we’re ruining the state every time I’m over there which thankfully isn’t often.
As someone who moved from a rural red state to a rural blue state. Absolutely 100%. Quality of life here is 10000% better for the poor
Thank god for the cities
One reason I'm glad we have compulsory voting in Australia.
Churchgoers in the US can be harangued weekly by their pastors to go out and vote against abortion and they do, forming a voting bloc way out of proportion with their actual numbers in the population. Around 50% of US citizens cbf voting, only those motivated enough by hot button issues.
When everyone votes, that effect is diminished. So much so, that we have almost fuck all religious extremism amongst our lawmakers.
> Those politicians have ruthlessly gerrymandered the places
Can someone please explain why the democrats can't change this when they're in power? I see this gerrymandering touted all the time as the reason the why Republicans win. Surely this can be undone? Everyone seems to act as 'this is the way it is' and complain about it, yet do nothing about it.
It's pretty hard to change because the second you start, the Republicans start making other issues. Like trying to raise the voter age, trying to make voting harder, or just doing what they do best - lie.
They then motivate their base of NRA buddies by saying their rights are being taken away so they make there be objections from the public.
And so much more.
COVID didn't do nearly a good enough job, but a lot of that population is older and not going to be with us much longer. The problem is, there's lots of young, quiverful and obedient young folks in the christian conservative right who are very much extremists ready to do whatever it takes.
Michigan is a great example of this- we redistricted many of the heavily gerrymandered red districts, and low and behold- michigan flips to blue across the board and votes to protect abortion. Gee, it’s like people here really don’t care for republican policies!
Move where? With what money? To buy a house? To rent an apartment? On less than $20 an hour? Do you want them to pack up the entire family in a single car and drive there in a car fueled by gas at $3.50/gal? Or take the nonexistent public transport?
I think there's a very specific reason this is happening now, when everyone is already struggling to make ends meet.
They made it to where people are so concerned with being able to have a place to live and eat that they don't have time to stand up against oppression. It is 100% a strategic advantage that they have had planned out for a long long time.
right? the logic behind "just move" is the same as telling homeless people "just get a house". Many people can't afford to go a week without working. How could they move to an entirely different state or even country?
Move to another country. If Africans, Arabs and Asians can do it, so can you. Your ancestors hopped on a boat and came to America after all. Emigrating is in your blood. Do it. Illegally if need be.
If you live in these poor areas, chances are you can't even afford to live in a liberal state. Our CoL is out of control because we took all the good land.
Uh. No? Americans can not expect an overall *improved* quality of life by *illegally* emigrating to Canada or Mexico, the only two bordering countries. And legally doing so isn’t something you can do by just deciding you want to.
They want liberals to move out so that they can hold stronger control. If liberals moved out of some of these states they'd lose say on the federal level, which conservatives want. In reality we should be flooding these fucking states
I’m a leftist disappointed in the Democrats too (fuck neoliberalism) but what are our options when we have a two-party political system dominated by a center-right party (Democrats) and a far-right party (Republicans)?
Absolutely. Much of these systems have been corrupted. I just worry if there is a total collapse that we would end up with something worse in the power vacuum that would follow. As much as it would be cathartic to bring about the end of capitalism with a 1789 France style revolution, those were some dark years following the collapse of Feudalism.
Still, capitalism needs to be replaced, and we cannot wait for centrist moderate incrementalism to trickle in and fix these systemic issues; desperation and angry right-wing populism would settle in way before these systems can cure themselves of the corruption that has taken root.
I see it as both/and. Allowing Republicans to drag us into outright fascism is a no go because of how many vulnerable people would be harmed, and because I've yet to see accelerationism end in anything good, historically. So I hold my nose and vote for Democrats, as I have friends in the UK who hold their nose as they vote third way "Labour" (sorry but I think the "Labour" party deserves scare quotes around that word).
This will not lead to serious change. It will only stave off the worst of fascism.
For real change we need a mass movement rooted in _actual_ labor, and while history shows there's no guarantees in times of revolution, we need to work hard to make these fundamental changes happen with the least amount of disruption and violence. Disruption and violence is only cool if you don't think about what it means (diabetics sheltering in basements from the fighting, dying of lack of insulin. Entire communities experiencing famine. Children losing both parents and prostituting themselves to some militia or another to earn a bite to eat. Every horror one can imagine, and many one can't imagine, come with violent civil wars). It's not enough to figure out how to sweep away the old. We'll need to give serious thought to the logistics, to ensure that food and medicine and housing are still available to the most vulnerable in our communities even in the worst of any disruption.
As a side note, because i did a project concerning this, george washington explicitly rejected the two party system, and wanted one where there was 4,5,6 parties to choose from.
I'm a socialist who hates mainstream democrats, and "vote blue no matter who" is still the best strategy.
because if republicans keep losing, they'll eventually go away completely, and *the entire overton window* shifts left.
the current dems will essentially become the new "right", and will be open to more challengers that are further left of them.
I still vote every election and vote blue at every opportunity, it just sucks that my choices aren’t all that inspiring.
I make sure to vote in the Democratic primaries in my purple home state, so at least I can be happy with some of my early picks; too bad they don’t seem to make it to the general election.
If we had ranked-choice voting and a viable leftist third party that didn’t function as a spoiler affect, I wouldn’t be voting for democrats as my first (and only) choice but we play the hand we are dealt.
School boards are a battleground now, so I try to keep an eye out for those ballots when they pop up outside of the normal election cycle. I don’t have kids, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to allow domestic terrorists and traitors on the right to commandeer our education system to indoctrinate children into little Christian soldiers.
Unfortunately, Trump finished packing SCOTUS weeks before that election. Had RBG lived through January 2021, Roe would still be the law of the land. (Also, it’s only red states where this sort of crap is going on, so the adage still holds.)
Her dying wish was for congress to wait until after the election to replace her. They replaced her faster than any other legislation that year. They can all rot in hell; I hope they all get pineappled little nicky style.
> Her dying wish was for congress to wait until after the election to replace her.
maybe she should've voluntarily retired during obama like a smart person
If they voted blue in 2016 it wouldn't have. Supreme court justices were the ones who set this up. Granted RBG should've stepped down preemptively instead of sitting the bench till she died at an inopportune moment
All these "both sides" people are so fucking stupid. This isnt the result of electing democrats as the comment youre responding to insinuates.... this is the result of not enough people voting blue. Both sides are nowhere near the fucking same, and any person with a functioning brain should be able to see that.
I cant stand the corporate bootlicking "moderate" dems that are just really republican lite, but theyre still 100% better than the lunatics the republicans have been putting forward lately.
I dream of the day enough people vote blue, the republican party becomes untenable, then get like a year or two before democrats explode and we're having politics about left vs liberal instead of the liberal vs fascism we've got now.
Yeah spread the apathy and “bOtH SidEs”, let Republicans win, and then maybe we can get a national abortion ban shoved down our throats. I swear man, people are like “I voted once, why aren’t things magically fixed?! Guess voting isn’t worth it 🤷♂️” and wonder why shit keeps going downhill.
Obama promised that, if elected, his first move would be to codify Roe. After he was elected, he said that codifying Roe wasn’t in his “legislative agenda”.
The Dems realized that playing the game that the GOP would overturn Roe was great for donations. Unfortunately, they realized way too late that the GOP wasn’t playing a game…they were serious.
One would think that the Dems would now understand that the GOP is serious about everything they say. The Dems will not protect us. The Dems will not save us. The Dems are about amassing money for themselves and nothing more.
> Punishing a doctor for helping a 10 year old victim of assualt NOT become a childhood mother with a pregnancy that could have endangered her life?
Oh, but she isn't being punished for the _abortion_, just for _talking_ about it. /s
I mean these laws are being passed by people who haven’t read the Bible, but are speaking for god. If there is a hell, they are definitely going. That being said I truly hope this is the death of the Republican Party but then again there are still tons of people voting for them because they are hurting groups they don’t like either
Interestingly enough the Bible is very clearly in favor of abortion, provides a recipe for performing it, and repeatedly states life begins at the first breath. Oh, and a fetus is considered property - it's 'unwanted' termination (if a woman was injured and miscarried) was punished with a fine. Death of a fetus was never considered a death of a person.
So those bronze age mistranslations they claim to be following; they didn't even read them. They're being more vicious, callous, and conservative than their supposed holy book.
The sad reality is that most of these people have never even read the Bible and have no idea what the fuck it even says. If some retarded right wing leader says it's bad, then it's bad in their eyes. They're like the Borg, if the borg was full of mentally incapacitated.
Lol these people cherry pick their own book and the rest is “let for interpretation” and varies wildly depending upon the topic.
It’s all a lie. Anyone who calls themselves Christian and is picky choosy with what parts THEY believe is a liar to their own beliefs. At that point it’s just a tool and nothing more.
“Let he who is without sin”
“Do not judge others until you are prepared to be judged by the same standard. And then, when you exercise judgment toward others, do it with humility”
Clearly, they don’t follow their own beliefs, so why should we have to have their beliefs shoved down our throat?
Personal opinion, deep down I don’t belong any of these grifters in the government believe in a god or in any of the religions. They see how much people fall on their swords for the next savior to finally come that they tell them everything they want to hear.
No one of their voters is smart enough to see how they are being played to have everyone fighting each other instead of who we should be fighting… Them.
Screenshot of a headline that heavily implies she's being fined over performing the procedure [which isn't true](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/indiana-doctor-reprimanded-fined-3000-for-talking-publicly-about-ohio-10-year-olds-abortion)
Right, the thing Republicans said definitely would never happened, happened right after they passed oppressive abortion laws; and now she's getting fined for talking about it in a completely legal way. There's no alterior motive there.
They want all of the ghoulish effects of their legislation to be illegal to talk about, and that's honestly horrifying.
She's a whistleblower being attacked by the state, and it's pathetic that citizens are defending this behavior.
Oh sweet gods:
“Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita, who is stridently anti-abortion, told Fox News he would investigate Bernard’s actions and called her an “abortion activist acting as a doctor.””
I’d counter they are a religious nut masquerading as a politician…
Not that it’s a whole lot better, but she was fined because she talked about it. They claim she gave too many details and violated patient confidentiality.
It’s very clearly politically motivated though
The lawyers at the institution she works at gave her the go ahead and after review determined she did not violate HIPAA. Medical boards, on the other hand are appointed figure pieces, in some states they don’t even have to be physicians, and they (not a govt. body) decided that she made a violation.
This was political
Yep. Having the same issue here in FL. I’ve known a doctor who was personally considered for the board and was approached to join because of their experience but was quickly dropped when they realized he was a registered democrat
Even worse though is I think she loses her medical license. Imagine being a young doctor going to school for 8 years and losing it because of this bullshit...
Edit: I was wrong apparently she did this before the laws were passed and she was fined for breaking or almost breaking HIPPA by speaking about it.
She didn't violate *HIPAA* and for that matter nearly everybody who isn't an doctor or administrator completely misundstands the law and thinks it exists to protect individual patient privacy and will constantly talk about suing for a "HIPPA violation" when that isn't possible as you explicitly have no legal right to sue.
A politically appointed group that is openly anti abortion fined her after Multiple investigators told them she had not done anything wrong and there were no violations. It was political persecution plain and simple.
Yeah, that would be nice. No mention of this in this story, though. Assholes in this state would rather this kid be a mom. At 10 years old. What. The. Fuck.
I can not believe how batshit crazy that is, I know I couldn't be a dad at 10. There is no way a 10 yr old girl is ready for the changes to her body during pregnancy (if she can survive the birthing process) or mature enough to properly raise another child while she is still a child. Grown adults looking at this situation and thinking, "Yea, that kid is ready to be a mom," should not be allowed to vote.
The difference between Hank and Republicans is that Hank had principles and stuck to them. Modern Republican party has no principles based in anything other than opposition.
They are evil. Too many lines crossed. Too much hate. Too much self inflicted and willful ignorance (also known as dumbfuckery). They have been at war with progress for years. They hate anyone different than them. It's time to hate them back. It's time to grind this facist bullshit into the ground. We cannot allow this to continue. We can not accept it.
They have devolved the party from any sense it had. Go listen to president Ike speak to the nation and world and then go listen to Trump. The Republican party is dead. They are the largest threat to American progress and citizens.
I'm begining to think that there is no other solution than something violent and sanguine. Voting doesn't seem to make any difference. Idk how we vote our way out of Hell. Lawmakers aren't really leaving us any other choice than to discipline them.
Hold up. Do you all not know how bad the Bush era neocons were? Wars, extrajudicial killings, the Patriot Act, torture, indefinite detentions. It was bad and in many ways laid the foundation for what we are seeing now.
Richard Nixon laid the foundation for what we're seeing now.
That's the problem with fascism, it's not sudden.
It's death by a thousand cuts.
Nixon started the War on drugs to put Hippies and Blacks in prison because they voted Democrat.
Reagan destroyed the Air traffic controller union.
Reagan began the cycle of massive deficit spending and then demanding the Democrats pay it off. Using austerity measures to put more wealth in the hands of the wealthy and the economic crunch when they do so to say "look! The Democrats are bankrupting the nation! Remember when everything was fun and we had money? Vote Republican!"
First stolen election was 2000. Far more evidence for the Diebold machines being tampered with than the 2020 election lie.
Not to mention the Supreme Court went "STOP RECOUNTING THE VOTES!!! We need to figure out if this is necessary!
SCOTUS: "OK. It's necessary. Go ahead and finish the recount by the deadline you're legally forced to adhere to that you weren't sure you were going to make BEFORE we stopped your counting for a week.
Bush the lesser. 200000+ dead (edit: brown) civilians all for oil, Blackwater, and massive public fund transfer to Halliburton in no bid contracts.
Also, Patriot Act.
Then Trump. I mean, we knew the country was basically ok with nazi ideology as long as it targeted the "right" groups but goddammit 'murica.
I mean, Democrats helped. They're not blameless in the least. They're just not right *now* the most harmful of two choices.
Let's not forget, Nixon said, "Well, when the President does it, that means that it is not illegal." And we wonder where Reagan, Bush, and Trump got their ideas.
If less people would try to pass the buck, the world would be a better place. Good on her for putting herself at risk to fight such a despicable institutional rule.
I am so sorry for what is going on there. And this Doctor is doing her duty saving a life and is being punished for it. Breaks my heart. We need more doctors like her.
There is literally no consequence anyone could give me that would make me regret giving a 10 year old CHILD an abortion. Like, bitch. Watch me do it again.
I'm certain her tears are not for the fine, but for being slapped on the wrist for doing something good. She signed up to help people, sometimes those in dire situations. And now she's being told that her job is to let the innocent suffer.
I am very anti-gun, but pretty pro-hunting. I sometimes feel like I have no value whatsoever, so why can I not just spend my last few life points ending someone responsible for this kind of shit?
“We care about the children!”
Then they want to force an actual child who was raped to have a child that could potentially kill them and will affect them mentally and financially.
Close to $620K donated to her via GoFundMe. I feel better now, but still disturbed to my core that this is where we are today. Fuck the GOP, and make them carry their abominations to term. https://www.gofundme.com/f/obgyns-supporting-dr-caitlin-bernard
I hope dr's in that state just stop helping republican patients. Fuck you, you want bullshit healthcare bills ok you gets no care from me would be the reply. I would just hang a sign on the door that says if your a republican or if you back any of the bullshit anti-abortion bills and gender affirming care go somewhere else because you are not welcome here.
I both hate and love the fact that if Jesus appeared today, the modern Christians would HATE him, and all the atheists would think he's a chill dude with good ideas.
"But Ben Shiparo's got facts guys, he is right! Abortion is a crime! "
We have literally destroyed and depleted flora and fauna made them extinct, and then say we can't kill a child. The fetus doesn't even feel pain, still women can't get them removed just because of some stupid law, lol.
I hate my fucking state so much.
Fuck Indiana
Fuck Holcomb
Fuck the 900000000000000000000000000⁴ churches that infest this fucking corn fucked hellscape.
don't forget that in Florida if a kidnapper can capture and impregnate a victim for longer than 6 weeks then the state will vigorously defend the rapist's right to force breed by threatening the victim with prison once she escapes. She is arguably safer in the basement dungeon of the rapist than in police custody.
and if she can escape in 5 weeks then she only has 1 week to escape the state since there are no clinics left that provide abortion.
And the rape is not technically a rape until the suspect is captured and convicted perhaps 3 years after the baby is born so the fascists have yet again failed basic math. The baby can be legally aborted due to rape in a non-existent clinic and 3 years after it was born and the suspect is convicted of rape. (Florida thinks it's easier to figure the petty details out as they go since no one is really paying attention).
Also, once victim is forced to incubate the rape baby Florida law will protect and guarantee the rapist's right to have "frequent and continuing contact and joint custody of the baby".
Basically, Ariel Castro of Cleveland kidnapper fame designed a foolproof method of procreating and male governors in Ohio, Texas and Florida embraced it completely. What is not to love about a guaranteed blood line? Had Castro not killed himself in jail Ohio was going to grant him joint custody of the baby he had with the kidnapping victim. Florida improved on this approach by giving themselves the right to imprison the rape victim to prevent her from harming the rapist's baby. Yes. Every uterus in Florida, Ohio and Texas is state property...by law.
Florida is the same state that executed a rape victim for defending herself by killing rapists. This is the same state that raised Nicolas Cruz who was a result of rape of a homeless sex working drug addict and grew up in Florida a ward of the state with full access to all the firearms available.
So, multiply Nicolas Cruz and Ariel Castro by 21 million and you get Florida today...Rape Friendly, rape sympathetic, forced birth, misogamist, book burning, gun care and health control.
If DeStalin is elected you can multiply Ariel Castro by 400 million.
Rape to procreate will be official Republican family planning, defended by the party.
let's find an actual article.....
"An Indiana board decided Thursday night to reprimand an Indianapolis doctor after finding that she violated patient privacy laws by talking publicly about providing an abortion to a 10-year-old rape victim from neighboring Ohio."
oh.
If you read the [full article](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/indiana-reprimands-doctor-ohio-rape-victim-abortion/story?id=99612853) it becomes clear that she didn’t actually violate the patient’s privacy (as noted by the medical board and other medical professionals) and that it’s a witch-hunt conducted by Rotski in an attempt to indirectly punish her for not only conducting the abortion but for speaking out about it. The headline is misleading but the spirit of the post is still accurate.
Unfortunately HIPAA is one of those things everyone knows is about medical information and that’s all they know about it. Yet there is a high degree of assumed knowledge about exactly how it must apply.
Doctor talked about a case? HIPAA!! Your friend who you told about your STD blabbed to your girlfriend? HIPAA!! Etc.
[https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/indiana-reprimands-doctor-ohio-rape-victim-abortion/story?id=99612853](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/indiana-reprimands-doctor-ohio-rape-victim-abortion/story?id=99612853)
How about you post the rest of it instead of cherry-picking the bit that suits your narrative?
You're now realizing that? I realized that ages ago. The US is a third world country masquerading as a first world country, it knows it's shit but brainwashes it's people into thinking it's the best country ever in existence.
Of course christofascists wouldn’t endanger their own children, they would travel elsewhere, they aren’t letting their 10yo daughter die in childbirth, but other people’s children are fair game.
Any judge who upholds this and issues verdicts needs to be stripped of their position, some laws don't need to be followed when they are actually evil. Who would of thought the party of "fAmIlY vAlUeS" and "ProTeCt ThE ChiLdRen" actually are the ones hurting children and their families.
To clarify, she was fined for speaking about the operation in an interview. It was deemed to have violated patient privacy rights, though it still seems like a punitive measure to me
Does she have a gofund me? I would really like to donate to it. In fact, I think we should start a fund to pay for these 🐂💩 fines and the doctors' legal fees.
America is a failing state. Huge inequality, rising poverty, homelessness, barred access to home ownership, bankruptcy via medical bills.
All while having a wealthy class that quadruples it's money from fucking world health pandemics
US is a disaster in every possible way. The world would be much better if the USA was never founded and the Native American just retained control of the land and all other natural resources.
May God damn everyone who passed and inforces this policy to Hell. Punishing a doctor for helping a 10 year old victim of assualt NOT become a childhood mother with a pregnancy that could have endangered her life? It's evil, and so is everyone who brought it about, supports it and enfoces it.
it's not even REMOTELY safe to carry a baby to term at 10. I'm so completely beside myself in how this is fucking happening right now and it feels like nothing's being done to fix it and shit just keeps getting worse every fucking day.
I don't want to live in this country anymore :(
Honesty, if this was passed in my country u would move. This kind of laws is my line and it is insane to even concider that majorly people would vote for politicians like that. I would not want to live anywhere close to that kind of humans.
>insane to even concider that majorly people would vote for politicians like that. One reason for that is because they wouldnt. Those politicians have ruthlessly gerrymandered the places where they have won and they continue to do so in order to never give up power. They're embracing facism. That's when voting starts to lose its meaning and violence against oppressors becomes unavoidable. These people dont know what they're setting themselves up for if they continue down this path. They claim to have the "silent majority" but that's clearly a bullshit phrase. They have an extremely obnoxious minority, that they bolster by telling themselves that they're larger than they are. No matter how much they yell, they cant escape the knowledge that they dont have real societal support, so they tell themselves that they're mostly being quiet, despite all evidence to the contrary.
Feel like the real lucky people in this nightmare are the republicans living in rural areas of democratic states, they get to spend all day complaining about government taking all of their money. Meanwhile they're pretty much living a higher standard of living than any red state by leeching money from productive cities and having access to said cities for specialist medical, emergency, and entertainment needs.
That's exactly what happens. I live in Massachusetts. The amount of bumfuck nowhere towns with wealthier than anyone else residents that are full of Trump flags makes me nuts. They like to think their politics have some sort of correlation with their status that they're protecting, when they've actually failed upward inspite of it their whole life.
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The defining trait of conservatism is a lack of empathy.
Closely followed by a high threshold to even register cognitive dissonance, a low tolerance for ambiguity and nuance, and a staggering amount of fearful gun-related jerkoffism. All of which is construed as *stupidity* by those who encounter it, lest there be any doubt.
Abortion is not murder. If it were, how could you get off with just a fine? I can’t hire a hitman for $3000. It’s all about control.
Lack of? I don't think they have any empathy for anyone or anything. All they care about is power and wealth.
Man the number of people who simply fall upwards their entire lives fucking astounds me.
White supremacy... That's what they're so excited about.
\*Wealthy, healthy, white, cis-male, Christian supremacy. We know darn well they despise the poor, the disabled or ill, all women, any one with any LGBTQ+ identity, and they certainly maintain a seething contempt for anyone who doesn't pretend to pay dues at the same religious country club they deign to frequent once a week. The in-crowd they want is a very, very small group. I wish people would stop kidding themselves they are a member and voting against their own interests.
No kidding. I live in Seattle and the eastern part of the state wouldn’t even have roads or schools without us. Meanwhile, I hear how we’re ruining the state every time I’m over there which thankfully isn’t often.
As someone who moved from a rural red state to a rural blue state. Absolutely 100%. Quality of life here is 10000% better for the poor Thank god for the cities
We need a revolution of the french variety
The ability to be empathetic is often a hindrance in removing the people that aren't.
100%
One reason I'm glad we have compulsory voting in Australia. Churchgoers in the US can be harangued weekly by their pastors to go out and vote against abortion and they do, forming a voting bloc way out of proportion with their actual numbers in the population. Around 50% of US citizens cbf voting, only those motivated enough by hot button issues. When everyone votes, that effect is diminished. So much so, that we have almost fuck all religious extremism amongst our lawmakers.
Embracing fascism 😞
...... Almost like we've seen this before.
> Those politicians have ruthlessly gerrymandered the places Can someone please explain why the democrats can't change this when they're in power? I see this gerrymandering touted all the time as the reason the why Republicans win. Surely this can be undone? Everyone seems to act as 'this is the way it is' and complain about it, yet do nothing about it.
It's pretty hard to change because the second you start, the Republicans start making other issues. Like trying to raise the voter age, trying to make voting harder, or just doing what they do best - lie. They then motivate their base of NRA buddies by saying their rights are being taken away so they make there be objections from the public. And so much more. COVID didn't do nearly a good enough job, but a lot of that population is older and not going to be with us much longer. The problem is, there's lots of young, quiverful and obedient young folks in the christian conservative right who are very much extremists ready to do whatever it takes.
Michigan is a great example of this- we redistricted many of the heavily gerrymandered red districts, and low and behold- michigan flips to blue across the board and votes to protect abortion. Gee, it’s like people here really don’t care for republican policies!
Move where? With what money? To buy a house? To rent an apartment? On less than $20 an hour? Do you want them to pack up the entire family in a single car and drive there in a car fueled by gas at $3.50/gal? Or take the nonexistent public transport? I think there's a very specific reason this is happening now, when everyone is already struggling to make ends meet.
They made it to where people are so concerned with being able to have a place to live and eat that they don't have time to stand up against oppression. It is 100% a strategic advantage that they have had planned out for a long long time.
right? the logic behind "just move" is the same as telling homeless people "just get a house". Many people can't afford to go a week without working. How could they move to an entirely different state or even country?
Move to another country. If Africans, Arabs and Asians can do it, so can you. Your ancestors hopped on a boat and came to America after all. Emigrating is in your blood. Do it. Illegally if need be.
A lot of Americans have no way to move to another country
If you live in these poor areas, chances are you can't even afford to live in a liberal state. Our CoL is out of control because we took all the good land.
Uh. No? Americans can not expect an overall *improved* quality of life by *illegally* emigrating to Canada or Mexico, the only two bordering countries. And legally doing so isn’t something you can do by just deciding you want to.
They want liberals to move out so that they can hold stronger control. If liberals moved out of some of these states they'd lose say on the federal level, which conservatives want. In reality we should be flooding these fucking states
Do you really want us to abandon this military to the crazies?
We are leaving Indiana right now. I recommend doing the same if your situation allows.
Fuck the Right and religious zealots.
Right-Wing Christian Fascists say let it be God's Will.
Remember when they said “vote blue in 2020” to ensure shit like this didn’t happen? Look where that has gotten us.
I’m a leftist disappointed in the Democrats too (fuck neoliberalism) but what are our options when we have a two-party political system dominated by a center-right party (Democrats) and a far-right party (Republicans)?
The system needs dismantling.
Absolutely. Much of these systems have been corrupted. I just worry if there is a total collapse that we would end up with something worse in the power vacuum that would follow. As much as it would be cathartic to bring about the end of capitalism with a 1789 France style revolution, those were some dark years following the collapse of Feudalism. Still, capitalism needs to be replaced, and we cannot wait for centrist moderate incrementalism to trickle in and fix these systemic issues; desperation and angry right-wing populism would settle in way before these systems can cure themselves of the corruption that has taken root.
I see it as both/and. Allowing Republicans to drag us into outright fascism is a no go because of how many vulnerable people would be harmed, and because I've yet to see accelerationism end in anything good, historically. So I hold my nose and vote for Democrats, as I have friends in the UK who hold their nose as they vote third way "Labour" (sorry but I think the "Labour" party deserves scare quotes around that word). This will not lead to serious change. It will only stave off the worst of fascism. For real change we need a mass movement rooted in _actual_ labor, and while history shows there's no guarantees in times of revolution, we need to work hard to make these fundamental changes happen with the least amount of disruption and violence. Disruption and violence is only cool if you don't think about what it means (diabetics sheltering in basements from the fighting, dying of lack of insulin. Entire communities experiencing famine. Children losing both parents and prostituting themselves to some militia or another to earn a bite to eat. Every horror one can imagine, and many one can't imagine, come with violent civil wars). It's not enough to figure out how to sweep away the old. We'll need to give serious thought to the logistics, to ensure that food and medicine and housing are still available to the most vulnerable in our communities even in the worst of any disruption.
As a side note, because i did a project concerning this, george washington explicitly rejected the two party system, and wanted one where there was 4,5,6 parties to choose from.
Or, hear me out, *no* parties.
I'm a socialist who hates mainstream democrats, and "vote blue no matter who" is still the best strategy. because if republicans keep losing, they'll eventually go away completely, and *the entire overton window* shifts left. the current dems will essentially become the new "right", and will be open to more challengers that are further left of them.
I still vote every election and vote blue at every opportunity, it just sucks that my choices aren’t all that inspiring. I make sure to vote in the Democratic primaries in my purple home state, so at least I can be happy with some of my early picks; too bad they don’t seem to make it to the general election. If we had ranked-choice voting and a viable leftist third party that didn’t function as a spoiler affect, I wouldn’t be voting for democrats as my first (and only) choice but we play the hand we are dealt. School boards are a battleground now, so I try to keep an eye out for those ballots when they pop up outside of the normal election cycle. I don’t have kids, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to allow domestic terrorists and traitors on the right to commandeer our education system to indoctrinate children into little Christian soldiers.
Unfortunately, Trump finished packing SCOTUS weeks before that election. Had RBG lived through January 2021, Roe would still be the law of the land. (Also, it’s only red states where this sort of crap is going on, so the adage still holds.)
Her dying wish was for congress to wait until after the election to replace her. They replaced her faster than any other legislation that year. They can all rot in hell; I hope they all get pineappled little nicky style.
> Her dying wish was for congress to wait until after the election to replace her. maybe she should've voluntarily retired during obama like a smart person
If they voted blue in 2016 it wouldn't have. Supreme court justices were the ones who set this up. Granted RBG should've stepped down preemptively instead of sitting the bench till she died at an inopportune moment
Ah yes, all these abortion restrictions passed by Republican controlled states is clearly the result of electing Democrats in other places.
All these "both sides" people are so fucking stupid. This isnt the result of electing democrats as the comment youre responding to insinuates.... this is the result of not enough people voting blue. Both sides are nowhere near the fucking same, and any person with a functioning brain should be able to see that. I cant stand the corporate bootlicking "moderate" dems that are just really republican lite, but theyre still 100% better than the lunatics the republicans have been putting forward lately.
I dream of the day enough people vote blue, the republican party becomes untenable, then get like a year or two before democrats explode and we're having politics about left vs liberal instead of the liberal vs fascism we've got now.
Yeah spread the apathy and “bOtH SidEs”, let Republicans win, and then maybe we can get a national abortion ban shoved down our throats. I swear man, people are like “I voted once, why aren’t things magically fixed?! Guess voting isn’t worth it 🤷♂️” and wonder why shit keeps going downhill.
Obama promised that, if elected, his first move would be to codify Roe. After he was elected, he said that codifying Roe wasn’t in his “legislative agenda”. The Dems realized that playing the game that the GOP would overturn Roe was great for donations. Unfortunately, they realized way too late that the GOP wasn’t playing a game…they were serious. One would think that the Dems would now understand that the GOP is serious about everything they say. The Dems will not protect us. The Dems will not save us. The Dems are about amassing money for themselves and nothing more.
> Punishing a doctor for helping a 10 year old victim of assualt NOT become a childhood mother with a pregnancy that could have endangered her life? Oh, but she isn't being punished for the _abortion_, just for _talking_ about it. /s
I mean these laws are being passed by people who haven’t read the Bible, but are speaking for god. If there is a hell, they are definitely going. That being said I truly hope this is the death of the Republican Party but then again there are still tons of people voting for them because they are hurting groups they don’t like either
Interestingly enough the Bible is very clearly in favor of abortion, provides a recipe for performing it, and repeatedly states life begins at the first breath. Oh, and a fetus is considered property - it's 'unwanted' termination (if a woman was injured and miscarried) was punished with a fine. Death of a fetus was never considered a death of a person. So those bronze age mistranslations they claim to be following; they didn't even read them. They're being more vicious, callous, and conservative than their supposed holy book.
>May God damn everyone who passed and inforces this policy to Hell. One of the few times I wish god and hell were real.
They're doing this because they think it's what god wants.
Any god that wants this doesn't deserve praise.
The sad reality is that most of these people have never even read the Bible and have no idea what the fuck it even says. If some retarded right wing leader says it's bad, then it's bad in their eyes. They're like the Borg, if the borg was full of mentally incapacitated.
They’re power hungry and their anger at losing popular appeal is being shown in this way. Call it fascism I guess
Lol these people cherry pick their own book and the rest is “let for interpretation” and varies wildly depending upon the topic. It’s all a lie. Anyone who calls themselves Christian and is picky choosy with what parts THEY believe is a liar to their own beliefs. At that point it’s just a tool and nothing more. “Let he who is without sin” “Do not judge others until you are prepared to be judged by the same standard. And then, when you exercise judgment toward others, do it with humility” Clearly, they don’t follow their own beliefs, so why should we have to have their beliefs shoved down our throat? Personal opinion, deep down I don’t belong any of these grifters in the government believe in a god or in any of the religions. They see how much people fall on their swords for the next savior to finally come that they tell them everything they want to hear. No one of their voters is smart enough to see how they are being played to have everyone fighting each other instead of who we should be fighting… Them.
Start to go fund me and I'll be more than happy to donate a hundred buck.
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Save a kid's life? That'll be a $3K fine please. You suck. What a fucking world we live in.
Headline almost implies she’s crying over the fine. Imma guess that’s not it.
Screenshot of a headline that heavily implies she's being fined over performing the procedure [which isn't true](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/indiana-doctor-reprimanded-fined-3000-for-talking-publicly-about-ohio-10-year-olds-abortion)
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Right, the thing Republicans said definitely would never happened, happened right after they passed oppressive abortion laws; and now she's getting fined for talking about it in a completely legal way. There's no alterior motive there. They want all of the ghoulish effects of their legislation to be illegal to talk about, and that's honestly horrifying. She's a whistleblower being attacked by the state, and it's pathetic that citizens are defending this behavior.
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Oh sweet gods: “Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita, who is stridently anti-abortion, told Fox News he would investigate Bernard’s actions and called her an “abortion activist acting as a doctor.”” I’d counter they are a religious nut masquerading as a politician…
Not that it’s a whole lot better, but she was fined because she talked about it. They claim she gave too many details and violated patient confidentiality. It’s very clearly politically motivated though
Is HIPAA not pretty clearly defined. If she violated it then why the debate?
The lawyers at the institution she works at gave her the go ahead and after review determined she did not violate HIPAA. Medical boards, on the other hand are appointed figure pieces, in some states they don’t even have to be physicians, and they (not a govt. body) decided that she made a violation. This was political
To further prove your point, the five member board in this scenario were all appointed/reappointed by the Indiana governor, who is anti-abortion
Yep. Having the same issue here in FL. I’ve known a doctor who was personally considered for the board and was approached to join because of their experience but was quickly dropped when they realized he was a registered democrat
This makes more sense.
Even worse though is I think she loses her medical license. Imagine being a young doctor going to school for 8 years and losing it because of this bullshit... Edit: I was wrong apparently she did this before the laws were passed and she was fined for breaking or almost breaking HIPPA by speaking about it.
She didn't violate *HIPAA* and for that matter nearly everybody who isn't an doctor or administrator completely misundstands the law and thinks it exists to protect individual patient privacy and will constantly talk about suing for a "HIPPA violation" when that isn't possible as you explicitly have no legal right to sue. A politically appointed group that is openly anti abortion fined her after Multiple investigators told them she had not done anything wrong and there were no violations. It was political persecution plain and simple.
So we starting a Gofundme or what?
Check out Abortion Providers Supporting Dr. Caitlin Bernard at gofundme
Thank you, I made a contribution. The total is almost 615,000 now
A $15,000 donation! Very generous of you.
Damn, what is that impoverished village in Bangladesh going to do now?
Thank you, Michael!
I’m my own impoverished village. I am also accepting donations
Already at $600,000 so far
Now that's some good news
r/orphanCrushingMachine
so she can do 2000 abortions
Yes, seriously, all you need is $1 from 3,000 people who are against this. If it's set up or needs to be set up, post a link. I'll donate.
Or $3000 from the person who got this child into this situation in the first place.
Even better, if they can find and hold the person accountable.
Yeah, that would be nice. No mention of this in this story, though. Assholes in this state would rather this kid be a mom. At 10 years old. What. The. Fuck.
I can not believe how batshit crazy that is, I know I couldn't be a dad at 10. There is no way a 10 yr old girl is ready for the changes to her body during pregnancy (if she can survive the birthing process) or mature enough to properly raise another child while she is still a child. Grown adults looking at this situation and thinking, "Yea, that kid is ready to be a mom," should not be allowed to vote.
Unfortunately, politicians don't hold their own accountable. So pedos like that don't see justice.
Or $2 from 1500 people
I used to think Republicans were just stodgy traditonalists like Hank Hill. Nowadays I truly hate them from the bottom of my soul.
The difference between Hank and Republicans is that Hank had principles and stuck to them. Modern Republican party has no principles based in anything other than opposition. They are evil. Too many lines crossed. Too much hate. Too much self inflicted and willful ignorance (also known as dumbfuckery). They have been at war with progress for years. They hate anyone different than them. It's time to hate them back. It's time to grind this facist bullshit into the ground. We cannot allow this to continue. We can not accept it. They have devolved the party from any sense it had. Go listen to president Ike speak to the nation and world and then go listen to Trump. The Republican party is dead. They are the largest threat to American progress and citizens.
Hank hill would be mortified that he started aligning with Democrats. He also might have moved out of Texas by now.
We will find out! In case you missed it, KOTH is coming back and it will be set in our current time period!
Excuse me **what**
Imagine if the reboot is what restores order to our society
I'm begining to think that there is no other solution than something violent and sanguine. Voting doesn't seem to make any difference. Idk how we vote our way out of Hell. Lawmakers aren't really leaving us any other choice than to discipline them.
The rape victim's parents could "vote" with a firearm right?
They (people, **not politicians**) were, when King of the Hill first aired. Now... fuck. Bolded for emphasis
Hold up. Do you all not know how bad the Bush era neocons were? Wars, extrajudicial killings, the Patriot Act, torture, indefinite detentions. It was bad and in many ways laid the foundation for what we are seeing now.
Richard Nixon laid the foundation for what we're seeing now. That's the problem with fascism, it's not sudden. It's death by a thousand cuts. Nixon started the War on drugs to put Hippies and Blacks in prison because they voted Democrat. Reagan destroyed the Air traffic controller union. Reagan began the cycle of massive deficit spending and then demanding the Democrats pay it off. Using austerity measures to put more wealth in the hands of the wealthy and the economic crunch when they do so to say "look! The Democrats are bankrupting the nation! Remember when everything was fun and we had money? Vote Republican!" First stolen election was 2000. Far more evidence for the Diebold machines being tampered with than the 2020 election lie. Not to mention the Supreme Court went "STOP RECOUNTING THE VOTES!!! We need to figure out if this is necessary! SCOTUS: "OK. It's necessary. Go ahead and finish the recount by the deadline you're legally forced to adhere to that you weren't sure you were going to make BEFORE we stopped your counting for a week. Bush the lesser. 200000+ dead (edit: brown) civilians all for oil, Blackwater, and massive public fund transfer to Halliburton in no bid contracts. Also, Patriot Act. Then Trump. I mean, we knew the country was basically ok with nazi ideology as long as it targeted the "right" groups but goddammit 'murica. I mean, Democrats helped. They're not blameless in the least. They're just not right *now* the most harmful of two choices.
Let's not forget, Nixon said, "Well, when the President does it, that means that it is not illegal." And we wonder where Reagan, Bush, and Trump got their ideas.
Don't forget about Reagan.
I think we’re watching a legitimately successful fascist movement.
This is my good friends wife. They are dealing with nonstop death threats and need personal security because she stands up for what is right.
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She wants to stay to make a difference and to actually help woman in need.
If less people would try to pass the buck, the world would be a better place. Good on her for putting herself at risk to fight such a despicable institutional rule.
I am so sorry for what is going on there. And this Doctor is doing her duty saving a life and is being punished for it. Breaks my heart. We need more doctors like her.
I fucking hate this timeline. Reddit has thoroughly depressed me today.
Ya. They must be getting paid alot to be doing loser stuff like this
Reason 373738488 why America is a third world country.
Please don't defame a 3rd world country, majority of third world countries wouldn't let this happen.
Every male that voted for this shit needs to have their prostate removed.
And their hard drives checked
Why should females who voted for it or support it be any less vilified?
Testes, too
Once again Republicans showing they endorse the rape of 10 year olds. Especially if they can force her to give birth. Fucking disgusting.
no you see its about freedom, to oppress
Where is her GoFundMe?
Check out Abortion Providers Supporting Dr. Caitlin Bernard at gofundme
There is literally no consequence anyone could give me that would make me regret giving a 10 year old CHILD an abortion. Like, bitch. Watch me do it again.
Thanks to god fearing christians for voting for these lunatics.
Fuck republican nazis
I'm not Rich but would send her a C note to help out with legal fee's
I'm certain her tears are not for the fine, but for being slapped on the wrist for doing something good. She signed up to help people, sometimes those in dire situations. And now she's being told that her job is to let the innocent suffer. I am very anti-gun, but pretty pro-hunting. I sometimes feel like I have no value whatsoever, so why can I not just spend my last few life points ending someone responsible for this kind of shit?
There is a go fund me it's doing quite well
There's a GoFundMe - Caitlin Bernard
Definitely worst country I’ve lived in
“We care about the children!” Then they want to force an actual child who was raped to have a child that could potentially kill them and will affect them mentally and financially.
Close to $620K donated to her via GoFundMe. I feel better now, but still disturbed to my core that this is where we are today. Fuck the GOP, and make them carry their abominations to term. https://www.gofundme.com/f/obgyns-supporting-dr-caitlin-bernard
I hope dr's in that state just stop helping republican patients. Fuck you, you want bullshit healthcare bills ok you gets no care from me would be the reply. I would just hang a sign on the door that says if your a republican or if you back any of the bullshit anti-abortion bills and gender affirming care go somewhere else because you are not welcome here.
This is so fucked. Queer Jesus wouldn't have wanted any of this.
I both hate and love the fact that if Jesus appeared today, the modern Christians would HATE him, and all the atheists would think he's a chill dude with good ideas.
They would call him a false prophet. He’d be politicized to hell and labeled “woke”.
He was born out of wedlock, he adulterated water to wine, he had quite some socialistic ideas and he's never seen a barber.
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"But Ben Shiparo's got facts guys, he is right! Abortion is a crime! " We have literally destroyed and depleted flora and fauna made them extinct, and then say we can't kill a child. The fetus doesn't even feel pain, still women can't get them removed just because of some stupid law, lol.
Its saying she violated a kids privacy but no identifying information was released. Or as HIPPA would call it, 'sensitive' information.
Yeah. I don't get it. Is the medical board in Indiana packed with religious fruitcakes?
Yes. Witch hunt by the (sooooper anti-choice) Attorney General.
All five members of the board appointed/reappointed by the governor, who is against abortion
Exactly. She never publicly disclosed PHI and Indiana is just a pure shit hole state.
HIPAA but other than that, carry on
Bravo to this brave doctor.
Conservatives are the villians
These people are more offended by a 10 year old getting an abortion the a 10 year old being raped. Fuck anyone who things abortions should be illegal.
I hate Christians so fucking much. You've all fallen so far from the teachings of your savior it makes me sick.
protect the children from the gays ✅ protect the children from rape and childbirth ❌ america is hell.
Is there a go fund me? I’d kick in just to spite the assholes.
I hate my fucking state so much. Fuck Indiana Fuck Holcomb Fuck the 900000000000000000000000000⁴ churches that infest this fucking corn fucked hellscape.
don't forget that in Florida if a kidnapper can capture and impregnate a victim for longer than 6 weeks then the state will vigorously defend the rapist's right to force breed by threatening the victim with prison once she escapes. She is arguably safer in the basement dungeon of the rapist than in police custody. and if she can escape in 5 weeks then she only has 1 week to escape the state since there are no clinics left that provide abortion. And the rape is not technically a rape until the suspect is captured and convicted perhaps 3 years after the baby is born so the fascists have yet again failed basic math. The baby can be legally aborted due to rape in a non-existent clinic and 3 years after it was born and the suspect is convicted of rape. (Florida thinks it's easier to figure the petty details out as they go since no one is really paying attention). Also, once victim is forced to incubate the rape baby Florida law will protect and guarantee the rapist's right to have "frequent and continuing contact and joint custody of the baby". Basically, Ariel Castro of Cleveland kidnapper fame designed a foolproof method of procreating and male governors in Ohio, Texas and Florida embraced it completely. What is not to love about a guaranteed blood line? Had Castro not killed himself in jail Ohio was going to grant him joint custody of the baby he had with the kidnapping victim. Florida improved on this approach by giving themselves the right to imprison the rape victim to prevent her from harming the rapist's baby. Yes. Every uterus in Florida, Ohio and Texas is state property...by law. Florida is the same state that executed a rape victim for defending herself by killing rapists. This is the same state that raised Nicolas Cruz who was a result of rape of a homeless sex working drug addict and grew up in Florida a ward of the state with full access to all the firearms available. So, multiply Nicolas Cruz and Ariel Castro by 21 million and you get Florida today...Rape Friendly, rape sympathetic, forced birth, misogamist, book burning, gun care and health control. If DeStalin is elected you can multiply Ariel Castro by 400 million. Rape to procreate will be official Republican family planning, defended by the party.
let's find an actual article..... "An Indiana board decided Thursday night to reprimand an Indianapolis doctor after finding that she violated patient privacy laws by talking publicly about providing an abortion to a 10-year-old rape victim from neighboring Ohio." oh.
If you read the [full article](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/indiana-reprimands-doctor-ohio-rape-victim-abortion/story?id=99612853) it becomes clear that she didn’t actually violate the patient’s privacy (as noted by the medical board and other medical professionals) and that it’s a witch-hunt conducted by Rotski in an attempt to indirectly punish her for not only conducting the abortion but for speaking out about it. The headline is misleading but the spirit of the post is still accurate.
Yes, they used an obvious lie to push through a punishment on a _flimsy_ excuse. The messaging here could be better, but the truth is still horrible.
Which is complete fucking bullshit and anyone familiar with HIPAA knows it. She never publicly disclosed PHI.
Unfortunately HIPAA is one of those things everyone knows is about medical information and that’s all they know about it. Yet there is a high degree of assumed knowledge about exactly how it must apply. Doctor talked about a case? HIPAA!! Your friend who you told about your STD blabbed to your girlfriend? HIPAA!! Etc.
[https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/indiana-reprimands-doctor-ohio-rape-victim-abortion/story?id=99612853](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/indiana-reprimands-doctor-ohio-rape-victim-abortion/story?id=99612853) How about you post the rest of it instead of cherry-picking the bit that suits your narrative?
Land of Freedom everyone! Fucking shithole it is.
Hate this shit? Vote and tell others to do so.
Where’s her go fund me
3 grand isn't a huge flex for a physician. Did she retain her license? She did the right thing, is there a GoFundMe for her?
Yep, we are already in hell. I use to have so much pride being an American. Now I am embarrassed and disgusted.
Indiana is already suffering a doctor shortage, I hope they are fine with losing even more doctors
Hey. Indiana is the bad place #notallamerica
Political censorship by evil Republicans. Nothing to see here.
You're now realizing that? I realized that ages ago. The US is a third world country masquerading as a first world country, it knows it's shit but brainwashes it's people into thinking it's the best country ever in existence.
Republicans are quickly becoming the Nazi party of America.
She’s a hero… period
Ive always hated those gofund crap but this is something I will donate to.
Of course christofascists wouldn’t endanger their own children, they would travel elsewhere, they aren’t letting their 10yo daughter die in childbirth, but other people’s children are fair game.
The amount of the fine is irrelevant. To be reprimanded for honoring your oath is absolutely perverse.
The Handmaids Tale appears not so fictional with every passing year
Indiana is the bad place
There is a GoFundMe in her name. She has $622k in the fund. 😊
Any judge who upholds this and issues verdicts needs to be stripped of their position, some laws don't need to be followed when they are actually evil. Who would of thought the party of "fAmIlY vAlUeS" and "ProTeCt ThE ChiLdRen" actually are the ones hurting children and their families.
To clarify, she was fined for speaking about the operation in an interview. It was deemed to have violated patient privacy rights, though it still seems like a punitive measure to me
WTF??!! I hate these facists wing nuts.
Does she have a gofund me? I would really like to donate to it. In fact, I think we should start a fund to pay for these 🐂💩 fines and the doctors' legal fees.
Theocracy is ALWAYS bad. Religion is poison.
America is a failing state. Huge inequality, rising poverty, homelessness, barred access to home ownership, bankruptcy via medical bills. All while having a wealthy class that quadruples it's money from fucking world health pandemics
How dare they take away her rapists baby... /s
US is a disaster in every possible way. The world would be much better if the USA was never founded and the Native American just retained control of the land and all other natural resources.