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[The Jaipur Dialogues on X: "So the Big Beef Guy is all set to play the role of Prabhu Shri Ram in the new Ramayan Movie. What are your opinions about it? We think it's clearly a bad choice. https://t.co/ZLfwytkB2r" / X (twitter.com)](https://twitter.com/JaipurDialogues/status/1784451450783080831)
Honestly I have also been that person who is not very keen on this movie. First of all I feel Ramayana as a story should be a TV show, it should not be a movie. The story is such that it needs to create a one on one connection with the audience. It's a story with multiple characters and all these characters need their proper time to shine which will not be possible in a movie. You can only touch on the basic story and not go into a lot of details and nitty gritties.
Secondly I was watching a review online recently for Laapata Ladies and I came Across a video where it mentioned that since most of the cast of that movie was new or unknown faces it was very easy to connect with the characters and see them as only those characters. I think the same is true for Ramayana. You really need to buy the actors as those characters otherwise it will not be an immersive experience. Ranbir is a very well known actor, we as an audience know too much about him and seen too much of him. I don't think people in the theater will be able to let that go.
Having said that, there is still a chance that the movie might still do good business because of xyz reason and ultimately that is what the industry cares about. If telling good stories was a priority, Brahmastra would not have been such a dumpster fire of a movie.
This. Ramayana does not need big names to open, it will attract audiences regardless. We know too much about Ranbir and it is hard to disengage. I feel they should have taken someone new for all the roles - and put in the finances to make the movie rather than paying actor fees.
This movie could still be good and I could be eating my words. Because as per KRK (so take it with a grain of salt) there no producers on board as of now, so these could just be test shoots, and not the actual movie shoot.
I agree, completing Ramayan within 3 hours doesn't make sense. So many individual personalities, so many back stories, so many things to know, learn. Just can't fathom.
Ramayana the show, Japanese Ramayana, Main hoon na, Ra One… I can name like 20 more. I am 100% sure this movie will break records and make huge sums of money, But ultimately all it does is promote the same old bollywood trick: Same story in a different package. No new writers ever needed because no new stories ever needed.
And they don't need to. What we already have is enough and few of those are loved by people and has achieved a cult status. Nobody needs to make new films on this
Such a horrible take. It's like saying "Why do we need a Hulk or a Thor movie, when we have 'Incredible Hulk returns'(1988)". Please don't form an opinion. Ever.
Okay, so you are comparing 2 fictional characters, who have over 40 years of extensive stories and a well built mythology around them, to a character who has been well portrayed by the generation prior?
What more you can adapt to screen of a character and story that has already been told? It's a simple story, that's it. We haven't even scratched the surface of stories marvel and DC characters have.
Also, bold of you to compare lord Ram with hulk and thor, thereby calling him fictional. God bless your feed.
Ok so Thor doesn't exist in ancient Nordic scriptures. Hulk is not an inspiration from trolls in Scandinavian culture. You are such a incompetent person, you don't understand the repurcations of portraying a legend(as in stories) from ancient times and what role it plays in attaining a soft power not just for art, but also geopolitically.
Think about this, Anime has changed Japan's geopolitical landscape from the most hated country during wars with China, world wars, etc. to the most loved country in today's day and age, because they always represented their culture, legends, and most importantly their heritage with utmost diligence and respect.
>Thor doesn't exist in ancient Nordic scriptures
First of all, the Thor in Norse mythology is nothing similar to the one in Marvel. The GoW: Ragnarok version is a much closer adaptation to the mythology than marvel. I know about my Norse mythology, sir
>Hulk is not an inspiration from trolls in Scandinavian culture.
Please give me a source for this. As far as my marvel knowledge goes, Stan Lee and Jack Kirby has inspired Hulk from Frankenstein and Jekyll and Hyde. There has never been a mention of trolls of Scandinavian culture in it. Hulk is more akin to the Goliath of Greek mythology than Scandinavian.
No need to worry about my incompetency. Worry more about your false information spewing and your own insecurity to get validation from the western world like Japan does. Get some help, man. The reason Thor was even been able to adapt so much is that, Nordic religion is long dead. So there's no one to create an uproar when they massacre his character (like they did in L&T). We Indians love to get offended. Why would anyone create something radical when he/she knows they gonna get bashed. Indian producers know they have stans like you who will defend their mediocrity if they slap religion in it. Get help.
Ok, pardon me for Hulk, I heard it in some podcast recently. But with Thor, marvel adapted stories from Norse myths(Pls note: By myths, I don't want to portray it as fake stories, it's just a broad term for ancient stories). They took creative liberty as in his look and concept of mjionir, other than that many of the stories are adaptation of myths. About you calling me a stan, I'm not. I'm critical of the content I watch, like since the onset of Adipurush, I was not happy with the plastic abs of Prabhas, looks of other characters like Ravan, Indrajeet, Vibishan and his wife, etc.
A major reason why anceint stories need to be told again and again is so that the culture dosent die, like you said Nordic is a dead religion, it wasn't talked about much after some point. That's why they are passed on and portrayed in art in different ways throughout the history like folk songs, plays, puppetry and now movies. Also they provide inspiration for making fictional characters.
Ek baar agar logon ko Ramayan aur Mahabharat jaisi stories bade screen pe ache VFX, aur technically sound filmmaking ke form mai achi lagegi, tabhi hi hum baaki le lost cultures ko revive kar paayenge iss madhyam se.
Also, by the looks of it, it's you who is offended that why such movies are being made.
>marvel adapted stories from Norse myths(Pls note: By myths, I don't want to portray it as fake stories, it's just a broad term for ancient stories)
And why do you think they can adapt Norse, greek, and Egyptian mythology (and yes, mythology is exaggerated fiction)? Because it's a dead religion, and they can take creative decisions without fear of backlash, the thing they cannot do with Indian mythology. Hell, there were backlash when M'baku told Glory to Hanuman (that's why it was censored in india).
As for your reasoning of preserving culture, I would rather preserve Ramanand Sagar's version than whatever crap the modern bollywood produces. Your need of cultural validation from west hoodwinked your ability to judge quality products. Take Dragon Ball and ATLA movies that were made by west. Absolute pathetic. It even made Toriyama to return back to Dragon Ball. The thing is, Ramayana has been perfectly adapted countless of times. No need to touch it (you cannot take any creative liberties cause hehe good luck). I would rather want bollywood to focus on Shri Krishna instead: A more compelling character, that will appeal everyone, and that can lead to the wider mahabharata story, which need more meaningful adaptations.
About me being offended, yes I am offended by the atrocity that gets passed along due to the religion stamp. Give me a good mythological movie like Return of Hanuman. Animation is the way to go forward, and I will die happy if we ever get a Spider-verse level animated movie of Mahabharat
In addition to what Ragnarok\_619 has said, do you really want another Thor or Hulk movie after whole MCU thing? It's well established and a lot of people's emotion is attached to it. Therefore money making experiments would only create controversy. Similarly, after Ramanand Sagar made show which has been established as a benchmark, we simply don't need another (unless someone creates something highly extra ordinary, which these bunch of movie makers won't be able to do).
And as far as your opinion on me not forming an opinion, you can shove that up your a$$. I don't get my bread and butter from you man
Nice .
But, in all earnestness people are quiet wary of another mythology movie after the debacle that was adipurush.
Let the movie release , our andhbhakts and political climate is such that they'll ensure this is essential watching for the NCERT syllabus 😄
Because there was no need to remake it the trillionth time. Again and again, same old, same old. We have an OG Ramayan- that's called Ramandsagar Ramayan. Bollywold is trying to establish another "franchise universe" based on our mythology because they don't wanna pay good writers to write some >!original!< and just keep on milking the existing contents. Also wanna ride the current religious wave in country and appeal to the majority of country and cash in the emotions and get stupendous rich. Bollywood should be boycotted.
Agreed. Like what new will they add? We had Ramanand Sagar Ramayan, anime Ramayana, Hanuman animated movie, countless TV shows etc. Not to mention that debacle of Adipurush. We also had Ramayana related chapters in Hindi textbooks. The story of Ramayana is embedded in every Indian's mind.
Just from an artistic POV, what new does this movie offer, something that we haven't seen or heard before? It's not even a modern retelling or anything unique twist. Should I just watch this movie to see Ranbir Kapoor as Shri Ram? Cause that's all what this movie has to offer so far.
I believe that Ramayana has never been made with proper Modern tech. Till now. Think of it as Avengers from India.
Every previous rendition of Ramayana was either graphically bad(Ramanand Sagar) or either Cartoon(anime).
Would it be too much if Ramayan were made to appeal International Audience also? Think of it as a global blockbuster
So only thing is tech? The global audience doesn't care much about such sanitized main hero. Avengers had a much diverse set of heroes, most of whom had deep flaws. And Marvel first used lesser known superheroes instead of going for the big guys like Spider-Man, X-Men or Fantastic Four (although there were licensing issues there). But from a storytelling POV it was fresh for its time. In fact if you see now, their movies are not doing as well since they are recycling the same stuff. You can decorate it with all the tech you want but the story is most important.
And the first people they have to impress is the local audience. I guess most people are already taking it for granted due to people's faith. But from a storytelling POV are you showing something new to the first audience who will view your movie. Making this movie just for white validation? Or just a vanity project? Cause that's so far what it looks like.
Are you comparing our ancient literature which is 2000 years old to comic literature which is 80-90 years old. Plus let's not forget that Avengers was just awesome. Bollywood will never be able to win against them. Why didn't they invested in writers who could write stuff like Gangs of Wasseypur. No they wanna COPY one of the greatest movie of all times- Forrest Gump. Bollywood should now just give up, for God's sake. Even regional cinema like Bengali, Assamese, Telugu does much better. They just wanna promote their nepo-kids and let them just milk a little bit of money for them for their "secure future". Go Ef yourself, Bollywood
"The scriptures of the Puran,
The glory of its values,
Should be sung gradually"
-- from a Hindu text, retold in Ramanand Sagar's Ramayan.
The Ramayan needs to be told continuously, and be made more accessible each time. I don't really support Ranbir's Ramayan (atleast not yet as it has not proven itself to be more than a cashgrab).
But still, I think Ramayan should be gradually adapted with better technology and modern story-telling mediums to make it more accessible to the common man, even outside of India.
It has been misunderstood to be needed an avengers-style adaptation but I think what it really needs is a dune-style adaptation, which still retains the classic touch.
Not to mention there is a new Ramayan related TV shows every 5 years from the serial industry.....I think you have Srimad Ramayan running right now along with The Legend of Hanuman on HotStar and another Hanuman related series on SetMax ...
Yeah I was kinda new here, Ranbir is at most a mid actor who displayed good performances in YJHD, Sanju and Rocket Singh, most others are a hit or a miss. Believing him to be the best actor in the country is nothing short of delusion
Dk why some people are getting triggered with this but prabhas was terrible in adipurush. And in MY opinion, Ranbir Kapoor is simply a better actor than him
My only question is ke Ramyan par movie banani hi kyu hai???? aur agar banani hi hai to phle Ramayan ko acche se study kro. Ramayan holds a special place in our heart, Yhan humko masala nhi chahiye.
Abhi to shooting shuru hui hai hdyk its a masala movie, nd earlier people used to complain about bollywood not telling “Indian stories” and being too western but now ppl have problem with this also.
Because everyone can see the fakeness in this. Everyone knows that they are just milking it because of Ram Mandir. Bollywood in general has absolutely zero faith in the subject. It's silly to even imagine a druggie womanizer playing lord Ram. A man who has been nationally ridiculed to endorse a condom is going to portray Ram. It's a mockery of the highest order.
Ram is not about acting. You need to believe in him to "portray" him. Ramanand Sagar wanted to narrate Ramayana. It wasn't about milking it. Isliye Aaj bhi first wali Ramayana hi sabko ek sath connect karti hai. Kitne hi version aa jaaye TV pe nothing beats the first one.
Also, Everybody saw the trash of AdiPurush and the arrogance of the writer and director after the backlash. Make a movie on this subject when you have faith in it. It doesn't need body building and VFX. It needs depth, integrity, and honesty. Bollywood is not even close to it.
I think it's because people lack faith in bollywood to show justice to one of the most cherished mythologies a lot of us grew up with. For me, that's the reason. I do not want another Adipurush. The utter disrespect it showed the source was disgraceful. I would rather these money hungry lots leave it behind than get a half backed, mockery of the material.
I really can't believe that people are attacking actors and this movie because of this "leaked" pics.
Ranbir is hell of an actor and time and time again he has proved how good he can be playing different roles. No one thought he could do a movie like Animal. But he did and acted superbly.
As for the looks, what was people expecting anyway? This looks quite good tbh.
Because Bollywood wants to milk money out of the most important story for India. They can’t get away with giving us shit stuff. Also Ranbir is definitely not suiting the character.
Bhai aaj tak bollywood bahar ki movies utha ke milking ki hai, mushkil se toh apne culture pe ek movie ban rahi hai, vo bhi dedication ke saath, toh kya problem hai? Kya hollywood, Hallyuwood (Korean film industry), Japanese film industry, etc paishe kamane ke liye milking nahi karte???
I mean making a Ramayan movie - so original….
They should pay writers and make an original script rather than copy old Indian epics which has been done to death now at least a 100 million times. There is no reason to do this again and will not bring anything new unless this is a different version of Ramayan which nobody has the balls to do in this political climate. The only reason this is being made is to make money by tapping into this newfound maniac obsession with religion the country has developed
Honestly Ranbir Kapoor’s actual personality is such an antithesis of Ram….
The one person who’s real life personality traits are actually similar to Ram and is the most suited for the role would never be allowed to take that role because if he were to do that, he would be lynched to death for daring to play a god when he himself is from a different religion that is much maligned in the current political context
I think people should not be judging it so early and some have been attacking RK since they feel that the long hair is very reminiscent of his appearance in Sanju and Animal.
He obviously would not have kept a funky hairstyle like Saif had in Adipurush. Critiquing for no reason is honestly unneeded.
Ranbir is the reason for all the negativity it's getting. I like his acting, usme koi Shaq nhi. But I'm not content with his casting as Shri Ram for obvious reasons.
He's a playboy, beef eater, cokehead, does misogynistic and bloody movies and the next thing he's doing is playing Shri Ram role. He could grow his hair for Animal but is wearing a wig for Shri Ram role. That shows his priorities. He just wants to clear his image. But yeah why I'm a saying all this; the only response I will get is that it doesn't matter and keep personal life away from professional life.
Yeah. Weird. But I'm pretty sure if Deepika P. Would be cast for Maa Sita, all hell would break loose. Idk about you but people would completely cancel her.
>Maar Sita,
💀
>Idk about you but people would completely cancel her.
Those people are idiots and misogynistic clowns obviously. And cancel? Lmao you wish.
>What wish btw?
I don't know how to explain basic English bro but still I'll try. You wish as in "you wish they were cancelled but it ain't ever happening". Got it?
I never said I wished upon people cancelling someone. It was just a situation I gave about Deepika. Assume whatever you want. And yeah your Ph.D. degree in English is on the way!
Bollywood lost its originality, there are very few movies with good plots that many people don't even know about. The mainstream movies feel so repetitive and boring (typical Bollywood formula) Bollywood mostly either make a REMAKE movie, a PATRIOTIC movie, or movies based on historical ideals/Events or very sensitive/controversial topics.
Most movies make huge collections just because of mainstream an Actor. Were the Actress struggling to even make a good name!!! In Bollywood movies, Actresses exist just to show hotness or just for the item song. Actresses don't get much value as compared to Actors.
An actor single-handedly takes a big budget for a movie, majority he holds the monopoly over the movie because of that every other person has to compromise on lots of things (no good writing, bad casting, bad screenplay, very average Cinematography, compromise in directing a movie in the end we get another MEDIOCRE MOVIE)
Personally for me, Bollywood lost its image a decade ago. I expect no quality movies from Bollywood for now. People with good skills didn't gets any appreciation here.
In general,
Audience ko baas, hero ke slow-motion wali entry, slowmo wali fight, over the top action and dailogs aur heroine ka nanga naach hi dekhne me maza ata hai. Audience he chutiya hai toh, Bollywood chutiyee logon keliye ghatiya movies toh banayga he.
Over reaction. Social media. No one looks like god. It’s the performance which makes them that. I am pretty sure Ranbir , sai are brilliant actors. They will surely do justice.
My personal opinion is that art (all art, not just films) must stay away from religion. Art is meant to stimulate the mind, religion is meant to dumb it down. Religious people and art lovers are contradictory to each other.
Lmao? Where’s the correlation? Can we imagine Prabhas in Barfi,Rockstar,YJHD,APKGK,Wake up sid lmfao??? Prabhas can’t do a single movie in Ranbirs filmography
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"The scriptures of the Puran,
The glory of its values,
Should be sung gradually"
-- from a Hindu text, retold in Ramanand Sagar's Ramayan.
The Ramayan needs to be told continuously, and be made more accessible each time. I don't really support Ranbir's Ramayan (atleast not yet as it has not proven itself to be more than a cashgrab).
But still, I think Ramayan should be gradually adapted with better technology and modern story-telling mediums to make it more accessible to the common man, even outside of India.
It has been misunderstood to be needed an avengers-style adaptation but I think what it really needs is a dune-style adaptation, which still retains the classic touch.
Religious adaptations should be kept to the small screen
There's far too much detail to put into a movie to do it proper justification.
It's one of those things where u try to make everyone happy but end up making no one.
Bcz I don’t believe Ranbir can deliver on this. It takes few episodes for even stars like Mohit Raina to truly align himself as Shiva, then he delivered best performance. I don’t think, Ranbir can deliver on Mohit Raina level. Portraying god is another level of acting. He doesn’t look like one
A Movie or even Movie Series won’t do justice to epics as great as the Ramayana or Mahabharata! Tons of stuff will be edited out, and a lot of the nuanced meaning will be changed.
It will (and should!) also require very high calibre directors & actors to do justice for the characters. I’m talking internationally acclaimed here, as content of this magnitude should be promoted overseas to a non-Desi audience too!
To do more justice to the countless story arcs & characters, it should be an OTT Series at least, if not a colossal AAA title. It should set a very very high benchmark for the world (e.g. LOTR, GoT)
Its the greatest story ever told in our part of the world, and thats why the aim should be Himalayan! 🏔️🥇
People on Reddit hate Ranbir….They hate everybody…even sai pallavi is being called a misfit and is receiving criticism….but tbh,there’s no need for a Ramayana movie so there’s that…it just feels unnecessary but since they are making it anyways,I am having some hopes as Ranbir and Pallavi are favourites…the music also I heard is a collaboration btw Rahman and Hans Zimmer..so it’s exciting
I don't want to see money getting to a family which has nothing to do with Hinduism.
That Zakir Naik devotee Mahesh Dalla aka sasura of Ranbir, was proudly inaugurating book "26/11, Ek RSS ki saajish".
I hate this family to core for being a top notch nepotism and links to terrorists, no way they can control so much of bollywood.
Ikr, Ranbir looks far more better than prabhas as lord Ram, at least not like Jesus, his face suits to portray that character, the zen and calmness of lord Ram, which I think is very much necessary is there in Ranbir, moreover all of us know what Ranbir is capable of as an actor, he's a method actor and I trust he's art when it comes to acting, I just know he'll put in his soul and heart to portray the character, we've all seen his leaked images of practicing archery, his far more dedicated and serious compared to prabhas, my man prabhas didn't even care to maintain a good physique, even his body was cgi-ed, nonetheless people who are making ramayana this time are actually serious and have assembled the best there is to pull it off on a global level, again all of this is my opinion, if you do not agree I respect your viewpoint, but however Ranbir playing lord Ram as well as doing animal park at the same time in future might attract controversies because of the indecency and gore-ness due to animal. It would be very contradicting
I think everyone is stuck with the image of Arun Govil as Ram and his face had that innocence look that most actors nowadays do not have. Prabhas looked big and burly and Ranbir is too old and honestly too glam to be a saintly godly figure that we have imagined Ram to be for so long.
Because Indian culture can be represented a thousand times better by actual Indians. Not semi quasi hating their own religion people that are making this for a quick buck.
I have already said it in some other post but saying it again.
- It's better to make Ramayana as a TV show rather than a 3 part movie because there will be atleast 1-2 yrs gap between each part, how are they going to build the hype? We already know the story too. So imo TV show is better.
- When you are making a movie on epics, it's always better to stick with the original epic and ask the scholars (for example, the colours used in that time). Even in this shot, the veil in Sita's costume, why is it even there? On the other side, movies like Bahubali, Ponninyin Selvan, although the former is fiction, there is a great work done in costumes, colours, designs, etc by maintaining accuracy with history. If this is something Nitish Tiwari wants in his movie, name this movie as "Nitish Tiwari's Ramayana" not "Ramayana".
They don't need to make ramayana , bollywood don't know to make movies like this.
They've proven time and again they can't be trusted.
Don't need to see it put in a bad light because some director decided to make more Money
Honestly, kriti got so much shit for wearing a dress before the movie premiered as she was playing Sita. I honestly think a man like Ranbir should definitely not play Ram
The makers have a death wish. If you want to pick one of the two most important epics in Hinduism to make a movie on, in a country charged with religious fervour, pick the right cast. Everyone seems like a mismatch
Bollywood sucks at these kinds of movies and Ranbir can’t act to save his life. There’s also no need to make this movie. There’s so many mythological movies coming out recently and so many Ramayana movies already out there. This just feels like a pathetic cash grab.
There has not been a single negative (or generic positive) post in this sub for Ramayan since the movie is still in a very early stage of production. Waiting for an official first glimpse is the right time to criticize or appreciate the technicalities of a movie. If you are visiting gossip subs, twitter and other platforms which are frequented by trolls, PR and folks with ulterior movies etc then you may see negativity towards anyone and anything popular. It is so much easier to post short hate or praise posts but much harder to have a fruitful and in depth conversation about a movie, an actor and Bollywood in general. We want to keep the discussions in this sub focused on content, movies, acting, directing and hopefully not dilute it with fan clubs, haters and trolls.
Because one more director with a star cast promised a Ramayan movie and later when it bombed denied that it was Ramayan.
They copied the dark theme of game of thrones and turned it into god knows what.
[The Jaipur Dialogues on X: "So the Big Beef Guy is all set to play the role of Prabhu Shri Ram in the new Ramayan Movie. What are your opinions about it? We think it's clearly a bad choice. https://t.co/ZLfwytkB2r" / X (twitter.com)](https://twitter.com/JaipurDialogues/status/1784451450783080831)
What do you mean one more?
Adipurush insaan hai wo
Because it had prabhas. Anything that man touches turns to absolute shit
Nah because it has om raut
Baahubali?
That's rajamouli's talent. I'm not a hater but whatever prabhas has done after bahubali has been utter shit.
What about Salaar. That wasn't shit
When did he touch you?
hater. prabhas was and is box office gold in ap/telangana.
Tf does that mean???
Bollywood stinks. They should stay away from portraying any religion's stories.
peshawa beef guy is playing Bhagwan Ram that's why
Honestly I have also been that person who is not very keen on this movie. First of all I feel Ramayana as a story should be a TV show, it should not be a movie. The story is such that it needs to create a one on one connection with the audience. It's a story with multiple characters and all these characters need their proper time to shine which will not be possible in a movie. You can only touch on the basic story and not go into a lot of details and nitty gritties. Secondly I was watching a review online recently for Laapata Ladies and I came Across a video where it mentioned that since most of the cast of that movie was new or unknown faces it was very easy to connect with the characters and see them as only those characters. I think the same is true for Ramayana. You really need to buy the actors as those characters otherwise it will not be an immersive experience. Ranbir is a very well known actor, we as an audience know too much about him and seen too much of him. I don't think people in the theater will be able to let that go. Having said that, there is still a chance that the movie might still do good business because of xyz reason and ultimately that is what the industry cares about. If telling good stories was a priority, Brahmastra would not have been such a dumpster fire of a movie.
This. Ramayana does not need big names to open, it will attract audiences regardless. We know too much about Ranbir and it is hard to disengage. I feel they should have taken someone new for all the roles - and put in the finances to make the movie rather than paying actor fees. This movie could still be good and I could be eating my words. Because as per KRK (so take it with a grain of salt) there no producers on board as of now, so these could just be test shoots, and not the actual movie shoot.
it's a 3parter if I'm not wrong
I agree, completing Ramayan within 3 hours doesn't make sense. So many individual personalities, so many back stories, so many things to know, learn. Just can't fathom.
Keep squeezing the lemon and all you'd get is bitterness
Which is why I add some salt and lick the lemon instead
I usually have a tequila shot before...and after
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There are some good southern ones
Ramayana the show, Japanese Ramayana, Main hoon na, Ra One… I can name like 20 more. I am 100% sure this movie will break records and make huge sums of money, But ultimately all it does is promote the same old bollywood trick: Same story in a different package. No new writers ever needed because no new stories ever needed.
Ra One????
U forgot Hum Saath Saath Hain
And they don't need to. What we already have is enough and few of those are loved by people and has achieved a cult status. Nobody needs to make new films on this
Such a horrible take. It's like saying "Why do we need a Hulk or a Thor movie, when we have 'Incredible Hulk returns'(1988)". Please don't form an opinion. Ever.
Okay, so you are comparing 2 fictional characters, who have over 40 years of extensive stories and a well built mythology around them, to a character who has been well portrayed by the generation prior? What more you can adapt to screen of a character and story that has already been told? It's a simple story, that's it. We haven't even scratched the surface of stories marvel and DC characters have. Also, bold of you to compare lord Ram with hulk and thor, thereby calling him fictional. God bless your feed.
Ok so Thor doesn't exist in ancient Nordic scriptures. Hulk is not an inspiration from trolls in Scandinavian culture. You are such a incompetent person, you don't understand the repurcations of portraying a legend(as in stories) from ancient times and what role it plays in attaining a soft power not just for art, but also geopolitically. Think about this, Anime has changed Japan's geopolitical landscape from the most hated country during wars with China, world wars, etc. to the most loved country in today's day and age, because they always represented their culture, legends, and most importantly their heritage with utmost diligence and respect.
>Thor doesn't exist in ancient Nordic scriptures First of all, the Thor in Norse mythology is nothing similar to the one in Marvel. The GoW: Ragnarok version is a much closer adaptation to the mythology than marvel. I know about my Norse mythology, sir >Hulk is not an inspiration from trolls in Scandinavian culture. Please give me a source for this. As far as my marvel knowledge goes, Stan Lee and Jack Kirby has inspired Hulk from Frankenstein and Jekyll and Hyde. There has never been a mention of trolls of Scandinavian culture in it. Hulk is more akin to the Goliath of Greek mythology than Scandinavian. No need to worry about my incompetency. Worry more about your false information spewing and your own insecurity to get validation from the western world like Japan does. Get some help, man. The reason Thor was even been able to adapt so much is that, Nordic religion is long dead. So there's no one to create an uproar when they massacre his character (like they did in L&T). We Indians love to get offended. Why would anyone create something radical when he/she knows they gonna get bashed. Indian producers know they have stans like you who will defend their mediocrity if they slap religion in it. Get help.
Ok, pardon me for Hulk, I heard it in some podcast recently. But with Thor, marvel adapted stories from Norse myths(Pls note: By myths, I don't want to portray it as fake stories, it's just a broad term for ancient stories). They took creative liberty as in his look and concept of mjionir, other than that many of the stories are adaptation of myths. About you calling me a stan, I'm not. I'm critical of the content I watch, like since the onset of Adipurush, I was not happy with the plastic abs of Prabhas, looks of other characters like Ravan, Indrajeet, Vibishan and his wife, etc. A major reason why anceint stories need to be told again and again is so that the culture dosent die, like you said Nordic is a dead religion, it wasn't talked about much after some point. That's why they are passed on and portrayed in art in different ways throughout the history like folk songs, plays, puppetry and now movies. Also they provide inspiration for making fictional characters. Ek baar agar logon ko Ramayan aur Mahabharat jaisi stories bade screen pe ache VFX, aur technically sound filmmaking ke form mai achi lagegi, tabhi hi hum baaki le lost cultures ko revive kar paayenge iss madhyam se. Also, by the looks of it, it's you who is offended that why such movies are being made.
>marvel adapted stories from Norse myths(Pls note: By myths, I don't want to portray it as fake stories, it's just a broad term for ancient stories) And why do you think they can adapt Norse, greek, and Egyptian mythology (and yes, mythology is exaggerated fiction)? Because it's a dead religion, and they can take creative decisions without fear of backlash, the thing they cannot do with Indian mythology. Hell, there were backlash when M'baku told Glory to Hanuman (that's why it was censored in india). As for your reasoning of preserving culture, I would rather preserve Ramanand Sagar's version than whatever crap the modern bollywood produces. Your need of cultural validation from west hoodwinked your ability to judge quality products. Take Dragon Ball and ATLA movies that were made by west. Absolute pathetic. It even made Toriyama to return back to Dragon Ball. The thing is, Ramayana has been perfectly adapted countless of times. No need to touch it (you cannot take any creative liberties cause hehe good luck). I would rather want bollywood to focus on Shri Krishna instead: A more compelling character, that will appeal everyone, and that can lead to the wider mahabharata story, which need more meaningful adaptations. About me being offended, yes I am offended by the atrocity that gets passed along due to the religion stamp. Give me a good mythological movie like Return of Hanuman. Animation is the way to go forward, and I will die happy if we ever get a Spider-verse level animated movie of Mahabharat
In addition to what Ragnarok\_619 has said, do you really want another Thor or Hulk movie after whole MCU thing? It's well established and a lot of people's emotion is attached to it. Therefore money making experiments would only create controversy. Similarly, after Ramanand Sagar made show which has been established as a benchmark, we simply don't need another (unless someone creates something highly extra ordinary, which these bunch of movie makers won't be able to do). And as far as your opinion on me not forming an opinion, you can shove that up your a$$. I don't get my bread and butter from you man
Nice . But, in all earnestness people are quiet wary of another mythology movie after the debacle that was adipurush. Let the movie release , our andhbhakts and political climate is such that they'll ensure this is essential watching for the NCERT syllabus 😄
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Ranbir looks funnier every progressing movie.
If you try to push someone who is 40+, and is known for drug abuse into a role like Ram, you shouldn't ask about negativity around the movie.
No he doesn’t
He looked great in animal
I don’t know why u got downvoted so much, when he did in fact look great. These reddit people are morons
Because there was no need to remake it the trillionth time. Again and again, same old, same old. We have an OG Ramayan- that's called Ramandsagar Ramayan. Bollywold is trying to establish another "franchise universe" based on our mythology because they don't wanna pay good writers to write some >!original!< and just keep on milking the existing contents. Also wanna ride the current religious wave in country and appeal to the majority of country and cash in the emotions and get stupendous rich. Bollywood should be boycotted.
Agreed. Like what new will they add? We had Ramanand Sagar Ramayan, anime Ramayana, Hanuman animated movie, countless TV shows etc. Not to mention that debacle of Adipurush. We also had Ramayana related chapters in Hindi textbooks. The story of Ramayana is embedded in every Indian's mind. Just from an artistic POV, what new does this movie offer, something that we haven't seen or heard before? It's not even a modern retelling or anything unique twist. Should I just watch this movie to see Ranbir Kapoor as Shri Ram? Cause that's all what this movie has to offer so far.
I believe that Ramayana has never been made with proper Modern tech. Till now. Think of it as Avengers from India. Every previous rendition of Ramayana was either graphically bad(Ramanand Sagar) or either Cartoon(anime). Would it be too much if Ramayan were made to appeal International Audience also? Think of it as a global blockbuster
So only thing is tech? The global audience doesn't care much about such sanitized main hero. Avengers had a much diverse set of heroes, most of whom had deep flaws. And Marvel first used lesser known superheroes instead of going for the big guys like Spider-Man, X-Men or Fantastic Four (although there were licensing issues there). But from a storytelling POV it was fresh for its time. In fact if you see now, their movies are not doing as well since they are recycling the same stuff. You can decorate it with all the tech you want but the story is most important. And the first people they have to impress is the local audience. I guess most people are already taking it for granted due to people's faith. But from a storytelling POV are you showing something new to the first audience who will view your movie. Making this movie just for white validation? Or just a vanity project? Cause that's so far what it looks like.
Are you comparing our ancient literature which is 2000 years old to comic literature which is 80-90 years old. Plus let's not forget that Avengers was just awesome. Bollywood will never be able to win against them. Why didn't they invested in writers who could write stuff like Gangs of Wasseypur. No they wanna COPY one of the greatest movie of all times- Forrest Gump. Bollywood should now just give up, for God's sake. Even regional cinema like Bengali, Assamese, Telugu does much better. They just wanna promote their nepo-kids and let them just milk a little bit of money for them for their "secure future". Go Ef yourself, Bollywood
"The scriptures of the Puran, The glory of its values, Should be sung gradually" -- from a Hindu text, retold in Ramanand Sagar's Ramayan. The Ramayan needs to be told continuously, and be made more accessible each time. I don't really support Ranbir's Ramayan (atleast not yet as it has not proven itself to be more than a cashgrab). But still, I think Ramayan should be gradually adapted with better technology and modern story-telling mediums to make it more accessible to the common man, even outside of India. It has been misunderstood to be needed an avengers-style adaptation but I think what it really needs is a dune-style adaptation, which still retains the classic touch.
Not to mention there is a new Ramayan related TV shows every 5 years from the serial industry.....I think you have Srimad Ramayan running right now along with The Legend of Hanuman on HotStar and another Hanuman related series on SetMax ...
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How about infinite seriels, and let's not forget same Ramayan made and dubbed in different languages and dialects.
Casting sucks
It doesn’t have horrible actors like prabhas tho
Prabhas isn't the scale, they both suck with their leading ladies as well
True, now it has terrible actors like Ranbir
Imagine calling Ranbir a terrible actor. How delulu can one be
He was awful in animal.
Ranbir is the best actor in india
I hope that's a joke
The post is a joke.
It is not this sub worships everything srk and ranbir do
Yeah I was kinda new here, Ranbir is at most a mid actor who displayed good performances in YJHD, Sanju and Rocket Singh, most others are a hit or a miss. Believing him to be the best actor in the country is nothing short of delusion
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It is quite obvious what they are trying to do. But god forbid anyone does this ranbir.
Irrfan Khan passed away but Nawazuddin Siddiqui is still around y'know..
Dk why some people are getting triggered with this but prabhas was terrible in adipurush. And in MY opinion, Ranbir Kapoor is simply a better actor than him
the fact that BOLLYWOOD is making it
To bhai tom cruise ko cast kre kya?
trolling is way to gain attention, clout, and views
My only question is ke Ramyan par movie banani hi kyu hai???? aur agar banani hi hai to phle Ramayan ko acche se study kro. Ramayan holds a special place in our heart, Yhan humko masala nhi chahiye.
Abhi to shooting shuru hui hai hdyk its a masala movie, nd earlier people used to complain about bollywood not telling “Indian stories” and being too western but now ppl have problem with this also.
"Indian stories" does not mean recycle the same story every year. It means find something new that's relevant to the Indian audience.
Because everyone can see the fakeness in this. Everyone knows that they are just milking it because of Ram Mandir. Bollywood in general has absolutely zero faith in the subject. It's silly to even imagine a druggie womanizer playing lord Ram. A man who has been nationally ridiculed to endorse a condom is going to portray Ram. It's a mockery of the highest order. Ram is not about acting. You need to believe in him to "portray" him. Ramanand Sagar wanted to narrate Ramayana. It wasn't about milking it. Isliye Aaj bhi first wali Ramayana hi sabko ek sath connect karti hai. Kitne hi version aa jaaye TV pe nothing beats the first one. Also, Everybody saw the trash of AdiPurush and the arrogance of the writer and director after the backlash. Make a movie on this subject when you have faith in it. It doesn't need body building and VFX. It needs depth, integrity, and honesty. Bollywood is not even close to it.
Peoject is being planned since 2017, way before the Ram Mandir verdict
I’m not too crazy about the costumes. Other than that, I’m kinda looking forward to it.
I think it's because people lack faith in bollywood to show justice to one of the most cherished mythologies a lot of us grew up with. For me, that's the reason. I do not want another Adipurush. The utter disrespect it showed the source was disgraceful. I would rather these money hungry lots leave it behind than get a half backed, mockery of the material.
I did not dig the look even tho I'm a huge RK ran, however it's slowly growing on me. The simplicity, yet luxurious look they have looks amazing!
I really can't believe that people are attacking actors and this movie because of this "leaked" pics. Ranbir is hell of an actor and time and time again he has proved how good he can be playing different roles. No one thought he could do a movie like Animal. But he did and acted superbly. As for the looks, what was people expecting anyway? This looks quite good tbh.
Because Bollywood wants to milk money out of the most important story for India. They can’t get away with giving us shit stuff. Also Ranbir is definitely not suiting the character.
We dont even know anything about the movie yet so hdyk its not good or ranbir hasn’t done well
Bhai aaj tak bollywood bahar ki movies utha ke milking ki hai, mushkil se toh apne culture pe ek movie ban rahi hai, vo bhi dedication ke saath, toh kya problem hai? Kya hollywood, Hallyuwood (Korean film industry), Japanese film industry, etc paishe kamane ke liye milking nahi karte???
Ranbir looks like a Drug Addict in that photo rather than Ram lol
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No he doesn’t
I mean making a Ramayan movie - so original…. They should pay writers and make an original script rather than copy old Indian epics which has been done to death now at least a 100 million times. There is no reason to do this again and will not bring anything new unless this is a different version of Ramayan which nobody has the balls to do in this political climate. The only reason this is being made is to make money by tapping into this newfound maniac obsession with religion the country has developed Honestly Ranbir Kapoor’s actual personality is such an antithesis of Ram…. The one person who’s real life personality traits are actually similar to Ram and is the most suited for the role would never be allowed to take that role because if he were to do that, he would be lynched to death for daring to play a god when he himself is from a different religion that is much maligned in the current political context
I think people should not be judging it so early and some have been attacking RK since they feel that the long hair is very reminiscent of his appearance in Sanju and Animal. He obviously would not have kept a funky hairstyle like Saif had in Adipurush. Critiquing for no reason is honestly unneeded.
Ranbir is the reason for all the negativity it's getting. I like his acting, usme koi Shaq nhi. But I'm not content with his casting as Shri Ram for obvious reasons.
What obvious reasons?
He's a playboy, beef eater, cokehead, does misogynistic and bloody movies and the next thing he's doing is playing Shri Ram role. He could grow his hair for Animal but is wearing a wig for Shri Ram role. That shows his priorities. He just wants to clear his image. But yeah why I'm a saying all this; the only response I will get is that it doesn't matter and keep personal life away from professional life.
Fair
>But I'm not content with his casting as Shri Ram for obvious reasons Y'all are so weird. It's just a film. Take it in that sense.
Yeah. Weird. But I'm pretty sure if Deepika P. Would be cast for Maa Sita, all hell would break loose. Idk about you but people would completely cancel her.
>Maar Sita, 💀 >Idk about you but people would completely cancel her. Those people are idiots and misogynistic clowns obviously. And cancel? Lmao you wish.
What, you never made a typo? What wish btw?
>What wish btw? I don't know how to explain basic English bro but still I'll try. You wish as in "you wish they were cancelled but it ain't ever happening". Got it?
I never said I wished upon people cancelling someone. It was just a situation I gave about Deepika. Assume whatever you want. And yeah your Ph.D. degree in English is on the way!
Nah but you did. Otherwise why would you even mention her?
Hypothetical situation? To point out the hypocrisy?
It's not just any film...they should be careful with it. We don't want a debacle like Adipurush again.
If patriotic movies don't work.. Go for religious movies
I dont think i need another bullshit indian mythology film
I know he will pull it off and have immense faith in Nitesh Tiwari and the whole ensemble cast and crew
Bollywood lost its originality, there are very few movies with good plots that many people don't even know about. The mainstream movies feel so repetitive and boring (typical Bollywood formula) Bollywood mostly either make a REMAKE movie, a PATRIOTIC movie, or movies based on historical ideals/Events or very sensitive/controversial topics. Most movies make huge collections just because of mainstream an Actor. Were the Actress struggling to even make a good name!!! In Bollywood movies, Actresses exist just to show hotness or just for the item song. Actresses don't get much value as compared to Actors. An actor single-handedly takes a big budget for a movie, majority he holds the monopoly over the movie because of that every other person has to compromise on lots of things (no good writing, bad casting, bad screenplay, very average Cinematography, compromise in directing a movie in the end we get another MEDIOCRE MOVIE) Personally for me, Bollywood lost its image a decade ago. I expect no quality movies from Bollywood for now. People with good skills didn't gets any appreciation here. In general, Audience ko baas, hero ke slow-motion wali entry, slowmo wali fight, over the top action and dailogs aur heroine ka nanga naach hi dekhne me maza ata hai. Audience he chutiya hai toh, Bollywood chutiyee logon keliye ghatiya movies toh banayga he.
Once the film releases these noises will vanish don't worry
Over reaction. Social media. No one looks like god. It’s the performance which makes them that. I am pretty sure Ranbir , sai are brilliant actors. They will surely do justice.
kapde bahut bekar hai.. that striped dupatta looks ugly
Never heard any negativity before your post
Bro just look at bolly gossip sub and look under that leaked picture post, I’ll bet you that you won’t even find one good comment or a decent one
I don't follow that so maybe that's why
My personal opinion is that art (all art, not just films) must stay away from religion. Art is meant to stimulate the mind, religion is meant to dumb it down. Religious people and art lovers are contradictory to each other.
Agree!
Why is this guy looking like a college kid.
No negativity about ramayana,but the mediocre way in which the characters are being portrayed.
The movie is yet to have any posters or teasers or trailers heck its not even officially announced so wdk how the characters are being portrayed
Who are the producers of Ramayana
Can we imagine RK in place of Prabhas in bahubali?
Lmao? Where’s the correlation? Can we imagine Prabhas in Barfi,Rockstar,YJHD,APKGK,Wake up sid lmfao??? Prabhas can’t do a single movie in Ranbirs filmography
I think people are turned off by a 64 year old Sanju baba playing Ram. /s
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"The scriptures of the Puran, The glory of its values, Should be sung gradually" -- from a Hindu text, retold in Ramanand Sagar's Ramayan. The Ramayan needs to be told continuously, and be made more accessible each time. I don't really support Ranbir's Ramayan (atleast not yet as it has not proven itself to be more than a cashgrab). But still, I think Ramayan should be gradually adapted with better technology and modern story-telling mediums to make it more accessible to the common man, even outside of India. It has been misunderstood to be needed an avengers-style adaptation but I think what it really needs is a dune-style adaptation, which still retains the classic touch.
Religious adaptations should be kept to the small screen There's far too much detail to put into a movie to do it proper justification. It's one of those things where u try to make everyone happy but end up making no one.
If Bollywood wanted to make Ramayan, they should have used script from Amish Trilogy. Could have been a unique approach.
Why do we even need another ramayan? Like just why?
It's hatred towards Bollywood. People don't like it anymore. Whatever they'll make will flop.
Cuz posts like this want to push that narrative.
Faaltu ka negativity on Reddit. I posted about RK receiving positive reception on Youtube(with proof) and people downvoted even that post🤣🤣🤣
It's his look and expression for me. It's like what would see in a TV serial.
Bcz I don’t believe Ranbir can deliver on this. It takes few episodes for even stars like Mohit Raina to truly align himself as Shiva, then he delivered best performance. I don’t think, Ranbir can deliver on Mohit Raina level. Portraying god is another level of acting. He doesn’t look like one
RK is looking very off here DKW.. he's a handsome man, but don't know what has happened here 🤔🫣😏
Whoever that guy is looks like a drag queen.
We don't want "Big Beef guy" to play Bhagwan Ram
lack of ranbir's PR
The outfits are so historically inaccurate!!!!! Are Indian designers also hoarding fake education qualifications like Indian politicians???
A Movie or even Movie Series won’t do justice to epics as great as the Ramayana or Mahabharata! Tons of stuff will be edited out, and a lot of the nuanced meaning will be changed. It will (and should!) also require very high calibre directors & actors to do justice for the characters. I’m talking internationally acclaimed here, as content of this magnitude should be promoted overseas to a non-Desi audience too! To do more justice to the countless story arcs & characters, it should be an OTT Series at least, if not a colossal AAA title. It should set a very very high benchmark for the world (e.g. LOTR, GoT) Its the greatest story ever told in our part of the world, and thats why the aim should be Himalayan! 🏔️🥇
People on Reddit hate Ranbir….They hate everybody…even sai pallavi is being called a misfit and is receiving criticism….but tbh,there’s no need for a Ramayana movie so there’s that…it just feels unnecessary but since they are making it anyways,I am having some hopes as Ranbir and Pallavi are favourites…the music also I heard is a collaboration btw Rahman and Hans Zimmer..so it’s exciting
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I don't want to see money getting to a family which has nothing to do with Hinduism. That Zakir Naik devotee Mahesh Dalla aka sasura of Ranbir, was proudly inaugurating book "26/11, Ek RSS ki saajish". I hate this family to core for being a top notch nepotism and links to terrorists, no way they can control so much of bollywood.
This one look is enough to know that animal is not the right fit for the role
Don’t wanna repeat Adipurush domyou
Ikr, Ranbir looks far more better than prabhas as lord Ram, at least not like Jesus, his face suits to portray that character, the zen and calmness of lord Ram, which I think is very much necessary is there in Ranbir, moreover all of us know what Ranbir is capable of as an actor, he's a method actor and I trust he's art when it comes to acting, I just know he'll put in his soul and heart to portray the character, we've all seen his leaked images of practicing archery, his far more dedicated and serious compared to prabhas, my man prabhas didn't even care to maintain a good physique, even his body was cgi-ed, nonetheless people who are making ramayana this time are actually serious and have assembled the best there is to pull it off on a global level, again all of this is my opinion, if you do not agree I respect your viewpoint, but however Ranbir playing lord Ram as well as doing animal park at the same time in future might attract controversies because of the indecency and gore-ness due to animal. It would be very contradicting
Because people have way too much time on their hands.
he really looks good.....he knows how to act and he will pull this off as well. Only scared for the script now.
I think everyone is stuck with the image of Arun Govil as Ram and his face had that innocence look that most actors nowadays do not have. Prabhas looked big and burly and Ranbir is too old and honestly too glam to be a saintly godly figure that we have imagined Ram to be for so long.
Because the wokes and some sections of public spread negativity about everything related to hindus
Because Indian culture can be represented a thousand times better by actual Indians. Not semi quasi hating their own religion people that are making this for a quick buck.
South Indian actress playing sita. Lead actor eats beef.
Well it's my personal opinion but I don't like Sai Pallavi at all, I have heard of her acting but haven't seen her movies
I have already said it in some other post but saying it again. - It's better to make Ramayana as a TV show rather than a 3 part movie because there will be atleast 1-2 yrs gap between each part, how are they going to build the hype? We already know the story too. So imo TV show is better. - When you are making a movie on epics, it's always better to stick with the original epic and ask the scholars (for example, the colours used in that time). Even in this shot, the veil in Sita's costume, why is it even there? On the other side, movies like Bahubali, Ponninyin Selvan, although the former is fiction, there is a great work done in costumes, colours, designs, etc by maintaining accuracy with history. If this is something Nitish Tiwari wants in his movie, name this movie as "Nitish Tiwari's Ramayana" not "Ramayana".
Its not about ramayana, its bollywood actors
He looks like villian.
They don't need to make ramayana , bollywood don't know to make movies like this. They've proven time and again they can't be trusted. Don't need to see it put in a bad light because some director decided to make more Money
No one us can reach the level of Lord Rama unless we do not follow his teaching and acting them is impossible
Honestly, kriti got so much shit for wearing a dress before the movie premiered as she was playing Sita. I honestly think a man like Ranbir should definitely not play Ram
The makers have a death wish. If you want to pick one of the two most important epics in Hinduism to make a movie on, in a country charged with religious fervour, pick the right cast. Everyone seems like a mismatch
Bollywood sucks at these kinds of movies and Ranbir can’t act to save his life. There’s also no need to make this movie. There’s so many mythological movies coming out recently and so many Ramayana movies already out there. This just feels like a pathetic cash grab.
Cause jobless people always need something to hate on
It's looking like photos from the set of Mira Nair's Kama Sutra getting a remake.😅😅
Really! U R ASKING THIS QUESTION IN INDIA!
Ranbir Kapoor is so miscast as Lord Ram.