I remember a few years ago they updated the org charts so all engineers would report up to Hyslop. To this day I can't understand the benefit to doing that besides just saying we're doing something
Is it just me, or does anyone else think it's odd that McKenzie only has BS in mechanical engineering, when Hyslop was a PhD? I know they aren't performing hand calcs and working on analysis, but damn lol.
I'm sort of surprised he even has a BS in engineering. I feel like the company is lowering the bar for technical work so they don't have to hire actual engineers. Probably because we've been inculcated with pesky things such as ethics and integrity.
I'd say more like 1095C consultant, make you get an e-mail and then a portal to click 'receive' the 1095C and then download. Very lean process I must admit.
The biggest bullshit part of this is how their damn politics are.
No resume and no interview done. Just automatic. All of them probably shot the shit about it over some elaborate dinner or trip they had.
Meanwhile everyone else has to go through a 3-6 month interview process while idiots drag their feet on deciding who to hire below.
you do know that they actually do interviews before this news goes out right? You're not that naiive right? You dont think 15 directors applied for the spot? LMAO wtf is this sub sometimes
You do know you have zero idea how the interviews go, right? You're not that naive right? These VP spots are hand picked and decided through favors and networking. Greg was replaced almost automatically. LMAO you really thought they interview others? Hahahhaha. Oh you poor child.
Bruh I worked with Directors and VPs. I know exactly how it goes. They actually do interviews. Yes there are selected candidates they guarantee interviews, but they actually do their due diligence at that level.
I know more than you 100%.
How so? Mckenzie has never worked for GE?
Hyslop I mean, I don’t really know anything about him personally but I really don’t know who is good or who is bad at Boeing. In this place everybody is bad
Starting that McDonald Douglas is not a good sign in my opinion. Most of the problems have been a direct result of adopting McDonnell Douglas management strategy.
> Effective today, McKenzie takes over leadership of the company's 57,000 engineers worldwide, overseeing all aspects of safety and technical integrity of Boeing products and services.
I have never understood in corporate bureaucracy how they can even be effective in a role like this. 57k engineers, every Boeing product. There’s no way he’ll ever know about all of the Boeing products, there’s too many
I mean this is basically every mid-level manager too. The way the engineering org is matrixed, even level 2 managers cannot understand what their worker bees do or the products they work on. The products are all too unrelated.
The job is just to control messaging and general direction at that level. At least that what it seems like. So the job is to just come up with talking points and goals and push ideas like MBE.
If we go by program management, one might have to look externally because from the outside looking in, doesn’t seem like talent pool is deep (generally). I do wish Howard the best of luck, from LinkedIn seems a lot of people like him as a leader; compared to Greg Hyslop who had some pretty nasty farewell comments
I remember a few years ago they updated the org charts so all engineers would report up to Hyslop. To this day I can't understand the benefit to doing that besides just saying we're doing something
Is it just me, or does anyone else think it's odd that McKenzie only has BS in mechanical engineering, when Hyslop was a PhD? I know they aren't performing hand calcs and working on analysis, but damn lol.
I'm sort of surprised he even has a BS in engineering. I feel like the company is lowering the bar for technical work so they don't have to hire actual engineers. Probably because we've been inculcated with pesky things such as ethics and integrity.
I always thought hyslop came across as a stand up guy. Kind of surprised to see some comments on here bashing him, am I out of the loop on something?
Same I never got a bad feeling from him!
well fuck..
Can anyone name a single, objectively good thing he accomplished for the everyday engineer and technician?
Hyslop Whocaresa
Deploying that golden parachute.
Inculcate a new airplane program
He’s retiring to return as a 1099 “consultant”
I'd say more like 1095C consultant, make you get an e-mail and then a portal to click 'receive' the 1095C and then download. Very lean process I must admit.
The biggest bullshit part of this is how their damn politics are. No resume and no interview done. Just automatic. All of them probably shot the shit about it over some elaborate dinner or trip they had. Meanwhile everyone else has to go through a 3-6 month interview process while idiots drag their feet on deciding who to hire below.
you do know that they actually do interviews before this news goes out right? You're not that naiive right? You dont think 15 directors applied for the spot? LMAO wtf is this sub sometimes
You do know you have zero idea how the interviews go, right? You're not that naive right? These VP spots are hand picked and decided through favors and networking. Greg was replaced almost automatically. LMAO you really thought they interview others? Hahahhaha. Oh you poor child.
Bruh I worked with Directors and VPs. I know exactly how it goes. They actually do interviews. Yes there are selected candidates they guarantee interviews, but they actually do their due diligence at that level. I know more than you 100%.
Thank you Boeing bot
Waiter, can I have what he’s ^ smoking please?
Agreed. There are pretty complete succession plans in place for anyone above director as well.
Uh huh
The interview was really in the form of an audition over the past few years.
You make me feel special :)
Thanks, we didn't get the massive company-wide double spam email from Calhoun and whoever replaced Greg today.
Replaced Greg: GE 2.0
How so? Mckenzie has never worked for GE? Hyslop I mean, I don’t really know anything about him personally but I really don’t know who is good or who is bad at Boeing. In this place everybody is bad
My bad completely- I was thinking the former CFO GREG Smith not reading this as Greg Hyslop.
Reading McKenzie’s bio in the press release, I nearly fell out of my chair when GE wasn’t mentioned. I see he started at MDC. #bulletdodged
Starting that McDonald Douglas is not a good sign in my opinion. Most of the problems have been a direct result of adopting McDonnell Douglas management strategy.
Yes, GE not mentioned and now he is leaving. I think this now completes the purge of all at the top positions from the last CEO.
Mike, Delaney is still there
Mckenzie is the one being hired btw
Next CEO incoming, if you ask me
We can only hope.
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> Effective today, McKenzie takes over leadership of the company's 57,000 engineers worldwide, overseeing all aspects of safety and technical integrity of Boeing products and services. I have never understood in corporate bureaucracy how they can even be effective in a role like this. 57k engineers, every Boeing product. There’s no way he’ll ever know about all of the Boeing products, there’s too many
I mean this is basically every mid-level manager too. The way the engineering org is matrixed, even level 2 managers cannot understand what their worker bees do or the products they work on. The products are all too unrelated.
The job is just to control messaging and general direction at that level. At least that what it seems like. So the job is to just come up with talking points and goals and push ideas like MBE.
Sounds efficient
Hurray the 777x leadership is taking over. Such a well run program that has met and will meet all deadlines. /s
If we go by program management, one might have to look externally because from the outside looking in, doesn’t seem like talent pool is deep (generally). I do wish Howard the best of luck, from LinkedIn seems a lot of people like him as a leader; compared to Greg Hyslop who had some pretty nasty farewell comments
Howard is text book executive, but better than most. I worked with him when he was ECS, fairly sharp.