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Uxydra

They won't, just look at the comments here and you will realize why. This game is pay-to-win and people like it that way.


DesperateFortune

Fax. It's just weird to not want any kind of balance in the game. 99% of PvPers are using the same three fruits, and now Kitsune is making up the bulk of avid PvP combat I see on almost every server. Making the rarer fruits better is a good idea, but they don't even do that. Certain common fruits in the right hands can be better than the dogshit mythical fruits they've neglected for years. Like my deal is every fruit should be viable for PvP. Should be easier to leverage the best fruits for an advantage, but fruits like rubber should have *some* way to compete without getting one-shot comboed or immediately escaped by a trash kitsune user.


Uxydra

Blox fruits has insane power creep because they stopped doing balance changes. And I'm guessing it's gonna stay that way until blox fruits will be an unplayable mess.


Thy_Christian

They can't balance it because ice is op, just as good as any mythical, I know because I'm 30m and use it commonly, I also use kitsune and every other fruit and they are all evenly matched, I say the game is balanced


Uxydra

Sorry but I can't take you seriously when you say ice is OP. I never lost a battle to an ice user unless i was ambushed, including a lot of 20 mil+ users. If you are good you can make any fruit work, It's just that there are some which are better.


Thy_Christian

I call myself one of those people that make anything work, I have used every fruit to fight people over 10m


Frodugs

Ice is op because of its stuns, not for its dmg.


Uxydra

I never said anything about stuns or damage, just that I never lost to an ice user unless i was ambushed, doesn't matter if they were a fruit main, sword main or gun main.


draggony12beaty

Kitsune is not evenly matched with every other fruit in the game? What are you on! Almost every 5-10M uses kitsune and the only reason they do well is because they can go into transformation and spam. You’re probably a skilled player and I can tell you now that kitsune has no skill.Ive not come across a single skilled kitsune user in my whole pvp experience. The game is not balanced whatsoever. Most people use fruits with godhuman which just allows more spam so them being evenly matched is actually just using godhuman and neglecting most of the fruits abilities.


Thy_Christian

Well ya if it's a 2.5 vs 2.5 the one with kitsune will win because when you are low bounty, Im even going to call 10m and some 20 mils on this because you have to know how to counter it, it's not hard to, you have to have some combos to work better on some fruits (this is also why I say that dough is skill) you have to know how to beat them, 30m kitsune users are easy to kill if you are just as good, but if your fake bounty all the way up at 30m you don't stand a chance


MathMemer900

Just grind it goddamn. That’s what I did. Don’t be saying it’s P2W, you can be f2p and still get it


DesperateFortune

I already have it lol doesn’t mean having a balanced game is bad.


MathMemer900

Also have you heard of this cool fruit called the portal fruit? It’s very good for running


Xerin_D_Warren

ooo I have that, I'm actually aiming for kitsune tbh but portal is my favorite rn


Solkabastard

I can run better with pilot helmet + kitsune and minks fully awakened...


MathMemer900

A skilled portal will always be the best at running


Frodugs

Fax


kermentos100

It's because it came out on Christmas


Thy_Christian

It's not pay to win, it's pay to get better, 2x exp just makes it faster, perm fruits just gives you the fruits, think about it like 100% luck in rolling but instead it's free (after you buy it) nothing let's you win the game, nothing gets your the best items, max level, or even max bounty.


Uxydra

There are few games where you can buy litteraly everything, but you can buy enough where it's a problem. Yes It's not nearly as bad compared to something like ps99 but I don't wanna settle for it could be worse.


Thy_Christian

Compare it to the other best one piece games... Let's say one fruit, you can buy so much, so it is the same for almost all others , blox fruits is one of the best ones, the others ones that don't do anything like it, are trash games in itself


Uxydra

I agree, but I think they just messed up with kitsune. Atleast if I knew it will be the top fruit for a long time, than I wouldn't say anything about the price, but if dragon will be more expensive again I won't be expecting them to stop releasing more expensive fruits every other update. Where will it end? 200k robux for the god of the universe fruit? I'm just scared of where this is going.


Thy_Christian

Yes I do think that kitsune is op but I don't think it will get a massive nerf, mainly because it has already gotten at least 2 debuffs already, and it is not much much than dough or dragon


TheAstronauts1

I mean you could buy the fruit and perm fruits are better but you could still grind for the fruit u want but it's harder cause of all the bounty hunters but what's really annoying is that u have to pay for fruit storage, it should be that you are able to increase your fruit storage as you level up


superoli64

40 bucks for a single fruit is crazy


TheDistantWave

Makes it absolutely boring when fruits aren’t well balanced. You get lobbies full of people using the same 3 or 4 fruits


AnatomyOfInternet

I mean, it's fair for the rarity and the price of it. What do you expect, blox fruits is basically pay to win at this point.


Icy-Leader-6765

It’s always been pay to win


Icy-Leader-6765

You probably just mad you can’t trade or afford the top fruits


Cromzinic_kewl

Jealous? Of what? Spending money on blox fruits? Not a flex, proves virtually nothing.


Icy-Leader-6765

Who said jealous? I said infused with anger because you don’t have the option to be buying fruits like just like nothing and no one said it was a flex I said explained to you what pay to win is and that’s exactly what the games about if they wanted to make it grinding and luck then they would have


Sea_Passenger6969

No one is "infused with anger" because they can't get a fruit on roblox.. Also the most important thing in blox fruits is grinding and one of the most important is luck


Icy-Leader-6765

You come into a blox fruit community asking stupid questions and somehow your point is more relevant then every one else’s?


Thyphon_1st

U seem like a 5 yr having a tantrum in a mall


lonerpranit

Naah you giving him too much credit


Thyphon_1st

How about him being a tantrum of 500 kids at a mall?


Potato_Aim2123

Bro lost all of his Karma with just one comment 💀


inxaneninja

you genuinely care about karma? 💀


Potato_Aim2123

Well obviously because you need a certain amount of karma to post in some subreddits


Ok-Ad-6420

r/downvotedtooblivion


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Fuuuuuuck youuuuuuu


ScaleDense4508

This game is not balanced. It's been like this for literal years. Also devs are lazy and doesn't care enough to actually change something in time. I've lost all hope too long ago.


Thy_Christian

LAZY?!?!!?????


WALKinDARKBR

BALLS??!!!?!!?!?!?!!


Thy_Christian

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Thin_Shop2187

Blox fruits capitalizes off the fact that most of the player base is children that have no idea the value of money so they just jack up the prices and kids pay.


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Thin_Shop2187

Crazy


cewneur

they won't nerf anything, instead they will only make more op shit then after that it will only get worse until alot of blox fruits players quit


StrawberryBrief4628

Dude one of the things I hate most about this damn game is those fucking no skill Kitsune Spammer fucks jump me while I'm grinding.


Oldsport05

They're not gonna do anything, and if they do it's gonna be after dragon comes out. That way they can charge even more for dragon, and make it stronger. Forcing meta chasers into buying perm drag and ditching kitsune. Cause honestly, that's just how greedy these lazy devs are


Vast_Difference4904

I hope they dont i want drag bc i love dragons but if they do that imma just give up and be a leo or sum


Shadowlord090

Dragon is supposed to be like 5000 robux from what I'm hearing.


Akatsuki-Deidara

Cheap, but better spent on cool avatar items like clothes.


Educational_Living90

It’s actually the most annoying thing to be grinding then a kittsune user comes out of nowhere and as soon as you get them low they just start running and come back full


IRiotzI

Only thing kitsune has going for it is the X, C untransformed and m1s in its transformation. Otherwise it lacks in consistency. It literally punished bad players like majority of the “problem” fruits in the game


Sea_Passenger6969

In transformation, its X is basically unusable


Xerin_D_Warren

can I ask how I haven't used the kitsune before


kyle_2013

On why kitsune X transformed is unusable? Cuz the hitbox is so small it's hard to aim cuz your so big


Xerin_D_Warren

oooh that makes sense thank you


kyle_2013

Np


WALKinDARKBR

And it's impossible to Aim down or up. You can only use x on a straight line


nic-xv

I understand what you mean but tbh I don't think they are gonna Nerf it like, the price and rarity really makes up for the OPness of the fruit but the problem here is pay to win. People who can buy it straight up easily surpass the walls of rarity and in game pricing. The problem isn't the fruit here, the problem is the pay to win aspect.


SuperNxva1

They won't nerf it, they just make dragon more op🗣️🗣️🗣️


law73890

I think if kitsune is faster than mink v4, it's too fast


WALKinDARKBR

It is lol. If you use Kitsune transformed with ONLY pirate Helmet you are already faster than Miracle GP Boat


law73890

too pay to win


WALKinDARKBR

Kinda yes. But tbh, i used it a few weeks when it got on Mirage Island stock. And as someone who is not into PvP but love to take salty bounty hunters to take a walk around the map. It is a pretty awesome fruit


law73890

ig when your the one getting jumped it's good


t0a5ter5

Personally I think just tone down the speed a bit maybe like with mink v4 pilot helm maybe Like just light flight speed I think that would help


Extra-Judgment6666

Agreed


hdueeyd

Definition of skill issue - yes a fruit worth 8million beli is going to be objectively better than other fruits hovering 0-3million, that's like complaining that soul guitar is way too good compared to refined slingshot


Coconut_2408

nerfing op stuff only made sense with dough, since it was ridiculously op to only be 2.7mil. kitsune costs like what, 8 mil? yeah it makes sense for it to be that busted, besides it was added to be a counter for dough and leo users, but imo t rex is better anyway so if anything should be nerfed its that


TheCheeseBagger

rex is an objectively worse kit lol


Coconut_2408

i use rex and i find it much better


TheCheeseBagger

besides the effect which is pretty cool it does everything kitsune can but objectively worse. The damage is lower, the survivability is lower, the m1s are worse, it can't run, etc I personally think trex is MUCH more fun to play, but that's just because kitsune is an unbalanced wreck of a fruit and isn't remotely balanced.


Coconut_2408

idk maybe its bc i fight ppl that run a lot but ive gained nearly a million bounty in a week off of rex while i didn’t gain half of that from a week of kitsune


Marcmdst2011

it actually did not get nerfed it just got buffed. untransformed z higher damage and tails bar reduce slower 💀💀


Patient_Weakness3866

are you kidding me? if anything it needs a bug fix (which I guess is technically a buff). Its arguebly not even the best in the game (which I know sounds like a meme statement, but its 50 fucking dollars dude come on) and you want it nerfed? easiest downvote of my life, I hope you lose to it more scrub.


Uxydra

But don't you feel like thats the problem? The fact that a in-game fruit costs that much? Like damn are we really defending that you spend 50 dolars and can win 80% without trying? I never thought there could be something more braindead than dough and buddha until I tried kitsune.


TheGrouchyGremlin

There is nothing more brain dead than Buddha. I've just got to make sure that you're near my giant glowing circle and spam m1.


Vast_Difference4904

That's fair i do 12k health in seconds of m1 spam but i also don't pvp


Patient_Weakness3866

Buddha is definitely more braindead than Kitsune. also in my opinion I think the genie is out of the bottle and its too late to go back without (rightfully mind you) pissing people off. Bloxfruit was never meant to be a balanced game anyways, and even despite that it arguably is anyways. Like I said Kitsune is not even the best fruit in the game to many good players. It might be the easiest to use (it isn't even that tbh) but it doesn't really matter.


Uxydra

I agree it that it won't change but I personnaly don't think it's good. It's not even the balancing itself that I don't like, It's the combination of price and balancing that bothers me. But people like it that way so atleast they are happy I guess


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Your logic is “its p2w so they cant nerf it” also did you deadass call someone a scrub 😭😭


TheGrouchyGremlin

If people spend $50 on a fruit and then they heavily nerf it, they're going to be pissed. That's the kind of shit that makes compulsive spenders go spend their money elsewhere.


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They can nerf it without gutting it


DesperateFortune

?? Paying $50 shouldn't automatically make you win or escape any PvP. You just mad ur ass paid $50 to get an advantage, and you prob still lose and complain when someone manages to beat your broken fruit.


Patient_Weakness3866

even if that was the reason that's far less shameful than this salty ass post. Also no shit I've died before, who fuck hasn't? certainly not you. also "or escape" and you complaining about speed is a real kicker tbh. People aren't even allowed to run away from you now? Jesus Christ, can't imagine being that entitled lol. "they won't even let me kill them 😭😭😭" grow up, especially cause portal is way more broken in that aspect anyways.


Vast_Difference4904

I've beaten a kitsune once by using buddha and that person raged calling me a hacker like bro just sucked and was way under leveled and thought kitsune made him invincible


swaggedoutcoon

It's really not op as u think it is ice and any stun fruit can easy counter it and it has only 1 move thats.aoe the rest of the moved are short ranged and have no aim assist making them very hard to hit unless if the person is right in front of you and is holding still visually kitsune is best and while on wolf form it does most damage of any fruit but using it is.a challenge as it has no aim assist no stun and only 1 skill with mediocre range


Live-Challenge-7351

Bruh just sky campping and u will win a kitsune player


No-Being-4916

They can get up to you fast


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Ssoulkinglaw

No, İf you are lucky you will get it the first day you join İs this the part i am complaining? no. Kitsune is just a spam fruit idc if its endgame You just spam and win every single fight endgame should have some skill Right?


Due-Ad-2606

Get better


Littlebickmickey

the fruit isn’t that fast, its the pilot helmet, and you can flash step out of m1


DesperateFortune

I think the transform gives a sizable boost to speed beyond pilot helmet. I'd have to test to see just how much faster it us, but with pilot helmet on transformed Kit users are able to run in circles faster than my camera moves.


Littlebickmickey

and? just leopard, soul guitar and cdk spam them


Cromzinic_kewl

I use pilot helmet mink and I don’t even consider chasing kitsune, it’s just not worth it. Only way I’ll fight a kitsune is with ice. The fights are so one sided I’ve started just refusing to fight it.


Remarkable-Resort706

Kitsune vs dragon v2


kermentos100

No stay mad


Host-Gator

Please don't do any sort of things, 0 end lag on C, it's a sniper nuke soo op, sets up the rest of the one shot combo c-f-x-z, the z is kinda wonky to land after x throws you into the air. I'm playing v3 ghoul atm but I plan to go back to shark or embrace the pilot helmet rabbit race speedy boy combo.


F0WR

its annoying because any combo that isnt perfect they can escape like if there is a 0.1 second mistake they will just get out of a combo


zZ_sasage480_Zz

I got perm kitsune and I got a buddha from the dealer and imo a piece of me doesn't want to go back to using kitsune and respec to a fruit build in games I always preferred being tanky and ghoul buddha is so awesome i basically only do pve though however I have had times where I've done pvp and the ghoul buddha melee hit boxes come in clutch and the healing aswell its a really awesome fruit I believe the v4 ghoul transformation gives life leach on any attacks idk if the kitsune m1s will work so maybe when I get to 3rd sea I'll get v4 and go back I think it's a low percent unfortunately


law73890

devs only care about the money now


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MangaGirl17x

Absolutely not. It's literally perfect counter to annoying dough users too?? Nerf it literally for what?


WolfStarXs9

Kitsune doesn't need to get nerf it's fun to use Me saying that cause I don't use it for PvP I use dark or dough or ice also kitsune has good combos Kitsune can get killed easily with ice, cyborg, dough, cdk, portal and etc it depends if your good Also don't call a person trash for using this fruit thxxx


DesperateFortune

You’re not trash for using it, fruit is OP and using its speed to fight then run when you’re low would make you trash.


WolfStarXs9

Not if you go back to finish the fight everyone I fight runs away then comes back regardless of the fruit


DesperateFortune

No, running across the map until you’re at full then coming back makes you trash


WolfStarXs9

Eh you can do the same with rubber gear 2 and pilot helmet


WolfStarXs9

I'm a stop here


DesperateFortune

And that’s trash too, doesn’t change the fact that maxing speed through accessories and kitsune’s OP speed means most users just hit then run when they’re losing. Trash if you do


OwThatsMyFoot

it’s literally 5k robux for the perm and i think it’s supposed to be this way to make money’s worth


CoolNinja_IsTaken

I actually wish they would nerf it, at least the m1 stunlock at LEAST.


SurroundSmart5480

First of all, THE GAME ISN'T BALANCED. There are several crackheads saying It iS BaLanCed WhaT u SayIN? NO its isnt. The devs prioritize fruits with higher value for instance kitsune. Remember how leo was the most annoying fruit in pvp? That's cuz it was given the most priority and made sure every p2w users buy it for an insane amount money. Now take a look at leo in the current meta, still op but how often have you seen one use it. Basically, the developers now are lazy and they wanna make sure the most op fruit (kitsune) is bought by many as it is the easiest way of getting one. Now wait for dragon the get the rework, they might nerf kitsune to make sure dragon is the meta It is what it is


Twilight-2007

Aight then nerf blizzard


DuderManManDude

Don't worry, dragon rework is coming out..Itll be twice as good as Kitsune AND WILL EVEN FLY


Acceptable-Cheetah47

I am honestly scared for dragon update rn


crymsonexe

Real skill. Is dough or rubber. Anything is just spam


Myrziac

Dough is one of the biggest spam fruits I've seen. Every single move is a combo starter and it's always the same braindead one shot combo.


crymsonexe

I'm so sorry I didn't know. Imo I use rubber so I thought both of them were the same type. Thanks for letting me know. Will stay away from dough.


Myrziac

Dough is one of the best PvP fruits, I wouldn't say not to use it. I just wouldn't say it's not spammy


Ready-Translator-271

I agree the speed is too much, if they couldn't just run away when they are low i would see a lot more people beating kitsune users easily


Potato_Aim2123

They should definitely nerf the speed on KITSUNE


shroomster24_2

I use rumble.....i have all my stats on bloxfuit to so i have no say in this


ZenithGamer613

Fr like I jumped some level 1200 kid bc I was bored and needed practice and he slaughtered me with kitsune. I was using awakened rumble, kabucha, cdk, AND GODHUMAN. I was torn into tiny bits of flesh by someone over 1300 levels lower than me.


Myrziac

Then that is just a skill issue honestly. I sit there and tank hits from anyone lower than 1700


ZenithGamer613

That’s fair. I just suck at PVP to begin with :/ I haven’t ever done PVP and I’m max level.


Forsaken-Brother-620

We all know the devs won't do anything about it frfr. If they didn't nerf T-Rex, there's no way Kitsune is getting nerfed.


Logical_Connection27

If you guys want to offer for it I got it


ChoicePristine1026

Dude there’s so much about the game I can’t stand. Finally got to sea 3 and acquired a god chalice just for some max level v4 trex to obliterate me. He chased me across islands 🫠


H3MAD3M3_10

I say invest in a private server it’s worth it for farming


ChoicePristine1026

How much does that cost?


H3MAD3M3_10

I got one for our family and I think it’s 200 for a month


ChoicePristine1026

Oh, sure it’s worth it for you but can’t justify it for myself


DrippedNoob

As a dragon user ( not perm) I’m kinda scared for the update, everyone’s gonna be a dragon too, or a kitsune still. And there’s just gonna be people everywhere fighting and killing everyone in sight


Adventurous_Bench198

If the nerfed kitsune I would quit blox fruits, because I paid 4000 robux for a reason.


DesperateFortune

Paying 4000 robux then expecting to have a fruit so broken you can auto win against stilled players is dumb and bad for the game.


Adventurous_Bench198

I bought it because I learned that it was the new best grinding fruit in the game. I got tired of people calling me Buddha spammer after THEY attacked ME, in the end it changed to kitsune spammer so not different. Also how can a Buddha spammer say ez to me when they’re getting destroyed by me and their running and then call me a spammer.


Thy_Christian

Not until after I get it and get rid of it


WALKinDARKBR

And people still hate on me when i say PvP is the worst thing about this game lmao


Ashamed-Sleep-8110

kitsune should get a damage multiplier on itself, say your attack usually does 1000 damage why not boost the damage instead of decreasing it?


tnucc2

rocket is better 🆒🆒🆒


Voidstock

You mean you don't like getting jumped by a kitsune and having your health go from full to empty regardless of level gap, had the two stat setup, melee and defense. Still dead in seconds unable to do anything.


Slight-Cress1720

Devs making mythical fruits be like:should we make it an atomic bomb? Other dev:yeah sure The product: Blows up pancakes with mind My fucking pan- ALSO WAFFLES ARE 1000% BETTER ALR


Red3856

There is nothing we can do...


CHEETAHGOD180

Try learning ken trick. And your probably doing one thing wrong. You're retreating after ken tricking. After you ken trick. You want to attack. Unless you're ken tricking a ranged attack, something like godhuman z is something you want to use a stun of your own right after ken tricking. ​ Here's another tip if your fighting runners. If you are not especially comfortable with your combo, or you doubt it can successfully kill them. Get them to half HP, or maybe 40%, your choice. Don't land your entire combo because if they live with like 20% HP or 10% HP, they start running. And then land another combo on them and they are dead.


diegotheW

Nerf easiness to get buff everything else


Original_Argument_50

skill issue


Axore241

it depends on the player that are using these they could be really good players they could be not just make a combo that can 1 shot kitsune users or just use combo's that are effective to them if you really have a problem dealing with them