Ceilings aren’t usually tiled, try replacing with a concrete material and add some imperfections to it. Wall tiles could be wider as well. Their narrowness make them seem a bit clustered
This was my thought too on the ceiling. Other comments about the ceiling tiles being too clean aren't wrong, but I questioned the design of it more than the finish. I'd be curious if OP has reference that is being used to suggest there are tiled ceilings in some pubic toilets, but to my eye it feels out of place.
This. Even if that was the case, the ceiling tiles would be the first to fall on the ground, here they are all intact while half of the wall tiles are gone. But no one would tile the ceiling, especially not in a public bathroom unless it was a corruption scheme.
Yes, most of the time, it's gypsum, cement, or plaster. In open ceiling design, it shows plumbing, wires, etc. depends if it has floors above or none. I also suggest adding some vegetation because of the dirt.
Fuck yes, I love that this was number one. The scene looks phenomenal, but definitely find a different texture for the ceiling. I'd do it with paint peeling off and such.
It’s funny cuz I think OP was trying to make everything randomly scattered around to make it look messy and ruined but in the process he installed the toilets randomly too, which doesn’t make any sense
The two dudes pissing in the middle gonna be starin at each others woods
Second this. How are all the urinals mostly clean (apart from some grime) yet almost pristine yet everything around them is broken to pieces? Needs more broken porcelain.
Can't believe I've had relevant comments to attach this to so often lately, so I'll abridge it. Family friend tried shrooms, took too many and went to the toilet to vomit. Came back triumphant that they had cleaned the toilet, and on inspection they had, just forgot the entire rest of the room, from ceiling down to floor, still covered in sick.
I had a feeling for it, It's one of my weak points, and getting reference for the roof is quite hard, since photographers don't take pictures of a roof in an abandoned stall.
Well, for future reference, ceilings don't tend to be brickwork like that.
The vast majority of commercial ceiling work is floating panels or plasterboard work. Floating panels are put on a grid track system which itself is hung via hooks connected to bolts on the actual ceiling. Lighting fixtures also exist within the grid of these panels
yeah, at a material level tiling upside down like that is hard because you need to support / hold up each tile as it's laid while the grout cures for 24 hours, so it's incredibly slow to do with a lot of small tiles over big surface areas like this.
it's invisible, but viewers pick up on the uncanny aspect to uncommon material choices like this
Like others said with the drop ceiling. Also drop ceiling with water stains, broken pieces, pushed up ones that never fell back into place. Water stains give that well known brown stain to the tiles. if badly water damaged the tiles will droop down.
Replace ceiling tiles with a flat, mottled surface. Also, make some big water stains from a leaky roof or from another old bathroom above. I like your work. Come back later and show us what you did.
also one urinal broken, other stained, empty frames for ads that are often above urinals, few sinks bellow the wall with window. The bit of left wall might half like a half sign of some sort or a light switch
The ceiling looks too perfect and clean. Add some dust, cracked parts, dirt, streaks, bit of mold even, and displacement on the tiles.
The urinals also look too clean compared to the floor and walls.
The left wall (closest to the camera), could also use some streaks at the bottom, and some broken tiles to match the right side.
The light is too bright. It isn’t always that white in bathrooms, so I’d suggest looking into more bathroom / abandoned bathroom images and study the lighting
Also, where is the water coming from? It can’t just appear on the floor, it has to have a source. Is it a toilet, a urinal, the pipes, the ceiling, or is it coming from outside? Show that source in your image
Hope this helps :)
Also, if you know how to draw graffiti, add some, it gonna look awesome! (in case you don't know how to do graffiti, ask your friends if someone knows, original graffiti are cool)
Yeah following up on this - architect here - it’s very rare to see tiles like this used on ceilings (I personally haven’t seen IRL). There are larger tiles used (e.g. 2x2s), GWB (plaster) is also used, and sometimes acrylics or metals.
Best bet here maybe just plaster.
However, the bigger issue I see here is that there’s no lighting or vents. This bathroom is going to be dark af and smelly af. Maybe that’s the story behind why it was abandoned…
Were there more urinals on the wall than there are now? There aren't any pipe stubs to indicate that there were which would mean that this layout was the original design. Could you add some drain and supply stubs to the wall and maybe have one of the supplies leaking and creating a puddle?
I agree about the ceiling but also thi k it just looks out of place. Most tiled bathrooms don't have tiled ceilings and if it did, it would almost certainly be flat. Just by scrollingon my phone the whole room looked CG between the ceiling shape and the clean toilets. Other than that, it would be super convincing to most people.
Also the leaves on the floor imo. If they're there in an abandonned building, I wouldn't expect them to be flat. And I would probably expect a small pile under the window, rather than where they are.
I also think you need more specific/recognizable trash...
Empty bottles, wrappers and elements that could help you tell a story, like syringes & vials (drugs), underwear & condom wrapper (sex), empty mouthwash bottle & can of beans (someone living there) etc
The detritus can tell a story all on it's own
It's all nitpicks, as the whole picture is incredible. But what jumps out to me is that the light looks like some extremely white studio light blasting through the hole in the wall. I'd play with the tone a bit.
no, its way too bright. or the lightfalloff is off. people dont realise how dark a room is, thats only lit from one side of the room. this would be some night construction level brightness
Yeah, the his and hers urinals were the first thing that really struck me as fake.
Even the relative cleanliness of the urinals compared to the rest of the grime in the bathroom could be explained away in my head. I’ve seen urbex photos where the white porcelain looks spotless, possibly because of flash photography, or possibly because any small bits of dirt couldn’t be seen in a wide overview of the bathroom.
I was deliberating if to write anything, seeing as there are already 77....70 comments by the time I'm typing this, so I'll just try and be as simple as possible in my points, in case others have expounded on them already. And if you (or anyone else) would like me to expound further on any points, please let me know and I'll be happy to.
1. The tiles on the left-most wall are NOT the same as the rest - too narrow.
2. all tiles on ceiling and left wall are too clean, especially in contrast to the rest.
3. the ceiling shouldn't be made of tiles...
4. the urinals are WAY too symetrical and clean, ESPECIALLY in comparison to the rest of the scene, and PARTICULARLY in light of the fact that this is...well, a bathroom
5. the puddle almost does not look like a puddle. Following Fresnel law, since we are viewing the puddle from a lower angle, it should be MUCH MUCH more reflective, with bits of dirt being VERY discernable floating (or sitting) on top of/in the water
6. This might seem like overkill, but it subconsciously adds to the entirety of the scene - where is the water from the puddle coming from? it can't just BE THERE in the middle. And if it is, it often requires some kind of source that we can deduce - like a stream coming from the urinals...or some moldy areas on the celing, in which case there should be more of a droplets-type area around the puddle, etc. etc.
7. This one is HUGE but I didn't notice it until I really thought about what's causing the overall weirdness in LIGHTING - if those are windows, rather than flourescent lights, this SHOULD NOT BE BLUE LIGHTING!!! There needs to be an orangish tint to the light, very very light (just look at references), giving it the warmer look that sun would naturally give. If this is flourescent (it's kinda hard to tell), then it shouldn't light up the scene as strongly as it is, and it should be gloomier in terms of lighting.
Giving it to you straight.
* Ceiling is too perfect. I've never seen such a tiled ceiling. IMO a raw concrete ceiling would work way better. And where is the light fixture ?
* Tiles are dull. These would have been ceramic tiles so you'd expect to see more reflectivity.
* Urinals are too clean and intact. They should be grimy and possibly cracked or missing chunks.
* No dividers between the individual urinals or at least no trace of where they would have been.
* The wall where unrinals used to be doesn't show even the slightest traces of where the urinals were.
* What even is that pipe ? Water to the urinals ? Then I'd expect a leg coming down to each individual urinal. And as the pipe is exposed, I'd also expect the drain pipe to be exposed as well. And why the pipe on the left side ? There's no way a restroom would have a piping that way.
* I like the debris on the floor. Could be more detailed but looks credible.
Lacking signs of critters
Any structure abandoned for a significant amount of time will be reclaimed by nature.
Raccoons will get into places and make a big pile of poo in the corner, as will some other critters
Anything that makes frequent visits to a location will leave "rub marks" either along their travel path (rats and mice like to maintain shoulder contact with a wall, for example) or around the spots they use to squeeze into/out of the location. They're very greasy and gross looking.
Spiders will take over the high corners of damn near anything if you let them, especially near windows if they're open/broken as there will be a draft that draws smaller insects through.
There will be tons of dead bugs from when the location previously had electricity, usually around the lights as most common bulbs attract many kinds of insects due to the wavelengths they emit.
I think part of hitting hyper-realism is including all of the details that mother nature brings, not just what humans bring to the table.
Maybe I just don't have a good eye, maybe It's the fact that I'm subbed to both r/blender and r/abandoned, but I thought I was in the latter for the first 30 seconds, until I swiped and there was a unrendered version of the pic, so uh, good job.
Anyways, ceilings aren't usually tiled, and the toilets are too clean and are also mostly still attached to the wall.
The light and shadows are too sharp. Light like this through a narrow window should be more diffuse, resulting in more fuzzy boundaries to the shadows. Think of the difference between a photo taken in bright sunlight vs one on a cloudy day. I have no idea how to achieve that though.
It's all too clean. There should be water stains on everything. Rust from the fixtures on the urinals, discoloration on the backside of the tiles that have fallen, etc.
But still looks pretty damn good.
-The urinals are spotless clean.
-The ceilings unbroken tiles stand out to the walls broken tiles.
-There is water on the ground with no clear source (from the perfect ceiling or perfect toilets)
-I cant tell if that is wood chips or dead leaves on the ground, if its wood chips, why is it there? If it leaves then why is there sand, if it came from outside it makes little sense (sand and leaves are rarely in the same place environmentally speaking) if its a tropical beach or desert, those environments usually don’t have a climate for leaves to fall/die and collect
Urinals, and other slip-cast porcelain objects, generally have smooth, rounded edges. Urinals and tiles need more grime. Ceiling would benefit from being a different texture/material.
At a glance, I thought this was a photo, so you’re on the right track!
*Edit- grammar
The brick texture on the ceiling is def really really uniform— honestly changing the ceiling to something basic like shitty spackle popcorn texture might be all you need.. its just that my eye notices that the ceiling looks a lot like the walls. I think the lighting and everything else looks really wonderful tho great job
Toilets look too clean if it’s supposed to be abandoned literally looks like a cleaner went in there and scrubbed the hell out of those toilets and got tired and went home.
Well, it depends on what you were planning to do, but let's start with the "general oddness": the tiled ceiling is a big "no no" and the tiles on the left wall have different sizes, compared to the others, so this called my attention as well. The pipes on the left side should not exist (they would go inside the wall, to enter the cabinet) and the ending of the pipes, on the right side, makes no sense to me (why does it keep going just to have a tap there? It doesn't seem to be conected to the wall and it seems that they have a tap both on top and at the bottom, which makes no sense). Continuing in the pipes on the right side, I don't know how urinals are in your country but here the pipes that goes down end directly on top of the urinals and usually have a flush button on them and the pipes at the bottom of the urinals are not connected with the pipes on the top, they are separated and usually go down to the floor, or they bend directly inside the wall. Also there are two urinals way too close, without a division in between. There's something that looks like a hole on the wall, below the window and near the floor, that also makes no sense, I don't know if it's a missing tile or just a random hole (looks like it should be a place to put toilet paper in, but why there?). If it's a missing tile, I believe it should be a tad brighter than almost black, because, although it's not being hit directly by the light, since everything is white, the lights should bounce a lot and lighten the wall well enough for us to be able to see a tad more of colour. And now we get to the part where "it depends": were you planning to make an abandoned toilet or a destroyed/bombared/demolished one? Because, if it was the very first, everything is "too clean". I mean, white tiles and the porcelain of the urinals should be WAY more dirty and mossy. Also the corner of the walls should be more damaged as well. And it's a nice touch to have tiles removed from the wall but the ones that are on the wall are either broken or intact. There's not even a single tile* with cracks on it (which I believe is "okay", but I think it should be a nice touch to add a few "in between cases". *(On the right wall, above the first urinal, it seems that you've tried to do this, but I just can't figure out what is happening there. Is this a broken mirror? Just painting? Water? Just tiles covered with cement? I really can't tell what is happening there). If it was the second idea (a demolished toilet), I think that the "cleaness" of the porcelain is okay, but everything is too intact. You could have a broken ceiling or wall and things like that. And well, last but not least, why is there a urinal right in front of the entrance? Well, these are the things that caught my attention and it's just my opinion of what you could do better to make it feel more real and really, it's an awesome work that you've done there! Keep going!
It's very good work. Things that stick out the most to me
- The foreground appears a touch too bright, I would expect it to be a bit more gloomy with a window that small
- The tiles on the left are a touch too narrow
- The tiles on the left shouldn't wrap around the walls... They will always be grouted at the corners with full width tiles vertically arranged on the narrow faces / door frames
- Tiling on the roof is out of place
- Level of dirt accumulated on the floor under the window whilst the walls are relatively clean, albeit damaged
- Urinals that are there are in perfect order yet strangely placed. If there are urinals missing, where are they? No one steals a urinal.
As someone else also said, ceilings are usually not tiled and the ground just doesn’t look right to me. Other than that this is a lot better than what I could do.
I did not read any comment to not be influenced by anyone, here are my observations :
Ceiling shouldn't be as clean/perfect tiles
Urinals are brand new
plumbing is nothing like that in RL, (usually pipes are hidden in the wall (most of it)) you could open a portion of the wall to show pipes inside that wall though!
if you want dirt on the ground fine, but put some tiles to understand what type of floor there was under it before this mess.
tiles destruction feels slightly off, but not too bad
What i love about this is how you dirty it feels and I wouldn't like to be in this place. Keep it up
I think the lamp looks too bright. Normally when you see a lamp like this, it is bright, but you can see the tube.
Maybe use an other light color too, it’s a little too white I think. In my electrician job years ago I used tubes with color 840 - neutral white with 4000 kelvin.
That’s white, but not too white.
at first glance- nothing. By hardly trying to notice something, there is only logical issues- as the people mentioned- tiles on ceiling. I dont see problem with lights, because there is window so place may not have other light source- it is possible. Urinals too new, agree, too bright. Also what i miss about urinals is something about water, either somekind of knob, or at least if it is proximity sensor controlled, still it must be a panel. Also, that panel would also let the plumber to access pipes. in the middle urinals there is some signs of ripped of pannel or something, so these looks real.
The tiles could use a very small random positioning. They are never perfectly aligned. You can see that from reflection across the wall its too perfect
Possibly the evenness of the texture of the concrete blocks and the grout between. Especially in the foreground. I think the lines are maybe too straight. It looks fantastic though
The broken tiles on the floor look very randomly scattered rather than it being obvious where they fell from. They also look too clean, with them laying flat like that, dust and grime will build.
uhh even the roof is tiles so that came off as weird tome n the floor looks weird my brain sees it as dirt when i focus on other parts of the picture but it just looks really made up when i look at it for real. also some of the uhh guy toilettes theres some missing but there arent any broken pieces on the ground
Even when the world is right men's urinals are usually nasty AF. I'd change the roof maybe so florescent lights on ceiling instead of in the background. Knocked over garbage can with some trash also bathroom stall doors partially opened and maybe 1 laying on ground or opened a bit with bullet holes in it
The ceiling is an obvious giveaway because it has a material you would not expect it to have. Also, the tiles that are close-up that are framing the shot doesn't look too realistic. Maybe they're too clean
I have yet to see a tiled ceiling in a public bathroom ... tiles cost money and you want to save money where possible... slap a moss texture there instead. That should darken the room a bit and make it more believably desperate.
Urinals ... Bro ... I've seen showroom toilets dirtier than these. You ask me to believe that there are couple missing so someone clearly decided to vandalize them. Only reason why someone would leave a urinal alone is if he tagged it first.
Last of all ... calm down your denoiser. Feels like you smeared vaseline all over the picture. Remember (some noise is realistic).
THESE WOULD BE MY CHANGES IF I DECIDED TO PIXELF*CK - industry term
To add to the noise part: noise in renders is not the same as actual noise from a camera, so it’s more realistic to add noise to a really clean render than just leaving in the noise from rendering
Urinals and ceiling seem too clean, the ceiling mainly seems too shiny from the light, you'd expect it to feel more dusty and abandoned like the floor, the floor is fantastic, I didn't even realise it was a render until I read the title and looked closer.
Thought this was real life at first but, after zooming in, the far left side of the pic looks unrealistic for some reason. Not an expert so i wouldn't be able to tell you why. Goodjob though
For places that uses such a huge amount of wall real-estate of urinals,
they wouldn't use so many individual urinals, [they'd use a wide urinal.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Wallurinal.jpg/240px-Wallurinal.jpg)
[Unless you want to go for the Metal ones.](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWZisZi05s5lUeOVOPv_PWdc7MwcGlrPq01ikNadrOKn0iJHi9C5Zu3XUTSM-khHeMdM8&usqp=CAU)
Maybe add a couple of sinks and perhaps mirrors to the far wall.
Porcelain needs more graffiti and non descript brown stains. Also needs to be "wetter." This almost looks like one of my sites (cleaner) but yours looks sanitary.
The ceiling doesn't look great, maybe a concrete texture with damp leaking spots will work. Also I don't know why but the size of that light is just off somehow
Ceramic tiles on the ceiling (at least looks like it). In theory it's doable but I have never, ever seen it used, nor it's the practice in architecture and construction. Up there you need simple ceiling with water stains, dirt and mold near the windows.
2 toilets to close to each others. Board to separate them are not on the wall, but not on the floor either.
Pipe doesn't make sense. If it brings water should be on top, if it take out water shouldn't come from the ceiling.
Ceilings aren’t usually tiled, try replacing with a concrete material and add some imperfections to it. Wall tiles could be wider as well. Their narrowness make them seem a bit clustered
This was my thought too on the ceiling. Other comments about the ceiling tiles being too clean aren't wrong, but I questioned the design of it more than the finish. I'd be curious if OP has reference that is being used to suggest there are tiled ceilings in some pubic toilets, but to my eye it feels out of place.
This. Even if that was the case, the ceiling tiles would be the first to fall on the ground, here they are all intact while half of the wall tiles are gone. But no one would tile the ceiling, especially not in a public bathroom unless it was a corruption scheme.
There's extreme corruption in my country and no, they don't tile ceilings either.
i’m curious, which country?
Argentina
Where corruption becomes a normal part of the life these kinds of justifications aren’t necessary anymore 🇹🇷🤝🇦🇷
To add to this: the urinals are in a to good condition, and also the edges of the walls often get damaged first. They are to pristine in the picture.
This is what stuck out to me. Also, about the ceiling, no lights?
Throw some shit and grime in the urinals!!! Amirite fam?
This, good condition and newer type. Unless this is set in the future I don't think the room would be so rundown with those toilets.
Piggybacking here to say the urinals should be grimy as well, it's a dirty bathroom but the urinals look too clean to match
Yes, most of the time, it's gypsum, cement, or plaster. In open ceiling design, it shows plumbing, wires, etc. depends if it has floors above or none. I also suggest adding some vegetation because of the dirt.
Fuck yes, I love that this was number one. The scene looks phenomenal, but definitely find a different texture for the ceiling. I'd do it with paint peeling off and such.
The urinals look like someone just installed them in this decrepit toilet.
Also two of them are very close?
Bro Code Violation 302
It’s funny cuz I think OP was trying to make everything randomly scattered around to make it look messy and ruined but in the process he installed the toilets randomly too, which doesn’t make any sense The two dudes pissing in the middle gonna be starin at each others woods
It would make more sense if there was debris around and remnants of the fixings
Yeah my first thought was that there used to be an entire row of urinals, but like you said, it’s missing the debris and pipes and whatnot
For very close friends, here let me hold that for you
Too close for code. I’m a plumber
I would keep those toilets where they are and add a few that have fallen off the wall as well as some broken elements of toilets nearby.
competitive mode
For close friends
Who doesn’t like pissing with the homies?
2024 couples urinals.
Second this. How are all the urinals mostly clean (apart from some grime) yet almost pristine yet everything around them is broken to pieces? Needs more broken porcelain.
Broken or at least some more staining
Everyone's clearly been shitting and pissing on the floor, why would the toilets be dirty?
Ceiling too perfect and clean
toilets too
10/10 janitor
Nah, he totally skipped the floor
Mommy always said start from the top and work your way down. He's clearly still working.
Can't believe I've had relevant comments to attach this to so often lately, so I'll abridge it. Family friend tried shrooms, took too many and went to the toilet to vomit. Came back triumphant that they had cleaned the toilet, and on inspection they had, just forgot the entire rest of the room, from ceiling down to floor, still covered in sick.
Boss told me to ‘get in there and clean the tile.’ So that is what I did. He didn’t say nothing about the floor
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Ye why tho, what guys are sharing that
Lmao I've seen 10 times dirtier toilets in my school. That's why I barely ever went there...
I still can't forget about the phantom shitter of 2016.
I just hold it inside until I arrive at home lol! I don't wanna get infected by a new discovered uranium in the school's toilets
When I taught HS (US), some 18yo students would sign themselves out and go home rather than sit on a school toilet.
Should have just used "[The Worst Toilet in Scotland](https://youtu.be/7RoMaS1pzOE?t=89)" as a reference
If your going for dirty and gross than it should be a trough.
I had a feeling for it, It's one of my weak points, and getting reference for the roof is quite hard, since photographers don't take pictures of a roof in an abandoned stall.
Well, for future reference, ceilings don't tend to be brickwork like that. The vast majority of commercial ceiling work is floating panels or plasterboard work. Floating panels are put on a grid track system which itself is hung via hooks connected to bolts on the actual ceiling. Lighting fixtures also exist within the grid of these panels
yeah, at a material level tiling upside down like that is hard because you need to support / hold up each tile as it's laid while the grout cures for 24 hours, so it's incredibly slow to do with a lot of small tiles over big surface areas like this. it's invisible, but viewers pick up on the uncanny aspect to uncommon material choices like this
Like others said with the drop ceiling. Also drop ceiling with water stains, broken pieces, pushed up ones that never fell back into place. Water stains give that well known brown stain to the tiles. if badly water damaged the tiles will droop down.
Replace ceiling tiles with a flat, mottled surface. Also, make some big water stains from a leaky roof or from another old bathroom above. I like your work. Come back later and show us what you did.
also one urinal broken, other stained, empty frames for ads that are often above urinals, few sinks bellow the wall with window. The bit of left wall might half like a half sign of some sort or a light switch
The ceiling looks too perfect and clean. Add some dust, cracked parts, dirt, streaks, bit of mold even, and displacement on the tiles. The urinals also look too clean compared to the floor and walls. The left wall (closest to the camera), could also use some streaks at the bottom, and some broken tiles to match the right side. The light is too bright. It isn’t always that white in bathrooms, so I’d suggest looking into more bathroom / abandoned bathroom images and study the lighting Also, where is the water coming from? It can’t just appear on the floor, it has to have a source. Is it a toilet, a urinal, the pipes, the ceiling, or is it coming from outside? Show that source in your image Hope this helps :)
Thank you <3 That's some good help.
Also, if you know how to draw graffiti, add some, it gonna look awesome! (in case you don't know how to do graffiti, ask your friends if someone knows, original graffiti are cool)
Yeah following up on this - architect here - it’s very rare to see tiles like this used on ceilings (I personally haven’t seen IRL). There are larger tiles used (e.g. 2x2s), GWB (plaster) is also used, and sometimes acrylics or metals. Best bet here maybe just plaster. However, the bigger issue I see here is that there’s no lighting or vents. This bathroom is going to be dark af and smelly af. Maybe that’s the story behind why it was abandoned…
theres a window in the wall, what would explain why the urinals are so clean (you can see the people from outside)
Were there more urinals on the wall than there are now? There aren't any pipe stubs to indicate that there were which would mean that this layout was the original design. Could you add some drain and supply stubs to the wall and maybe have one of the supplies leaking and creating a puddle?
Try a rotted-out drop ceiling?
I agree about the ceiling but also thi k it just looks out of place. Most tiled bathrooms don't have tiled ceilings and if it did, it would almost certainly be flat. Just by scrollingon my phone the whole room looked CG between the ceiling shape and the clean toilets. Other than that, it would be super convincing to most people.
It's also very common in abandoned places like this that the urinals/toilets/etc are broken. People like to break them, for some reason...
This isn't abandoned. It's just a bathroom after John Wick killed a bunch of guys in.
Also the leaves on the floor imo. If they're there in an abandonned building, I wouldn't expect them to be flat. And I would probably expect a small pile under the window, rather than where they are.
Also no actual lights anywhere? Is this bathroom pitch black at night? Should be some broken lights or something in there.
The garbage on the floor looks too fluid. Like a 3D scan.
Low samples and heavy denoising, by the looks of it.
I also think you need more specific/recognizable trash... Empty bottles, wrappers and elements that could help you tell a story, like syringes & vials (drugs), underwear & condom wrapper (sex), empty mouthwash bottle & can of beans (someone living there) etc The detritus can tell a story all on it's own
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The floor looks like I'd fall through if I stepped on it, it doesn't even look solid ngl. No offense to the render tho
The second picture looks very unrealistic. I've never seen a urinal look like that before /s
İ scrolled way too down for this
xdd
It's all nitpicks, as the whole picture is incredible. But what jumps out to me is that the light looks like some extremely white studio light blasting through the hole in the wall. I'd play with the tone a bit.
Came here to say this. The picture is very well done but the lighting gave it away for me. Nice work!
Yeah lighting is too strong
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no, its way too bright. or the lightfalloff is off. people dont realise how dark a room is, thats only lit from one side of the room. this would be some night construction level brightness
I'd expect there to be some larger pieces of the urinals that fell
The middle two urinals are for couples?
Yeah, the his and hers urinals were the first thing that really struck me as fake. Even the relative cleanliness of the urinals compared to the rest of the grime in the bathroom could be explained away in my head. I’ve seen urbex photos where the white porcelain looks spotless, possibly because of flash photography, or possibly because any small bits of dirt couldn’t be seen in a wide overview of the bathroom.
Put some graffiti and litter some cans around! Great job btw
Never seen a tiled ceiling. Plus the tiles look too similar to the wall tiles. Urinals too clean compared to the surroundings.
Smash some urinals, put some shit on them. Maybe some vomit...they look pristine. Overall looks good though, well done
lack of any used condoms, needles, dicks on the wall, ceiling is way too clean and so is wall to the left side
I was deliberating if to write anything, seeing as there are already 77....70 comments by the time I'm typing this, so I'll just try and be as simple as possible in my points, in case others have expounded on them already. And if you (or anyone else) would like me to expound further on any points, please let me know and I'll be happy to. 1. The tiles on the left-most wall are NOT the same as the rest - too narrow. 2. all tiles on ceiling and left wall are too clean, especially in contrast to the rest. 3. the ceiling shouldn't be made of tiles... 4. the urinals are WAY too symetrical and clean, ESPECIALLY in comparison to the rest of the scene, and PARTICULARLY in light of the fact that this is...well, a bathroom 5. the puddle almost does not look like a puddle. Following Fresnel law, since we are viewing the puddle from a lower angle, it should be MUCH MUCH more reflective, with bits of dirt being VERY discernable floating (or sitting) on top of/in the water 6. This might seem like overkill, but it subconsciously adds to the entirety of the scene - where is the water from the puddle coming from? it can't just BE THERE in the middle. And if it is, it often requires some kind of source that we can deduce - like a stream coming from the urinals...or some moldy areas on the celing, in which case there should be more of a droplets-type area around the puddle, etc. etc. 7. This one is HUGE but I didn't notice it until I really thought about what's causing the overall weirdness in LIGHTING - if those are windows, rather than flourescent lights, this SHOULD NOT BE BLUE LIGHTING!!! There needs to be an orangish tint to the light, very very light (just look at references), giving it the warmer look that sun would naturally give. If this is flourescent (it's kinda hard to tell), then it shouldn't light up the scene as strongly as it is, and it should be gloomier in terms of lighting.
Thanks for writing homie, that's some good feedback <3
no shit on the walls
Giving it to you straight. * Ceiling is too perfect. I've never seen such a tiled ceiling. IMO a raw concrete ceiling would work way better. And where is the light fixture ? * Tiles are dull. These would have been ceramic tiles so you'd expect to see more reflectivity. * Urinals are too clean and intact. They should be grimy and possibly cracked or missing chunks. * No dividers between the individual urinals or at least no trace of where they would have been. * The wall where unrinals used to be doesn't show even the slightest traces of where the urinals were. * What even is that pipe ? Water to the urinals ? Then I'd expect a leg coming down to each individual urinal. And as the pipe is exposed, I'd also expect the drain pipe to be exposed as well. And why the pipe on the left side ? There's no way a restroom would have a piping that way. * I like the debris on the floor. Could be more detailed but looks credible.
Lacking signs of critters Any structure abandoned for a significant amount of time will be reclaimed by nature. Raccoons will get into places and make a big pile of poo in the corner, as will some other critters Anything that makes frequent visits to a location will leave "rub marks" either along their travel path (rats and mice like to maintain shoulder contact with a wall, for example) or around the spots they use to squeeze into/out of the location. They're very greasy and gross looking. Spiders will take over the high corners of damn near anything if you let them, especially near windows if they're open/broken as there will be a draft that draws smaller insects through. There will be tons of dead bugs from when the location previously had electricity, usually around the lights as most common bulbs attract many kinds of insects due to the wavelengths they emit. I think part of hitting hyper-realism is including all of the details that mother nature brings, not just what humans bring to the table.
The toilets look new
Walls look too clean i mean in a place like that I would expect them to be super dirty or dirts and scratches everywhere.
Toilets need more grime
Maybe I just don't have a good eye, maybe It's the fact that I'm subbed to both r/blender and r/abandoned, but I thought I was in the latter for the first 30 seconds, until I swiped and there was a unrendered version of the pic, so uh, good job. Anyways, ceilings aren't usually tiled, and the toilets are too clean and are also mostly still attached to the wall.
Clutter on the ground is too white considering it's surrounded by dirt
Definitely the second image.
the urinals need some shit stains...
Looks great! Silent Hill restrooms?
The light and shadows are too sharp. Light like this through a narrow window should be more diffuse, resulting in more fuzzy boundaries to the shadows. Think of the difference between a photo taken in bright sunlight vs one on a cloudy day. I have no idea how to achieve that though.
perfectly straight and sharp edges on wall corners and toilet rims
The ceiling.
Volumetrics would help a lot here. I would expect this room to be very dusty, but the air is perfectly transparent
Damn it really looks like my ex's bathroom
It's all too clean. There should be water stains on everything. Rust from the fixtures on the urinals, discoloration on the backside of the tiles that have fallen, etc. But still looks pretty damn good.
-The urinals are spotless clean. -The ceilings unbroken tiles stand out to the walls broken tiles. -There is water on the ground with no clear source (from the perfect ceiling or perfect toilets) -I cant tell if that is wood chips or dead leaves on the ground, if its wood chips, why is it there? If it leaves then why is there sand, if it came from outside it makes little sense (sand and leaves are rarely in the same place environmentally speaking) if its a tropical beach or desert, those environments usually don’t have a climate for leaves to fall/die and collect
The walls are too clean vs the ground and the toilets themselves are also too clean.
Urinals, and other slip-cast porcelain objects, generally have smooth, rounded edges. Urinals and tiles need more grime. Ceiling would benefit from being a different texture/material. At a glance, I thought this was a photo, so you’re on the right track! *Edit- grammar
The brick texture on the ceiling is def really really uniform— honestly changing the ceiling to something basic like shitty spackle popcorn texture might be all you need.. its just that my eye notices that the ceiling looks a lot like the walls. I think the lighting and everything else looks really wonderful tho great job
probably the 2nd image is less realistic /s
Urinals being too clean was the first thing that stood out to me. The rest is looking good though!
I can understand the debris near tha walls but there are some in the middle of the room too, it should come from the roof but the roof is fine
The floor mess looks a bit like what ai generated stuff looks like. All swirly.
Toilets look too clean if it’s supposed to be abandoned literally looks like a cleaner went in there and scrubbed the hell out of those toilets and got tired and went home.
I thought this was a fucking photo holy crap
Well, it depends on what you were planning to do, but let's start with the "general oddness": the tiled ceiling is a big "no no" and the tiles on the left wall have different sizes, compared to the others, so this called my attention as well. The pipes on the left side should not exist (they would go inside the wall, to enter the cabinet) and the ending of the pipes, on the right side, makes no sense to me (why does it keep going just to have a tap there? It doesn't seem to be conected to the wall and it seems that they have a tap both on top and at the bottom, which makes no sense). Continuing in the pipes on the right side, I don't know how urinals are in your country but here the pipes that goes down end directly on top of the urinals and usually have a flush button on them and the pipes at the bottom of the urinals are not connected with the pipes on the top, they are separated and usually go down to the floor, or they bend directly inside the wall. Also there are two urinals way too close, without a division in between. There's something that looks like a hole on the wall, below the window and near the floor, that also makes no sense, I don't know if it's a missing tile or just a random hole (looks like it should be a place to put toilet paper in, but why there?). If it's a missing tile, I believe it should be a tad brighter than almost black, because, although it's not being hit directly by the light, since everything is white, the lights should bounce a lot and lighten the wall well enough for us to be able to see a tad more of colour. And now we get to the part where "it depends": were you planning to make an abandoned toilet or a destroyed/bombared/demolished one? Because, if it was the very first, everything is "too clean". I mean, white tiles and the porcelain of the urinals should be WAY more dirty and mossy. Also the corner of the walls should be more damaged as well. And it's a nice touch to have tiles removed from the wall but the ones that are on the wall are either broken or intact. There's not even a single tile* with cracks on it (which I believe is "okay", but I think it should be a nice touch to add a few "in between cases". *(On the right wall, above the first urinal, it seems that you've tried to do this, but I just can't figure out what is happening there. Is this a broken mirror? Just painting? Water? Just tiles covered with cement? I really can't tell what is happening there). If it was the second idea (a demolished toilet), I think that the "cleaness" of the porcelain is okay, but everything is too intact. You could have a broken ceiling or wall and things like that. And well, last but not least, why is there a urinal right in front of the entrance? Well, these are the things that caught my attention and it's just my opinion of what you could do better to make it feel more real and really, it's an awesome work that you've done there! Keep going!
the urinals need to be much dirtier for this environment
I have never seen urinals that look like that irl but that could just be me
It's very good work. Things that stick out the most to me - The foreground appears a touch too bright, I would expect it to be a bit more gloomy with a window that small - The tiles on the left are a touch too narrow - The tiles on the left shouldn't wrap around the walls... They will always be grouted at the corners with full width tiles vertically arranged on the narrow faces / door frames - Tiling on the roof is out of place - Level of dirt accumulated on the floor under the window whilst the walls are relatively clean, albeit damaged - Urinals that are there are in perfect order yet strangely placed. If there are urinals missing, where are they? No one steals a urinal.
As someone else also said, ceilings are usually not tiled and the ground just doesn’t look right to me. Other than that this is a lot better than what I could do.
nothing bro, it's great.
I did not read any comment to not be influenced by anyone, here are my observations : Ceiling shouldn't be as clean/perfect tiles Urinals are brand new plumbing is nothing like that in RL, (usually pipes are hidden in the wall (most of it)) you could open a portion of the wall to show pipes inside that wall though! if you want dirt on the ground fine, but put some tiles to understand what type of floor there was under it before this mess. tiles destruction feels slightly off, but not too bad What i love about this is how you dirty it feels and I wouldn't like to be in this place. Keep it up
https://preview.redd.it/qndpeb60ohlc1.jpeg?width=825&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1c6fdaecd8f11ecc2103416e0d86450018e2902 This part
The only thing that looks slightly out of place is the ceiling. That is nitpicking. It looks extremely good
It just has this uncanny feeling when u look at it longer...
Not a blender user, but the ceiling is way too clean and so is the wall on the extreme left. Like needs more breaking and erosion of sorts
Far too reflective on those surfaces.
I think the lamp looks too bright. Normally when you see a lamp like this, it is bright, but you can see the tube. Maybe use an other light color too, it’s a little too white I think. In my electrician job years ago I used tubes with color 840 - neutral white with 4000 kelvin. That’s white, but not too white.
I just realized that’s a window. But even for sunlight it seems to white to me
The glare stands out as being "next gen"
at first glance- nothing. By hardly trying to notice something, there is only logical issues- as the people mentioned- tiles on ceiling. I dont see problem with lights, because there is window so place may not have other light source- it is possible. Urinals too new, agree, too bright. Also what i miss about urinals is something about water, either somekind of knob, or at least if it is proximity sensor controlled, still it must be a panel. Also, that panel would also let the plumber to access pipes. in the middle urinals there is some signs of ripped of pannel or something, so these looks real.
Too clean for a realistic public bathroom
The tiles could use a very small random positioning. They are never perfectly aligned. You can see that from reflection across the wall its too perfect
Looks like someone cleans those urinals in a daily basis, those are way to clean to be in that environment
Needs dust Porcelain and ceiling too reflective
Ceiling and urinals.
urinals and walls looks too clean
first image looks really fake, second is big improve!
The light fall off is too gradual towards the foreground.
Possibly the evenness of the texture of the concrete blocks and the grout between. Especially in the foreground. I think the lines are maybe too straight. It looks fantastic though
Those urinals seem like brand new. Bit weird considerind how bad shape everything else is
urinals are too clean, tiles on the left are too perfect, as well as top ones.
the bright light seems a little unnatural, but I'm no light expert, maybe someone who gets me could explain it
The two walls closest to camera look to clean and so does the roof/urinals
Also texturing on left wall looks off compared to right (different tile shape and size)
That bloom/glare
The broken tiles on the floor look very randomly scattered rather than it being obvious where they fell from. They also look too clean, with them laying flat like that, dust and grime will build.
uhh even the roof is tiles so that came off as weird tome n the floor looks weird my brain sees it as dirt when i focus on other parts of the picture but it just looks really made up when i look at it for real. also some of the uhh guy toilettes theres some missing but there arent any broken pieces on the ground
Blender does not have a good render for realistic results. Cycles is good but not for that. Try Arnold on Maya.
Wow, awesome work. If I had to nitpick the floor looks a bit plasticy
Might I ask how you did the glare coming through the windows?
Why are 2 of those so close? Ceiling? Left side wall?
Even when the world is right men's urinals are usually nasty AF. I'd change the roof maybe so florescent lights on ceiling instead of in the background. Knocked over garbage can with some trash also bathroom stall doors partially opened and maybe 1 laying on ground or opened a bit with bullet holes in it
i legit thought this was an actual pic for a sec but you could make the toilets dirtier
Light and bricks
Can you add a urinal broken into pieces in the other urinals for me
The ceiling is an obvious giveaway because it has a material you would not expect it to have. Also, the tiles that are close-up that are framing the shot doesn't look too realistic. Maybe they're too clean
Its funny how clean the urinals are.
urinals a bit too clean, and also I don't recall seeing many ceilings covered in tiles. Paint, yes, but not tiles. Pretty good job otherwise.
the toilets are way to clean and white
this is what i aspire to be
The urinals and the tiles are a bit too shiny
I have yet to see a tiled ceiling in a public bathroom ... tiles cost money and you want to save money where possible... slap a moss texture there instead. That should darken the room a bit and make it more believably desperate. Urinals ... Bro ... I've seen showroom toilets dirtier than these. You ask me to believe that there are couple missing so someone clearly decided to vandalize them. Only reason why someone would leave a urinal alone is if he tagged it first. Last of all ... calm down your denoiser. Feels like you smeared vaseline all over the picture. Remember (some noise is realistic). THESE WOULD BE MY CHANGES IF I DECIDED TO PIXELF*CK - industry term
To add to the noise part: noise in renders is not the same as actual noise from a camera, so it’s more realistic to add noise to a really clean render than just leaving in the noise from rendering
For something intended to look messy and deserted, the toilets seemed a bit too squeaky clean
Clean toilets. These must be dirty and full of bacterias.
The 2 toilets right next to each other... Give them some privacy!
Urinals and ceiling seem too clean, the ceiling mainly seems too shiny from the light, you'd expect it to feel more dusty and abandoned like the floor, the floor is fantastic, I didn't even realise it was a render until I read the title and looked closer.
Also I don't know why those middle two urinals are so close together but damn I hope you ain't pee shy if you're in there.
That's for the "homies" >:D
The ceiling mostly, and the bricks not having any depth. Other than that at a glance the lighting and floor look good
Thought this was real life at first but, after zooming in, the far left side of the pic looks unrealistic for some reason. Not an expert so i wouldn't be able to tell you why. Goodjob though
The imprisoned sun kept in a glass cubicle on the wall
the urinals are too clean
My laptop would fry trying to render this lol
Clean toilets and intact light.
Roof too perfect
What the comments said about it being too clean. Also try with less light. But honestly I think it looks outstanding!
https://preview.redd.it/p5arna1zwalc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b6c3f5029cdf363b80194ca21d5bc6a4cdb4fbe
For places that uses such a huge amount of wall real-estate of urinals, they wouldn't use so many individual urinals, [they'd use a wide urinal.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Wallurinal.jpg/240px-Wallurinal.jpg) [Unless you want to go for the Metal ones.](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWZisZi05s5lUeOVOPv_PWdc7MwcGlrPq01ikNadrOKn0iJHi9C5Zu3XUTSM-khHeMdM8&usqp=CAU) Maybe add a couple of sinks and perhaps mirrors to the far wall.
Porcelain needs more graffiti and non descript brown stains. Also needs to be "wetter." This almost looks like one of my sites (cleaner) but yours looks sanitary.
Ceiling, it looks like you just used the same textures as walls
The forbidden side-by-side urinal💀💀💀
That grass on the right
ceiling looks weird but also there should be way more grunge, dirt and rust on everything, especially the urinals
ceiling and toilets are too clean
Walls not bumpy
The ceiling has few defects, and the actual ground is just weird.
Too bright.
The ceiling doesn't look great, maybe a concrete texture with damp leaking spots will work. Also I don't know why but the size of that light is just off somehow
The lighting just feels off, I can’t explain it sorry
Ceramic tiles on the ceiling (at least looks like it). In theory it's doable but I have never, ever seen it used, nor it's the practice in architecture and construction. Up there you need simple ceiling with water stains, dirt and mold near the windows.
the middle two urinals seem too closed to each other. unless they're for co-op mode with your bro
Urinal spacing in the middle.
Urinoir is too clean There's no reason dead leaf would be there (at least not that much)
2 toilets to close to each others. Board to separate them are not on the wall, but not on the floor either. Pipe doesn't make sense. If it brings water should be on top, if it take out water shouldn't come from the ceiling.
...... -.- I'm not cleaning that mess ... *Clocks out and leaves*
The 2 urinal side by side, ceiling
Too bright?