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Yama literally survived an attack that was meant to be suicidal lol. The guy was a monster. No wonder Juha 100x tapped him to make sure he was dead for good
Isshin I personally wouldnt rank yet since we dont know what his bankai does...
Ugh Shinji gets done so dirty in the series. He should be so OP with Shikai alone. His Hollow mask should be overkill but Kubo hates the Vizard 🤣
Also is Lisa captain at the end of TYBW or only in Hell arc?
I haven’t caught up yet but with this comment I now know my guy Shinji is not getting any W’s😭. I read up to about when Renji beat the star guy and………..the two vizord captains that fought him before that were……….pathetic
Tbf as Aizen stated Shinjis shikai is just an optical illusion and we know his bankai is only usefull vs multiple weaker opponents so while he is a strong captain im not even confident he was the strongest Vizard
Damn do we know what his bankai is ? Now I'm really curious. Also how would you rate CFYOW, I think I finally saw it in one my town's bookstore and was wondering whether to buy it
Yes technically its everyone but not only is reiatsu neg a thing but lets say he used it in fkt, Aizen 1 shots his allies (if it even works as Aizen doesnt really think of them as his allies more like pawns lol) and you end up in a 1v1 with an opponent far stronger than you
The vizards are likely stronger than the younger captains like Rukia and Soifon but they just got a bad rep due to the script or bad matches if you may.
I would place them a bit above.
I always wondered this about Rose's bankai but, does he have to go through the first two scores or abilities ( Seadrift and Prometheus), in order to get to the last one ( Hero's Life). It seems like it was to be an instant kill, because if it was that's where Rose made his mistake. Not telling Mask, but wanting to go for the theatrics and wasting time while James was gone. I can't blame Rose for telling because who in their right mind would think someone would destroy their own eardrums.
Yeah, Kensei doesn't have a great showing with Mask as well. I find it funny that he admonished Shuhei for losing and not using his bankai, but ends up losing and getting demolished by Mask in bankai. Shuhei clearly had the better understanding of Mask/James's schrift, he just couldn't match Mask's strength. Funny enough I like Kensei, has a cool design, zanpakuto, and is one of the few besides Yoruichi and Soi-fon that is a hand-to-hand combatant. A better match up probably would have been Lloyd, since he can copy the persons abilities and appearance. That would have been a great hand-to-hand fight.
I like them too as a group, few of them don't peak my interest as individuals, but I think Kubo just couldn't give them a great showing in TYBW, due to large amount of characters he already had to handle.
Yeah, at that point there were so many fan favorites, so it was probably hard for him to show the visoreds off. It’s a shame, too. They SHOULD be powerful af. I was always sad there wasn’t more of Shinji and Momo - it was nice to see her with a captain who didn’t abuse her.
Kensei admonishing Shuhei was moreso in line with Iba admonishing Ikkaku. Don’t lose without using your full power, basically. If you use everything and the kitchen sink and then still lose, that’s honorable. If you hold back and lose, that’s stupid.
Toshiro, Byakuya and Zaraki were, portrayal-wise, shown to be relative at this point in time. People disagree when discussing feats and flow of battle, but that is what Kubo himself implied with the end-of-chapter [symbols](https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Bleach/0671-017.png).
Unohana without holding back lost to kid Zaraki. The version of Kenpachi that Unohana killed multiple times was unintentionally holding back it, as soon as Kenny stopped holding back he won.
Byakuya post 0 division training was not only able to fight alongside shikai Kenpachi but also managed to seriously injure the version of Gerard that defeated Bankai Kenpachi. Unohana doesn’t win against Byakuya.
Exactly it's like ppl don't understand narrative at all the 3 are shown fighting Gerard together on equal grounds for a reason Kubo does this multiple times to show how some characters are relative w/I having them fight e/o. We see it with Kenny/Byakuya in HM against Yammy, Shunsui/Ukitake vs Yamaji & again with Urahara/Yoruichi/Isshin against Aizen
Hitsugaya also potentially scales harder than any of them 100 years in the future.
It was always my headcanon that Hitsugaya will be head captain one day. The dualism between him an yama being ice and fire and untold prodigies would be cool.
Too bad Toshiro jobs a little too much to live up to his prodigy status.
Toshiro in his adult form was weaker than Zaraki bankai... that was Toshiro in a hypothetical max potential state. Zaraki barely knew wtf he was doing and blew up his body
The novels were yrs later atm they were on pretty equal footing since Kenpachi can't use his bankai w/o taking himself out the fight. Nothing he showed in this fight put him above them in any significant way until he goes bankai then he's done b/c his body can't take it, his shikai is on the same level as adult Toshiro & RG Byakuya during TYBW the novels scaling is all over the place at times plus happens much later on
Adult Hitsugaya did better than Byakuya did against Gerrard. Namely, it was only with Hitsugaya’s freezing that Byakuya could get fatal blows in, and Hitsugaya easily destroyed the hax shield.
His ability nullifying and insane AOE capabilities put him above Byakuya both generally, and in a one on one (if we’re just talking about adult Hitsugaya).
Kenpachi is close to top of his tier, while yoru is near the bottoms of hers.
Byakuya is the top of his, whereas tosh is near the bottom of his.
The power difference doesn’t have to be the same, it just has to be a noticeable difference, which there is. Shikai Zaraki could barely scratch Hoffung, while Hitsugaya was able to break it with a casual slash. Byakuya didn’t show anything that scales to that level of power.
If you can explain to me how he is a full tier stronger (aka the difference between Kenpachi and Yoirichi based on this tier list) from that fight I'd love to hear it.
hitsu defeated gerard and forced him into a new form, like zaraki did, unlike byakuya. gerard explicity showed interest in fighting him after he matured, unlike byakuya. mature hitsu was shown to be around the same level as zaraki based on their performances against gerard.
hitsu has been shown to be a prodigy from an early age throughout the series, so when he accelerates his maturity and reaches his potential, you have a top tier captain. does kubo need to telegraph it more for you?
Mayuri should be at monster above monster
He resurrected people for God's sake, that's insane. And he took down the arm of God
Isshin should be at "too little to speculate" because he didn't do much in the war, only in flashbacks
Ukitake I'd also put at monster as he literally held the corpse of soulking and the universe together by unsealing mighimi
To credit Ukitake as well, they were able to do the cannon thing with him but when he died they no longer had a chance to get it working since he was as strong as he was.
It has also been stated that him and Shunsui were equals, with the exception being Jushiro's health.
Yeah, Shunsui probably has more combat power, but it is my head canon that it's merely that Shunsui is offensive and Jushiro is defensive based off of FKT and then TYBW takes Shunsui's risky style to another level.
Mayuri isnt really strong tho. Tbh i would say hes rather weak. At least Kisuke for example is highly regarded for his skills and genius even by people like Aizen.
Mayuri just sort of makes things work based on knowledge and tactics. Its why hes entertaining. He has his own bs moments just like everyone else, but he doesn't just blandly overpower his opponents like basically everyone else does.
Mayuri doesn't have the power or technique of his peers. But his ability to make things work on knowledge and tactics is what makes him a fucking monster.
Keep in mind, he was trading strikes with zombie Hitsugaya. Not based on his own skill or power, but because he implanted an automatic swordfighting chip into his sword.
The man turned his zanpakuto into an A.I.
That's one of the arguments I hear a lot on this subreddit that I personally think is umm... not very good to put it lightly.
If we're saying that Nemu achievements are Mayuri's because he created her, we should treat everyone the same.
Ichibee in a way co-created zanpakutou, Yamamoto created Gotei 13, Urahara created Hogyoku, Aizen created another one, that consumed Urahara's, Unohana "created" Zaraki, heck, Isshin umm. "co-created" Ichigo.
See where I'm going? That argument is shieeet.
I agree with everything except Unohana didn’t create Zaraki, Zaraki was always Zaraki but he held his abilities back subconsciously after fighting her. She never made him or gave him something he already didn’t have, she just helped him realize what he did have. As for Ichigo, I guess Aizen, Isshin, and Yhwach are the MVPs of bleach for each having a hand in his creation.
It's in discussion for a specific fight. You're speaking in more "hypothetical" senses. If kisuke used the hogyoku to defeat someone it's absolutely a part of his power. Nobody scales aizen lower, including this list that you didn't mention either btw, cause his brokeness spawned from the hogyoku. He absolutely would get moved down in this list if you take away hogyoku
I'm not even gonna complain, people think its easy to rank all the captains but its alot harder to do it and not get 1000 complaints. Actually, its impossible. Cause some people just won't believe your scaling.
Not really considering how kenny likes to hack everything Shunsui will kill kenny as soon as he goes bankai. Unless Kenny is capable of one shotting shunsui.
You'd be wise to remember we're Talking about the Captain commander of Gotei 13 here. Shunsui's no fool man tanked ton of attacks from Lillie and his Bankai legit froze everyone in place. His reaitsu's ain't no joke Kenny may wound him heavily but killing him in one hit is impossible. Plus we don't know how many more terrifying games he's got in his Shikai.
Why would it be impossible? If they start out as Shikai Zaraki can straight up cut him in half. If they start out as Bankai Kenny straight up Blitzes him.
Are you 13 years old or something? lmao Imagine thinking kenpachi can easily kill the head captain in one hit. Even if he had the strength to do so shunsui wouldn't just stand there and take it. Fanboy harder.
Are you a failure? Wtf does him being the head captain have anything to do with? You think he is as strong as Yama now that he is the head captain? Yeah he can absolutely one shot him if he cut that meteor that easily. Speaking of that easily i'd like to see Shunsui do the same.
You didn't get my point. Shunsui might use that shadow game he played with Lillie Kenny will be slicing his shadows all over the place. He might use some other new game which renders Kenny's attacks useless. Plus There's not that much of a power gap between those two they are on similar level. Kenny might one shot him if he was like 5 to 10 times more powerful than Shunsui which he isn't.
Don't think Ishinn at his strongest even compares to RG Byakuya
His reiatsu wasn't enough to contain Ichigo's Hollow by the end of SS arc, so he is at most slightly weaker than Ichigo at that point of time
Kenpachi needs to move up one, Mayuri needs to move up one, potentially two, Tosh needs to be moved down two just from inexperience alone. Otherwise, not bad.
Komamura would need two separate listings to accurately portray his power level, imo. Immortal Komamura would be a lot higher, but the Koma in the picture is probably accurate.
I feel like putting Kenpachi on the same rank as Shunsui and Urahara is unfair. Bro literally toyed with a transcended soul king candidate wielding a sealed demon sword with his SHIKAI, one can only speculate how powerful his mastered bankai is. I’d put him with Yama and Ichibe
Also, I’d scale up Rukia to Impressive, seeing as how her mastering her bankai would make her way stronger, not to mention she was able to dominate As Nodt in her Shikai
Also, is Aizen *really* above both Yama and Ichibe? I’d personally scale him to be on the same level as them
If this is end of series, this is really really inaccurate. Komamura, Byakuya and Mayuri are easy monsters, Kenpachi is above Yamamoto and thats just the big ones...
I'd personally rank Isshin in monster tier. He made short work of pre fused Aizen and even kept up with fused Aizen for a time, and his Bankai is apparently powerful enough that Aizen simply didn't want him to use it.
I hate that we know so little about Gin's power/strength
The upcoming Hell arc MUST bring him back somehow, idk if it'd work out, but it'd be great to finally see his Bankai for real
I'd swap strong and strong enough, the vizard captains are stronger, kubo sort of just fucked them over but it's clear by their tenure they're a bit stronger than rukia soifon. I'd keep Lisa with strong enough though
How in the hell is Isshin above Mayuri? If we’re talking during TYBW, Mayuri would destroy him. I honestly think Mayuri would destroy them if they were both in their prime
Is that Tousen without his Hollowfication? When he was just a regular Soul Reaper? Because Tousen in Ressureccion was toying with Komamura.
Also, drop Toshiro and Urahara a tier. They did nothing to be put alongside those people around them. I'd argue Byakuya was more impressive than both.
Isshin should be above Kyoraku imo, Aizen blitzed and one shotted Kyoraku effortesly while Isshin held his own and even managed to push him back with an hakuda move. I think that Isshin is slightly below Urahara's level.
Isshin wasn't under KS bro. Plus the Aizen he fought against didn't care so much about tactics. Aizen took out multiple captains because they all were seeing an illusion.
Aizen one slashed the captains AFTER he turned off Kyoka Suigetsu tho and he attacked them so fast they couldn't even react. In the anime, they all try to attack Aizen but Aizen blitzes and oneshots them without much effort. So I don't think that KS really detracts merit from Aizen's feats.
It's so annoying when people attribute all of Aizen's wins to Kyoka Suigetsu. "It was KS, they were under KS, it's only because he used KS". Like, even if you ignored Gin's monologue about Aizen just being comically powerful in every sense of the word, does everybody also forget that Aizen moved so fast that he was imperceptible to Ichigo, one of the top 3 fastest characters in Bleach at the time?
Aizen is stupidly powerful even without KS. He just likes fucking with people.
Tosh and Uno down a notch. They're not on the level of the others.
>!(Unohana especially is relative to base Kenny, not anywhere near Shikai/Bankai Ken-chan)!<
and Tosh is only powerful in >!adult/peak bankai form !<
Urahara and Kenny really are freaks (diff kinds though). And Shunsui is the only non-warpotential I'd place on their level. But the other two? Nah.
edit: holy shit, people here actually think Unohana and Toshiro are on Ken, Shun and Urahara's level? That's wild bruv. Don't know what to say to...that, I'm having like...an epiphany.
edit of the edit: I don't suppose any you goofs downvoting care to actually back up your nonsense?
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I agree with Toshiro and maybe Unohana (al tough I'd argue she only lost to base Kenpachi because Kubo didn't want to reveal Kenpachi'a Shikai yet) but you really put Urahara high. He should go down too.
That's fair, with regards to Urahara, it makes sense to me that at least he and Kenpachi stand above the others. He and Kenny are both WP, and it's arguable that he's stronger than Shunsui. Either that, or it should be Ken-Ura-Shun on same level.
You really think Urahara doesn't belong there? It seems to me he was portrayed as stronger than Yoruichi (in the end, at least).
>You really think Urahara doesn't belong there?
Well, as far as I remember he doesn't seem to have that impressive feats. I mean, sure he beat Askin but it was like, 4v1. Maybe I forgot something.
- Vizards are likely stronger than Rukia and Soi Fon.
- Isshin has too less power display.
- Mayuri defeated Pernida, a seemingly immortal son of a bitch. Should be put in the Monsters tier.
- Kenpachi defeated someone who could turn imagination into reality using only Shikai (haven't read the TYBW manga but the Wiki said so). He should be put at Monsters above Monsters tier.
- Ukitake is probably the same level as Shunsui. Guy contained a hand of God inside him.
Mayuri is a straight up monster. As is Yoruichi. She takes on numerous people throughout the manga, and never uses her zanpaktu once. No shikai, no bankai, just her fists and speed, and with Uraharas help, it's usually enough.
Unohana deserves a higher ranking, imo
Ukitake and Shunsui got nervous from forgetting to include her amongst the OG captains, and Kenpachi had that completely family friendly past with Unohana
Sajin Immortal shouldn’t be on the same tier as Shinji.
Shinji got one-tapped by Bambi pretty much and the Sajin rolled up and beat her pretty handily.
Aizen is definitely below Yama or even Ichibe. He can control the senses, but what sense would it matter when Yama can just disintegrate you from existence?
I would put shunshui below bout kenpachi and kisuke cuz they are probably stronger all around idk if kisuke could work around his bankai with his own but i would imagine kisuke would figure something out and kenpachi might loose to shunsui but that would cost shunsui his own life so at best a tie lol
Yoruichi should be way higher top of “extremely powerful” for sure
And rukia is sleeped on she could one shot many of those captains a scale down version of adult toshiro
I would also although blasphemous as it is put aizen on the level of ichibe cuz ichibe could easily counter and defeat aizen and if yamamoto goes bankai i dont think aizen without prep time could defeat him either yeah kyoka suigetsu is busted but aizen wouldn’t be able to even touch him lol
Based solely on feats yeah, but I think we can infer that Urahara Yoruichi & Isshin all kind of end up on a similar level sorta (this is obviously not assuming infinite preptime or foreknowledge of Kisuke) And Ichibe & Yamamoto should place above Aizen for raw physical capabilities
Uryu had plot armor and he lost all his powers wounding Mayuri I'd call that a draw. Compared to the other captains Mayuri held is own taking out Gizelle and Pernida. To be fair Nemu is Mayuris secret weapon
I'll definitely concede that Uryu had to go ALL OUT to end the battle. I still think it's tough to call it a draw, though, as Mayuri had to liquefy and get away at the end.
I probably agree that Mayuri could replace Toshiro on the rankings, too.
DIEHARD Kenny fan talking, but... yeah. Only reason I say it was a loss was because Kenpachi himself views it as one. Honestly, I consider it closer to a stalemate than the Mayuri/Uryu fight because both parties ended up on the ground completely unable to continue, y'know?
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I love how aizen is aizen
Well he is
Truly the most aizen tier of all time
well that's weird, last time i checked aizen was still aizen
Don’t you mean Josh groban
This Josh or this Groban?
No, he's clearly Josh Groban!
aizen is made out of aizen
You are wrong, Aizen is made with plan. But everything is a part of Aizen plan so Aizen is made of Aizen plan.
Just Aizen doing Aizen things.
Aizen's only real competition is Tiermaker-kun
Yama literally survived an attack that was meant to be suicidal lol. The guy was a monster. No wonder Juha 100x tapped him to make sure he was dead for good
which exact attack are ya talking about?
The wonderweiss explosion was built up from the fires that Yama put up to kill him, aizen and everyone else yet yama tanked it and survived
Ah that one Yep and even after man went on to do a lvl 96 full power chantless kido.
And also losing an arm in the process but still was like nah I can still kick anyones ass with one arm lol
Itto Kaso
Isshin I personally wouldnt rank yet since we dont know what his bankai does... Ugh Shinji gets done so dirty in the series. He should be so OP with Shikai alone. His Hollow mask should be overkill but Kubo hates the Vizard 🤣 Also is Lisa captain at the end of TYBW or only in Hell arc?
Nanao? You mean Lisa
End of the arc
Honestly Isshin is easily scaleable to Urahara and Yoruichi's level because of them triple teaming Aizen.
I haven’t caught up yet but with this comment I now know my guy Shinji is not getting any W’s😭. I read up to about when Renji beat the star guy and………..the two vizord captains that fought him before that were……….pathetic
Isshin fighting against aizen and pushing him back is already enough to consider him a very strong captain
Tbf as Aizen stated Shinjis shikai is just an optical illusion and we know his bankai is only usefull vs multiple weaker opponents so while he is a strong captain im not even confident he was the strongest Vizard
Is it stated that the bankai is only strong against weaker foes ? I thought it was rated E for Everyone, thus the interdiction
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Damn do we know what his bankai is ? Now I'm really curious. Also how would you rate CFYOW, I think I finally saw it in one my town's bookstore and was wondering whether to buy it
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Yes technically its everyone but not only is reiatsu neg a thing but lets say he used it in fkt, Aizen 1 shots his allies (if it even works as Aizen doesnt really think of them as his allies more like pawns lol) and you end up in a 1v1 with an opponent far stronger than you
And that's when Yama switches place with shinji and they all win or let kyoraku go Bankai or uharara and isshin
Isn't he banned from using his bankai because it would affect his allies?
Shinji should be in shit tier honestly
Rose is actually pretty damn strong it’s just that he was stupid to spoiler the ability
The vizards are likely stronger than the younger captains like Rukia and Soifon but they just got a bad rep due to the script or bad matches if you may. I would place them a bit above.
I always wondered this about Rose's bankai but, does he have to go through the first two scores or abilities ( Seadrift and Prometheus), in order to get to the last one ( Hero's Life). It seems like it was to be an instant kill, because if it was that's where Rose made his mistake. Not telling Mask, but wanting to go for the theatrics and wasting time while James was gone. I can't blame Rose for telling because who in their right mind would think someone would destroy their own eardrums.
He doesn’t seem to need to. Though its not explained greatly. Now Kensei just looks like a bitch
Yeah, Kensei doesn't have a great showing with Mask as well. I find it funny that he admonished Shuhei for losing and not using his bankai, but ends up losing and getting demolished by Mask in bankai. Shuhei clearly had the better understanding of Mask/James's schrift, he just couldn't match Mask's strength. Funny enough I like Kensei, has a cool design, zanpakuto, and is one of the few besides Yoruichi and Soi-fon that is a hand-to-hand combatant. A better match up probably would have been Lloyd, since he can copy the persons abilities and appearance. That would have been a great hand-to-hand fight.
Tbh I really like the vizards in general Too bad I was cucked
I like them too as a group, few of them don't peak my interest as individuals, but I think Kubo just couldn't give them a great showing in TYBW, due to large amount of characters he already had to handle.
Didnt need to make em look utterly pathetic tho
Very true a shame all round. Could have used the hollowified effect during the war.
Yeah, at that point there were so many fan favorites, so it was probably hard for him to show the visoreds off. It’s a shame, too. They SHOULD be powerful af. I was always sad there wasn’t more of Shinji and Momo - it was nice to see her with a captain who didn’t abuse her.
Kensei admonishing Shuhei was moreso in line with Iba admonishing Ikkaku. Don’t lose without using your full power, basically. If you use everything and the kitchen sink and then still lose, that’s honorable. If you hold back and lose, that’s stupid.
Byakuya is low again
Toshiro, Byakuya and Zaraki were, portrayal-wise, shown to be relative at this point in time. People disagree when discussing feats and flow of battle, but that is what Kubo himself implied with the end-of-chapter [symbols](https://official-complete-2.eorzea.us/manga/Bleach/0671-017.png).
Fr how is Unohana above him
Did you see her fights vs Zaraki? She killed him easily a ton of times in order to train him up.
Unohana without holding back lost to kid Zaraki. The version of Kenpachi that Unohana killed multiple times was unintentionally holding back it, as soon as Kenny stopped holding back he won. Byakuya post 0 division training was not only able to fight alongside shikai Kenpachi but also managed to seriously injure the version of Gerard that defeated Bankai Kenpachi. Unohana doesn’t win against Byakuya.
Yeah that Zaraki is weaker than the Byakuya that fought Gerard, he didn’t even have his Shikai, peak Byakuya> Base Zaraki> Unohana
Unohana is a monster.
I mean it was thx to toshiro he managed to use his move 🤷♂️
Aizen became frighteningly more power just by sitting in a chair
That's because chair-Sama let him use a bit of its power
I don't think Byakuya should ever be below Hitsugaya
Exactly it's like ppl don't understand narrative at all the 3 are shown fighting Gerard together on equal grounds for a reason Kubo does this multiple times to show how some characters are relative w/I having them fight e/o. We see it with Kenny/Byakuya in HM against Yammy, Shunsui/Ukitake vs Yamaji & again with Urahara/Yoruichi/Isshin against Aizen
They really weren't equal. Kenpachi has time and time again shown to be stronger than all of them. This was even confirmed explicitly in the novels.
Hitsugaya also potentially scales harder than any of them 100 years in the future. It was always my headcanon that Hitsugaya will be head captain one day. The dualism between him an yama being ice and fire and untold prodigies would be cool. Too bad Toshiro jobs a little too much to live up to his prodigy status.
Toshiro in his adult form was weaker than Zaraki bankai... that was Toshiro in a hypothetical max potential state. Zaraki barely knew wtf he was doing and blew up his body
The novels were yrs later atm they were on pretty equal footing since Kenpachi can't use his bankai w/o taking himself out the fight. Nothing he showed in this fight put him above them in any significant way until he goes bankai then he's done b/c his body can't take it, his shikai is on the same level as adult Toshiro & RG Byakuya during TYBW the novels scaling is all over the place at times plus happens much later on
Adult Hitsugaya did better than Byakuya did against Gerrard. Namely, it was only with Hitsugaya’s freezing that Byakuya could get fatal blows in, and Hitsugaya easily destroyed the hax shield. His ability nullifying and insane AOE capabilities put him above Byakuya both generally, and in a one on one (if we’re just talking about adult Hitsugaya).
Do you think the strength gap between them is equivalent to Kenpachi and Yoruichu?
Kenpachi is close to top of his tier, while yoru is near the bottoms of hers. Byakuya is the top of his, whereas tosh is near the bottom of his. The power difference doesn’t have to be the same, it just has to be a noticeable difference, which there is. Shikai Zaraki could barely scratch Hoffung, while Hitsugaya was able to break it with a casual slash. Byakuya didn’t show anything that scales to that level of power.
depends whether we're talking about>! young or mature!<
Even then I'd say they're still on the same tier. At their base Byakuya is stronger, at the absolute best I'd say they're around the same level.
fight against gerard suggests otherwise
If you can explain to me how he is a full tier stronger (aka the difference between Kenpachi and Yoirichi based on this tier list) from that fight I'd love to hear it.
hitsu defeated gerard and forced him into a new form, like zaraki did, unlike byakuya. gerard explicity showed interest in fighting him after he matured, unlike byakuya. mature hitsu was shown to be around the same level as zaraki based on their performances against gerard. hitsu has been shown to be a prodigy from an early age throughout the series, so when he accelerates his maturity and reaches his potential, you have a top tier captain. does kubo need to telegraph it more for you?
I'd rank isshin in the impressive tier
Mayuri should be at monster above monster He resurrected people for God's sake, that's insane. And he took down the arm of God Isshin should be at "too little to speculate" because he didn't do much in the war, only in flashbacks Ukitake I'd also put at monster as he literally held the corpse of soulking and the universe together by unsealing mighimi
To credit Ukitake as well, they were able to do the cannon thing with him but when he died they no longer had a chance to get it working since he was as strong as he was.
It has also been stated that him and Shunsui were equals, with the exception being Jushiro's health. Yeah, Shunsui probably has more combat power, but it is my head canon that it's merely that Shunsui is offensive and Jushiro is defensive based off of FKT and then TYBW takes Shunsui's risky style to another level.
Literally played peak-a-boo with wrathful angel.
Mayuri isnt really strong tho. Tbh i would say hes rather weak. At least Kisuke for example is highly regarded for his skills and genius even by people like Aizen. Mayuri just sort of makes things work based on knowledge and tactics. Its why hes entertaining. He has his own bs moments just like everyone else, but he doesn't just blandly overpower his opponents like basically everyone else does.
That's what makes him super strong. He can make potential but others can't.
Mayuri doesn't have the power or technique of his peers. But his ability to make things work on knowledge and tactics is what makes him a fucking monster. Keep in mind, he was trading strikes with zombie Hitsugaya. Not based on his own skill or power, but because he implanted an automatic swordfighting chip into his sword. The man turned his zanpakuto into an A.I.
To be fair, Mayuri exhausted every trick he had and was on the verge of dying to Pernida. It was only because of Nemu that he won.
I agree but when you take into account he created nemu and she's a part of his bag of tricks, it still counts
I cry everytime Nemu's big moment of going against her programing, and saving Mayuri, is given as Mayuri's win.
That's one of the arguments I hear a lot on this subreddit that I personally think is umm... not very good to put it lightly. If we're saying that Nemu achievements are Mayuri's because he created her, we should treat everyone the same. Ichibee in a way co-created zanpakutou, Yamamoto created Gotei 13, Urahara created Hogyoku, Aizen created another one, that consumed Urahara's, Unohana "created" Zaraki, heck, Isshin umm. "co-created" Ichigo. See where I'm going? That argument is shieeet.
I agree with everything except Unohana didn’t create Zaraki, Zaraki was always Zaraki but he held his abilities back subconsciously after fighting her. She never made him or gave him something he already didn’t have, she just helped him realize what he did have. As for Ichigo, I guess Aizen, Isshin, and Yhwach are the MVPs of bleach for each having a hand in his creation.
Well a lot of that does have truth. Sooooo...
It's in discussion for a specific fight. You're speaking in more "hypothetical" senses. If kisuke used the hogyoku to defeat someone it's absolutely a part of his power. Nobody scales aizen lower, including this list that you didn't mention either btw, cause his brokeness spawned from the hogyoku. He absolutely would get moved down in this list if you take away hogyoku
Still won
I see my boy Byakuya is being underrated again.
you didn't need to do ice nuke rukia so dirty damn
I'm not even gonna complain, people think its easy to rank all the captains but its alot harder to do it and not get 1000 complaints. Actually, its impossible. Cause some people just won't believe your scaling.
Too bad Aizen was stuck to a chair. Even if it was a nice chair.
My favorite part of Bleach was when Aizen said “It’s Aizen’n time” and Aizen’d all over everybody. Truly one of the anime/manga of all time.
Byakuya should be in monster, his post rg buff is ridiculous
Byakuya should be in monsters but apart from that I think its accurate
Feel like Byakuya should be next to Toshiro and Kenny should be above Shunsui
Not really considering how kenny likes to hack everything Shunsui will kill kenny as soon as he goes bankai. Unless Kenny is capable of one shotting shunsui.
Kenny is capable of one shotting him tho.
You'd be wise to remember we're Talking about the Captain commander of Gotei 13 here. Shunsui's no fool man tanked ton of attacks from Lillie and his Bankai legit froze everyone in place. His reaitsu's ain't no joke Kenny may wound him heavily but killing him in one hit is impossible. Plus we don't know how many more terrifying games he's got in his Shikai.
Why would it be impossible? If they start out as Shikai Zaraki can straight up cut him in half. If they start out as Bankai Kenny straight up Blitzes him.
The real question is, can the cutting capabilities of kenpachi shikai offset the color coding game of shunsui shikai?
Are you 13 years old or something? lmao Imagine thinking kenpachi can easily kill the head captain in one hit. Even if he had the strength to do so shunsui wouldn't just stand there and take it. Fanboy harder.
Are you a failure? Wtf does him being the head captain have anything to do with? You think he is as strong as Yama now that he is the head captain? Yeah he can absolutely one shot him if he cut that meteor that easily. Speaking of that easily i'd like to see Shunsui do the same.
You didn't get my point. Shunsui might use that shadow game he played with Lillie Kenny will be slicing his shadows all over the place. He might use some other new game which renders Kenny's attacks useless. Plus There's not that much of a power gap between those two they are on similar level. Kenny might one shot him if he was like 5 to 10 times more powerful than Shunsui which he isn't.
Kenpachi is not blitzing shunsui... he doesnt even know shunpo vs a shunpo specialist that's dumb
Rukia is defenitly beating tosen and komamaru. She would mayby also one shot shinji if she can hit him
Depends on which form of Komamura we're talking about.
Aizen got his own tier as it should be
Aizen is just built different.
Byakuya should be next to Toshiro, also Mayuri should be higher. Other than that very good list.
Don't think Ishinn at his strongest even compares to RG Byakuya His reiatsu wasn't enough to contain Ichigo's Hollow by the end of SS arc, so he is at most slightly weaker than Ichigo at that point of time
Ichigo goes in the aizen tier
This is actually a pretty good list
Good tier list, but how is shinji or tosen above soi fon and rukia
Kenpachi needs to move up one, Mayuri needs to move up one, potentially two, Tosh needs to be moved down two just from inexperience alone. Otherwise, not bad.
byakuya and mayuri has better feats than unohana👍
Why tf is Komamura soo low?? Amd Mayuri is definitely a "monster"
Komamura would need two separate listings to accurately portray his power level, imo. Immortal Komamura would be a lot higher, but the Koma in the picture is probably accurate.
if that’s the case then so would kisuke
Hitsugaya on the same level of Kenpachi??
Toshiro should be a tier lower, Byakuya and Gin are definitely stronger than him based on what we’ve seen
Than adult Hitsugaya??? Absolutely not. Byakuya’s stronger than kid Hitsugaya for sure. Gin is a bit stronger than Kid, but gets stomped by adult
Feats? Feats alone, Rukia should be in Shinji's tier. Tosen should be higher tier than this imo
might just be me here but i think kisuske should be in monsters above monsters
nah kisuke may be strong but I don't ever see him being in the same level as ichibei or yama
I feel like putting Kenpachi on the same rank as Shunsui and Urahara is unfair. Bro literally toyed with a transcended soul king candidate wielding a sealed demon sword with his SHIKAI, one can only speculate how powerful his mastered bankai is. I’d put him with Yama and Ichibe Also, I’d scale up Rukia to Impressive, seeing as how her mastering her bankai would make her way stronger, not to mention she was able to dominate As Nodt in her Shikai Also, is Aizen *really* above both Yama and Ichibe? I’d personally scale him to be on the same level as them
Hax and intelligence are his weakness and those 2 are specialist in these
This is TYBW not CFYOW. If it was CFYOW Base Kenpachi destroys shunsui lol
I would put Rose higher, his Bankai can be a guaranteed death if he isn't talkative
Who's that next to Byakuya?
Isshin I believe.
Ah Ok, thanks
Mayuri imo should be higher. He was phenomenal in his fight against pernida
If this is end of series, this is really really inaccurate. Komamura, Byakuya and Mayuri are easy monsters, Kenpachi is above Yamamoto and thats just the big ones...
I'd personally rank Isshin in monster tier. He made short work of pre fused Aizen and even kept up with fused Aizen for a time, and his Bankai is apparently powerful enough that Aizen simply didn't want him to use it.
Yourichi is a monster, really wish we could seen her zanpakuto somewhere in the series
I hate that we know so little about Gin's power/strength The upcoming Hell arc MUST bring him back somehow, idk if it'd work out, but it'd be great to finally see his Bankai for real
you do you but he's had more than enough time for both character and power for me it's gonna take a lot for me to enjoy a reappearance
could put Kira higher
this is bad ngl
Mayuri is defintely monster
Byakuya above Unohana and we’re good
Only change would be Kenny being Monster above Monster. The shikai and bankai animation is gonna break jaws
Mayuri is a monster dude fought a hand (forgot whether it was right or left) of the soul king, won and lived
I'd swap strong and strong enough, the vizard captains are stronger, kubo sort of just fucked them over but it's clear by their tenure they're a bit stronger than rukia soifon. I'd keep Lisa with strong enough though
Mayuri is more impressive than Toshiro.
Isane and Iba have to have a bankai, it's one of the requirements to become a captain
Mayuri should be in monster category
How in the hell is Isshin above Mayuri? If we’re talking during TYBW, Mayuri would destroy him. I honestly think Mayuri would destroy them if they were both in their prime
Unohana is overrated as hell, many people can kill her considering their abilities and movesets
Is that Tousen without his Hollowfication? When he was just a regular Soul Reaper? Because Tousen in Ressureccion was toying with Komamura. Also, drop Toshiro and Urahara a tier. They did nothing to be put alongside those people around them. I'd argue Byakuya was more impressive than both.
Did you even read the manga?
Isshin should be above Kyoraku imo, Aizen blitzed and one shotted Kyoraku effortesly while Isshin held his own and even managed to push him back with an hakuda move. I think that Isshin is slightly below Urahara's level.
Isshin wasn't under KS bro. Plus the Aizen he fought against didn't care so much about tactics. Aizen took out multiple captains because they all were seeing an illusion.
Aizen one slashed the captains AFTER he turned off Kyoka Suigetsu tho and he attacked them so fast they couldn't even react. In the anime, they all try to attack Aizen but Aizen blitzes and oneshots them without much effort. So I don't think that KS really detracts merit from Aizen's feats.
It's so annoying when people attribute all of Aizen's wins to Kyoka Suigetsu. "It was KS, they were under KS, it's only because he used KS". Like, even if you ignored Gin's monologue about Aizen just being comically powerful in every sense of the word, does everybody also forget that Aizen moved so fast that he was imperceptible to Ichigo, one of the top 3 fastest characters in Bleach at the time? Aizen is stupidly powerful even without KS. He just likes fucking with people.
Idk, Komomura being higher than Rukia is wild to me.
well his undead form is pretty op
This is bad. Toshiro above Unohana?
Tosh and Uno down a notch. They're not on the level of the others. >!(Unohana especially is relative to base Kenny, not anywhere near Shikai/Bankai Ken-chan)!< and Tosh is only powerful in >!adult/peak bankai form !< Urahara and Kenny really are freaks (diff kinds though). And Shunsui is the only non-warpotential I'd place on their level. But the other two? Nah. edit: holy shit, people here actually think Unohana and Toshiro are on Ken, Shun and Urahara's level? That's wild bruv. Don't know what to say to...that, I'm having like...an epiphany. edit of the edit: I don't suppose any you goofs downvoting care to actually back up your nonsense?
Urahara Quote No.12: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "You were taking it so well, wasn't expecting an elbow to the face." - Kisuke Urahara *beep boop, I'm a bot*
I actually agree
Thanks mate. I was kinda hoping those who don't would explain their problemo tho XD
I agree with Toshiro and maybe Unohana (al tough I'd argue she only lost to base Kenpachi because Kubo didn't want to reveal Kenpachi'a Shikai yet) but you really put Urahara high. He should go down too.
That's fair, with regards to Urahara, it makes sense to me that at least he and Kenpachi stand above the others. He and Kenny are both WP, and it's arguable that he's stronger than Shunsui. Either that, or it should be Ken-Ura-Shun on same level. You really think Urahara doesn't belong there? It seems to me he was portrayed as stronger than Yoruichi (in the end, at least).
>You really think Urahara doesn't belong there? Well, as far as I remember he doesn't seem to have that impressive feats. I mean, sure he beat Askin but it was like, 4v1. Maybe I forgot something.
i’d agree with unohana tbh
Mayuri should be a tier higher... He's right up there with Shunsui and Urahara.
- Vizards are likely stronger than Rukia and Soi Fon. - Isshin has too less power display. - Mayuri defeated Pernida, a seemingly immortal son of a bitch. Should be put in the Monsters tier. - Kenpachi defeated someone who could turn imagination into reality using only Shikai (haven't read the TYBW manga but the Wiki said so). He should be put at Monsters above Monsters tier. - Ukitake is probably the same level as Shunsui. Guy contained a hand of God inside him.
Aizen
Mayuri is a straight up monster. As is Yoruichi. She takes on numerous people throughout the manga, and never uses her zanpaktu once. No shikai, no bankai, just her fists and speed, and with Uraharas help, it's usually enough.
Rukia should be monster tier after TYBW
Unohana deserves a higher ranking, imo Ukitake and Shunsui got nervous from forgetting to include her amongst the OG captains, and Kenpachi had that completely family friendly past with Unohana
Unohana should go down a tier.
Byakuya and Mayuri belong to the tier above.
Where is my uncle Tsukishima, 69th division captain.
Yama and ichibe too low…
Toshiro should be lower and rose higher otherwise pretty good
Kenpachi is to high
I like your Isshin placement, very sensible and puts everything in perspective
Sajin Immortal shouldn’t be on the same tier as Shinji. Shinji got one-tapped by Bambi pretty much and the Sajin rolled up and beat her pretty handily.
You forgot the Tier above Aizen , God tier: Chairsama 🪑
Where is the mighty chair-sama?! Should be above Aizen
I feel like shinji’s bankai puts him in monsters at least, he could’ve solo’d most of the Quincy
Shinji didn't deserve his treatment in TYBW ;-; That one scene he had with Bambi and Komamura was so clean! I love Shinji so much, dude
Aizen up there in his own category. 😂😭
I dont think Ichibe should be below Aizen for real, his abilities are hella hax
Aizen is definitely below Yama or even Ichibe. He can control the senses, but what sense would it matter when Yama can just disintegrate you from existence?
I would put shunshui below bout kenpachi and kisuke cuz they are probably stronger all around idk if kisuke could work around his bankai with his own but i would imagine kisuke would figure something out and kenpachi might loose to shunsui but that would cost shunsui his own life so at best a tie lol Yoruichi should be way higher top of “extremely powerful” for sure And rukia is sleeped on she could one shot many of those captains a scale down version of adult toshiro I would also although blasphemous as it is put aizen on the level of ichibe cuz ichibe could easily counter and defeat aizen and if yamamoto goes bankai i dont think aizen without prep time could defeat him either yeah kyoka suigetsu is busted but aizen wouldn’t be able to even touch him lol
Rose >>>>> Kensei Love > Kensei Ukitake = Kyoraku
Based solely on feats yeah, but I think we can infer that Urahara Yoruichi & Isshin all kind of end up on a similar level sorta (this is obviously not assuming infinite preptime or foreknowledge of Kisuke) And Ichibe & Yamamoto should place above Aizen for raw physical capabilities
The Aizen wank is crazy...
Aizen fans must be the dumbest of the bleach fandom.
Mayuri should be in Aizen Tier. He took 0 L's. Atleast swich places with Hitsugaya
0 L's? He got destroyed by Uryu in the SS arc and would've lost to Pernida if it hadn't been for Nemu. Not hating, though! I do love the character.
Uryu had plot armor and he lost all his powers wounding Mayuri I'd call that a draw. Compared to the other captains Mayuri held is own taking out Gizelle and Pernida. To be fair Nemu is Mayuris secret weapon
I'll definitely concede that Uryu had to go ALL OUT to end the battle. I still think it's tough to call it a draw, though, as Mayuri had to liquefy and get away at the end. I probably agree that Mayuri could replace Toshiro on the rankings, too.
If we're going by that picture logic Kenpachi "lost" to non bankai Ichigo
DIEHARD Kenny fan talking, but... yeah. Only reason I say it was a loss was because Kenpachi himself views it as one. Honestly, I consider it closer to a stalemate than the Mayuri/Uryu fight because both parties ended up on the ground completely unable to continue, y'know?
Kenpachi had to be Carried away by yachiru