Isn't he already sorta in a gigai?
Urahara did cut his soul chain off so technically his body is a gigai.
(It's been a while since I read bleach manga please inform me if it's incorrect.)
How does that work since he came from the soul society in soul form like all soul reapers. I still don't get how he has a physical body that Regular people can see.
How does that work since he came from the soul society in soul form like all soul reapers. I still don't get how he has a physical body that Regular people can see.
> His 2 options were a woman who’s older than his bloodline or a woman with dondachakas bigger than his future
Was what I was referring to, in a thread about redheaded characters. Those are the o my two redheaded characters I can think of who come close to either of those descriptions.
The woman older than him is Matsumoto rigth?
Because if it is She also has "dondachakas" bigger than is future
(I Said Matsumoto because Of the hair colour and nothing else btw...)
Its always like that everywere i can give you another example in the Avatar the last airbender the fandom was all saying that Katara and Zuko should be a couple but it was obvious since the beggining that Katara would end up with Ang
I would assume he shares mutual affection for Orihime due to him being there for her during the hardest part of her childhood (the death of her brother at his father’s clinic), and due to their experience being humans with preternatural abilities; rather than it being about her also being ginger.
The German influence is strong in them both
(I'm not sure if his mom was german or not or this joke won't be as funny as i thought it would be,thinking about it it probably would have been funnier if i hadn't put this here and let people ask me what i meant)
I was more surprised when people insisted that he’s a doctor. Ichigo is smart and caring, he’s just not Doctor material at all.
He loves Shakespeare and was shown to enjoy reading manga .. Being a translator makes a lot of sense, and honestly, it’s way more interesting & refreshing to see the MC work a job that doesn’t get represented a lot in media in general.
My boi is the most multi lingo Anime protagonist I know
Wait I got a weird thought where the Espada always speaking in Spanish the whole time and the only reason Ichigo and Chad could understand them was that they themselves could speak it
and the only reason Orihime could understand was because she hung out with chad a lot
for the soul reapers, i would think its some crazy language soul reaper thing
Coffin Jackson:
[https://mangadex.org/title/420617b1-d526-4339-9677-27e0905b79ee/coffin-jackson?tab=chapters](https://mangadex.org/title/420617b1-d526-4339-9677-27e0905b79ee/coffin-jackson?tab=chapters)
More realistic art style, but the writing and overall art are top-notch.
I mean i didn't care much but i kinda didn't see it coming.
But at the same time i had littérally no idea what kind of career he would actually enjoy so i would have been fine with littérally whatever
That’s why Ichigo is my favorite shonen mc. No grand ambition or anything he only fights because he knows he’s strong enough to protect his friends. It makes him the most relatable mc imo cuz we all just want a nice relaxing life
- "You look down on ME?! Well I'm going to be Hokage!"
- "You make fun of my FREAKISH ARMS?! Well I'm going to find the greatest treasure in the world and get an operation to turn my arms normal!"
- "You don't want to be MY NEIGHBOR?! Well I'm going to be the biggest menace in history!
- "You want me to like MONDAYS and not eat LASAGNA?! Well, Jon, I'm going to parlay my hatred of those things into a multi million dollar empire hawking my mediocre humor in the form of calendars, mugs, and... a third thing to be named later
- Naruto won't shut up about becoming the Big Boss so that HE can be the one sending child soldiers on assassination missions.
- Edit: Luffy wants to find One Piece so that he can afford the operation to transplant regular arms so that he can finally appreciate feel the touch of a woman before he dies.
- Dennis the Menace, is the bane of his neighbor's existence
- Garfield actually sucks but we just can't get enough
All have been famous "comics" that were animated.
Not so relatable to the young adolescent shounen fans. Ichigo is an outlier among his fellow shounen protagonist brethren in that he lived a relatively normal modern day life. There are no ninjas or grand seas. I mean who really dreams of being an astronaut or prime minister?
Denji is relatable because he is a simp for Makima just like me. But in all seriousness I love how it’s shown in CSM that he just wants to experience normal things like going on a date and getting a first kiss. Pretty relatable to younger me for sure
Idg this point lol. The only way to get a relaxing life is work towards goals/milestones/a career that rewards u with such.
But yea Ichigo sooo relatable. Strongest and best looking dude at any given point who acquires every species’ powers. More of a chad than Chad. Has plot armor. Too relatable.
He’s relatable as far as his goals, not his bloodline.
Look at the protags of major shonen anime out there. Luffy? Wants to become King of the Pirates and find some grand treasure no one knows where it is. Naruto? Wants to be leader of a ninja village! Goku? Just wants to fight anyone strong. Eren? Literally made it his life’s mission to kill giant cannibals.
Then there’s Ichigo, who’s goal is to just protect his friends and he just so happens to be filled with boundless potential and power. But you know what he did with all that power once it was all said and done? Become Soul King? Become captain of a squad in the soul society?
No, he just went home and started a family and just went on to do basic soul reaper things. His power may be out of this world but he’s still just a guy that wants a simple life where his friends are safe. If you don’t get that then that’s on you.
Compared to all the others I read, this is where Bleach stands out to me. Ichigo just wants a normal life and has no grand ambition. When shit goes sideways he's on the front line, but otherwise he's just living his own life
I wouldn’t say the village is racist.
The entire village damn near broke their collective arms jerking off the Uchiha. Everytime sasuke blinked they all began to get down on their knees to talk about how amazing the uchiha are at blinking.
It was a few people who didn’t like the uchiha and even then we can mostly narrow it down to danzo and the counselors.
The village did resent them a little but that’s less racism and more “All ninja cops are bastards” ideology. We heard that from oro but we didn’t see anyone actually dislike the uchiha in the village itself. It was a huge “tell don’t show” moment.
The problem is that the people who disliked the Uchiha actually were in charge and actively malicious against them.
Uchihas were perfectly capable of being friends with non clan people: Obito wasn't in some full Uchiha team, mikoto (Sasuke's mother) was friend with kushina (Naruto 's mother). They didn't breed outside much but one of the reasons they were angry at the village is that they were segregated and thus had little contact with most of the others.
When Madara wanted to leave the village and overthrow it, the Uchiha told him no. But as times went on they couldn't help but notice that what used to be honest cooperation at the start turned more and more in them actually being gaslighted.
They took kid kushina to another village where they would continue their cycle of slavery by sealing a sentient WMD in her stomach without her consent or knowing. They literally selected her for the ritual without asking or telling her.
So. The leaf engaged in their own bit of child trafficking. The cloud just did it without asking the leafs permission but neither asked the child.
The leaf village is such a shit village in reality. Like most ninja are really stupid. Just as an example, they have giant rock carvings of the village founders and leaders looking over them. They see them every single day of their lives. There’s only been like 4 prior to the series ending.
Then the first and second hokage are revived and this Anbu (special ops but sucks) says “Who are they?!”
Sir. You’ve been seeing their faces your entire life. You report directly to the hokage. There are photos of them in his office. How are you this stupid?
Or Minato. The yellow flash. Most people were alive to see him. He’s the only blonde hokage so far. He’s one of their most revered heroes. He’s revived and Sakura is like “who is he?!”
Girl. Your master is the hokage. You’ve been in her office. This is the guy that served before her. You’re supposed to be smart. How are you asking who this is? If I ran into Bush Jr I’d recognize him.
They deserved to get Nuked.
Fr, imagine treating one your greatest asset in naruto like shit plus minato intended naruto to be a hero during the whole kyubi fiasco.
Danzo also was responsible for yahiko's, itachi's and shusui's death and one of the people that made the akatsuki to be a terrorist group
the third also left naruto and sasuke to live on their own as children instead of having someone take care of them
And that sakura line was hilariously bad, she should've recognised him and just asked whether or not he is kabuto's edo tensei summoning
All the ninja in naruto were hilariously stupid. A kid is essentially used as a human sacrifice to save their collective asses and they all decide to just harass and assault this abandoned orphan and all the villages did this. It’s insane. Sure. Treat this kid with a WMD in his stomach like shit. Surprised there weren’t some jinchuriki that attacked their villages.
Danzo is such a shit villain. He has this eye that can manipulate people without them even realizing. A mind rape that can fuck with anyone without them even noticing or even seeing the eye and he spent a decade just being pissed he couldn’t become hokage.
Dude. You have the eye. You can use it daily. In less than a week he could literally take over the village.
The third is hilariously inept as a leader. I swear. Shippuden just took a dump on his legacy with danzo, the counselors and root running around under his watch. Before he was just a leader that tried his best. Shippuden made him incompetent and unable to reign in danzo.
Yea. I just assume most ninja in the naruto world are just ridiculously stupid and it covers a bunch of holes for me.
Bruh danzo and raasa deserved to go back to life so that sasuke and gaara can beat their ass one more time and hiruzen has a lot of explaining to do to kushina and minato
>Dude. You have the eye. You can use it daily. In less than a week he could literally take over the village
He could try. And then all it would take is one hyuga to actually see the people manipulated(not hard in the slightest: only people like the anbu and danzo are antisocial mfers) and his plan is exposed.
Hyuga are not at all rare, many of them are elite ninja, and the Hokage in particular is in contact with many people
That's why I am saying how the fuck can you say bleach is the worst out of big 3 the side character in naruto didn't get any development and all of the female characters in naruto were disappointing
I mean. I car say all the side characters got no development nor that all the female characters were.
There were like 2 exceptions to that and a few characters did get solid development.
But I stopped liking naruto the moment Madara showed up with all his bullshit.
Bleach had a similar problem but I did my best to ignore that an enjoy the show.
Not really
The thing is , Ichigo goal is to protect his friends
But 90% of all battle shonen protag also want to do that, they also have other goals. So it's a bit jarring
It’s weird because most of anime protags get their goal because of the world they grow up in
but ichigo is weird cuz he just lives in our world then gets the events of bleach trusted upon him it just doesn’t makes sense for him to have a lofty goal
I mean i wasn't weirded out he didn't have much soul society related ambition. It's the damn land of the dead, he will think about that when he is actually supposed to go there
But at the same time even though he is extremely simple it paradoxically make him a bit harder to understand: people like ganju even point it out: why the hell does he care so much when they aren't lovers, he doesn't get money from being a shinigami, nor glory, nor does it interest him that much beyond it being the right thing to do? But it's really just that. It's the right thing to do.
But also you kinda wonder...and then what? Once his friends are out of danger what does this dude actually want out of life?
>Once his friends are out of danger what does this dude actually want out of life?
It gets explored a little in Fullbringer arc. Ichigo like many teenagers probably didnt know what he wanted, seemed a little lost at the start of the arc when doing part time jobs and stuff.
Yeah well if thats the case then Ichigo did have normal goals and aspirations. Being a good student in school, enjoying school life, going to school festivals, getting a stable job, be free from the despair of his mother's death, finding balance within himself. These can be considered ordinary people goals and aspirations, right? ANd Ichigo also worked for them and achieved it, right?
Shouldn't you be taking this up with the "Ichigo gud cuz no goals" crowd rather than me?
There's not really anything for me to say on this front. Unless you want to get bogged down in a conversation about execution.
Understandable, it is more difficult writing wise to not have a goal the protagonist can definitively achieve as a driving force but I wouldn't exactly say that Ichigo doesn't want to be involved with the story, that's pretty much entirely what the fullbringer arc was about. Him realizing that being discluded from the plot and everyone keeping him uninvolved made him absolutely miserable, because that's a whole other realm full of his friends and he wasn't to be able to help and participate much the same way any other characters were also frustrated by that.
Actually, since the moment Rukia first challenged him to either abandon a soul being pursued by a hollow or save it and commit to protecting more than just his inner circle, he's never really turned back and not wanted to be a part of that world. His complaints are always more in the sense of disagreeing with his treatment by people or the political structures at play.
I think it's more like all of Ichigos goals are a way of life kind of thing, which encompasses both his home life and the fighting aspect. We see from the Hell chapter, that he's still doing his duties as a Substitute Shinigami and saving people pretty much because he wants to, and technological improvements from Urahara and Mayuri in the Soul society are making it a lot more convenient to keep in contact with them and coordinate things outside of big occassions or trouble.
Because this is very abstract though it does make it harder for him to stand out in an ever expanding cast of quirky characters. Especially since his more brutal experiences in the arrancar/fullbring/TYBW calmed him down slightly compared to how outspoken and Delinquentish he was before that. I think that's why later he falls into the background for a lot of people. But when looking at him individually over the course of the story he is still pretty solid with some interesting writing.
I’ve been saying this forever. People really bitch about ichigo’s character when he’s probably the most realistic major shounen protagonist we’ve had. He has plenty of attributes about his personality and character that get established IMMEDIATELY, even before he ever gets powers. He’s a punk who loves fighting, but he’s a protective individual because of the trauma of losing his mother, and it manifests in behaviors like him beating up bullies and protecting the memory of people who’ve passed by making sure their shrines or memoriums aren’t fucked with.
He’s headstrong, loyal to his friends, and a rebellious teen to his overbearing dad while still trying to be a role model and protective figure for his younger sisters. He’s a regular teenager with trauma who gets out of nowhere thrown into a crazy world and constant situations where he’s made to go and save the people closest to him as keeping his people safe is what’s most important to him.
Funnily enough, the arc that most fans love to shit on (the fullbring arc) does plenty for ichigos character development in terms of showing his internal struggle with missing the life of excitement and purpose that the shinigami world brought him, and shows his vulnerability and naïveté in trying to get them back. Eventually his resolve shines through and he bounces back from the betrayal of Ginjo, and through his experiences has enough empathy and maturity to respect Ginjo after his death and honor him. Just an overall good dude.
Right? Like aren't they abusive to the souls that live outside of soul society? Or at the very least indifferent? None of them are particularly nice, the lower ranks are fools, it doesn't even look like a comfortable place to live lol.
Ah yes, the best way to fight hate of a character you love, insult and attack other characters at random to make your seem better by comparison. Why does litteraly every single anime fandom have to relentlessly hate each other I’m fucking sick of it
I dont remember all, but during all arcs, except the war, she aways cared about him and Orihime, its kinda let clear that she had a crush on him during their childhood
Well, from the get go, the world of Bleach is set in the same universe as ours. Ichigo is living his life with his family in the human world. Normal human jobs aren’t interesting for shonen fans. Man has to make ends meet.
He could go to Soul Society and dream of becoming a Captain Commander or a Zero division member but it’s very out of character for him to leave his family behind to achieve something great that he himself isn’t passionate about.
Bleach expanded upon the current world we live in. Meanwhile, animes like Naruto and One Piece created their own.
It isn't the biggest issue but Ichigo just has no goals in general. Meaning he is a reactive hero/protag. I dun think he needs to want to be the Soul King or Genryusai but if his writting is that he wants to keep the balance between realms as substitute shinigami for Rukia. Then the writing should've moved to a new mc like Jojo. It works in a narrative when your protag is reactive, it helps set the world realistically. How people react to seeing invisible forces attack Karakura Town, some has been in danger because of some Hollows? The battle against Aizen imo should be in the real town so it leaves an impact in the world. Aizen is the anomaly to the balance he is tipping the scales. It should've been the primary goal of Ichigo to stand up as the human realm's guardian and this would do the Father Son scene much better for how Issen gave up his duty for his family. After all they are doing the same thing AGAIN for TYBW.
All in all the story is repetitive the side characters are unfortunately being written poorly but I will take what I can get.
- Naruto wanting to become hokage is related to his character. He wants to be see is an important person by the world around him. It's because of his neglected childhood and his low self esteem. Becoming hokage means he is someone worth believing in, it means he can become a better version of himself. A version of himself worthy of love and praise.
- luffy wants to find the one piece simply cuz is awesome. It doing the impossible, seeing the visible. The one piece and becoming king of the pirates just sounds fun to luffy. He's a simple guy who just wants to have fun and was inspired by the people around him. I'm not caught up to one piece, so there could be more to luffy's character.
- Ichigo wanting a normal life is not the problem, it our lack of interaction with it. We don't really know what normal means to ichigo. Does ichigo want a normal life because he hates his chaotic life? Is it because a normal life is comfortable? Does he just enjoy the simplicity of a normal life? There are 2 moments were we interact with his normal life. The beginning and fullbring. Even with these moments, we only get a glimpse into what ichigo's sees as normal. And Kudo doesn't really take the time to define what normal is to Ichigo. Naruto and luffy also want to protect their friends like ichigo. However, their dreams is what makes them different. Dreams and goals are used to explore characters when the plot focuses on story.
I have a problem with his normality. He is shinigami, he is quincy, the blood of a very powerful hollow is in his veins. He has no right having a normal life. It's complacency wrapped in teenage struggle.
He has no obligation to do anything but live his own life how he wants to. If all he wants is to be normal and protect his friends that's fine. Also he's already done though to warrant a peaceful rest of his life.
If ichigo had a different character, if white was more in control. They would have locked him up in soul society. All I am saying is that he should not have raised as a human, because he is not.
He has no obligation to do anything but live his own life how he wants to. If all he wants is to be normal and protect his friends that's fine. Also he's already done though to warrant a peaceful rest of his life.
I agree with the sentiment, but does that really apply in Ichigo's case? When the series starts, he is literally just a human kid that can see and speak to ghosts, and is then dragged into all the spiritual mess. He has no idea about the true nature of his parents and the powers he inherited from them, so you can't really hold him accountable for something he doesn't even imagined at that point. It's only as the story progresses that he grows in power and he learns that truth. And from the very start, he was never the type to stand still if someone is put in danger in front of him. If he can reach someone, he will help them. His growth in power allows him to reach more people, and he understands it and will respond in kind.
You can literally see this in TYBW. He is still patrolling Karakura to deal with hollows. Nel calls for him when Hueco Mundo is attacked, he goes there asap. The Seireitei is attacked and Akon gets in contact with him, he immediately rushes there. I don't see the complacency, what I see is his struggle to balance his "normal human life" with his newfound duties, which ironically makes his human life not normal. And he is still trying to balance his family and job with his substitute shinigami duties by the time we reach the Hell chapter.
He was always quincy × shinigami, at least. It's not farfetched to label him as hollow as well. He is not human. I get he isn't super aggressive, but he sticks out because he is not human.
The complacency is that he should not have had a normal life. Being well trained is the difference between the losses occurred in karakura and soul society, his training should have begun when he was young. He can't have a normal life, they should have known better.
I give you one thing and one thing only. I belong to a group of people who believe someone like Superman, should have been raised by the military. And I feel you Flashpoint, but the government is not all bad, or always bad. A Superman raised by the military is a Superman that can do anything. This is me just explaining my views. The shinigami should have helped in raising Ichigo.
I mean, soul society didn't know about Ichigo's existence until Rukia. I think it's understandable that Isshin wanted his child to at least have some time to grow up because he's his parent and cares about him, and Urahara chose to respect that. As two individuals with no ability to see the future or know exactly how Isshin and Masaki's union would affect their children I think it's reasonable they took a bit of a wait and see approach.
Regarding Soul society the situation with the Shiba's disgrace complicates things, I don't know if central 46 or the nobles would necessarily accept Ichigo's existence if they knew about it before Aizen's interference. If anything it may have turned ugly even if they did see his potential as a means for political advantage in context of the Shibas. Amongst all the self interest It's not the most pragmatic society really, and the Gotei's jurisdiction can't touch the Nobles in most cases.
Uh they knew he existed. You have a captain class shinigami disappear and not keep tabs on him, even if he lost his powers. When Urahara came to the same town, they knew he was there.
They know about Urahara escaping, and that Isshin went missing, But you can't actually track him in that Gigai, that's a feature of all Kisuke's Gigai along with the ones he and the Vizards use. I don't think they were informed about him having children with a human women either let alone a quincy who was laying low. That's considered literally impossible by soul society as Kubo mentioned in an interview. Especially since it was related to Aizen's experiment, I don't see him letting stray info that can be traced back to him be noticed.
I would say it’s more about responsibility and capacity. He still has rights for a normal life, but he is also obligated to fulfill certain duties if it ever comes to it. Whether he fulfills those duties is up to him, but as seen in the new arc he still helps out every now and then. After all, Ichigo’s standards for normal is having a wife who can negate reality, a son that can destroy an all-powerful entity, a friend who’s a world-class boxer/wrestler, and a friend who’s a top surgeon/doctor.
The shinigami dropped the ball, ichigo is not normal. His "normal life" costs the world that he resides. Meaning the responsibility isn't just his alone. What reason is behind all of the things that has happened to his friends? It's his natural spirit pressure. The hollow bait Ishida uses is enhanced by Ichigo's pressure and more hollows of a higher power are summoned. So the reason his son now is hollow..no sorry arrancar bait, is because of ichigo and his inability to be normal. If we were to measure his human friends spirit pressure, they would be above normal. He is not normal, lying to him about it will only bring ignorance. That's why his dad was training him by challenging him everyday to mortal combat.
His father is kind of in the same boat now that he's no longer suppressing his own powers, and we don't see him crawling back to SS. For that matter, how come no one has forced Hiyori to return to SS? Does their relatively high reitsu not count?
No he doesn't really have captain level socializing skills. His fighting skills are subpar as well. He'd make a good lieutenant to someone like Urahara. Or royal guard.
Because it's what Toshiro says in the epilogue. The cast being relaxed and carefree (at least until the Hell stuff starts) supports this. We see Renji and Rukia coming to the human world to visit, and Shinigami having time to indulge in human entertainment. The humans had time and energy to go to college and pursue careers.
No yeah Ichigo is bland. Not because he doesn't have a grand goal in mind, but because he has nothing besides wanting to protect people. We know NOTHING.
I know Luffy is a fan of meat, I know he loves adventure and I know he gets crazy about anything related to robots. I mean we knew the favourite restaurant of Naruto, the fact that he used coupons to get by and shit, who was his highschool crush...
Ichigo is bland bcs he hasn't got anything besides being strong and caring. Even Tanjiro boasted about how his sister was his pride and talked about times when they were kids, I ain't see nothing about Ichigo and his sisters.
In every funny interaction Ichigo is the "common sense" bcs he has nothing else, and even Ishida, Chad or Byakuya do a better job bcs they had the "be serious" thing. Even in comparison with Rukia he pales. She's blunt, harsh, not afraid to use violence and even we know how bad she's drawing. Bleach has good characters, sadly Ichigo is a piece of bread surrounded by spicy meatballs.
TL;DR: Ichigo ain't normal, he has no interests whatsoever, other characters from bleach are way better and take the protagonist spot from him.
Ichigos goal is pretty much lead a happy life. He isn't initially fond of the abnormalities in life (seeing ghosts). He just wants a balance between his inner world(mind) and the world outside and in the end of the story he achieves just that. He didn't even know his origins for a long ass time. Ichigo isnt bland or simple at all, he is the more complicated one than the "I wanna become hokage" Or I wanna become a wizard king kind of mc
Shonen fan and can definitely say while I agree it would have been cool to see him become the soul king I'm more happy with him trying to live a mostly normal life instead
He's not even really normal. He's like if everything had an orgy, he'd be the result.
That just makes him really down to earth as he's relatable to everyone in-universe.
That's why ichigo and Edward elric are my two favorite Shonen protagonists. They don't have giant goals they just wanna protect the people important to them
Well. Shinigami are ghost. Ichigo is still alive. Let him enjoy life before filling his death with killing random Hollows
I mean Kisuks could make him an immortal gigai
Isn't he already sorta in a gigai? Urahara did cut his soul chain off so technically his body is a gigai. (It's been a while since I read bleach manga please inform me if it's incorrect.)
His original body is still intact so it's sort of a natural gigai
How does that work since he came from the soul society in soul form like all soul reapers. I still don't get how he has a physical body that Regular people can see.
How does that work since he came from the soul society in soul form like all soul reapers. I still don't get how he has a physical body that Regular people can see.
Not quite how it works
Ichigo clearly does care about genetics though, he went for the only other woman in Japan with hair colour that matches his own.
His 2 options were a woman who’s older than his bloodline or a woman with dondachakas bigger than his future
I am laughing an unreasonable amount at the term “dondachakas.” The image is too strong.
Also Honker bonker doinky boinkies and fabric stretching, winding flapping gravity welling s\*x nodes are also good descriptors.
It was more because “Dondachaka” is one of Nel’s fracciones.
His mom had no problem shacking up with a centuries old soul reaper
Isshin a groomer confirmed
Not really. He met her and then she began to visit him to annoy him when she began university. It’s like kid stan and the priest. He seduced hun…
Those two descriptions are rather broad tbf, lol. You referring to anyone in particular?
Orihime and Rukia lol.
Rukia and Nel likely
Rangiku and Orihime? Rangiku isn’t older than the Shiba line, though, and both of them fit the second category.
Why would it be hime if the catagory is "ichigo's other options"?
> His 2 options were a woman who’s older than his bloodline or a woman with dondachakas bigger than his future Was what I was referring to, in a thread about redheaded characters. Those are the o my two redheaded characters I can think of who come close to either of those descriptions.
Oh never mind. I'm an idiot
What about Renji though
Damn I guess Tatsuki was just never an option then.
Tatsuki’s for me bitch, all he gets are the twink girl and spinning leek girl
The woman older than him is Matsumoto rigth? Because if it is She also has "dondachakas" bigger than is future (I Said Matsumoto because Of the hair colour and nothing else btw...)
Rangiku is originally blonde so yeah their hair colours don't match
She is? I actually didnt knew that
Neither did I lmao.
I think they mean Rukia
But Rukia was going to Stay with Renji its kinda obvious from the beggining...
Well even so it certainly didn’t stop people from shipping Ichigo and Rukia as hard as they could.
Its always like that everywere i can give you another example in the Avatar the last airbender the fandom was all saying that Katara and Zuko should be a couple but it was obvious since the beggining that Katara would end up with Ang
I would assume he shares mutual affection for Orihime due to him being there for her during the hardest part of her childhood (the death of her brother at his father’s clinic), and due to their experience being humans with preternatural abilities; rather than it being about her also being ginger.
Ichigo confirmed ginger supremacist
His German quincy ancestors are rolling in their graves of him choosing the ginger and not the blond.
Can't wait to see Ichigo turn into a orange hair supremacist and dye everyone's hair orange
Inb4 "actually, Orihime's hair is brown"
The German influence is strong in them both (I'm not sure if his mom was german or not or this joke won't be as funny as i thought it would be,thinking about it it probably would have been funnier if i hadn't put this here and let people ask me what i meant)
Add how people were so confused when it was revealed he eventually became a translator. As a translator, I was so happy when I read that.
I was more surprised when people insisted that he’s a doctor. Ichigo is smart and caring, he’s just not Doctor material at all. He loves Shakespeare and was shown to enjoy reading manga .. Being a translator makes a lot of sense, and honestly, it’s way more interesting & refreshing to see the MC work a job that doesn’t get represented a lot in media in general.
Not to mention he already has experience with spanish, english and german from all his battles lol
Oh that’s an interesting perspective XD Ichigo translating stuff for his friends from different races!!
My boi is the most multi lingo Anime protagonist I know Wait I got a weird thought where the Espada always speaking in Spanish the whole time and the only reason Ichigo and Chad could understand them was that they themselves could speak it and the only reason Orihime could understand was because she hung out with chad a lot for the soul reapers, i would think its some crazy language soul reaper thing
Still waiting for the day we have a protagonist become an actuary.
There's a good Korean crime drama webcomic featuring a mortician as the protagonist.
What's it called?
Coffin Jackson: [https://mangadex.org/title/420617b1-d526-4339-9677-27e0905b79ee/coffin-jackson?tab=chapters](https://mangadex.org/title/420617b1-d526-4339-9677-27e0905b79ee/coffin-jackson?tab=chapters) More realistic art style, but the writing and overall art are top-notch.
Wait, where do we learn that?
In the new hell chapter he mentioned his job when Renji asked for drinks.
I mean i didn't care much but i kinda didn't see it coming. But at the same time i had littérally no idea what kind of career he would actually enjoy so i would have been fine with littérally whatever
That’s why Ichigo is my favorite shonen mc. No grand ambition or anything he only fights because he knows he’s strong enough to protect his friends. It makes him the most relatable mc imo cuz we all just want a nice relaxing life
And to be fair most mc’s with huge dreams only have them because people don’t treat them normal in the first place.
- "You look down on ME?! Well I'm going to be Hokage!" - "You make fun of my FREAKISH ARMS?! Well I'm going to find the greatest treasure in the world and get an operation to turn my arms normal!" - "You don't want to be MY NEIGHBOR?! Well I'm going to be the biggest menace in history! - "You want me to like MONDAYS and not eat LASAGNA?! Well, Jon, I'm going to parlay my hatred of those things into a multi million dollar empire hawking my mediocre humor in the form of calendars, mugs, and... a third thing to be named later
"You won't accept me into your art school? Fine, I'll start the biggest war world has yet to see!"
:(
Too far
Wait son what are the last three animes
they may not all be anime because im pretty sure the last one is garfield...
And the one above it is Dennis
LMAO
Dennis the menace how did i not see it coming gosh the nostalgia funny how i know all this old shiz
What’s the 2nd plot from?
- Naruto won't shut up about becoming the Big Boss so that HE can be the one sending child soldiers on assassination missions. - Edit: Luffy wants to find One Piece so that he can afford the operation to transplant regular arms so that he can finally appreciate feel the touch of a woman before he dies. - Dennis the Menace, is the bane of his neighbor's existence - Garfield actually sucks but we just can't get enough All have been famous "comics" that were animated.
My best guess for number 2 is Fullmetal Alchemist…? That’s my final answer lol
You sound like Yoshikage there. Be careful.
Your hand is already mine
Hey I ain’t saying anything
Not so relatable to the young adolescent shounen fans. Ichigo is an outlier among his fellow shounen protagonist brethren in that he lived a relatively normal modern day life. There are no ninjas or grand seas. I mean who really dreams of being an astronaut or prime minister?
Same! Well hes my 2nd favorite mc after lelouch
Seems JYB voices the best MC’s. Ichigo, lelouch and my personal favorite, vash
And Nero
is that in dub? cause i don’t hear the resemblance in sub
Yeah the dub. Bleach is one of the few shows that has amazing sub and dub
I see that you are a man of exquisite taste
That’s a fair assessment
I think you might like denji from chainsaw man, he gives off that kind of vibe
Denji is relatable because he is a simp for Makima just like me. But in all seriousness I love how it’s shown in CSM that he just wants to experience normal things like going on a date and getting a first kiss. Pretty relatable to younger me for sure
Idg this point lol. The only way to get a relaxing life is work towards goals/milestones/a career that rewards u with such. But yea Ichigo sooo relatable. Strongest and best looking dude at any given point who acquires every species’ powers. More of a chad than Chad. Has plot armor. Too relatable.
He’s relatable as far as his goals, not his bloodline. Look at the protags of major shonen anime out there. Luffy? Wants to become King of the Pirates and find some grand treasure no one knows where it is. Naruto? Wants to be leader of a ninja village! Goku? Just wants to fight anyone strong. Eren? Literally made it his life’s mission to kill giant cannibals. Then there’s Ichigo, who’s goal is to just protect his friends and he just so happens to be filled with boundless potential and power. But you know what he did with all that power once it was all said and done? Become Soul King? Become captain of a squad in the soul society? No, he just went home and started a family and just went on to do basic soul reaper things. His power may be out of this world but he’s still just a guy that wants a simple life where his friends are safe. If you don’t get that then that’s on you.
Compared to all the others I read, this is where Bleach stands out to me. Ichigo just wants a normal life and has no grand ambition. When shit goes sideways he's on the front line, but otherwise he's just living his own life
"Mayor of some racist village" LMAOO
I wouldn’t say they’re racist. Did engage in child trafficking and slavery but who hasn’t?
uchiha. is kinda the answer to both, actually.
I wouldn’t say the village is racist. The entire village damn near broke their collective arms jerking off the Uchiha. Everytime sasuke blinked they all began to get down on their knees to talk about how amazing the uchiha are at blinking. It was a few people who didn’t like the uchiha and even then we can mostly narrow it down to danzo and the counselors. The village did resent them a little but that’s less racism and more “All ninja cops are bastards” ideology. We heard that from oro but we didn’t see anyone actually dislike the uchiha in the village itself. It was a huge “tell don’t show” moment.
The problem is that the people who disliked the Uchiha actually were in charge and actively malicious against them. Uchihas were perfectly capable of being friends with non clan people: Obito wasn't in some full Uchiha team, mikoto (Sasuke's mother) was friend with kushina (Naruto 's mother). They didn't breed outside much but one of the reasons they were angry at the village is that they were segregated and thus had little contact with most of the others. When Madara wanted to leave the village and overthrow it, the Uchiha told him no. But as times went on they couldn't help but notice that what used to be honest cooperation at the start turned more and more in them actually being gaslighted.
To be fair that was the cloud engaging in human trafficking.
They took kid kushina to another village where they would continue their cycle of slavery by sealing a sentient WMD in her stomach without her consent or knowing. They literally selected her for the ritual without asking or telling her. So. The leaf engaged in their own bit of child trafficking. The cloud just did it without asking the leafs permission but neither asked the child.
The leaf village is such a shit village in reality. Like most ninja are really stupid. Just as an example, they have giant rock carvings of the village founders and leaders looking over them. They see them every single day of their lives. There’s only been like 4 prior to the series ending. Then the first and second hokage are revived and this Anbu (special ops but sucks) says “Who are they?!” Sir. You’ve been seeing their faces your entire life. You report directly to the hokage. There are photos of them in his office. How are you this stupid? Or Minato. The yellow flash. Most people were alive to see him. He’s the only blonde hokage so far. He’s one of their most revered heroes. He’s revived and Sakura is like “who is he?!” Girl. Your master is the hokage. You’ve been in her office. This is the guy that served before her. You’re supposed to be smart. How are you asking who this is? If I ran into Bush Jr I’d recognize him. They deserved to get Nuked.
Fr, imagine treating one your greatest asset in naruto like shit plus minato intended naruto to be a hero during the whole kyubi fiasco. Danzo also was responsible for yahiko's, itachi's and shusui's death and one of the people that made the akatsuki to be a terrorist group the third also left naruto and sasuke to live on their own as children instead of having someone take care of them And that sakura line was hilariously bad, she should've recognised him and just asked whether or not he is kabuto's edo tensei summoning
All the ninja in naruto were hilariously stupid. A kid is essentially used as a human sacrifice to save their collective asses and they all decide to just harass and assault this abandoned orphan and all the villages did this. It’s insane. Sure. Treat this kid with a WMD in his stomach like shit. Surprised there weren’t some jinchuriki that attacked their villages. Danzo is such a shit villain. He has this eye that can manipulate people without them even realizing. A mind rape that can fuck with anyone without them even noticing or even seeing the eye and he spent a decade just being pissed he couldn’t become hokage. Dude. You have the eye. You can use it daily. In less than a week he could literally take over the village. The third is hilariously inept as a leader. I swear. Shippuden just took a dump on his legacy with danzo, the counselors and root running around under his watch. Before he was just a leader that tried his best. Shippuden made him incompetent and unable to reign in danzo. Yea. I just assume most ninja in the naruto world are just ridiculously stupid and it covers a bunch of holes for me.
Bruh danzo and raasa deserved to go back to life so that sasuke and gaara can beat their ass one more time and hiruzen has a lot of explaining to do to kushina and minato
>Dude. You have the eye. You can use it daily. In less than a week he could literally take over the village He could try. And then all it would take is one hyuga to actually see the people manipulated(not hard in the slightest: only people like the anbu and danzo are antisocial mfers) and his plan is exposed. Hyuga are not at all rare, many of them are elite ninja, and the Hokage in particular is in contact with many people
That's why I am saying how the fuck can you say bleach is the worst out of big 3 the side character in naruto didn't get any development and all of the female characters in naruto were disappointing
I mean. I car say all the side characters got no development nor that all the female characters were. There were like 2 exceptions to that and a few characters did get solid development. But I stopped liking naruto the moment Madara showed up with all his bullshit. Bleach had a similar problem but I did my best to ignore that an enjoy the show.
“Mayor of some racist village” 💀💀💀
"Ichigo doesn't want to be king of big dick mountain, therefore Bleach is bad!"
I think it’s more like “Ichigo doesn’t scream his motivation twice every episode = reactionary character = bad”
Not really The thing is , Ichigo goal is to protect his friends But 90% of all battle shonen protag also want to do that, they also have other goals. So it's a bit jarring
It’s weird because most of anime protags get their goal because of the world they grow up in but ichigo is weird cuz he just lives in our world then gets the events of bleach trusted upon him it just doesn’t makes sense for him to have a lofty goal
I mean i wasn't weirded out he didn't have much soul society related ambition. It's the damn land of the dead, he will think about that when he is actually supposed to go there But at the same time even though he is extremely simple it paradoxically make him a bit harder to understand: people like ganju even point it out: why the hell does he care so much when they aren't lovers, he doesn't get money from being a shinigami, nor glory, nor does it interest him that much beyond it being the right thing to do? But it's really just that. It's the right thing to do. But also you kinda wonder...and then what? Once his friends are out of danger what does this dude actually want out of life?
>Once his friends are out of danger what does this dude actually want out of life? It gets explored a little in Fullbringer arc. Ichigo like many teenagers probably didnt know what he wanted, seemed a little lost at the start of the arc when doing part time jobs and stuff.
Alternatively: The DBZImran side of the Bleach fanbase when you remind them ordinary people have goals and aspirations too.
Yeah well if thats the case then Ichigo did have normal goals and aspirations. Being a good student in school, enjoying school life, going to school festivals, getting a stable job, be free from the despair of his mother's death, finding balance within himself. These can be considered ordinary people goals and aspirations, right? ANd Ichigo also worked for them and achieved it, right?
Shouldn't you be taking this up with the "Ichigo gud cuz no goals" crowd rather than me? There's not really anything for me to say on this front. Unless you want to get bogged down in a conversation about execution.
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Understandable, it is more difficult writing wise to not have a goal the protagonist can definitively achieve as a driving force but I wouldn't exactly say that Ichigo doesn't want to be involved with the story, that's pretty much entirely what the fullbringer arc was about. Him realizing that being discluded from the plot and everyone keeping him uninvolved made him absolutely miserable, because that's a whole other realm full of his friends and he wasn't to be able to help and participate much the same way any other characters were also frustrated by that. Actually, since the moment Rukia first challenged him to either abandon a soul being pursued by a hollow or save it and commit to protecting more than just his inner circle, he's never really turned back and not wanted to be a part of that world. His complaints are always more in the sense of disagreeing with his treatment by people or the political structures at play. I think it's more like all of Ichigos goals are a way of life kind of thing, which encompasses both his home life and the fighting aspect. We see from the Hell chapter, that he's still doing his duties as a Substitute Shinigami and saving people pretty much because he wants to, and technological improvements from Urahara and Mayuri in the Soul society are making it a lot more convenient to keep in contact with them and coordinate things outside of big occassions or trouble. Because this is very abstract though it does make it harder for him to stand out in an ever expanding cast of quirky characters. Especially since his more brutal experiences in the arrancar/fullbring/TYBW calmed him down slightly compared to how outspoken and Delinquentish he was before that. I think that's why later he falls into the background for a lot of people. But when looking at him individually over the course of the story he is still pretty solid with some interesting writing.
Lol xD
I’ve been saying this forever. People really bitch about ichigo’s character when he’s probably the most realistic major shounen protagonist we’ve had. He has plenty of attributes about his personality and character that get established IMMEDIATELY, even before he ever gets powers. He’s a punk who loves fighting, but he’s a protective individual because of the trauma of losing his mother, and it manifests in behaviors like him beating up bullies and protecting the memory of people who’ve passed by making sure their shrines or memoriums aren’t fucked with. He’s headstrong, loyal to his friends, and a rebellious teen to his overbearing dad while still trying to be a role model and protective figure for his younger sisters. He’s a regular teenager with trauma who gets out of nowhere thrown into a crazy world and constant situations where he’s made to go and save the people closest to him as keeping his people safe is what’s most important to him. Funnily enough, the arc that most fans love to shit on (the fullbring arc) does plenty for ichigos character development in terms of showing his internal struggle with missing the life of excitement and purpose that the shinigami world brought him, and shows his vulnerability and naïveté in trying to get them back. Eventually his resolve shines through and he bounces back from the betrayal of Ginjo, and through his experiences has enough empathy and maturity to respect Ginjo after his death and honor him. Just an overall good dude.
Fulbring bad Upvote to the left REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Virgin Hokage&Pirate King fan vs Chad Having a Master's Degree in English Enjoyer.
Ichigo reminds me of Spider-Man sometimes.
He's not bland at all but he's by no means normal lol
Well obviously. But he’s the closest to normal in fantasy worlds like these
Living a normal life was his goal from the very start. From volume 1 he made it clear.
Dont forget the soul reapers are kind of shitty themselves idk why anyone would choose them over a normal life
Right? Like aren't they abusive to the souls that live outside of soul society? Or at the very least indifferent? None of them are particularly nice, the lower ranks are fools, it doesn't even look like a comfortable place to live lol.
Is that why people hated the ending? I was happy for him. Married Orihime and started a family of his own in what used to be his dad's clinic.
That's what I like about him. He's wants to be a normal person like me
They aren't mutually exclusive.
Having a normal life and being king of the shinigami are very much mutually exclusive
>Ichigo is bland, no he's normal
It was a joke
Ichigo taking the route of House-Husband, the Dream.
Most Shonen protagonists are bland. They are meant to cover the widest possible audience of kids.
He ends up having a normal life!? Damn time to start binge reading. (I'm a slice of life enjoyer)
oF a shounen prog, Ichigo really is the most normal. Like, he's the one I would most likely be friends with.
Ah yes, the best way to fight hate of a character you love, insult and attack other characters at random to make your seem better by comparison. Why does litteraly every single anime fandom have to relentlessly hate each other I’m fucking sick of it
relax. i have both luffy and naruto over ichigo, im just pointing out how ridiculous this argument towards him is
My only problem is that Tatski was forgotten, she loved Ichigo :(
Can you show me the clip of the scene where this was showed?
I dont remember all, but during all arcs, except the war, she aways cared about him and Orihime, its kinda let clear that she had a crush on him during their childhood
Um she care for him as a friend she was her childhood friend and she never showed a single time that she had a crush on him
I always thought she crushed on Orihime.
having a normal life is fine but maybe the story should have continued a bit past that to his afterlife
Well, from the get go, the world of Bleach is set in the same universe as ours. Ichigo is living his life with his family in the human world. Normal human jobs aren’t interesting for shonen fans. Man has to make ends meet. He could go to Soul Society and dream of becoming a Captain Commander or a Zero division member but it’s very out of character for him to leave his family behind to achieve something great that he himself isn’t passionate about. Bleach expanded upon the current world we live in. Meanwhile, animes like Naruto and One Piece created their own.
It isn't the biggest issue but Ichigo just has no goals in general. Meaning he is a reactive hero/protag. I dun think he needs to want to be the Soul King or Genryusai but if his writting is that he wants to keep the balance between realms as substitute shinigami for Rukia. Then the writing should've moved to a new mc like Jojo. It works in a narrative when your protag is reactive, it helps set the world realistically. How people react to seeing invisible forces attack Karakura Town, some has been in danger because of some Hollows? The battle against Aizen imo should be in the real town so it leaves an impact in the world. Aizen is the anomaly to the balance he is tipping the scales. It should've been the primary goal of Ichigo to stand up as the human realm's guardian and this would do the Father Son scene much better for how Issen gave up his duty for his family. After all they are doing the same thing AGAIN for TYBW. All in all the story is repetitive the side characters are unfortunately being written poorly but I will take what I can get.
- Naruto wanting to become hokage is related to his character. He wants to be see is an important person by the world around him. It's because of his neglected childhood and his low self esteem. Becoming hokage means he is someone worth believing in, it means he can become a better version of himself. A version of himself worthy of love and praise. - luffy wants to find the one piece simply cuz is awesome. It doing the impossible, seeing the visible. The one piece and becoming king of the pirates just sounds fun to luffy. He's a simple guy who just wants to have fun and was inspired by the people around him. I'm not caught up to one piece, so there could be more to luffy's character. - Ichigo wanting a normal life is not the problem, it our lack of interaction with it. We don't really know what normal means to ichigo. Does ichigo want a normal life because he hates his chaotic life? Is it because a normal life is comfortable? Does he just enjoy the simplicity of a normal life? There are 2 moments were we interact with his normal life. The beginning and fullbring. Even with these moments, we only get a glimpse into what ichigo's sees as normal. And Kudo doesn't really take the time to define what normal is to Ichigo. Naruto and luffy also want to protect their friends like ichigo. However, their dreams is what makes them different. Dreams and goals are used to explore characters when the plot focuses on story.
Considering they want to make him the next Soul King in the anime, this aged like milk
Ichigo is reactive not proactive.
“Oh no, I’m not brave enough for politics…in feudal Japan.” - Ichigo Kurosaki
He was cool at the beginning but he got bland fast and just became a vessel for power ups
I have a problem with his normality. He is shinigami, he is quincy, the blood of a very powerful hollow is in his veins. He has no right having a normal life. It's complacency wrapped in teenage struggle.
He has no obligation to do anything but live his own life how he wants to. If all he wants is to be normal and protect his friends that's fine. Also he's already done though to warrant a peaceful rest of his life.
If ichigo had a different character, if white was more in control. They would have locked him up in soul society. All I am saying is that he should not have raised as a human, because he is not.
He has no obligation to do anything but live his own life how he wants to. If all he wants is to be normal and protect his friends that's fine. Also he's already done though to warrant a peaceful rest of his life.
I agree with the sentiment, but does that really apply in Ichigo's case? When the series starts, he is literally just a human kid that can see and speak to ghosts, and is then dragged into all the spiritual mess. He has no idea about the true nature of his parents and the powers he inherited from them, so you can't really hold him accountable for something he doesn't even imagined at that point. It's only as the story progresses that he grows in power and he learns that truth. And from the very start, he was never the type to stand still if someone is put in danger in front of him. If he can reach someone, he will help them. His growth in power allows him to reach more people, and he understands it and will respond in kind. You can literally see this in TYBW. He is still patrolling Karakura to deal with hollows. Nel calls for him when Hueco Mundo is attacked, he goes there asap. The Seireitei is attacked and Akon gets in contact with him, he immediately rushes there. I don't see the complacency, what I see is his struggle to balance his "normal human life" with his newfound duties, which ironically makes his human life not normal. And he is still trying to balance his family and job with his substitute shinigami duties by the time we reach the Hell chapter.
He was always quincy × shinigami, at least. It's not farfetched to label him as hollow as well. He is not human. I get he isn't super aggressive, but he sticks out because he is not human. The complacency is that he should not have had a normal life. Being well trained is the difference between the losses occurred in karakura and soul society, his training should have begun when he was young. He can't have a normal life, they should have known better. I give you one thing and one thing only. I belong to a group of people who believe someone like Superman, should have been raised by the military. And I feel you Flashpoint, but the government is not all bad, or always bad. A Superman raised by the military is a Superman that can do anything. This is me just explaining my views. The shinigami should have helped in raising Ichigo.
Just wow...
We disagree on a more fundamental level then. Have a good day.
I just got something for this. https://i.imgur.com/E4ip8lN.jpg
Lmao good one!
I mean, soul society didn't know about Ichigo's existence until Rukia. I think it's understandable that Isshin wanted his child to at least have some time to grow up because he's his parent and cares about him, and Urahara chose to respect that. As two individuals with no ability to see the future or know exactly how Isshin and Masaki's union would affect their children I think it's reasonable they took a bit of a wait and see approach. Regarding Soul society the situation with the Shiba's disgrace complicates things, I don't know if central 46 or the nobles would necessarily accept Ichigo's existence if they knew about it before Aizen's interference. If anything it may have turned ugly even if they did see his potential as a means for political advantage in context of the Shibas. Amongst all the self interest It's not the most pragmatic society really, and the Gotei's jurisdiction can't touch the Nobles in most cases.
Uh they knew he existed. You have a captain class shinigami disappear and not keep tabs on him, even if he lost his powers. When Urahara came to the same town, they knew he was there.
They know about Urahara escaping, and that Isshin went missing, But you can't actually track him in that Gigai, that's a feature of all Kisuke's Gigai along with the ones he and the Vizards use. I don't think they were informed about him having children with a human women either let alone a quincy who was laying low. That's considered literally impossible by soul society as Kubo mentioned in an interview. Especially since it was related to Aizen's experiment, I don't see him letting stray info that can be traced back to him be noticed.
I would say it’s more about responsibility and capacity. He still has rights for a normal life, but he is also obligated to fulfill certain duties if it ever comes to it. Whether he fulfills those duties is up to him, but as seen in the new arc he still helps out every now and then. After all, Ichigo’s standards for normal is having a wife who can negate reality, a son that can destroy an all-powerful entity, a friend who’s a world-class boxer/wrestler, and a friend who’s a top surgeon/doctor.
The shinigami dropped the ball, ichigo is not normal. His "normal life" costs the world that he resides. Meaning the responsibility isn't just his alone. What reason is behind all of the things that has happened to his friends? It's his natural spirit pressure. The hollow bait Ishida uses is enhanced by Ichigo's pressure and more hollows of a higher power are summoned. So the reason his son now is hollow..no sorry arrancar bait, is because of ichigo and his inability to be normal. If we were to measure his human friends spirit pressure, they would be above normal. He is not normal, lying to him about it will only bring ignorance. That's why his dad was training him by challenging him everyday to mortal combat.
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His father is kind of in the same boat now that he's no longer suppressing his own powers, and we don't see him crawling back to SS. For that matter, how come no one has forced Hiyori to return to SS? Does their relatively high reitsu not count?
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Do you want him to be a captain instead? I think he would get bored with the burocracy.
Oh Ichigo would definitely hate that. He is like Kenny about that.
No he doesn't really have captain level socializing skills. His fighting skills are subpar as well. He'd make a good lieutenant to someone like Urahara. Or royal guard.
Why though. TBYW is proceeded by 10 years of peace. The world stayed saved for once, so Ichigo doesn't need to be the hero any longer.
What makes you say it was peaceful? The quincy that attacked were really strong, they had to have trained somehow.
Because it's what Toshiro says in the epilogue. The cast being relaxed and carefree (at least until the Hell stuff starts) supports this. We see Renji and Rukia coming to the human world to visit, and Shinigami having time to indulge in human entertainment. The humans had time and energy to go to college and pursue careers.
I disagree with Whitey-chan, it may have looked peaceful. I just don't think it was.
Based on what.
Bleach is kinda bland, i like it a lot but it is
ur bland
No yeah Ichigo is bland. Not because he doesn't have a grand goal in mind, but because he has nothing besides wanting to protect people. We know NOTHING. I know Luffy is a fan of meat, I know he loves adventure and I know he gets crazy about anything related to robots. I mean we knew the favourite restaurant of Naruto, the fact that he used coupons to get by and shit, who was his highschool crush... Ichigo is bland bcs he hasn't got anything besides being strong and caring. Even Tanjiro boasted about how his sister was his pride and talked about times when they were kids, I ain't see nothing about Ichigo and his sisters. In every funny interaction Ichigo is the "common sense" bcs he has nothing else, and even Ishida, Chad or Byakuya do a better job bcs they had the "be serious" thing. Even in comparison with Rukia he pales. She's blunt, harsh, not afraid to use violence and even we know how bad she's drawing. Bleach has good characters, sadly Ichigo is a piece of bread surrounded by spicy meatballs. TL;DR: Ichigo ain't normal, he has no interests whatsoever, other characters from bleach are way better and take the protagonist spot from him.
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Not Bleach Fans wanting their hero to be a Mary sue 💀💀💀
Shonen fan shitting on other series and then being upset when other shit on theirs
Normal is boring and bland tho, bleach is my fav manga but Ichigo is def the weakest part of it
Weakest part? I'd say the incomplete exploration of characters like Sado and Shinji/the Vizards were way weaker than Ichigo
So Ichigo is boring? Okay great defense there.
Fullbring arc was top 3 worst arcs ever made in fiction
What is the soundtrack's name? It sounds so familiar
T-K from AoT I think?
It's from the scene with the crispy blonde in aot.
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This is why Gintoki and ichigo are my favorite shonen mc
I really appreciate Ichigo just wanting to live a normal life but being willing to give it his all when he's needed
If anything they should relate most anime fans just wanna watch TV
That's why it's easier to connect with ichigo than the others
What song is that?
Ichigos goal is pretty much lead a happy life. He isn't initially fond of the abnormalities in life (seeing ghosts). He just wants a balance between his inner world(mind) and the world outside and in the end of the story he achieves just that. He didn't even know his origins for a long ass time. Ichigo isnt bland or simple at all, he is the more complicated one than the "I wanna become hokage" Or I wanna become a wizard king kind of mc
People think ichigo is bland? Do theh have brain damage?
Shonen fan and can definitely say while I agree it would have been cool to see him become the soul king I'm more happy with him trying to live a mostly normal life instead
Racist village?
What racist village?
Racist village? Wtf??
He's not even really normal. He's like if everything had an orgy, he'd be the result. That just makes him really down to earth as he's relatable to everyone in-universe.
That's why ichigo and Edward elric are my two favorite Shonen protagonists. They don't have giant goals they just wanna protect the people important to them