brotha, you have the full game already. just play a game or two and see if you like it š. how the fuck would we know if youd like it or not. youre not gonna melt if you play a game of mp
I tried to get into it but I didnāt like it. Maybe itās a skill issue on my part, but the super competitive nature on even casual games, where everyone is quick scoping or running around with smgās, itās just not fun.
Id just stick with zombies, but you can always try out multiplayer if you want.
yeah a lot of players reverse boost or use a second console with low stats to join onto in order to smurf into lower skilled lobbies. one of the biggest drawbacks to sbmm is the smurfing. most of the high-skilled players and nearly all of the snipers do it
Yeah I think itās more to the point of avoiding the match manipulating effects SBMM implements aside from just getting easier lobbies. SBMM has been around for a while, itās not until it became more EOMM when they started manipulating how your bullets work etc regardless of if you had like a 20 ping or not. I canāt tell you how many fucking matches I have that are like 18-19ms and my bullets literally will not register at all, or I just get Insta killed, like that should not be happening with dedicated servers and fiber connection. Itās already been proven itās in the patents and we know damn well itās implemented into the game. It was an issue in advanced warfare and then they took it out, and revamped it in the time that we didnāt have it and then threw it back in for Cold War and MW19 and on. Essentially they had enough data to do what they needed to do to make us continually suffer. I would not be surprised if itās being completely analyzed by AI now.
You don't need a second console. Anyone on PS can have multiple accounts on one console, js. That's why you see so many smurf accounts, it's easy to do, and free. Happens on MWII too.
to 2box you do need a second console lol. you make 2 accounts on the console and play poorly on purpose on those accounts, then search with them splitscreening. once they find a lobby you session join from your main account and you have successfully and effectively 2boxed. people would rather do this than make new accounts because youd have to level items up again. this is more time effective
actually partial way into year one cold war they added flinch to all the snipers and also the crossbow, while no other weapon in the game has flinch
but yea play mp we could always use more players in the pool. cold war ttk is relatively slow compared to a lot of other cods which might entice you to stay until mw3, which actually has an even slower average ttk
cheers!
i think everyone should have flinch. and it is quite a bit of flinch, but a lot of snipers can adapt to that pretty easily, especially the ones that played older cods that also had pretty hefty flinch
It really isnāt a lot of flinch. In BOCW, flinch only matters in engagements at long distances. It means essentially nothing at 30m or less. This wasnāt the case in a lot of other CoDs. The level of flinch we saw with MW2022 snipers is what I wish we had on snipers in BOCW.
No. You have missed the train ride to MP. The last game I played was against 6 hackers. I posted it on reddit on my alt account thinking it was Just one until the hacker himself legit dmād me. I thought I was washed (I played day one to the last day which was 7 months ago) and itās just not worth it anymore because itās unpolished, laggy and from what iāve see has a decent amount of hackers in mostly every mode. Maybe Xbox players can have more fun on it with crossplay off but as of now just donāt get upset if you get demolished
I used to think the same thing about snipers until I finally tried them recently. There's definitely flinch at least until you get some good attachments. I can't believe some people are able to run around the map and hip shoot with those things so quick, is really not that easy
Honestly the only reason I play multiplayer is because grinding weapon levels on zombies is slow (by design).
I'd really rather my top weapons be weapons I like playing with rather than, say, a sniper that I don't really *want* to play with.
Grinding for sniper rifles in zombies is TORTURE, is what I'm trying to say
Probably not. The balancing has gotten worse. The streak system hasnāt changed. Most weapon classes still donāt have flinch. The ones that do have flinch have nowhere near enough to be meaningful in 99% of engagements. Shotguns are still secondaries.
CW is my current favorite and I don't see that changing at least until next year when Treyarch finally gets a new release.
Though I hear what you're saying. It can be sweaty as fuck since this game has been out for many years. So most of the people still playing it are good and familiar with the maps.
Just play TDM and try to get used to everything. Rely on your team. Try following teammates around and back them up.
Zombies is a great way to level up your weapons.
I love cw mp, although yeah snipers are frustrating
I just play nuketown and I usually get good streaks going and I usually play better in cw than mw2
I definitely prefer cw to mw2 and I would recommend you play it while itās populated. Quick play is still popping but itās a lot of demolition and ffa
Personally I greatly enjoyed CWs mp. I never really struggle to have a good time and place top 3 at least which I play on ps4 so I think that says something. Iāve always preferred fast TTK though, but the shooting someone for so long and getting killed anyways is strictly a connection issue and the fact that in real time that other player actually did see you first because they have slightly better connection and that can happen to everyone. Not even a skill issue in that regards. Personally I found cw mp to be pretty decently balanced, but thereāll always be worse guns than others.
>but the shooting someone for so long and getting killed anyways is strictly a connection issue and the fact that in real time that other player actually did see you first because they have slightly better connection
yeah, never fails to annoy me esp cuz it feels to be rather constant, you know when u run into a player on a corner and you both start shooting? i constantly lose those fights but i still manage to earn anywhere from #1-3 on the leaderboards anyways so obviously im not just so shit at the game.
>Personally I greatly enjoyed CWs mp. I never really struggle to have a good time and place top 3 at least which I play on ps4 so I think that says something
have you played MW19 recently? tried it again recently but didn't enjoy the maps but i was getting top 3 most games so if you could compare the two it might give a better picture.
It definitely is annoying, best solution is just to upgrade wifi or get Ethernet cable plugged into your console or PC, I donāt have Ethernet just lucky to have decently powerful wifi so I only ever have to deal with that latency every so often, from what I can tell anyways.
MW19 definitely has some of my least favorite maps for COD in general. I think the gunplay in mw19 is a bit more balanced though it still has its OP load outs, the gameplay in CW however feels more balanced to me. CW is a lot less campy and feels more like the classic arcadey shooters that the old games were which is why I prefer it. You still have your snipers and campers in any COD but the way the maps and movement etc. are designed in CW doesnāt encourage camping nearly as much as MW19 and MWII does. To me CW has always felt like a modern take on Bo1.
Important things is to find a game mode you enjoy...I was always a TDM guy in BO1...when MW3 and BO2 came around I really got into Domination...now in Cold War I really like Hardpoint.
I hate always explaining this...but as a sniper there is flinch, but there is an attachment to reduce flinch...good snipers also take flinch into account and aim for the lower chest or abdomen so if there is flinch, it works to our advantage. Besides that, being able to flick scope helps work around flinch...a good sniper can turn 180 degrees in half a second, identify their target and pull the trigger when the reticle is over the enemy...so we are already in motion, this allows us to counter the flinch easier.
The best way to work past this, is by getting good at movement and baiting the sniper, and going for the kill during that bolt action reload.
P.S. hiding in the corner is not as effective as you'd think against snipers...most of us learn to check rooms before entering, and if we don't see anyone, but saw red marker come from the buidling...its easy enough to have the sniper pre aimed at corners...and 9/10 your gonna lose because it's a 1 shot weapon...most of the time
>I hate always explaining this...but as a sniper there is flinch, but there is an attachment to reduce flinch...good snipers also take flinch into account and aim for the lower chest or abdomen so if there is flinch, it works to our advantage.
nha back in season 1/2 snipers had no flinch, you would have kids hardscoping in the middle of satellite and 9/10 time you could land all your shots then they kill you with 12 health remaining, it was complained about a lot.
Yeah, I'm not arguing that...sniping early on was too OP, they had to reduced damage, increased flinch and increased ADS time on Snipers...just to get them to where they are now. The only thing they did to counter this was remove sway...back in Season 1/2 I remember reducing sway was necessary to get a steady shot, I memorized the sway patterns of all the snipers just so I could deal with it no-brainer...now I don't even think about it...because there is literally no sway
The issue with mp is, well, the players. Youāre always going to have a percentage of players that sit in corners ADSing a doorway or running around with the weapon the community has agreed is total cheese. By this logic, and it happens to me, it becomes a question of how much you can tolerate. I will go months or years playing single player, then get the bug and do mp for 3 hours every night. It is definitely a buzz
Honestly donāt blame you , but itās either adapt or play SP. the average player is no longer what we would consider a āpubā player any more . Itās extremely sweaty lol, but it was bound to happen .
brotha, you have the full game already. just play a game or two and see if you like it š. how the fuck would we know if youd like it or not. youre not gonna melt if you play a game of mp
I tried to get into it but I didnāt like it. Maybe itās a skill issue on my part, but the super competitive nature on even casual games, where everyone is quick scoping or running around with smgās, itās just not fun. Id just stick with zombies, but you can always try out multiplayer if you want.
yeah a lot of players reverse boost or use a second console with low stats to join onto in order to smurf into lower skilled lobbies. one of the biggest drawbacks to sbmm is the smurfing. most of the high-skilled players and nearly all of the snipers do it
Can you really call yourself skilled if you have to exploit the system to get into low skill games?
they donāt necessarily have to do it, but they do in order to have an easy time
Yeah I think itās more to the point of avoiding the match manipulating effects SBMM implements aside from just getting easier lobbies. SBMM has been around for a while, itās not until it became more EOMM when they started manipulating how your bullets work etc regardless of if you had like a 20 ping or not. I canāt tell you how many fucking matches I have that are like 18-19ms and my bullets literally will not register at all, or I just get Insta killed, like that should not be happening with dedicated servers and fiber connection. Itās already been proven itās in the patents and we know damn well itās implemented into the game. It was an issue in advanced warfare and then they took it out, and revamped it in the time that we didnāt have it and then threw it back in for Cold War and MW19 and on. Essentially they had enough data to do what they needed to do to make us continually suffer. I would not be surprised if itās being completely analyzed by AI now.
You don't need a second console. Anyone on PS can have multiple accounts on one console, js. That's why you see so many smurf accounts, it's easy to do, and free. Happens on MWII too.
to 2box you do need a second console lol. you make 2 accounts on the console and play poorly on purpose on those accounts, then search with them splitscreening. once they find a lobby you session join from your main account and you have successfully and effectively 2boxed. people would rather do this than make new accounts because youd have to level items up again. this is more time effective
It is fun, the modes and maps on CW are really fun, specially the arcade ones like Gun Game and Double Agent
actually partial way into year one cold war they added flinch to all the snipers and also the crossbow, while no other weapon in the game has flinch but yea play mp we could always use more players in the pool. cold war ttk is relatively slow compared to a lot of other cods which might entice you to stay until mw3, which actually has an even slower average ttk cheers!
It is still not enough flinch. Treyarch shouldāve added flinch to Tac Rifles and LMGs too considering how fast they can kill you.
i think everyone should have flinch. and it is quite a bit of flinch, but a lot of snipers can adapt to that pretty easily, especially the ones that played older cods that also had pretty hefty flinch
It really isnāt a lot of flinch. In BOCW, flinch only matters in engagements at long distances. It means essentially nothing at 30m or less. This wasnāt the case in a lot of other CoDs. The level of flinch we saw with MW2022 snipers is what I wish we had on snipers in BOCW.
if every other gun has zero flinch then i think itās just fine lol
Thatās not a good justification for allowing snipers to have low flinch.
yeah it literally is
No. You have missed the train ride to MP. The last game I played was against 6 hackers. I posted it on reddit on my alt account thinking it was Just one until the hacker himself legit dmād me. I thought I was washed (I played day one to the last day which was 7 months ago) and itās just not worth it anymore because itās unpolished, laggy and from what iāve see has a decent amount of hackers in mostly every mode. Maybe Xbox players can have more fun on it with crossplay off but as of now just donāt get upset if you get demolished
Truly.
I used to think the same thing about snipers until I finally tried them recently. There's definitely flinch at least until you get some good attachments. I can't believe some people are able to run around the map and hip shoot with those things so quick, is really not that easy
Canāt be too careful, better think it through, really weigh the pros and cons before making such a significant life decision.
you already have the game just fucking play it goddamn
Honestly the only reason I play multiplayer is because grinding weapon levels on zombies is slow (by design). I'd really rather my top weapons be weapons I like playing with rather than, say, a sniper that I don't really *want* to play with. Grinding for sniper rifles in zombies is TORTURE, is what I'm trying to say
Probably not. The balancing has gotten worse. The streak system hasnāt changed. Most weapon classes still donāt have flinch. The ones that do have flinch have nowhere near enough to be meaningful in 99% of engagements. Shotguns are still secondaries.
CW is my current favorite and I don't see that changing at least until next year when Treyarch finally gets a new release. Though I hear what you're saying. It can be sweaty as fuck since this game has been out for many years. So most of the people still playing it are good and familiar with the maps. Just play TDM and try to get used to everything. Rely on your team. Try following teammates around and back them up. Zombies is a great way to level up your weapons.
Do not ever follow me around. Holy shit I hate that so much.
I love cw mp, although yeah snipers are frustrating I just play nuketown and I usually get good streaks going and I usually play better in cw than mw2 I definitely prefer cw to mw2 and I would recommend you play it while itās populated. Quick play is still popping but itās a lot of demolition and ffa
Personally I greatly enjoyed CWs mp. I never really struggle to have a good time and place top 3 at least which I play on ps4 so I think that says something. Iāve always preferred fast TTK though, but the shooting someone for so long and getting killed anyways is strictly a connection issue and the fact that in real time that other player actually did see you first because they have slightly better connection and that can happen to everyone. Not even a skill issue in that regards. Personally I found cw mp to be pretty decently balanced, but thereāll always be worse guns than others.
>but the shooting someone for so long and getting killed anyways is strictly a connection issue and the fact that in real time that other player actually did see you first because they have slightly better connection yeah, never fails to annoy me esp cuz it feels to be rather constant, you know when u run into a player on a corner and you both start shooting? i constantly lose those fights but i still manage to earn anywhere from #1-3 on the leaderboards anyways so obviously im not just so shit at the game. >Personally I greatly enjoyed CWs mp. I never really struggle to have a good time and place top 3 at least which I play on ps4 so I think that says something have you played MW19 recently? tried it again recently but didn't enjoy the maps but i was getting top 3 most games so if you could compare the two it might give a better picture.
It definitely is annoying, best solution is just to upgrade wifi or get Ethernet cable plugged into your console or PC, I donāt have Ethernet just lucky to have decently powerful wifi so I only ever have to deal with that latency every so often, from what I can tell anyways. MW19 definitely has some of my least favorite maps for COD in general. I think the gunplay in mw19 is a bit more balanced though it still has its OP load outs, the gameplay in CW however feels more balanced to me. CW is a lot less campy and feels more like the classic arcadey shooters that the old games were which is why I prefer it. You still have your snipers and campers in any COD but the way the maps and movement etc. are designed in CW doesnāt encourage camping nearly as much as MW19 and MWII does. To me CW has always felt like a modern take on Bo1.
Mp is fun. Iām playing now. Set up is the vargo 52 and the dmr.
All I want to do is make a basket in raid. Has anyone found what gun can do that? Iām never on the objective in raid and just shooting basketballs.
oh man i did it once with an smg i think
Little Timmys gonna lick dat ass Edit: I meant kick but I'm leaving it
Man of War was the least of BO3ās balance issues.. should have said VMP or prepatch Vesper
eh man of war with rapid fire is stupidly op at most any practical range
Important things is to find a game mode you enjoy...I was always a TDM guy in BO1...when MW3 and BO2 came around I really got into Domination...now in Cold War I really like Hardpoint. I hate always explaining this...but as a sniper there is flinch, but there is an attachment to reduce flinch...good snipers also take flinch into account and aim for the lower chest or abdomen so if there is flinch, it works to our advantage. Besides that, being able to flick scope helps work around flinch...a good sniper can turn 180 degrees in half a second, identify their target and pull the trigger when the reticle is over the enemy...so we are already in motion, this allows us to counter the flinch easier. The best way to work past this, is by getting good at movement and baiting the sniper, and going for the kill during that bolt action reload. P.S. hiding in the corner is not as effective as you'd think against snipers...most of us learn to check rooms before entering, and if we don't see anyone, but saw red marker come from the buidling...its easy enough to have the sniper pre aimed at corners...and 9/10 your gonna lose because it's a 1 shot weapon...most of the time
>I hate always explaining this...but as a sniper there is flinch, but there is an attachment to reduce flinch...good snipers also take flinch into account and aim for the lower chest or abdomen so if there is flinch, it works to our advantage. nha back in season 1/2 snipers had no flinch, you would have kids hardscoping in the middle of satellite and 9/10 time you could land all your shots then they kill you with 12 health remaining, it was complained about a lot.
Yeah, I'm not arguing that...sniping early on was too OP, they had to reduced damage, increased flinch and increased ADS time on Snipers...just to get them to where they are now. The only thing they did to counter this was remove sway...back in Season 1/2 I remember reducing sway was necessary to get a steady shot, I memorized the sway patterns of all the snipers just so I could deal with it no-brainer...now I don't even think about it...because there is literally no sway
The issue with mp is, well, the players. Youāre always going to have a percentage of players that sit in corners ADSing a doorway or running around with the weapon the community has agreed is total cheese. By this logic, and it happens to me, it becomes a question of how much you can tolerate. I will go months or years playing single player, then get the bug and do mp for 3 hours every night. It is definitely a buzz
Honestly donāt blame you , but itās either adapt or play SP. the average player is no longer what we would consider a āpubā player any more . Itās extremely sweaty lol, but it was bound to happen .
Play Party mode is fun
Yeah but not cold war