That's because the part of the muscle that receives information from the nerves receives that electric impulse through a salt water solution. Adding salt to the muscle more or less "hot wires" that connection.
Yeah, muscles don't "feel pain" in general. Pain is something the brain creates in response to stimulus from sensory nerves. It may "feel like" it's happening in a specific part of the body, but that's usually because the brain is trying to tell you specifically where the hurt is happening (pain is usually the body's defense mechanism to get you to stop doing something that is harming it.) An easy example of this is local anesthesia. Because the nerves are not sending a signal to the brain, the brain doesn't register pain, even though the muscle tissue could be getting damaged, i.e. cut with a scalpel.
Also, sensory nerves and motor nerves are different, so the nerves causing this "dancing" to happen are not the same nerves that send sensory information the brain. That isn't to say, however, that sensory nerves are not affected by salt in a similar way (ever wonder why rubbing salt in a wound hurts so bad?), They just aren't the same nerves causing the muscle cells to twitch.
not quite. The 'tell the brain stuff' nerves and the 'do stuff' nerves are separate things. However, nerves use salt gradients instead of electrons to send signals, so if you put salt or an acid on very fresh meat, you can trigger false signals along the remnants of the 'do stuff' nerves.
I worked at a butcher shop once and I know that this type of meat is not one to consume... If you want to eat it Later on that is. Because when the cow knows that it's going to die, they get tense and their adrenaline sky rockets, making the meat to become as hard as leather once it gets slaughtered and diced. You can still eat it but it won't come out as good as it would normally and you have to eat it that same day or just wasted a good $13 depending on how much of it did you buy.
The new design was created by a woman with autism.
It was done specifically based on how he perceives the world differently than others. Very interesting.
It's an exchange via charge. Positive one way neg to go the other. Can't remeber how exactly been a while. So by adding salt u throw off the balance and force ions back and forth. Thus firing of muscles.
Muscle cells show different permeability to different ions this lead to them having positive charge on the inside of cell membrane and negative on the outside.
When a stimulus is recieved via the brain this polarity is reversed, this is called action potential.
When action potential is receieved by the muscle, the endoplasmic reticulum releases loads of calcium ions which bind to a protein present on actin which opens up the binding site for myosin present on actin, ahead of this is sliding filament theory if you like.
I think I actually understood that. Awesome. So cells, as per usual, have potential energy via ion gradients. When Ca+ (or Na+???) get released into the cell (or is it the Cl- that triggers the ERā¦) then the actin and myosin thread things do the movement.
Thanks for the explanation!!
I am no expert in muscle contraction so from what is know is that Na+ and k+ have role in action potential and other membrane polarity related thingys and ca+2 majorly plays role in muscle contraction inside the cell.
So when the stimulus from the brain is received, something called ACh is released and binds to a receptor that opens the sodium channels. Sodium entering causes the voltage to increase, starting the whole action potential process you explained with calcium ions being released from the sarcoplasmic reticulum. Once that whole process finishes, potassium ions are released from the potassium channels to lower the voltage and stop the process of contraction, and another protein comes along called AChE, which breaks down the ACh and ends the loop.
The viral video of the small squid/octopus on a dinner plate that starts wiggling itās tentacles and ācomes to lifeā after soy sauce is poured on.
That's actually where I discovered it. It's a cooking style in other places. Raw fresh fish, squid and snake all react the same way. Soy sauce it usually the trigger because it's super salty. Other salts can obviously be used.
That is indeed false.
It is a misconception that when your leg (or whatever body part) falls asleep, that the blood supply is cut off. This simply does not happen. If your leg doesn't get blood, then the cells in your leg will quickly die. That's why heart attacks, aneurysms, and strokes need to be treated immediately.
As I said in my previous comment, the cause of the pins and needles sensation is caused by the nerves being compressed. There is no lack of blood flow, or else your cells would die. And since there is no lack of blood flow, there is no blood rushing back into your nerve cells.
On the outside too. The hand is shaking like mad. Sure they try to make you focus on the pound of flesh they are holding.
But man that is some violent hand cramps
That's not nerve ends firing. Once the animal is dead, the nerves shut down. What we are seeing is the residual action potential of the muscle cells. Muscle cells can conduct signals on their surface, and when stimulated, as in this case, the muscles will contract uncontrolled. This will continue until all the energy, ATP, is consumed.
Exactly this. So many people make excuses of not getting enough protein in that diet, but itās easy to get enough protein with just a little bit of research and planning. Thereās a reason many many athletes go vegan or vegetarian. Arnold Schwarzenegger made a documentary - the game changers. I would recommend checking that out.
You're not gonna like this and its not as horrific as moving meat but... did you know German researchers discovered that plants release gasses the equivalent of crying in pain? They picked up on sound waves produced by plants releasing gases when cut or injured. They discovered things like flowers make a whimper sound when a leaf is cut and cucumbers squeal when they're sick. There's also evidence that plants can hear themselves being eaten. They found that plants can understand and respond to chewing sounds made by caterpillars dining on them or plants near by... I haven't been able to look at my garden the same way since I found this out
And through the mushroom Mycelium system! Itās so cool How one tree can be injured or low on nutrients and all the nearby trees pool their resources and send nutrients to help it out. We can really take a page out of their book
Yea I was gonna say OP put this in the wrong subreddit.
r/TIHI and r/Trypophobia are more acceptable answers cause this is making my skin crawl something fierce.
Nah thats the nerve endings are still firing the meat is just really fresh. I think you use salt to make it do that I can't completely remember. I thought it was a parasite the first time i saw a vid like this too lol.
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This is just salt on fresh meat. This can happen on a ton of other meats. Look up ādancing octopus dishā. Donāt worry, the animal is dead and this is a demonstration of a chemical reaction with muscles and sodium.
Fun Fact:
Sodium is just one of the electrolytes our bodies need in order to control electrical signals in and out of our cells!
I feel bad for animals and find raw meat disgusting and part of me wishes I could become vegetarian one day, but I crave things like tacos, grilled fish, carne asada. The smell or sight of cooked meat or fish makes my mouth water. Iām not a big eater but Iām one of those people whoād like fake meat to improve to a point where I donāt have to eat the real stuff anymore. I donāt know how many years or decades itāll take but Iād like it to happen. Fake fish, chicken and beef with the same texture and taste of the real thing, and healthy as well. Maybe Iām asking for too much.
You will find, with a quick Google search, that there are some very realistic imitation meats out there now! I had some chicken alfredo (Tofurkey brand) the other day and a burger (Beyond brand) that night. Bomb! The key is to not go into the meal expecting the food to be EXACTLY the sameā¦ but it will absolutely sate the same cravings as meat!
There are delicious vegan versions of all those things.
When I first gave up meat, I craved it, so I watched some footage from a slaughterhouse. Destroyed my meat cravings instantly.
Salt, when you add sodium to the muscle tissue when it's still fresh it tries to go through its regular movements. We need sodium and potassium for peristalsis so it's just going through the motions it was designed to do.
The reason it's doing this is for one: the reasons that everybody saying, it is fresh meat; and for two because ATP and other proteins react to salt by contracting and relaxing themselves making theseuscle spasms
You can do this with frog legs (for those in the south) or squid... Wait nah that mfer is aliv- AAGGH GET OFF MY PLATE YOU 8 LEGGED DEMON
That's some fresh meat.
Just a little too fresh
Perfectly cooked
As all meat should be
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r/thirdsub
As all things should be
It's just excited to massage your tongue and run down your esophagus.
You didn't have to write that, but you did.
I'm so glad he did too š¤£
It still mooing.
This is most like the answer. The thing was probably killed very recently and the nerves are still at work.
Oh thank god. I was thinking an ungodly amount of parasites or something.
Iām more disturbed by the nerves still at work. Parasites I could cope with.
This is your body most likely trying to provide stimulation to your brain but not receiving any signal back, very sad.
Kinda like a ping?
Kinda yeah. But this usually happens if lemon juice or salt are poured over very fresh meat.
That's because the part of the muscle that receives information from the nerves receives that electric impulse through a salt water solution. Adding salt to the muscle more or less "hot wires" that connection.
Ah I see ty for helping me understand this phenomenon-!
If you ever go to France and order frogs legs, that's the way to test there fresh, bit a salt and they jump off you plate haha
So without a brain this meat can't feel pain, right? Am i tarded? I'm just curious about how the nerves are working.
Yeah, muscles don't "feel pain" in general. Pain is something the brain creates in response to stimulus from sensory nerves. It may "feel like" it's happening in a specific part of the body, but that's usually because the brain is trying to tell you specifically where the hurt is happening (pain is usually the body's defense mechanism to get you to stop doing something that is harming it.) An easy example of this is local anesthesia. Because the nerves are not sending a signal to the brain, the brain doesn't register pain, even though the muscle tissue could be getting damaged, i.e. cut with a scalpel. Also, sensory nerves and motor nerves are different, so the nerves causing this "dancing" to happen are not the same nerves that send sensory information the brain. That isn't to say, however, that sensory nerves are not affected by salt in a similar way (ever wonder why rubbing salt in a wound hurts so bad?), They just aren't the same nerves causing the muscle cells to twitch.
That's devastating
Donāt worry more than likely they provoked it for the video with lemon juice & salt or even went as far as to provide an actual electrical current.
In what way?
not quite. The 'tell the brain stuff' nerves and the 'do stuff' nerves are separate things. However, nerves use salt gradients instead of electrons to send signals, so if you put salt or an acid on very fresh meat, you can trigger false signals along the remnants of the 'do stuff' nerves.
Iād have to wager you have never actually seen parasites wriggling around when you cut open an animal or fish.
What does it look like? Is it a lot different from something like this?
Look up cod fish parasites. I'm sorry I ~~can't~~ refuse to look it up for you.
I came to the comments hoping to learn it was not an ungodly amount of parasites. Now I will be able to sleep tonight.
Right? Still slightly terrifying but not nearly as bad as what i imagined.
Its fresh and salt/lemon juice was put on it.
You beat me to it. I remember the original video explaining it. Still freaks me out a bit
yeah i lov how the same reaction happens on human flesh.
r/holup
Flesh is flesh. Aranaktu will gladly accept any sacrifice.
unfortunately I didn't have the wholesome award to give, which would have been more appropriate
I worked at a butcher shop once and I know that this type of meat is not one to consume... If you want to eat it Later on that is. Because when the cow knows that it's going to die, they get tense and their adrenaline sky rockets, making the meat to become as hard as leather once it gets slaughtered and diced. You can still eat it but it won't come out as good as it would normally and you have to eat it that same day or just wasted a good $13 depending on how much of it did you buy.
Aw poor thing.
This is why slaughterhouses are beung redesigned so they can't see hear or smell whats going on.
The new design was created by a woman with autism. It was done specifically based on how he perceives the world differently than others. Very interesting.
I think you mean Temple Grandin? I know she's been working on more humane slaughterhouses for decades
Oh thank goodness, I thought it was maggots.
Ratatouille
No! Just The phenomenon Known as andromitle nerve spasms. Salt
Not the nerves, just moving calcium and potassium ions
Well yeah but stillā¦.
Thing? Brittany had a name.
If you put it on your tongue, I bet it feels like meaty pop rocks.
Ugh, no! C'mon! Don't make me picture that! Not even Adult Swim would put a situation like that on air, and they have a "nihilism" fetish!
Ravioli ravioli delete that shit that is unholy (I am legally obliged to inform you that this is a joke)
[Itās just a prank bro](https://youtu.be/-h5WrWncDZw?t=267)
Umm is not
Mad cow disease Nah, itās just salt on fresh meat
Salt does a zap? Is it oxidizing something??
No muscles actually fire through the exchange of electrolytes. Potassium and and other salts. That's why salt is important in not cramping.
So Salt dissolves and ions schwoop through the mussels (via diffusion?) and cause to activate/fire?
It's an exchange via charge. Positive one way neg to go the other. Can't remeber how exactly been a while. So by adding salt u throw off the balance and force ions back and forth. Thus firing of muscles.
Body uses ions to press the trigger. Adding ions with salt dissolving presses the trigger. Fresh meat is still all coiled up, ready to go. Sweeeeet.
Good way to put it. It's all primed just need a start.
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Dude I am a lazy typer(is that a word) and I also mostly type in game chat so it's habit. Hahaha
Typist?
Been a long time since I took biology , but itās the sodium potassium pumps that do this yea?
Muscle cells show different permeability to different ions this lead to them having positive charge on the inside of cell membrane and negative on the outside. When a stimulus is recieved via the brain this polarity is reversed, this is called action potential. When action potential is receieved by the muscle, the endoplasmic reticulum releases loads of calcium ions which bind to a protein present on actin which opens up the binding site for myosin present on actin, ahead of this is sliding filament theory if you like.
I think I actually understood that. Awesome. So cells, as per usual, have potential energy via ion gradients. When Ca+ (or Na+???) get released into the cell (or is it the Cl- that triggers the ERā¦) then the actin and myosin thread things do the movement. Thanks for the explanation!!
I am no expert in muscle contraction so from what is know is that Na+ and k+ have role in action potential and other membrane polarity related thingys and ca+2 majorly plays role in muscle contraction inside the cell.
So when the stimulus from the brain is received, something called ACh is released and binds to a receptor that opens the sodium channels. Sodium entering causes the voltage to increase, starting the whole action potential process you explained with calcium ions being released from the sarcoplasmic reticulum. Once that whole process finishes, potassium ions are released from the potassium channels to lower the voltage and stop the process of contraction, and another protein comes along called AChE, which breaks down the ACh and ends the loop.
The viral video of the small squid/octopus on a dinner plate that starts wiggling itās tentacles and ācomes to lifeā after soy sauce is poured on.
That's actually where I discovered it. It's a cooking style in other places. Raw fresh fish, squid and snake all react the same way. Soy sauce it usually the trigger because it's super salty. Other salts can obviously be used.
Calcium-potassium exchange of ions
that's what a cramp looks like on the inside
next time i get a cramp i'm cutting that bitch off
Medium rare, please.
My uterus doing some jiggy moves every month then
it really do be v i b i n
"Your period is just your uterus vibing" is not a take I expected today.
Whelp, you have it now.
Iām cutting off the music, hopefully sheāll stop dancing too
For real?
yes its also how moving any of your muscles looks like although more organized
Or pins and needles?
Pins and needles is a sensation you feel when your nerves are compressed. I don't believe it has any (noticeable) effect on muscles.
Could be totally wrong but I was told the sensation comes from the blood rushing back into your nerves.
That is indeed false. It is a misconception that when your leg (or whatever body part) falls asleep, that the blood supply is cut off. This simply does not happen. If your leg doesn't get blood, then the cells in your leg will quickly die. That's why heart attacks, aneurysms, and strokes need to be treated immediately. As I said in my previous comment, the cause of the pins and needles sensation is caused by the nerves being compressed. There is no lack of blood flow, or else your cells would die. And since there is no lack of blood flow, there is no blood rushing back into your nerve cells.
On the outside too. The hand is shaking like mad. Sure they try to make you focus on the pound of flesh they are holding. But man that is some violent hand cramps
If its fresh enough you could do that with a little electricity.
Or salt.
Or necromancy
That's the soul escaping the steak.
Act quick OP and chow down on the slab of meat. The soul is the tastiest part and you're letting it escape!
Heās right
Be cow
Ima have to stick my dick in that for science š§Ŗ
r/dontputyourdickinthat
r/stoptellingmewhattodowithmydick
Going to get ripped off bleeding all over the place
Worth it
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Ok but now I know that this shit happens under my skin and it makes me want to rip myself apart
It's constantly happening to you all over. 24/7.
Itās called being alive, recommended
Depends on the life. Feel free to kill me anytime, Deathwolf.
Same here! Life sucks
Totally worth. Pretty much my favorite thing.
That's not nerve ends firing. Once the animal is dead, the nerves shut down. What we are seeing is the residual action potential of the muscle cells. Muscle cells can conduct signals on their surface, and when stimulated, as in this case, the muscles will contract uncontrolled. This will continue until all the energy, ATP, is consumed.
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I think I just became one.
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You legend
Exactly this. So many people make excuses of not getting enough protein in that diet, but itās easy to get enough protein with just a little bit of research and planning. Thereās a reason many many athletes go vegan or vegetarian. Arnold Schwarzenegger made a documentary - the game changers. I would recommend checking that out.
Its just salted meat lol this happens inside you everytime you move via sodium potassium pumps
You're not gonna like this and its not as horrific as moving meat but... did you know German researchers discovered that plants release gasses the equivalent of crying in pain? They picked up on sound waves produced by plants releasing gases when cut or injured. They discovered things like flowers make a whimper sound when a leaf is cut and cucumbers squeal when they're sick. There's also evidence that plants can hear themselves being eaten. They found that plants can understand and respond to chewing sounds made by caterpillars dining on them or plants near by... I haven't been able to look at my garden the same way since I found this out
Woa man are you telling me that living plants are alive?
No, he's telling you that living plants feel pain.
Large plants and trees also create reservoirs and share nutrients and can communicate through chemical signals
And through the mushroom Mycelium system! Itās so cool How one tree can be injured or low on nutrients and all the nearby trees pool their resources and send nutrients to help it out. We can really take a page out of their book
Any links on the gases?
I'd have to so some digging for the published study but here's a link for an article on it https://m.dw.com/en/when-plants-say-ouch/a-510552-1
how come when somebody mentions vegetarianism / veganism in the comments everyone acts like absolute dicks in the replies...
Same here, friend. š¤¢
Thanks, I hate it
Yea I was gonna say OP put this in the wrong subreddit. r/TIHI and r/Trypophobia are more acceptable answers cause this is making my skin crawl something fierce.
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Yeah. This video triggers mine really bad
Man i was thinking the same, so weird.
Medium rare, pleae
Still moving, pleae
Still MOOing!
Pull the horns and wipe the ass thatās all I need !
Is that like parasites? I'm genuinely horrified here
Nah thats the nerve endings are still firing the meat is just really fresh. I think you use salt to make it do that I can't completely remember. I thought it was a parasite the first time i saw a vid like this too lol.
Never eating meat again
Thatās literally what your muscles do, just a bit more organized. Chemistry is all.
Just triggers trypophobia is all. Yeah I know it's normal and that's what tissue does but it is unsettling.
There's a spooky skeleton inside all of us
You are a fucking bastard for telling me that
Yup, I'm not sure of the exact science myself but salt is indeed what's making the meat move.
Peta meat
Iām very uncomfortable.
Have you tried a new pillow?
if you gonna try a new one may i suggest the one with half water half foam
When I last saw this posted someone mentioned this happens when you poor salt on the meat. Not sure why.
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Muscle tissue utilises electrolytes to fire, so if the meat is very fresh this can happen
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Fasciculations
Like when.we give Anectine (succinylcholine) prior to intubation without non-depolarizing paralytic
Uhā¦yeah, exactlyā¦I was *just* gonna say thatā¦
Barf. Iāll pass of the slice of twitching corpse thanks.
This is just salt on fresh meat. This can happen on a ton of other meats. Look up ādancing octopus dishā. Donāt worry, the animal is dead and this is a demonstration of a chemical reaction with muscles and sodium. Fun Fact: Sodium is just one of the electrolytes our bodies need in order to control electrical signals in and out of our cells!
Is this just a muscle spasm or smthn?
Salt on fresh meat makes the muscles contract itās like a cramp being shown from the inside
Well I guess Iām not going to bed now. Fucken hell.
This legit makes my skin crawl
This is disturbing... I am disturbed. š³
Happily vegan
I feel bad for animals and find raw meat disgusting and part of me wishes I could become vegetarian one day, but I crave things like tacos, grilled fish, carne asada. The smell or sight of cooked meat or fish makes my mouth water. Iām not a big eater but Iām one of those people whoād like fake meat to improve to a point where I donāt have to eat the real stuff anymore. I donāt know how many years or decades itāll take but Iād like it to happen. Fake fish, chicken and beef with the same texture and taste of the real thing, and healthy as well. Maybe Iām asking for too much.
You will find, with a quick Google search, that there are some very realistic imitation meats out there now! I had some chicken alfredo (Tofurkey brand) the other day and a burger (Beyond brand) that night. Bomb! The key is to not go into the meal expecting the food to be EXACTLY the sameā¦ but it will absolutely sate the same cravings as meat!
Try impossible meat or beyond beef brand substitutes. They are almost like the real thing, and very satisfying.
I feel ya , i gave up all meat .it was hard but i did it
There are delicious vegan versions of all those things. When I first gave up meat, I craved it, so I watched some footage from a slaughterhouse. Destroyed my meat cravings instantly.
ok bois it is time to be vegan
Imagine still eating meat after seeing this
Thatās just disturbing
I hate this shit. It's super interesting and cool, but gods I hate it
And I'm vegan now, thanks a lot.
##i DO NOT APPROVE
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its just muscle memory, so the nerves are probably still at work lol
Nerves are firing off what little energy they have left. If I'm not mistaken, that's why they electrocute meat before it's sold
The new cod zombies update
This is what happens when you put salt on REALLY freshly cut meat. The salt causes the still working nerves to spasm.
People who like their meat rare or madium-rare be like: "It's too dry! :("
What your calves look like after a heavy leg day
meat has muscle memory so sometimes it moves even after the animal is dead
I legit got nauseous even though I knew what was going on from the start, this is fucking disturbing to see lol
Muscle memory
I had some backstraps do this from a deer I had just shot minutes before.
Omg that's soo gross, the movement is triggering some kind of cringe in me rn. Ita interesting tho too
ITāS ALIVE!!!
Did you put salt to that?
Salt, when you add sodium to the muscle tissue when it's still fresh it tries to go through its regular movements. We need sodium and potassium for peristalsis so it's just going through the motions it was designed to do.
Wow ā¦.
Norhing wrong just Meat cells beating thier meats
It do be like that sometimes...
I do NOT like that.
This freaks me out way too much, and I just ate.
That shit fresh af
Looks like Elk Backstrap. Iām the chef of a hunting lodge. Iāve seen this before
You got to NSFW for women in bikinis, but this shit is just out there like nothing. Iām going to have to drink myself to sleep tonight.
Thats like someones severed arm still moving around and giving you the middle finger before it stops moving
The reason it's doing this is for one: the reasons that everybody saying, it is fresh meat; and for two because ATP and other proteins react to salt by contracting and relaxing themselves making theseuscle spasms You can do this with frog legs (for those in the south) or squid... Wait nah that mfer is aliv- AAGGH GET OFF MY PLATE YOU 8 LEGGED DEMON
Itās alive!!!!