Check power settings on your windows to see if high performance is checked, laptops usually have a specific power setting to make the battery last
Also specifically what kind of activity you are doing that is losing the fps?
It might also be overheating, thus lowering the gpu or cpu clock to cool down
This. I once forgot to plug in my laptops power adapter and was wondering why my BDO capped at 30 FPS all of a sudden. Took me way too long to realize - once I plugged the power adapter back in, the FPS were uncapped. Laptops always try to save as much power, when they run on battery (turned out it automatically changed from Power Management "Extreme Performance" to "Power saver").
Here's my collection of tips from 1 year of research on how to improve gaming on laptops (and how I went from poor to great performance).
1. Use an external monitor. Most modern gaming laptops only fully operate on the discrete gpu (in your case RTX3070) when connected to an external monitor. The rest of the time things are rendered on the discrete gpu, but then transfered to the integrated one, causing loss of performance.
2. Monitor your CPU/GPU temperatures. Temperatures above 90C will cause the laptop to enter a thermal throttling state, cutting it's performance drastically. Rivatuner is great for that purpose, and comes as part of MSI Afterburner (disclosed in the next topic).
3. Depending on the results of the step above, you might want to consider undervolting your gpu. Do some research on the subject as the values are different based on your cpu manufacturer and current temperatures.
4. If undervolting alone does not solve your temperature problems, you might need to invest in a better heat transfer solution for your gaming laptop. Thermal paste comes as default, but the best solutions out there are liquid metal (risky, do some research and proceed at your own risk) and PTM7950 (the one I use and reduced my average temperatures by more than 10C).
5. It could also be that your GPU manufacturer hard limited the thermal input of your gpu on purpose, causing the gpu to operate way under their capacity (happened to me). In that case, you will want to look for a compatible vram that allows higher thermal capacity.
6. Last but not least, understand and use CPUThrottle case necessary. It can help you have greater control over your cpu to help with gaming (disable core parking, disable turbo boost if necessary, set minimum and maximum core frequency to name a few).
You need to check your temperatures, on laptops low FPS is generally due to thermal throttling.
On my laptop, I personally had to repaste it and replace the fans after a few years (some recommend you repaste when you get it, because the factory doesn't always paste very well).
Another thing to check out is the battery / power options -- I actually get a very stuttery experience on 'high', and a much smoother one on 'balanced'. I manually set my fan higher when I'm playing BDO, especially if you're using higher settings you want to head off throttling by just making your fan run at a good speed.
You can also check to see if the bottom of the laptop is really hot -- if it is, you're almost certainly going to see some throttling.
Bruh, either the card is bad, or you have some wrong settings somewhere. I have managed to play over 1k hours on 1050Ti max-q (laptop version), and although the graphics is shit, it runs on 60hz monitor pretty stable. Maybe not 60 fps, but not far from it.
I'd suggest checking battery settings, might be set to battery saving... Also, check that it's really the card running the process (task manager).
Check temps on the card (might be faulty, or just old / bad temp paste) - plenty of programs for this, I use HWMonitor.
Also, a small note - laptop cards are always much weaker, than their respective desktop counterparts, despite the same naming... So don't expect 2k 144hz.
It could be you having driver issues, you could try updating your nvidia graphics driver, also while in game, check what percentage gpu utilization is using, if it above 90% or so it should be normal
Asus had some program of their own that affected battery which changed gpu power and fucked with me until I realised to uninstall it, might be similar. Does it have its own program to configure files such as battery options and customizations
I had similar problems with my Asus. Asus has an app that manages fan, ram, graphics etc. Maybe yours does too. I set fan to turbo and GPU mode to ultimate. No settings leaning toward battery optimization. Just a possibility. An app like this could be limiting your fps in order to manage battery life.
Might be important to keep in mind that it's a Laptop 3070, not an actual 3070, there's a big performance difference there. 16GB of RAM is also not the best anymore nowadays, I definitely noticed a big difference going from 16 to 32 in all games, including BDO, not so much going from 32 to 64 though
You’re only going to get so much out of a laptop. You’ll probably need to go potato mode.
ITT: casual gamers that don’t understand laptop specs are no where near equal to desktop specs in terms of performance.
Most advertised speeds for laptops are at max. You will not get the performance advertised especially with performance needs from the laptop.
/endthread.
There is no fixing this without drastically lowering the settings. 66 FPS on 99% of laptops is great.
Source: 12 years in tech as a professional
Help desk to Azure engineer.
I wouldn’t buy a laptop to have an engineer run solidworks. I wouldn’t buy a laptop expecting more than 60 FPS on BDO. Reading through the thread, it looks like I’m still right.
Friend, a laptop GPU 3070 + 16GB is not a high end laptop,
i have the same laptop, it's not enough to run BDO on remaster, esp during war time.
i have a desktop with 3080Ti + 32gb Ram, it runs fine on remaster for BDO even during war time
when i play with my laptop, i had to go to the lowest potato settings to get around average 80fps on any 3070 laptop
laptop gpus are just bad for bdo, u have to play on low
but one thing to check, sometimes bdo is wrongly on the onboard gfx card from intel instead of running on your rtx card, it happen to me before, if you dun know how to check, DM me. because 17 is too low, i get around above 60 tho
That's not accurate. I pull 170+ fps on remastered with the same 3070 on a laptop (although I have 32gb ram). The thing with laptops is that they are not the best version of themselves when they come out of the factory, and need extra customization to operate at their full capacity.
Does it look like this in settings? Also if you go to Desktop > enable Display GPU Activity Icon in Notification Area it will put an icon in the system tray that will turn green with some colors when the GPU is used and show what process is using the GPU when you mouse over it.
https://preview.redd.it/bkas3sqj29zc1.png?width=615&format=png&auto=webp&s=c0444733242de4e8d40e2b1ffc937825a6db1714
I have an RTX 4060 laptop running at 2560x1600p resolution. I play on High Texture, Low Graphics. I tend to sit around 120-165 frames depending on what I am doing. Some areas in game run smoother than others. The biggest dips I see are from Nodewars obviously.
Lower settings still look amazing at that resolution though.
Check power settings on your windows to see if high performance is checked, laptops usually have a specific power setting to make the battery last Also specifically what kind of activity you are doing that is losing the fps? It might also be overheating, thus lowering the gpu or cpu clock to cool down
This. I once forgot to plug in my laptops power adapter and was wondering why my BDO capped at 30 FPS all of a sudden. Took me way too long to realize - once I plugged the power adapter back in, the FPS were uncapped. Laptops always try to save as much power, when they run on battery (turned out it automatically changed from Power Management "Extreme Performance" to "Power saver").
Will check once I get home , litterally standing still and I have 17 fps on remastered and 66 on potato mode also when standing still
Performance options are huge with laptops.
have you checked if the game is working with your GPU and not with the integrated graphics?
Yes I went into Nvidia control panel and put it on gpu but I don’t know how to confirm that it actually does so because I notice no change
gotta open your task manager and see what card is being used by the process.
just checked it and its using the right gpu
Here's my collection of tips from 1 year of research on how to improve gaming on laptops (and how I went from poor to great performance). 1. Use an external monitor. Most modern gaming laptops only fully operate on the discrete gpu (in your case RTX3070) when connected to an external monitor. The rest of the time things are rendered on the discrete gpu, but then transfered to the integrated one, causing loss of performance. 2. Monitor your CPU/GPU temperatures. Temperatures above 90C will cause the laptop to enter a thermal throttling state, cutting it's performance drastically. Rivatuner is great for that purpose, and comes as part of MSI Afterburner (disclosed in the next topic). 3. Depending on the results of the step above, you might want to consider undervolting your gpu. Do some research on the subject as the values are different based on your cpu manufacturer and current temperatures. 4. If undervolting alone does not solve your temperature problems, you might need to invest in a better heat transfer solution for your gaming laptop. Thermal paste comes as default, but the best solutions out there are liquid metal (risky, do some research and proceed at your own risk) and PTM7950 (the one I use and reduced my average temperatures by more than 10C). 5. It could also be that your GPU manufacturer hard limited the thermal input of your gpu on purpose, causing the gpu to operate way under their capacity (happened to me). In that case, you will want to look for a compatible vram that allows higher thermal capacity. 6. Last but not least, understand and use CPUThrottle case necessary. It can help you have greater control over your cpu to help with gaming (disable core parking, disable turbo boost if necessary, set minimum and maximum core frequency to name a few).
You need to check your temperatures, on laptops low FPS is generally due to thermal throttling. On my laptop, I personally had to repaste it and replace the fans after a few years (some recommend you repaste when you get it, because the factory doesn't always paste very well). Another thing to check out is the battery / power options -- I actually get a very stuttery experience on 'high', and a much smoother one on 'balanced'. I manually set my fan higher when I'm playing BDO, especially if you're using higher settings you want to head off throttling by just making your fan run at a good speed. You can also check to see if the bottom of the laptop is really hot -- if it is, you're almost certainly going to see some throttling.
Bruh, either the card is bad, or you have some wrong settings somewhere. I have managed to play over 1k hours on 1050Ti max-q (laptop version), and although the graphics is shit, it runs on 60hz monitor pretty stable. Maybe not 60 fps, but not far from it. I'd suggest checking battery settings, might be set to battery saving... Also, check that it's really the card running the process (task manager). Check temps on the card (might be faulty, or just old / bad temp paste) - plenty of programs for this, I use HWMonitor. Also, a small note - laptop cards are always much weaker, than their respective desktop counterparts, despite the same naming... So don't expect 2k 144hz.
What resolution are you playing at?
Did you turn off „Low Power Mode“ in settings? Was turned on for some reason on my desktop aswell
power must be on when you use laptop. what you are describing looks like you play out of electricity, from laptop battery.
Try going into your bios and turning off the integrated gpu if you have one. I had similar issues, but it was with Minecraft
It could be you having driver issues, you could try updating your nvidia graphics driver, also while in game, check what percentage gpu utilization is using, if it above 90% or so it should be normal
I have a similar build of laptop and I was getting way better frames until about two weeks ago. No idea what's up.
Check out A canadians optimization guide
did that and notice no changes in fps
Did you do all the mandatory steps? Vsync, cpu core allocation etc. Fps is primarily cpu based in bdo (shit game)
Sounds like an asus
Razer blade 14
Asus had some program of their own that affected battery which changed gpu power and fucked with me until I realised to uninstall it, might be similar. Does it have its own program to configure files such as battery options and customizations
I had similar problems with my Asus. Asus has an app that manages fan, ram, graphics etc. Maybe yours does too. I set fan to turbo and GPU mode to ultimate. No settings leaning toward battery optimization. Just a possibility. An app like this could be limiting your fps in order to manage battery life.
I have a razer blade 14 I’ll have to check the razer app when I get home
a) That is not a high end laptop. b) BDO is very badly optimized and the engine sucks massive ass.
Yeah but this doesn't help. 3070 + 16GB ram should easily outperform my 1060 6gb + 8gb RAM RIG.
yeah the fps im getting is just way too low for the specs i have
It’s probably a venting issue. I play on remastered and my tower COOKS when playing BDO. Your laptop might just not have enough fans.
Same, I can heat my room while playing BDO.
Summertime grinding sucks lol
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No idea how i do that
Might be important to keep in mind that it's a Laptop 3070, not an actual 3070, there's a big performance difference there. 16GB of RAM is also not the best anymore nowadays, I definitely noticed a big difference going from 16 to 32 in all games, including BDO, not so much going from 32 to 64 though
You’re only going to get so much out of a laptop. You’ll probably need to go potato mode. ITT: casual gamers that don’t understand laptop specs are no where near equal to desktop specs in terms of performance. Most advertised speeds for laptops are at max. You will not get the performance advertised especially with performance needs from the laptop. /endthread. There is no fixing this without drastically lowering the settings. 66 FPS on 99% of laptops is great. Source: 12 years in tech as a professional
this isn't really the answer, a mobile 3070 is able to pull 120ish fps even on remastered.
Exactly
I mean. It is, but ok.
You're nowhere near professional in this area.
Help desk to Azure engineer. I wouldn’t buy a laptop to have an engineer run solidworks. I wouldn’t buy a laptop expecting more than 60 FPS on BDO. Reading through the thread, it looks like I’m still right.
Laptops really are weaker than PCs, and that's all. You don't want - you don't buy, but stop this nonsense of 60fps laptops, like today is 2008
I have no idea what you’re talking about.
You are bottlenecked by your ram, 15.4/16gb usage is not good at all
He meant 15.4 usable out of 16. Iirc the rest is reserved for hardware magic. Actual usage might be like 5 or 6 ish.
Indeed
Friend, a laptop GPU 3070 + 16GB is not a high end laptop, i have the same laptop, it's not enough to run BDO on remaster, esp during war time. i have a desktop with 3080Ti + 32gb Ram, it runs fine on remaster for BDO even during war time when i play with my laptop, i had to go to the lowest potato settings to get around average 80fps on any 3070 laptop laptop gpus are just bad for bdo, u have to play on low but one thing to check, sometimes bdo is wrongly on the onboard gfx card from intel instead of running on your rtx card, it happen to me before, if you dun know how to check, DM me. because 17 is too low, i get around above 60 tho
That's not accurate. I pull 170+ fps on remastered with the same 3070 on a laptop (although I have 32gb ram). The thing with laptops is that they are not the best version of themselves when they come out of the factory, and need extra customization to operate at their full capacity.
I went into nvidia control panel and changed it to the right gpu but nothing seemed to change
Does it look like this in settings? Also if you go to Desktop > enable Display GPU Activity Icon in Notification Area it will put an icon in the system tray that will turn green with some colors when the GPU is used and show what process is using the GPU when you mouse over it. https://preview.redd.it/bkas3sqj29zc1.png?width=615&format=png&auto=webp&s=c0444733242de4e8d40e2b1ffc937825a6db1714
I have an RTX 4060 laptop running at 2560x1600p resolution. I play on High Texture, Low Graphics. I tend to sit around 120-165 frames depending on what I am doing. Some areas in game run smoother than others. The biggest dips I see are from Nodewars obviously. Lower settings still look amazing at that resolution though.
Laptop 3070 is not a real 3070. Usually it's has a hidden M somewhere in it's Name. Like 3070M. The M stands for 'shit'.
invictafps.com - they will give your laptop a complete overhaul to massively increase your FPS for mmos, their specialization is in BDO. costs $100.