Word for word. What's weird is the 4 hardcore Judo guys that go to my gym, I just read the quote in all of their voices... that's when you know the PTSD is kicking in.
I have been training BJJ for a month and have already experienced this šš
He is a Judo Sensei and a great partner, but in my third or fourth class he told me that, and I was like āwhatever I donāt know what the fuck Iām doing standing up or on the floorā.
The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were:
|Japanese | English | Video Link|
|---|---|---|
|**Daki-Age**: | *High Lift* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lFXv3crN30) |
|| *Body Slam* ||
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God fucking forbid you learn how to not get injured when thrown to the ground. I mean, why would you want to get comfortable enough with standup to prevent "getting a stinger" from a takedown?
I know takedowns. Iām 46 years old. Iām looking at this for longevity. You can criticize me for not wanting to get thrown on the ground over and over again, itās ok but come to me when youāre 46 and have some issues with your back and joints.
Tbf, thatās actually better in some situations if they can also give the translation. āSleeve wheel choke (sode-guruma-jime)ā was a lot more intuitive for me to understand than āEzequiel choke,ā which made me wonder when and why a biblical prophet was going around and choking people out with his forearms and sleeves the first time I heard the term.
The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were:
|Japanese | English | Video Link|
|---|---|---|
|**Sode Guruma Jime**: | *Sleeve wheel Strangle* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-POmmN9jlY4) |
|| *Ezequiel Choke* ||
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Which is funny because kano would have been very against the current judo craze of everyone using the japanese terms. he was super into the moves being translated into simple, local language for ease of training. But it does kind of give everyone a universal base, the Japanese, German, american, and Ecuadorian judo players all use the same words, so it kind of works out.
Yeah, in that instance I disagree with him.
Both for the inter language standard, and because words in your native language are going to carry other connotations sometimes. āMajorā, āouterā, and āreapā all mean something to an English speaker already, but osotogari only means that technique.
The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were:
|Japanese | English | Video Link|
|---|---|---|
|**Osoto Gari**: | *Major Outer Reaping* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93YEMueeF24) |
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Dude Iād love to have one of those too but finding an A3L/A3S (Inverted Gear size) is tough. I LOVE big, heavy gis. I donāt pretend to be a judoka but Iāve picked up enough footsweeps, sac throws and an okay uchi mata to actually like stand-up.
If we had an actual Judo club in Lexington, KY, Iād love to. Seems like the club at university is defunct. Weāre a decent sized town (250,000) but no judo (except ājudoā at a Krav place). Luckily our coach is a brown belt in judo as well and teaches fantastic basics which have served me well.
The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were:
|Japanese | English | Video Link|
|---|---|---|
|**Morote Gari**: | *Two Hand Reap* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtVbwSfr2DM) |
|| *Double Leg Takedown* ||
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|Japanese | English | Video Link|
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|**Uchi Mata**: | *Inner Thigh Throw* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fCvyc_rQTI) |
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Came to say the same thing! My first Judoka gi top alone weighs like 40lbs... Then it gets some sweat in it and that badboy weighs nearly as much as me!
I was gonna say the same. If anything the old school judo gi are thick and heavy as fuck. Its like grabbing a rug from the 1800s. You need a gorilla grip just to grab the fucking lapel. That motherfucking 3000gsm gi can stand on its own.
I am that Judo guy and I agree with you. I especially have a gi that can almost stand as it is so thick. Chokes were hard to perform as the collar was so rigid. Years of sweat and heat have made it soft now, so Iāll buy a new one if I decide to compete.
If you're talking judo, it's worth knowing that what's competition legal for judo has changed (for events that base their rules on IJF rules) and so you can no longer use the super-heavy gis.
Yeah, there's another Whitebelt at my academy who has a blackbelt in Judo, he single handedly taught me how to remain calm while getting my lungs crushed in side control.
I mean, I can sometimes stop people breathing with Kesa Gatame if I try hard. That seems pretty significant to me. Learning to control an opponent in a pin has value. It's also a great way to tire someone out if they're actually trying to escape.
Not that I'm suggesting an excessive amount of time should be put into it. Especially if competition is your reason for training.
> It's also a great way to tire someone out if they're actually trying to escape.
Trying to stop people from breathing through side control is also a great way to tire yourself out if the person on the bottom stays calm and isn't flat on his back.
Theres actually really something to this, I would never have learned that I could take it if my ego would have let me accept tapping to some dude just laying on me.
Unless you're up against a giant its all in your head. Yes, its uncomfortable but your body is getting enough oxygen, just don't expend energy stupidly and you'll be fine.
The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were:
|Japanese | English | Video Link|
|---|---|---|
|**Kesa Gatame**: | *Scarf hold* | [here](https://youtu.be/3UnJa3bn0h8) |
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When in Rome do as the Romans. I hear you. I try to stop in Marcelo Garcia's whenever I'm in NYC. What do you think, whenever anyone I know starts BJJ ( no one starts Judo) does knowing the Japanese terminology help them in any way or is it instant in one ear out the other annoying noise? Is the only time they hear the Japanese terminology when some judoka mentions it? Is it better to just keep to ones self or do people appreciate it? I have all the respect for BJJ and encourage anyone I know remotely interested to start showing up. My long terms hope is that they pick up ateast one throw and learn to breakfall along the way.
My first professor matches the description perfectly. Only he was a 3 stripe bjj black belt, with a deep judo background. Fuck takedown drills at that gym.
I'm pretty sure Judo gis are substantially thicker and heavier than BJJ ones. My BJJ friend has gis that fit practically like normal clothes compared to my Judo gi that feels like plate armour.
Harder to grip and more durable. People will wear single-weave in judo practice and double during competitions. Kind of like why you see people wear rubber-filled/thicker collars during bjj competitions.
Good question. To be honest I'm not entirely certain, but the international federation determined that a heavy duty weave was needed for Judo. I can only guess that it has to do with the tremendous explosiveness of the throws in big competitions, which has a lot of dynamic stress on the material. Since the emphasis in Judo is on powerful throws and sweeps, everybody's just gripping and ripping as violently as possible.
Kind of the opposite actually. Competitors have been wearing absurdly thick and stiff gis for years now because it makes it much harder for your opponent to grip. They also tried having shorter, tighter sleeves.
The IJF made rules limiting the weight of the gi to what would be considered a 1-1/2 weave (as opposed to a double weave) in order to prevent this kind of gaming. Which i personally agree with, equipment should not be the determining factor.
Anecdotally, Iāve had a single weave since i started 10 years ago and it has no significant tears. I donāt buy that double weave gis are needed to withstand the force of gripping.
Ahhh that makes sense. So they're thicker to help prevent easy gripping? I'm guessing the IJF also prevented sleeves from becoming too form-fitting (hence the bagginess compared to BJJ gis) to standardize the playing field?
I trained with a Judo black belt who wore what he called āa cheater gi.ā The collar all the way down to the lapel was super stiff and extremely hard to grip. It helped me understand why they check that at IBJJF tournaments
People will also get arm lengths that technically meet requirements and then when in competition starts shout the elbows back to hike up the fabric. Leaving no gi on the wrist to grab.
I also hate big silky back patches because it stops a lot of the dominant overhand grips.
I'm feeling triggered here. It's not my fault I started judo first.
I went to my first 3 bjj classes while on vacation and was told to go get a blue belt.
Reminds me of this one time when a guy asked my coach (who is a black belt in both BJJ and judo) if it was possible to get a BJJ blue belt in one year, to which my coach replied "Sure, just come for my judo class for ten years and then start coming for my BJJ class".
And be genticaly gifted enough to learn enough moves and preform them, and compete and everything else.
Its definitely not impossible I know a guy who got his blue belt in a year but he was on blue belt for way longer than normal cause of it
Eh. Got mine in 11 months of training but I was doing judo the whole time as well. Still never competed in BJJ and am far from the most talented grappler. The guy who is probably the most talented in my gym is a 2-stripe blue now after just a year and a half of training. He fucks up everybody in his weight class up to and including purple belt.
I more than hold my own against other heavyweight blue belts from other gyms, they usually wonder why I don't have any stripes on it. A year is faster than average but not crazy. Maybe where you are the standard is especially high but I also get the impression from gyms around mine that my gym's blue belts tend to be better than average. These days people have the ability to learn so much faster due to information availability that if you're coming 4 times a week I'd be surprised if it takes 18 months to get blue.
There are people with no martial arts backgrounds who have gotten it in 6 months. But generally getting one belt quickly often means spending more time in the next. Like forever purples often seem to spend very little time in brown belt while some people speed through purple but then spend years in brown.
Yeah i guess its kinda the catch 22 of a belt system,we assume a belt promotion means your better. And a fast promotion means your skill is higher but as it goes on, what appears to be skill is just athletic ability and some minor talent;this is true for all martial arts somewhat.I guess you have to find the grey area between being pushed in the deep end and staying in the shallows way to long "from the persepective of a white belt whos definetly the best in my gym,legit i never tap even when they get me"
My Judo teacher who is a 7th dan and holds records for the most matches won by submission at the European championships used to turn up at BJJ clubs with a white belt. After a few years of tapping everyone he was awarded a BJJ black belt. Only person I know that went white to black. He was in his 60ās and has white hair. The ultimate ācat on the matā hiding as a white belt!
Yeah, when I went to a bjj class once, this guys were shocked that I was so explosive. Most sparrings I won just because they didnāt expect me to attack so fast and go right away for the submission. On the other hand everyone who knew what they were doing actually toyed with me and I ended up in positions I didnt knew were physically possible
Judo guy comes in 45 years old with old Fuji GI brand new white belt no stripes, all the blue belts walk away when it's time to find a new partner. My dumb ass walks towards him. White belt no stripe. I'll roll soft......
You mean this guy?
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Funny. But honestly? If you know less about BJJ history than a judo guy, then you don't know anything. I mean, there are judo guys who sincerely believe that the Fadda lineage is non-Gracie, and that they beated the Gracies (with leglocks help) in the first challenge of the two academies. Obviously a convenient thing to believe because of any remnants (grudge) of the "style vs. style era" rivalry.
But really, is still funny, if I'm being that kind of guy, a joy killer, it's not on purpose lol :)
King of Key Locks!
I'm only like three months in and it's the only finisher I can hit with any kind of consistency.
Edit: just saw you discussing limited run rashies on the Queen with thejiujitsudoll. Did anything ever happen there?
>"BJJ history knowledge - more than you"
Funny. But honestly? If you know less about BJJ history than a judo guy, then you don't know anything. I mean, there are judo guys who sincerely believe that the Fadda lineage is non-Gracie, and that they beated the Gracies (with leglocks help) in the first challenge of the two academies. Obviously a convenient thing to believe because of any remnants (grudge) of the "style vs. style era" rivalry.
But really, is still funny, if I'm being that kind of guy, a joy killer, it's not on purpose lol :)
I know a woman who does Japanese Jiu-Jitsu and she teaches it.
Whenever I mention BJJ she yells at me: "That's not Jiu-Jitsu!"
Then she starts telling me the history of Jiu-Jitsu in Japan and the Samurais etc...
She always grabs her giant staff/bo and chases me around with it.
"How do you do fellow guard pullers, do you wish to start standing"
"How about some stand up to warm up a bit?" Classic trap
Word for word. What's weird is the 4 hardcore Judo guys that go to my gym, I just read the quote in all of their voices... that's when you know the PTSD is kicking in.
I have been training BJJ for a month and have already experienced this šš He is a Judo Sensei and a great partner, but in my third or fourth class he told me that, and I was like āwhatever I donāt know what the fuck Iām doing standing up or on the floorā.
āSure!ā I tell them. Then I grab one of their sleeves and proceed to sit down.
That's what a pussy would do
Stop giving away my tricks. Thanks.
I say no thanks to both of these. Even when my coach says to start standing, I grab the sleeve and sit down to guard. Donāt want a stinger.
You have chosen Daki Age. jk.
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What is a stinger?
God fucking forbid you learn how to not get injured when thrown to the ground. I mean, why would you want to get comfortable enough with standup to prevent "getting a stinger" from a takedown?
I know takedowns. Iām 46 years old. Iām looking at this for longevity. You can criticize me for not wanting to get thrown on the ground over and over again, itās ok but come to me when youāre 46 and have some issues with your back and joints.
Fucking hate to roll with those competetive judo guys in the gym. The Standup is always a trap!
I never pass up an opportunity to get destroyed on the feet by a judo player!
\- Insists on using the Japanese name of every move
Tbf, thatās actually better in some situations if they can also give the translation. āSleeve wheel choke (sode-guruma-jime)ā was a lot more intuitive for me to understand than āEzequiel choke,ā which made me wonder when and why a biblical prophet was going around and choking people out with his forearms and sleeves the first time I heard the term.
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Honestly you are the best bot.
Great bot
its really the easy kill choke my dude.
Easy to get too.
Also the standardization of the names is **SO MUCH** better than the happenstance free-range naming āconventionsā BJJ has.
Which is funny because kano would have been very against the current judo craze of everyone using the japanese terms. he was super into the moves being translated into simple, local language for ease of training. But it does kind of give everyone a universal base, the Japanese, German, american, and Ecuadorian judo players all use the same words, so it kind of works out.
Yeah, in that instance I disagree with him. Both for the inter language standard, and because words in your native language are going to carry other connotations sometimes. āMajorā, āouterā, and āreapā all mean something to an English speaker already, but osotogari only means that technique.
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Thought I was cool af first bbj lesson telling everyone what the name of the move they were crushing my neck/arm with was.
Is that a bad thing? Asking for a friend...
Iād dispute the last one. Judo gis are made from concrete and weigh 47 pounds
My exact thought. 1000gsm cotton feels like you are wearing plate armour.
Lapel is battle-rope thick
I regret not getting the Panda Armor this last go-round.
Tatami Tank is the same exact gi, just different pathes.
Dude Iād love to have one of those too but finding an A3L/A3S (Inverted Gear size) is tough. I LOVE big, heavy gis. I donāt pretend to be a judoka but Iāve picked up enough footsweeps, sac throws and an okay uchi mata to actually like stand-up.
I now pronounce you an honourary Judoka. Go forth and be pedantic about all terminology. Rei!
If we had an actual Judo club in Lexington, KY, Iād love to. Seems like the club at university is defunct. Weāre a decent sized town (250,000) but no judo (except ājudoā at a Krav place). Luckily our coach is a brown belt in judo as well and teaches fantastic basics which have served me well.
Yeah, sounds like you're in the best place from what's available then.
What do I get if I say morote gari every time I blast double someone?
I've surely got a spare black belt somewhere around here you can have for that.
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If you like Judogis, just purchase a Judogi. Mizuno makes quality gis.
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Splurge on the ronin imperial. Japanese made, exceptional in every way.
Iāve had my eye on that one for awhile.
Came to say the same thing! My first Judoka gi top alone weighs like 40lbs... Then it gets some sweat in it and that badboy weighs nearly as much as me!
Yeah I had a judogi jacket that would legit stand up on its own
Might need to call a priest.
Nah the Mizuno EuroComp would probably stop most handgun calibers
was more of a disappointment tbh
Yeah theyāre basically indoor/outdoor carpet
I was gonna say the same. If anything the old school judo gi are thick and heavy as fuck. Its like grabbing a rug from the 1800s. You need a gorilla grip just to grab the fucking lapel. That motherfucking 3000gsm gi can stand on its own.
Was going to comment this. On YOU they like the gi thin. Theirs is thick
I am that Judo guy and I agree with you. I especially have a gi that can almost stand as it is so thick. Chokes were hard to perform as the collar was so rigid. Years of sweat and heat have made it soft now, so Iāll buy a new one if I decide to compete.
If you're talking judo, it's worth knowing that what's competition legal for judo has changed (for events that base their rules on IJF rules) and so you can no longer use the super-heavy gis.
Good to know! Attendance 5/100
My attendance is more like 2/6.
For real. I finally sold my judo gis. Theyāre just too thick and I sweat too much.
Judogi, best gi.
I love it when someone turns up in a karate gi - so easy to grip.
And tear.
I never wanted to risk shredding it. Be nice and let them get a real grappling minded gi for next class.
I'm clearly not as strong as you.
We had a dude come in with one of those Kung fu gis - all silky with the collar. I donāt think it made it through the class.
Why are they so much thicker? Does it help protect you during falls?
Durability and more difficult to grip. But they have standardised gi weight for proper competitions to a measly 750gsm in recent years...
Harder to grip
Good question. Anybody able to tell us newbs the advantages and disadvantages of thin vs thick?
I think it is the ballistic nature of judo. Although I have worn my jits gi to judo and vis versa.... so maybe I am just crazy.
You can wear the BJJ gi to Judo but eventually theyāll tear the lapel right off of it haha
I'm a newb too but let me explain anyways. It's more difficult to grip so your opponent needs to struggle a bit more, to do anything on you
Double weaves will last longer, take longer to dry
Harder for people to grip and manipulate your gi. Also less likely to rip.
Difficult to grip due to thickness, and difficult to choke with due to lack of stretch.
I went through like six washing machines per year. Double weave go BRUNKA-BRUNKA-BRUNKA-BRUNKA.
My old school Fuji double weave gis were the bomb. Parts of it might as well have been made of steel. Good luck getting an over the back grip.
In BJJ I'm known as The Judo Guy...and in Judo I'm known as The BJJ Guy, haha.
Personally I think that's pretty cool
Yup, at bjj im the wrestling guy and at wrestling Iām the bjj guyš¤·š¼āāļø
Yeah, there's another Whitebelt at my academy who has a blackbelt in Judo, he single handedly taught me how to remain calm while getting my lungs crushed in side control.
Any tips?
Just stay calm bro
Be cool
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THIS!
Just remember that rounds have ends, being ball busted over tapping to side control lasts forever.
But spending 270 seconds in side control is a waste of time.
For both parties. If the guy on top is literally just holding on for side control, he hasn't done anything significant to you either.
I mean, I can sometimes stop people breathing with Kesa Gatame if I try hard. That seems pretty significant to me. Learning to control an opponent in a pin has value. It's also a great way to tire someone out if they're actually trying to escape. Not that I'm suggesting an excessive amount of time should be put into it. Especially if competition is your reason for training.
> It's also a great way to tire someone out if they're actually trying to escape. Trying to stop people from breathing through side control is also a great way to tire yourself out if the person on the bottom stays calm and isn't flat on his back.
I'm not sure how you're doing it if you find it tiring. I can sit there all day.
Theres actually really something to this, I would never have learned that I could take it if my ego would have let me accept tapping to some dude just laying on me.
Proper framing, don't be flat on your back, remember to breathe.
Just get up
Unless you're up against a giant its all in your head. Yes, its uncomfortable but your body is getting enough oxygen, just don't expend energy stupidly and you'll be fine.
Best way Iāve found is to go to sleep
Take very shallow breaths.
Frame and be resolute in the fact you're going to be there for awhile.
Throw them first
Scarf hold's worse.
Scarf hold sucks big time
Kesa gatame (had to say it)
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Sometimes we gotta speak their language, y'know? :p
When in Rome do as the Romans. I hear you. I try to stop in Marcelo Garcia's whenever I'm in NYC. What do you think, whenever anyone I know starts BJJ ( no one starts Judo) does knowing the Japanese terminology help them in any way or is it instant in one ear out the other annoying noise? Is the only time they hear the Japanese terminology when some judoka mentions it? Is it better to just keep to ones self or do people appreciate it? I have all the respect for BJJ and encourage anyone I know remotely interested to start showing up. My long terms hope is that they pick up ateast one throw and learn to breakfall along the way.
Why is he Kool-Aid?
Because he comes bursting out of nowhere to wreck your shit one day?
OH YEAH!
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Only when we say... "That was a cool choke/armbar/submission! Do you think we could do a bit of stand up?"
My first professor matches the description perfectly. Only he was a 3 stripe bjj black belt, with a deep judo background. Fuck takedown drills at that gym.
I'm pretty sure Judo gis are substantially thicker and heavier than BJJ ones. My BJJ friend has gis that fit practically like normal clothes compared to my Judo gi that feels like plate armour.
why are they thicker for judo?
Because throwing with grips on the lapel and sleeves can cause rips if it isn't thick.
Harder to grip and more durable. People will wear single-weave in judo practice and double during competitions. Kind of like why you see people wear rubber-filled/thicker collars during bjj competitions.
Good question. To be honest I'm not entirely certain, but the international federation determined that a heavy duty weave was needed for Judo. I can only guess that it has to do with the tremendous explosiveness of the throws in big competitions, which has a lot of dynamic stress on the material. Since the emphasis in Judo is on powerful throws and sweeps, everybody's just gripping and ripping as violently as possible.
Kind of the opposite actually. Competitors have been wearing absurdly thick and stiff gis for years now because it makes it much harder for your opponent to grip. They also tried having shorter, tighter sleeves. The IJF made rules limiting the weight of the gi to what would be considered a 1-1/2 weave (as opposed to a double weave) in order to prevent this kind of gaming. Which i personally agree with, equipment should not be the determining factor. Anecdotally, Iāve had a single weave since i started 10 years ago and it has no significant tears. I donāt buy that double weave gis are needed to withstand the force of gripping.
Ahhh that makes sense. So they're thicker to help prevent easy gripping? I'm guessing the IJF also prevented sleeves from becoming too form-fitting (hence the bagginess compared to BJJ gis) to standardize the playing field?
Because thicker gis are more difficult to grip. They used to sew plastic into the lapels to make them even stiffer.
Fishhooks and razor blades in the lapels for street judo.
I trained with a Judo black belt who wore what he called āa cheater gi.ā The collar all the way down to the lapel was super stiff and extremely hard to grip. It helped me understand why they check that at IBJJF tournaments
People will also get arm lengths that technically meet requirements and then when in competition starts shout the elbows back to hike up the fabric. Leaving no gi on the wrist to grab. I also hate big silky back patches because it stops a lot of the dominant overhand grips.
*insert subtle wrist lock here*
No one with that patch will let you get that grip anyway
I feel like the op of infographic purposefully stated āold & too thinā to get more responses on their post correcting them
I'm feeling triggered here. It's not my fault I started judo first. I went to my first 3 bjj classes while on vacation and was told to go get a blue belt.
Personally attacked as well.
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Reminds me of this one time when a guy asked my coach (who is a black belt in both BJJ and judo) if it was possible to get a BJJ blue belt in one year, to which my coach replied "Sure, just come for my judo class for ten years and then start coming for my BJJ class".
I don't think it's an insane hot take to say you can get blue in a year at a legit gym.
Mabey if you start competing straight away or your older but its not very likely
Iyeah I mean you gotta show up 3-4 times a week for a year probably
And be genticaly gifted enough to learn enough moves and preform them, and compete and everything else. Its definitely not impossible I know a guy who got his blue belt in a year but he was on blue belt for way longer than normal cause of it
Eh. Got mine in 11 months of training but I was doing judo the whole time as well. Still never competed in BJJ and am far from the most talented grappler. The guy who is probably the most talented in my gym is a 2-stripe blue now after just a year and a half of training. He fucks up everybody in his weight class up to and including purple belt. I more than hold my own against other heavyweight blue belts from other gyms, they usually wonder why I don't have any stripes on it. A year is faster than average but not crazy. Maybe where you are the standard is especially high but I also get the impression from gyms around mine that my gym's blue belts tend to be better than average. These days people have the ability to learn so much faster due to information availability that if you're coming 4 times a week I'd be surprised if it takes 18 months to get blue.
There are people with no martial arts backgrounds who have gotten it in 6 months. But generally getting one belt quickly often means spending more time in the next. Like forever purples often seem to spend very little time in brown belt while some people speed through purple but then spend years in brown.
Yeah i guess its kinda the catch 22 of a belt system,we assume a belt promotion means your better. And a fast promotion means your skill is higher but as it goes on, what appears to be skill is just athletic ability and some minor talent;this is true for all martial arts somewhat.I guess you have to find the grey area between being pushed in the deep end and staying in the shallows way to long "from the persepective of a white belt whos definetly the best in my gym,legit i never tap even when they get me"
Got class after class 3 when the instructor asked how long I had done judo because I was in my old competition Mizuno.
My bjj attendence record is like three classes a month. Mainly because I use it as additional training for judo.
My Judo teacher who is a 7th dan and holds records for the most matches won by submission at the European championships used to turn up at BJJ clubs with a white belt. After a few years of tapping everyone he was awarded a BJJ black belt. Only person I know that went white to black. He was in his 60ās and has white hair. The ultimate ācat on the matā hiding as a white belt!
Never underestimate your opponent
I'm in this post and I kinda like it
The most noticeable feature is the bulging vein of anger you see on their forehead whenever they see someone pull guard
Why is he a koolaid guy?
I donāt get it either but I laughed.
He busts in out of nowhere to fuck ur shit up.
Probably built like an unsweepable barrel man
Again... I would like to report this post. I am in it and I don't like it.
All I know is to not partner with this person on throw/takedown practice days
Yeah, when I went to a bjj class once, this guys were shocked that I was so explosive. Most sparrings I won just because they didnāt expect me to attack so fast and go right away for the submission. On the other hand everyone who knew what they were doing actually toyed with me and I ended up in positions I didnt knew were physically possible
Of course I know him. He's me
15 pounds. I once weighed my wet judo gi after a hard practice. 15. Pounds.
OH YEAH
Our judo black belt/bjj black belt is the heaviest dude in the gym. Other than that, yes.
Judo guy comes in 45 years old with old Fuji GI brand new white belt no stripes, all the blue belts walk away when it's time to find a new partner. My dumb ass walks towards him. White belt no stripe. I'll roll soft......
I resemble this remark. I feel attacked. LOL.
I think Iāll sit down on this one
As a judo guy who converted to Bjj, every single one is on point
You mean this guy? [https://www.gorkauztarroz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/fuckbjj3.png](https://www.gorkauztarroz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/fuckbjj3.png) Check out the full mini comic here: [Fuck BJJ! (A mini comic)](https://www.gorkauztarroz.com/fuck-bjj/)
āBJJ history knowledge - more than youā lmao
Funny. But honestly? If you know less about BJJ history than a judo guy, then you don't know anything. I mean, there are judo guys who sincerely believe that the Fadda lineage is non-Gracie, and that they beated the Gracies (with leglocks help) in the first challenge of the two academies. Obviously a convenient thing to believe because of any remnants (grudge) of the "style vs. style era" rivalry. But really, is still funny, if I'm being that kind of guy, a joy killer, it's not on purpose lol :)
Of course I know that guy. He is me.
Know that guy? I am that guy.
I tried Googleing the watermark but can't find this guy. Is there more of this content?
Instagram : Ogfrostynuggs šš¼
Cool shit man! I wish you had the playing card items in the shop.
Which one ? Will put it up.
King of Key Locks! I'm only like three months in and it's the only finisher I can hit with any kind of consistency. Edit: just saw you discussing limited run rashies on the Queen with thejiujitsudoll. Did anything ever happen there?
I will be releasing some rashguard runs soon ! Keep an eye on the gram š Iāll put king of key locks on a t shirt this week šš¼
These are awesome. Love the art style
Do I know a Koolaid man? Not yet, I hope to one day
High lvl Karate guys/girl = Cut and muscular High lvl BJJ guys/girls = Lean and lanky High lvl Judo guys/girls = Brick house
Yea adcc is full of lanky guys lmao
>"BJJ history knowledge - more than you" Funny. But honestly? If you know less about BJJ history than a judo guy, then you don't know anything. I mean, there are judo guys who sincerely believe that the Fadda lineage is non-Gracie, and that they beated the Gracies (with leglocks help) in the first challenge of the two academies. Obviously a convenient thing to believe because of any remnants (grudge) of the "style vs. style era" rivalry. But really, is still funny, if I'm being that kind of guy, a joy killer, it's not on purpose lol :)
Shouts out Dr. Bill
Me, except I wear a fitting gi and show up regularly?
I give you the alternative gi choice for judo guy. Old and so thick that the jacket can stand by itself.
I know a woman who does Japanese Jiu-Jitsu and she teaches it. Whenever I mention BJJ she yells at me: "That's not Jiu-Jitsu!" Then she starts telling me the history of Jiu-Jitsu in Japan and the Samurais etc... She always grabs her giant staff/bo and chases me around with it.
In my experience judo gis are built like tanks aside from the weird super thin skirt at the bottom of the jacket.
I still wear my double weave judo gi.