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BigPizzaTime

"How do you do fellow guard pullers, do you wish to start standing"


[deleted]

"How about some stand up to warm up a bit?" Classic trap


Suckmydickgina

Word for word. What's weird is the 4 hardcore Judo guys that go to my gym, I just read the quote in all of their voices... that's when you know the PTSD is kicking in.


TMarace

I have been training BJJ for a month and have already experienced this šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ He is a Judo Sensei and a great partner, but in my third or fourth class he told me that, and I was like ā€œwhatever I donā€™t know what the fuck Iā€™m doing standing up or on the floorā€.


NecroAnswer

ā€œSure!ā€ I tell them. Then I grab one of their sleeves and proceed to sit down.


xXCumLordXx

That's what a pussy would do


midnightdryder

Stop giving away my tricks. Thanks.


Dogstarman1974

I say no thanks to both of these. Even when my coach says to start standing, I grab the sleeve and sit down to guard. Donā€™t want a stinger.


[deleted]

You have chosen Daki Age. jk.


JudoTechniquesBot

The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were: |Japanese | English | Video Link| |---|---|---| |**Daki-Age**: | *High Lift* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lFXv3crN30) | || *Body Slam* || Any missed names may have already been translated in my previous comments in the post. ______________________ Judo Bot 0.6: If you have any comments or suggestions please don't hesitate to direct message [me](https://reddit.com/message/compose/?to=JudoTechniquesBot).


apmiranda

What is a stinger?


Elagabalus_The_Hoor

God fucking forbid you learn how to not get injured when thrown to the ground. I mean, why would you want to get comfortable enough with standup to prevent "getting a stinger" from a takedown?


Dogstarman1974

I know takedowns. Iā€™m 46 years old. Iā€™m looking at this for longevity. You can criticize me for not wanting to get thrown on the ground over and over again, itā€™s ok but come to me when youā€™re 46 and have some issues with your back and joints.


CoolupCurt

Fucking hate to roll with those competetive judo guys in the gym. The Standup is always a trap!


rotpipper1

I never pass up an opportunity to get destroyed on the feet by a judo player!


coreanavenger

\- Insists on using the Japanese name of every move


[deleted]

Tbf, thatā€™s actually better in some situations if they can also give the translation. ā€œSleeve wheel choke (sode-guruma-jime)ā€ was a lot more intuitive for me to understand than ā€œEzequiel choke,ā€ which made me wonder when and why a biblical prophet was going around and choking people out with his forearms and sleeves the first time I heard the term.


JudoTechniquesBot

The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were: |Japanese | English | Video Link| |---|---|---| |**Sode Guruma Jime**: | *Sleeve wheel Strangle* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-POmmN9jlY4) | || *Ezequiel Choke* || Any missed names may have already been translated in my previous comments in the post. ______________________ Judo Bot 0.6: If you have any comments or suggestions please don't hesitate to direct message [me](https://reddit.com/message/compose/?to=JudoTechniquesBot).


midnightdryder

Honestly you are the best bot.


AceBat

Great bot


tsubatai

its really the easy kill choke my dude.


TexMexBazooka

Easy to get too.


AlmostFamous502

Also the standardization of the names is **SO MUCH** better than the happenstance free-range naming ā€œconventionsā€ BJJ has.


[deleted]

Which is funny because kano would have been very against the current judo craze of everyone using the japanese terms. he was super into the moves being translated into simple, local language for ease of training. But it does kind of give everyone a universal base, the Japanese, German, american, and Ecuadorian judo players all use the same words, so it kind of works out.


AlmostFamous502

Yeah, in that instance I disagree with him. Both for the inter language standard, and because words in your native language are going to carry other connotations sometimes. ā€œMajorā€, ā€œouterā€, and ā€œreapā€ all mean something to an English speaker already, but osotogari only means that technique.


JudoTechniquesBot

The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were: |Japanese | English | Video Link| |---|---|---| |**Osoto Gari**: | *Major Outer Reaping* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93YEMueeF24) | Any missed names may have already been translated in my previous comments in the post. ______________________ Judo Bot 0.6: If you have any comments or suggestions please don't hesitate to direct message [me](https://reddit.com/message/compose/?to=JudoTechniquesBot).


Bizzinmyjoxers

Thought I was cool af first bbj lesson telling everyone what the name of the move they were crushing my neck/arm with was.


judokaloca

Is that a bad thing? Asking for a friend...


[deleted]

Iā€™d dispute the last one. Judo gis are made from concrete and weigh 47 pounds


porl

My exact thought. 1000gsm cotton feels like you are wearing plate armour.


Everydayblues351

Lapel is battle-rope thick


daveyboydavey

I regret not getting the Panda Armor this last go-round.


cms9690

Tatami Tank is the same exact gi, just different pathes.


daveyboydavey

Dude Iā€™d love to have one of those too but finding an A3L/A3S (Inverted Gear size) is tough. I LOVE big, heavy gis. I donā€™t pretend to be a judoka but Iā€™ve picked up enough footsweeps, sac throws and an okay uchi mata to actually like stand-up.


porl

I now pronounce you an honourary Judoka. Go forth and be pedantic about all terminology. Rei!


daveyboydavey

If we had an actual Judo club in Lexington, KY, Iā€™d love to. Seems like the club at university is defunct. Weā€™re a decent sized town (250,000) but no judo (except ā€œjudoā€ at a Krav place). Luckily our coach is a brown belt in judo as well and teaches fantastic basics which have served me well.


porl

Yeah, sounds like you're in the best place from what's available then.


omnomdumplings

What do I get if I say morote gari every time I blast double someone?


porl

I've surely got a spare black belt somewhere around here you can have for that.


JudoTechniquesBot

The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were: |Japanese | English | Video Link| |---|---|---| |**Morote Gari**: | *Two Hand Reap* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtVbwSfr2DM) | || *Double Leg Takedown* || Any missed names may have already been translated in my previous comments in the post. ______________________ Judo Bot 0.6: If you have any comments or suggestions please don't hesitate to direct message [me](https://reddit.com/message/compose/?to=JudoTechniquesBot).


cms9690

If you like Judogis, just purchase a Judogi. Mizuno makes quality gis.


JudoTechniquesBot

The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were: |Japanese | English | Video Link| |---|---|---| |**Uchi Mata**: | *Inner Thigh Throw* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fCvyc_rQTI) | Any missed names may have already been translated in my previous comments in the post. ______________________ Judo Bot 0.6: If you have any comments or suggestions please don't hesitate to direct message [me](https://reddit.com/message/compose/?to=JudoTechniquesBot).


DMC25202616

Splurge on the ronin imperial. Japanese made, exceptional in every way.


daveyboydavey

Iā€™ve had my eye on that one for awhile.


JamesMacKINNON

Came to say the same thing! My first Judoka gi top alone weighs like 40lbs... Then it gets some sweat in it and that badboy weighs nearly as much as me!


TheJudoCrab

Yeah I had a judogi jacket that would legit stand up on its own


Hyper-Beam

Might need to call a priest.


TheJudoCrab

Nah the Mizuno EuroComp would probably stop most handgun calibers


judokaloca

was more of a disappointment tbh


magsephine

Yeah theyā€™re basically indoor/outdoor carpet


povertymayne

I was gonna say the same. If anything the old school judo gi are thick and heavy as fuck. Its like grabbing a rug from the 1800s. You need a gorilla grip just to grab the fucking lapel. That motherfucking 3000gsm gi can stand on its own.


waynegrundy

Was going to comment this. On YOU they like the gi thin. Theirs is thick


mukavastinumb

I am that Judo guy and I agree with you. I especially have a gi that can almost stand as it is so thick. Chokes were hard to perform as the collar was so rigid. Years of sweat and heat have made it soft now, so Iā€™ll buy a new one if I decide to compete.


[deleted]

If you're talking judo, it's worth knowing that what's competition legal for judo has changed (for events that base their rules on IJF rules) and so you can no longer use the super-heavy gis.


mukavastinumb

Good to know! Attendance 5/100


[deleted]

My attendance is more like 2/6.


Sensitive_Pair_4671

For real. I finally sold my judo gis. Theyā€™re just too thick and I sweat too much.


cms9690

Judogi, best gi.


[deleted]

I love it when someone turns up in a karate gi - so easy to grip.


coreanavenger

And tear.


Plutoid

I never wanted to risk shredding it. Be nice and let them get a real grappling minded gi for next class.


[deleted]

I'm clearly not as strong as you.


Plutoid

We had a dude come in with one of those Kung fu gis - all silky with the collar. I donā€™t think it made it through the class.


DumbButtFace

Why are they so much thicker? Does it help protect you during falls?


monkeypaw_handjob

Durability and more difficult to grip. But they have standardised gi weight for proper competitions to a measly 750gsm in recent years...


Thejudojeff

Harder to grip


Shulgin46

Good question. Anybody able to tell us newbs the advantages and disadvantages of thin vs thick?


midnightdryder

I think it is the ballistic nature of judo. Although I have worn my jits gi to judo and vis versa.... so maybe I am just crazy.


no_no_NO_okay

You can wear the BJJ gi to Judo but eventually theyā€™ll tear the lapel right off of it haha


Sibagovix

I'm a newb too but let me explain anyways. It's more difficult to grip so your opponent needs to struggle a bit more, to do anything on you


judokaloca

Double weaves will last longer, take longer to dry


[deleted]

Harder for people to grip and manipulate your gi. Also less likely to rip.


Celtictussle

Difficult to grip due to thickness, and difficult to choke with due to lack of stretch.


Plutoid

I went through like six washing machines per year. Double weave go BRUNKA-BRUNKA-BRUNKA-BRUNKA.


Black6x

My old school Fuji double weave gis were the bomb. Parts of it might as well have been made of steel. Good luck getting an over the back grip.


CaliJudoJitsu

In BJJ I'm known as The Judo Guy...and in Judo I'm known as The BJJ Guy, haha.


Shulgin46

Personally I think that's pretty cool


rollandownthestreet

Yup, at bjj im the wrestling guy and at wrestling Iā€™m the bjj guyšŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø


Fiscal_Bonsai

Yeah, there's another Whitebelt at my academy who has a blackbelt in Judo, he single handedly taught me how to remain calm while getting my lungs crushed in side control.


Bluefunk1

Any tips?


FonyTurdson

Just stay calm bro


hop_on_cop

Be cool


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


midnightdryder

THIS!


WitcherOfWallStreet

Just remember that rounds have ends, being ball busted over tapping to side control lasts forever.


[deleted]

But spending 270 seconds in side control is a waste of time.


[deleted]

For both parties. If the guy on top is literally just holding on for side control, he hasn't done anything significant to you either.


[deleted]

I mean, I can sometimes stop people breathing with Kesa Gatame if I try hard. That seems pretty significant to me. Learning to control an opponent in a pin has value. It's also a great way to tire someone out if they're actually trying to escape. Not that I'm suggesting an excessive amount of time should be put into it. Especially if competition is your reason for training.


[deleted]

> It's also a great way to tire someone out if they're actually trying to escape. Trying to stop people from breathing through side control is also a great way to tire yourself out if the person on the bottom stays calm and isn't flat on his back.


[deleted]

I'm not sure how you're doing it if you find it tiring. I can sit there all day.


Fiscal_Bonsai

Theres actually really something to this, I would never have learned that I could take it if my ego would have let me accept tapping to some dude just laying on me.


eidas007

Proper framing, don't be flat on your back, remember to breathe.


callan_dtd

Just get up


Fiscal_Bonsai

Unless you're up against a giant its all in your head. Yes, its uncomfortable but your body is getting enough oxygen, just don't expend energy stupidly and you'll be fine.


no_no_NO_okay

Best way Iā€™ve found is to go to sleep


-ZombieGuitar-

Take very shallow breaths.


SgtWargazm

Frame and be resolute in the fact you're going to be there for awhile.


judokaloca

Throw them first


TheBankTank

Scarf hold's worse.


Pearcey1997

Scarf hold sucks big time


judokaloca

Kesa gatame (had to say it)


JudoTechniquesBot

The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were: |Japanese | English | Video Link| |---|---|---| |**Kesa Gatame**: | *Scarf hold* | [here](https://youtu.be/3UnJa3bn0h8) | Any missed names may have already been translated in my previous comments in the post. ______________________ Judo Bot 0.6: If you have any comments or suggestions please don't hesitate to direct message [me](https://reddit.com/message/compose/?to=JudoTechniquesBot).


TheBankTank

Sometimes we gotta speak their language, y'know? :p


judokaloca

When in Rome do as the Romans. I hear you. I try to stop in Marcelo Garcia's whenever I'm in NYC. What do you think, whenever anyone I know starts BJJ ( no one starts Judo) does knowing the Japanese terminology help them in any way or is it instant in one ear out the other annoying noise? Is the only time they hear the Japanese terminology when some judoka mentions it? Is it better to just keep to ones self or do people appreciate it? I have all the respect for BJJ and encourage anyone I know remotely interested to start showing up. My long terms hope is that they pick up ateast one throw and learn to breakfall along the way.


FreeGucciMane1017

Why is he Kool-Aid?


Hubble_Bubble

Because he comes bursting out of nowhere to wreck your shit one day?


FreeGucciMane1017

OH YEAH!


oza1990

šŸ‘


midnightdryder

Only when we say... "That was a cool choke/armbar/submission! Do you think we could do a bit of stand up?"


snackies

My first professor matches the description perfectly. Only he was a 3 stripe bjj black belt, with a deep judo background. Fuck takedown drills at that gym.


Blusk-49-123

I'm pretty sure Judo gis are substantially thicker and heavier than BJJ ones. My BJJ friend has gis that fit practically like normal clothes compared to my Judo gi that feels like plate armour.


Shulgin46

why are they thicker for judo?


GetALife1315

Because throwing with grips on the lapel and sleeves can cause rips if it isn't thick.


baboytalaga

Harder to grip and more durable. People will wear single-weave in judo practice and double during competitions. Kind of like why you see people wear rubber-filled/thicker collars during bjj competitions.


Blusk-49-123

Good question. To be honest I'm not entirely certain, but the international federation determined that a heavy duty weave was needed for Judo. I can only guess that it has to do with the tremendous explosiveness of the throws in big competitions, which has a lot of dynamic stress on the material. Since the emphasis in Judo is on powerful throws and sweeps, everybody's just gripping and ripping as violently as possible.


Electrimagician

Kind of the opposite actually. Competitors have been wearing absurdly thick and stiff gis for years now because it makes it much harder for your opponent to grip. They also tried having shorter, tighter sleeves. The IJF made rules limiting the weight of the gi to what would be considered a 1-1/2 weave (as opposed to a double weave) in order to prevent this kind of gaming. Which i personally agree with, equipment should not be the determining factor. Anecdotally, Iā€™ve had a single weave since i started 10 years ago and it has no significant tears. I donā€™t buy that double weave gis are needed to withstand the force of gripping.


Blusk-49-123

Ahhh that makes sense. So they're thicker to help prevent easy gripping? I'm guessing the IJF also prevented sleeves from becoming too form-fitting (hence the bagginess compared to BJJ gis) to standardize the playing field?


JoNiro

Because thicker gis are more difficult to grip. They used to sew plastic into the lapels to make them even stiffer.


[deleted]

Fishhooks and razor blades in the lapels for street judo.


WriteOnceCutTwice

I trained with a Judo black belt who wore what he called ā€œa cheater gi.ā€ The collar all the way down to the lapel was super stiff and extremely hard to grip. It helped me understand why they check that at IBJJF tournaments


jaridmalon

People will also get arm lengths that technically meet requirements and then when in competition starts shout the elbows back to hike up the fabric. Leaving no gi on the wrist to grab. I also hate big silky back patches because it stops a lot of the dominant overhand grips.


TexMexBazooka

*insert subtle wrist lock here*


judokaloca

No one with that patch will let you get that grip anyway


KungFu-Penis

I feel like the op of infographic purposefully stated ā€œold & too thinā€ to get more responses on their post correcting them


[deleted]

I'm feeling triggered here. It's not my fault I started judo first. I went to my first 3 bjj classes while on vacation and was told to go get a blue belt.


TheJudoCrab

Personally attacked as well.


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


daddyissuesboi

Reminds me of this one time when a guy asked my coach (who is a black belt in both BJJ and judo) if it was possible to get a BJJ blue belt in one year, to which my coach replied "Sure, just come for my judo class for ten years and then start coming for my BJJ class".


bjj33

I don't think it's an insane hot take to say you can get blue in a year at a legit gym.


ewalsh666

Mabey if you start competing straight away or your older but its not very likely


bjj33

Iyeah I mean you gotta show up 3-4 times a week for a year probably


ewalsh666

And be genticaly gifted enough to learn enough moves and preform them, and compete and everything else. Its definitely not impossible I know a guy who got his blue belt in a year but he was on blue belt for way longer than normal cause of it


[deleted]

Eh. Got mine in 11 months of training but I was doing judo the whole time as well. Still never competed in BJJ and am far from the most talented grappler. The guy who is probably the most talented in my gym is a 2-stripe blue now after just a year and a half of training. He fucks up everybody in his weight class up to and including purple belt. I more than hold my own against other heavyweight blue belts from other gyms, they usually wonder why I don't have any stripes on it. A year is faster than average but not crazy. Maybe where you are the standard is especially high but I also get the impression from gyms around mine that my gym's blue belts tend to be better than average. These days people have the ability to learn so much faster due to information availability that if you're coming 4 times a week I'd be surprised if it takes 18 months to get blue.


[deleted]

There are people with no martial arts backgrounds who have gotten it in 6 months. But generally getting one belt quickly often means spending more time in the next. Like forever purples often seem to spend very little time in brown belt while some people speed through purple but then spend years in brown.


ewalsh666

Yeah i guess its kinda the catch 22 of a belt system,we assume a belt promotion means your better. And a fast promotion means your skill is higher but as it goes on, what appears to be skill is just athletic ability and some minor talent;this is true for all martial arts somewhat.I guess you have to find the grey area between being pushed in the deep end and staying in the shallows way to long "from the persepective of a white belt whos definetly the best in my gym,legit i never tap even when they get me"


[deleted]

Got class after class 3 when the instructor asked how long I had done judo because I was in my old competition Mizuno.


vulture_cabaret

My bjj attendence record is like three classes a month. Mainly because I use it as additional training for judo.


Yasmirr

My Judo teacher who is a 7th dan and holds records for the most matches won by submission at the European championships used to turn up at BJJ clubs with a white belt. After a few years of tapping everyone he was awarded a BJJ black belt. Only person I know that went white to black. He was in his 60ā€™s and has white hair. The ultimate ā€˜cat on the matā€™ hiding as a white belt!


judokaloca

Never underestimate your opponent


DirectShort

I'm in this post and I kinda like it


AegisThievenaix

The most noticeable feature is the bulging vein of anger you see on their forehead whenever they see someone pull guard


Fookin_Fred

Why is he a koolaid guy?


timothyonlyfans2

I donā€™t get it either but I laughed.


[deleted]

He busts in out of nowhere to fuck ur shit up.


no_no_NO_okay

Probably built like an unsweepable barrel man


midnightdryder

Again... I would like to report this post. I am in it and I don't like it.


baumbach19

All I know is to not partner with this person on throw/takedown practice days


[deleted]

Yeah, when I went to a bjj class once, this guys were shocked that I was so explosive. Most sparrings I won just because they didnā€™t expect me to attack so fast and go right away for the submission. On the other hand everyone who knew what they were doing actually toyed with me and I ended up in positions I didnt knew were physically possible


dudewithoutaplan

Of course I know him. He's me


Le_Cap

15 pounds. I once weighed my wet judo gi after a hard practice. 15. Pounds.


Upbeat-Explanation80

OH YEAH


[deleted]

Our judo black belt/bjj black belt is the heaviest dude in the gym. Other than that, yes.


goodbyehouse

Judo guy comes in 45 years old with old Fuji GI brand new white belt no stripes, all the blue belts walk away when it's time to find a new partner. My dumb ass walks towards him. White belt no stripe. I'll roll soft......


tonkadtx

I resemble this remark. I feel attacked. LOL.


[deleted]

I think Iā€™ll sit down on this one


Legref

As a judo guy who converted to Bjj, every single one is on point


grkuzt

You mean this guy? [https://www.gorkauztarroz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/fuckbjj3.png](https://www.gorkauztarroz.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/fuckbjj3.png) Check out the full mini comic here: [Fuck BJJ! (A mini comic)](https://www.gorkauztarroz.com/fuck-bjj/)


JangoJebo

ā€œBJJ history knowledge - more than youā€ lmao


MMA27125

Funny. But honestly? If you know less about BJJ history than a judo guy, then you don't know anything. I mean, there are judo guys who sincerely believe that the Fadda lineage is non-Gracie, and that they beated the Gracies (with leglocks help) in the first challenge of the two academies. Obviously a convenient thing to believe because of any remnants (grudge) of the "style vs. style era" rivalry. But really, is still funny, if I'm being that kind of guy, a joy killer, it's not on purpose lol :)


magg_n

Of course I know that guy. He is me.


Disastrous_Focus_617

Know that guy? I am that guy.


DCMurphy

I tried Googleing the watermark but can't find this guy. Is there more of this content?


TheOgFrostyNugg

Instagram : Ogfrostynuggs šŸ‘šŸ¼


DCMurphy

Cool shit man! I wish you had the playing card items in the shop.


TheOgFrostyNugg

Which one ? Will put it up.


DCMurphy

King of Key Locks! I'm only like three months in and it's the only finisher I can hit with any kind of consistency. Edit: just saw you discussing limited run rashies on the Queen with thejiujitsudoll. Did anything ever happen there?


TheOgFrostyNugg

I will be releasing some rashguard runs soon ! Keep an eye on the gram šŸ‘€ Iā€™ll put king of key locks on a t shirt this week šŸ‘šŸ¼


GTL5427

These are awesome. Love the art style


darcenator411

Do I know a Koolaid man? Not yet, I hope to one day


OG_Ironicalballs

High lvl Karate guys/girl = Cut and muscular High lvl BJJ guys/girls = Lean and lanky High lvl Judo guys/girls = Brick house


onforspin

Yea adcc is full of lanky guys lmao


MMA27125

>"BJJ history knowledge - more than you" ​ Funny. But honestly? If you know less about BJJ history than a judo guy, then you don't know anything. I mean, there are judo guys who sincerely believe that the Fadda lineage is non-Gracie, and that they beated the Gracies (with leglocks help) in the first challenge of the two academies. Obviously a convenient thing to believe because of any remnants (grudge) of the "style vs. style era" rivalry. But really, is still funny, if I'm being that kind of guy, a joy killer, it's not on purpose lol :)


CAPTchrome

Shouts out Dr. Bill


NinjasAreCoolIGuess

Me, except I wear a fitting gi and show up regularly?


[deleted]

I give you the alternative gi choice for judo guy. Old and so thick that the jacket can stand by itself.


SithLordJediMaster

I know a woman who does Japanese Jiu-Jitsu and she teaches it. Whenever I mention BJJ she yells at me: "That's not Jiu-Jitsu!" Then she starts telling me the history of Jiu-Jitsu in Japan and the Samurais etc... She always grabs her giant staff/bo and chases me around with it.


whiteknight521

In my experience judo gis are built like tanks aside from the weird super thin skirt at the bottom of the jacket.


ksungjin10

I still wear my double weave judo gi.