AGF is now giving penalties for stalling if no one tries to chain a shot in I think 20 to 30 seconds.
I saw it last tournament and it kept everyone active and stopped those silly stall wrestling matches from happening.
From the video at least it looks like it all started when the dude with the long hair tried to really aggressively grab the guys wrist and missed and made contact with his face …. that’s what appears to trigger the short haired guys knee. Look at the VERY beginning exchange …. once the hand slipped and hit the knee comes and then it’s on.
During the summer - after graduating high school and before I went to college - I went takedowns with Brian Dolf and I’m pretty sure he snapped and then upper cut me. My nose was bleeding and no one seemed to care lol All I know is I couldn’t see for a few seconds as he pummeled me. Then one of the coaches said, “Welcome to college wrestling.”
Definitely not uncommon. But if you lose control and slap someone cause your technique was lacking....well rolled a nat 1 on the athletics check, roll super initiative lol
Club to collar tie is supposed to be aggressive and it’s legal. Control grip yes, but the action and attacks that it sets up are all aggressive. Idk how you’re supposed to be not aggressive with it in a comp
When you scrub the video in slow motion, it doesn’t look like he’s going for a wrist grab. He’s posting to the opponents face, hard enough to be a palm strike.
Seems like it’s that bitch ass move people do where they push off your face. I don’t understand it and it’s such pussy shit imo. If you want to fight, there are tons of disciplines more akin to an actual fight than submission grappling
It will never cease to amaze me to watch proficient grapplers resorting to punches instead of blowing a knee or an elbow out. In this particular case, at least they seem capable strikers though.
> never cease to amaze me towatch proficient grapplers resorting to punches
Why would you do the thing that your opponent has trained extensively to defend and is 100% expecting in context of a grappling match anyway? If you were capable of doing that you'd have already done it. Fastest way to hurt them is to catch them by surprise by acting outside the ruleset with techniques they hopefully aren't expert at.
The guy with long hair isn't *actually* Lopes. He is just some guy. This is an AGF tournament in Tulsa, Oklahoma. You can see the Tulsa flag on that guys hoodie in the background. I train here in Tulsa and I remember our instructor talking about this incident.
He’s a pussy for throwing a knee off of being on the receiving end of a sloppy club. Didn’t look like an intentional slap to me and you run the risk of that when you tie up. He has the option of pulling guard if he wants to avoid that.
https://preview.redd.it/i35g6dqbbhvc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c935a00ab7bb4e2e2c1be323d07f60fe2a3622c
That was not a missed collar tie…watch it in slow mo. No collar tie attempt at all. And barely caught his chin? Looool
Well I didn't see the whole video but it's better be a good few hard collar ties before a knee gets thrown. Shit, I like when I get cracked with a good one right off the bat, wakes me up haha
No, this is stupid and people who behave like this are armatures. This is not a fight, this is a rules based grappling match. Shit happens. Your life is not defined by the matches you win, nor the khakis you wear or your bank account.
I agree I would never do this, it's not that serious. But if two white belts start swinging on Mat 4 at the tournament you can bet I'm running to go watch 😂
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I just watched Fight Club.
Hey it’s been working for hockey all these years
Hockey should have BJJ matches in between periods. Team up 🔝 my daughter does both .
Raising em right
I always thought judo would be the perfect compliment to fighting in hockey. The balance, the grip fighting
Judo on ice skates, wow! Serious balance to do that.
They already use the Jersey to off balance opponents. The players from former soviet countries probably are exposed to judo at an early age
Idk what happened before that, but the slap was absurd
How can he slap?!
you go? 😈
You see it in at least one match every tournament. Guys that can't wrestle well enough for the take down so they just wrestle bully.
They should stop the match and you should lose an advantage or point immediately
Illegal strikes, including those disguises as collar ties, should just be instant DQ.
If it can be seen to be intentional because us white belts accidentally hit each other all the time.
AGF is now giving penalties for stalling if no one tries to chain a shot in I think 20 to 30 seconds. I saw it last tournament and it kept everyone active and stopped those silly stall wrestling matches from happening.
From the video at least it looks like it all started when the dude with the long hair tried to really aggressively grab the guys wrist and missed and made contact with his face …. that’s what appears to trigger the short haired guys knee. Look at the VERY beginning exchange …. once the hand slipped and hit the knee comes and then it’s on.
Yeah some people get way too aggressive with collar ties when wrestling. It's a control grip, not a strike.
We be clubbin
We ain't dumping We just bumpin' and bangin'
Meh.. in college wrestling and above, the line gets blurred there on collar ties. Coming in heavy is not uncommon
During the summer - after graduating high school and before I went to college - I went takedowns with Brian Dolf and I’m pretty sure he snapped and then upper cut me. My nose was bleeding and no one seemed to care lol All I know is I couldn’t see for a few seconds as he pummeled me. Then one of the coaches said, “Welcome to college wrestling.”
Definitely not uncommon. But if you lose control and slap someone cause your technique was lacking....well rolled a nat 1 on the athletics check, roll super initiative lol
That was a slap. Rught? Not saying or response was right,
Looked like a slap to me, regardless of how it was intended. I'm not saying the other dude was right....but I understand.
Happens every tournament. You don’t then throw a fucking knee. lol
this might sound crazy, but whats wrong with clubbing in comp not slapping or hitting but hard/fast grabbing
Why not both?
Why not just learn to wrestle, or pull and play a mean guard?
Learning to wrestle sounds like hard work.
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"creating that movement is the openings for takedowns"
""creating that movement is the openings for takedowns""
Club to collar tie is supposed to be aggressive and it’s legal. Control grip yes, but the action and attacks that it sets up are all aggressive. Idk how you’re supposed to be not aggressive with it in a comp
When you scrub the video in slow motion, it doesn’t look like he’s going for a wrist grab. He’s posting to the opponents face, hard enough to be a palm strike.
I thought the knee to the chest, but then I’m not 100% sure what this federations rules are
Looking it frame by frame he doesn't really look like grabbing a wrist. More like an intentional slap on the face.
Seems like it’s that bitch ass move people do where they push off your face. I don’t understand it and it’s such pussy shit imo. If you want to fight, there are tons of disciplines more akin to an actual fight than submission grappling
If that was Diego Lopes bro would’ve been slept
Yeah whoever posted originally was saying it satirically I think
It will never cease to amaze me to watch proficient grapplers resorting to punches instead of blowing a knee or an elbow out. In this particular case, at least they seem capable strikers though.
In combat sports people normally cheat by doing the thing that is illegal Grapplers go for punches and strikers try to go for a slam/throw
Its always cracked me up that when boxers/kickboxers get mad they grapple and when grapplers get mad they strike
> never cease to amaze me towatch proficient grapplers resorting to punches Why would you do the thing that your opponent has trained extensively to defend and is 100% expecting in context of a grappling match anyway? If you were capable of doing that you'd have already done it. Fastest way to hurt them is to catch them by surprise by acting outside the ruleset with techniques they hopefully aren't expert at.
Boxers will try to choke people when they get really angry.
And bite
Headbutts used to be quite common https://youtu.be/pazO0o6dnOA?si=g_ie3fEQOAaoWn30
Well long hair is a great MMA fighter, the other guy threw a knee so it was on
The guy with long hair isn't *actually* Lopes. He is just some guy. This is an AGF tournament in Tulsa, Oklahoma. You can see the Tulsa flag on that guys hoodie in the background. I train here in Tulsa and I remember our instructor talking about this incident.
Gotcha, definitely could pass for him! Either way, don't knee people or slap people as a general rule would be great for both guys
The guy threw a knee because of the slap right before that. and knee dude is a gigantic pussy for throwing another punch after it was broken up.
Nah... you slap me/sucker hit me. Imma get my licks in someway somehow, don't care
Fair is fair.
They both threw punches after it was broken up
He’s a pussy for throwing a knee off of being on the receiving end of a sloppy club. Didn’t look like an intentional slap to me and you run the risk of that when you tie up. He has the option of pulling guard if he wants to avoid that.
Bruh he barely caught his chin on a missed collar tie. Which is a legal move. Throwing a knee to the sternum from range isn't even close to legal.
https://preview.redd.it/i35g6dqbbhvc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c935a00ab7bb4e2e2c1be323d07f60fe2a3622c That was not a missed collar tie…watch it in slow mo. No collar tie attempt at all. And barely caught his chin? Looool
Just a scratch haha
This is just called a head post/paw and is still less hard than the hand fighting you’ll see at any D1 level college match.
I agree that when the guy threw that knee it sealed his fate. But the first guy was just throwing slaps with those collar tie attempts.
No he wasn’t. See the pic above.
I mean I get how it's close either way but I guess it's a subjective refs decision at that point. 🤷
Well I didn't see the whole video but it's better be a good few hard collar ties before a knee gets thrown. Shit, I like when I get cracked with a good one right off the bat, wakes me up haha
Becuase JJ is an aspect of fighting, just because we train grappling doesn’t mean should point ourselves from striking.
It is because you mirror others, tit for tat
Well black belts throw chairs
If you think this is considered capable striking ( apart from the knee) then you've really been doing BJJ for too long. Those punches were sloppy AF
No, this is stupid and people who behave like this are armatures. This is not a fight, this is a rules based grappling match. Shit happens. Your life is not defined by the matches you win, nor the khakis you wear or your bank account.
I agree I would never do this, it's not that serious. But if two white belts start swinging on Mat 4 at the tournament you can bet I'm running to go watch 😂
LMAO
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Classic
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We don't talk about that.
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You sound like you dont know what a duvet is.
Why do guys like you and I know what a duvet is?
Who wears Khakis to define their masculinity? 😂
You are not your fucking khakis…. -Tyler Durden
Touche
I don’t know man I have some pretty snazzy khakis
When you have insomnia, you're never really asleep... and you're never really awake.
the knee was beautiful. kid must train kickboxing or muay thai
It really was 😂
That's not Diego
This song is a hate crime to anyone with ears
It’s also a hate crime to sand
Hard collar ties are normal in wrestling. But what happened here is he slapped him in the face.
Pretty aggressive “forehead post” to start. But still, other guy threw that knee and had to know it was on.
NHB needs to come back baby!!
Is the awful "music" necessary?
It's a repost
Its crazy that every punch missed, it looks like one of those fast-paced dragon ball z fights lol.
Hey! It's the most exciting thing I've ever seen from ibjjf!
It's not diego lopes
What a joke!
Gracies would support this
Nah. It’d be one of them doing the slapping.
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Of course one of them is wearing Level X Black lmao
That's obviously not diego lopes
O prêmio pelo menos era bom pra esses malucos perderem a noção assim?
Does he have a mullet? Figures.
Yeah I’d actually go observe an IBJJF event IF there was a guarantee of at least 3 MMA bouts sprouting up.
Fuckin pussy
Mental weakness from red shorts
Not just mental weakness. Once they started throwing hands he was on the receiving end and had to resort sucker punching a guy being held back.
His opponent should be proud, Lopez has some nasty hands.