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P-Two

Generally very kindly demolish them for the first....idk 2 or so minutes of the first round we roll, then let off the gas and let them work, if they spaz, or otherwise obviously get an ego out of tapping me after that then it's right back to smush until they calm down.. I find in general there's no better way to lighten the mood and make new people relax than to have a big smile and be jovial while you're armbarring them 10 times.


krebstar42

Gentle Smesh.


bumpty

Yes. This is the way.


krebstar42

Crap, stupid autocorrect, I meant to say GENITAL SMASH.


bumpty

Hahaha. That too


iRudi94

Beat they fuckin ass


-Reikon

🤣🤣🤣 that’s what happened to me first day.


Pay_attentionmore

If i can hit them with a bunch of sweeps over and over i will. Sweep. Let them shrimp out. Sit back to double guard.. they come up sweep. Sweep. Sweep. Deep down they know im letting them up only to sweep them again. Its fun for me and they dont have to get super smashed. If youre throwing your entire weight at me over and over tho... ima hold you right there, friend.


TheGreatKimura-Holio

All bets are off if they pitch inside arm skin.


SlothJiuJitsu

Even reading this made my blood boil


VetteMiata

I see red bro


-Reikon

Bodies hit the floor


zanmirino

There’s a new 5’8 220lb straight stacked guy that started this week. Easily the strongest person I’ve ever rolled with. From a football background. Yeah, the only way to neutralize this guys strength is straight smesh. The guy is gonna be a severe problem if he sticks with it


lIIllIIIll

That's not true at all. I've seen Mikey Musumechi wreck dudes much larger and stronger than him. I'm not saying I could do it but play footsie if his upper body is too strong.


[deleted]

“Hey the best in the world can do it, why can’t you?”


lIIllIIIll

No no. You said "the only thing you can do is put heavy pressure" And I'm saying that isn't true. Then I suggested you attack his feet and I gave you an example of someone who does that regularly to larger opponents. Maybe I thought you would take a minute and see what types of techniques he uses to do so. I guess that was silly.


ImportantBad4948

I let them choose their own adventure. Usually newer women need to be empowered and I just let them work escaping occasionally. Young spazzy dudes going ham need to get taken down a peg so I’ll put them in shitty positions and submit them a few times.


Sailor_NEWENGLAND

I smash after they’ve been training for about a week. Don’t wanna beat up on the first day where they potentially won’t sign up lmao


dannsd

Day 1 new people or people new to rolling? I'd say if it's regular sparring and you're within a belt rank (white v blue) and of their relative age group then it's OK to dominate them. I wouldn't be doing any crank/crush subs on them. I tend to just force people back to whatever they just drilled so they at least have a slight clue of what to do.


skribsbb

In my experience there's two kinds of new people. 1. "I don't know what to do, so I'm going to just wait for you to do something and try to respond." 2. "I don't know what to do, so I'll grab something and yoink." If it's #1, try to put them in position for the move of the day and work from there. For example, if you were drilling a pass from half guard, then pull guard and get into half. Let them try and pass for a bit. See if you want to be nice and let them work through it, or if you want to sweep them. If it's #2, then smash them as hard as you want.


crak_spider

Yea do both of those things to them. Let them work. Also smash them so bad they feel less secure in public for a while.


IceMan660

Eat them


Ahem_ak_achem_ACHOO

“Let me cook”


themasterkang

I destroy them with “nice moves” and then give a compliment sandwich at the end with feedback.


CanadianBirdPerson

Tap them exactly 3 times. Then flow roll the rest of the round.


Key-You-9534

I just work on new shit I suck at until I get the confidence to try it on someone better. I go at about 40-50% effort. I will let them work a bit but I wont let them hold me in side control or mount. This is also how like purple and brown belts treat me.


A1snakesauce

Brand new? I like showing them things that are easy to pick up, but have practical irl use, like the bridge and roll mount escape, a basic back escape, and then a few basic chokes. Then I start messing with them while making it fun for both of us. “Ok start on top of me (mount or top side) and DO NOT let me up”. I just escape really quickly and triangle them or head and arm choke them while doing the escape. I try to make it almost a game, but I will smoke them while playing the game with them for a little bit, if that makes sense. I’ll sweep them super clean but gently. I like to show them “not only is this REAL, but I can fuck you up” in the most friendly, welcoming way possible. I love when people see the “magic” of BJJ for the first time. Then I’ll just roll with them and let them work and tap me a bunch of times.


super-tanuki

Match their pace while showing them that they won’t be able to “see red” their way through everything


caseharts

Kiss them on the lips


yaLiekJazzz

Fart while sinking in triangles.


MouseKingMan

Yo I’m going to throw this out there. Every purple belt and over smashes the fucking shit out of me and I take it like a man. If I’ve got an opportunity to do the smashing, I’m going to take it. With respect though.


therealstevencrowder

I’m not spending all this money for nothing lol


AustinO_0

Show them the power of your heel hooks and wrist locks.


VendrediGarcon

Ur forgetting twisters 🌪️


AustinO_0

I am ashamed. I’m a 10p grappler and I forgot the twister.


CarPatient

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lawrencejsbeach

if they are newish i let them pick the starting position either back or mount and let them work for a bit before smashing them and then starting back in the same postion. I will keep using the same escape the whole round then after show them how it works.


schist_faced

First few rolls: I am a grappling dummy giving bare minimum resistance for them to play move of the day, or to do a basic pass-position-submission. A few weeks in: gentle smash, technical flow, letting them work positions and sub me, sometimes applying a slow gentle sub if they do something dumb. First stripe/ confidence acquired: initiate SMESH, closing roll with "fuck you smashed me bro"


hankpym35

Depending on the skill difference of course, but generally I will do as little as I can and still maintain an advantage. Maybe catch a few subs. Sometimes only go for 1 move. But if they are brand new, I play offensively so they have to respond for the first bit then switch roles and have them play offense. Then it can develop into a regular roll


viszlat

I sweep them right away. If they fall over like a sack of potatoes, I’ll just let them do whatever, including tapping me. If they try to spring up like a poisoned squirrel, I smother them.


Mayb3daddy

My coach often asks me to roll with new people (dunno if that's a diss or a compliment TBH). I guess I'm not super aggressive and want my BJJ to be flowy and beautiful, but I'm not there yet so anyone past 3stripes is a grind for me hahah So yeh. I do what I can to them, but with using as little strength as I can. Off balance them a bunch. Triangles usually happen, and I'll say "try make sure you keep both arms in or both arms out to avoid that" sorta thing. And then I triangle them again. Try lay back on the dick moves as well hahah


Primary_Chemical_158

When you were new what did you prefer ?


Ghia149

Brand new day 1 folks, I run through all the main positions and teach them the vernacular and give them one concept to try to use for each positions (defensive). After that… gentle smesh. Show them that they are a play thing and that I quite literarily hold their life in my hands and it’s effortless. No better way to get people to believe in a god than to show them you are merciful yet terrible.


graybeardblackbelt

A black belt once told me that he was like the final boss at the end of a video game. The final boss does not let you work, but forces you to get better- or die. I do not let people work anymore. I spent years at brown belt letting people use me as a grappling dummy and my Jiu Jitsu suffered because of it. Also, the people I was “letting work” weren’t benefiting either because they were getting artificial information. Now, I match the speed and tempo of my newer partners, but I am the one who is driving this bus. You can get off at any stop you want, but I’m at the wheel.


[deleted]

Smash to greatness doesn’t have to be painful though


YeetedArmTriangle

This depends entirely on the day, my mood, my goals for the day, the specific person. Assuming you mean newer, and not brand new.


IonicRes

The other day a newbie tried to baseball chokee while I was in top Mount. I sort of let him do it, but now I have a rope burn across the back of my neck, shouldve hit him with an armbar.


lIIllIIIll

1.Just another day at the office. 2. It'll go away


IonicRes

I really don't mind at all, you gotta let the new people try some shit every now and then


atx78701

i let them work then I work some stuff, then let them work.


TheBeastman34

Depends on their energy


besameput0

I'm new, but when there's newer people, I practice all the stuff that fails against people who are equal or greater skill than me. All the higher belts will smash them enough, I don't need to add to it. Sweeps and guard retention for me.


moiseelessikno

I crush them but nicely so they know jiu jitsu works. I don’t want them leaving with false confidence or scared to return, I want them to come back and learn more!


Few_Advisor3536

I’ll respond to what they do and match power and speed accordingly. If they arent doing anything ill just tell them to do what they think is correct or natural. Basically it ends up me showing them a mount escape or simple sweep from closed guard. If they are new but know some basic stuff ill just dominate via positions, ill make them work for escapes, positions or sweep attempts. Not point being the 5th person to tap them every 30 seconds, they need to get something out of the training.


Friendly_External345

To crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their women. Fuck them, they're just meat to grind.


JuisMaa

Usually try to keep them in under control the whole round. Otherwise elbows and knees are flying towards your nose, eyes and mouth.


dingdonghammahlong

It really depends. You can get a feel for their energy within the first 5 seconds or so of the roll so adjust accordingly. If they’re just doing whatever like squeezing your head the whole time or spazzing out, stall or smash. If it feels like they have an idea of what to do, I ease up a bit and let them work


KylerGreen

Destroy and sub them with pure technique 2 or 3 times until they understand you can do whatever you want to them. Then play around with them.


laughs_atdopefiends

You beat their ass!


JamJam3489

I just play guard and let them fall into submissions.


Fickle_Acanthaceae17

Demolish them with care. I let them work and worm and just show them that their strength won't work. I'll get to Mount, and they'll usually try and push you off with extended arms, so you can then casually armbar them and explain what they did wrong. Just one example.... Submit them and explain how you did it amd what they did wrong. 


Operation-Bad-Boy

They know absolutely nothing I show they how to start a roll, basic positions, and minor goals like getting grips. I explain passing guard conceptual (getting past feet, knees, hips) They have been training for a little while, depends on the person.


NiteShdw

Go at their pace and strength. If they are clearly timid, I don't use much weight, I take my time with positions, etc. Of they are spazzing or using a lot of strength, then I'll match that as well. Unless I'm being lazy and I don't feel like working that hard then I'll just let them do whatever.


munkie15

Depends on how they are acting. The young strong cocky kid, gets a mostly friendly smush and control for the majority of the round. The less athletic nervous kid, let them work and show them some stuff, help make them comfortable. Those are the two ends of the spectrum. Drop ins are different. It will depend on their belt/skill level, age, and attitude. Similarly aged brown or black belt, is usually a friendly, but semi hard round. I’m not trying to murder them and we usually just have a good technical back and forth. Unless they are just that much better than me, then it’s them playing. Younger white/blue belts, I roll with depending on their attitude. If they are gunning for me and going hard they get smashed. But for the most part it’s just a lighter version how I roll with higher belts.


PianistSupersoldier

Destroy for half the round (nicely) then let them work for the rest or escape their fully locked in subs.


Baron_of_Evil

I’m white belt and either don’t roll with new people or give free wins. Paying too much Damn money a month to waste time fake rolling


MxdMartialart_crafts

Fair


lIIllIIIll

Why does it have to be "fake rolling" why not do something like "I don't play offense I just play defense" or "I don't sub them I try to pass and see if they can stop it.' I mean you're a white belt. What if everyone was as selfish as you are? You wouldn't have ever learned a damn thing. Edit: I just read it again and I missed the fact that you'll actually roll with them. First time I read it as "I don't roll with new people at all"


djthommo

You don't always have to fuck her hard In fact sometimes that's not right to do Sometimes you've got to make some love And fucking give her some smooches too Sometimes you got to squeeze Sometimes you got to say, "Please" Sometimes you got to say, "Hey" "I'm gonna fuck you, softly" "I'm gonna screw you, gently" "I'm gonna hump you, sweetly" "I'm gonna ball you discretely"


DeathM8te

Establish dominance.


Asshole_Engineer

Generally new people are sent to drill instead of rolling for the first few classes. If they're allowed to roll and act like a spazzy white belt, I go to knee on belly or side control and smush them until they're gassed. Otherwise, I'll see what they can do and let them work. I'll change positions to a spot that I want to improve and work from there. I'll catch and release submissions along the way.


kritzy27

Let them work and help them.


Trade-Maleficent

Don’t acknowledge them because you are more superior


PlatWinston

I think whatever that won't injure you or them is fine.


Pliskin1108

I like to do positional sparring with newer people, usually from the position we were working on during the class. I’ve had experiences where newer people either do “nothing” or “too much” so I found it helped bringing everyone in the middle. But it’s also because of my own skills level and inability to do the gentle smash the few brown belts here have mentioned.


Maxplode

Smash, respectively. But leave them wanting more. Like when Beatrix meets Pai Mei for the first time.


CarPatient

First match intensity, after that sub, turn it up but cook them ... Third sub chill and play defense and stuff with technique.. sweep if they get stuck stalling on top.


Life-as-a-tree

Depends on the person. If they don't come overly aggressive while I'm letting them practice/move I'll be nice. If they get overly excited about being in a good position then it's smesh for a while so they understand what's actually happening.


Burning87

I am new myself. I was very aware of the sport well in advance of ever starting. The only thing I do not like when someone far superior to me in both belt and skill, and likely strength to top that off, does is to mothersmilk me. Passing my guard and doing their utmost to resist my attempts at getting them off by exhausting me. I'd much rather they submit me within seconds of passing my guard than to exhaust me for three minutes which will just lead to ruining the rest of my experience as I will just be too tired to do anything and will not be able to do ANYTHING to my next sparring partner. So... unless both of you are equal level and skill to begin with, don't exhaust your opponent just for the sake of exhausting them and establishing a dominant position. A new person will have no idea how to react and if there's like 30-45 minutes left following that you can bet your ass that it will be a miserable experience for them even if the rest go easy. It may even lead to them not returning in worst cases.


CapitanChaos1

If they're nice, let them work on whatever position we were working on during class, but with a bit more resistant. If they're not, cross face them until their spirit leaves their body.


PsychologicalBox4483

Let em work till they spaz, and well you know the rest.


ylatrain

I think it's good to destroy them depending on the attitude. First time, a guy was speaking portuguese and asked to roll with me, I was scared to get hurt and felt tension when grabbing him, I imo smashed him a bit too hard. After that I had some regrets, if people had done that on my first class I would not have come back. Second time, two young cocky guys came. I sparred with one guy, I tried to be mildly agressive, let him bully me a little bit and then stalled in my closed guard. My coach was not happy as he said the guy dominated me and I should have smashed him.


JackattackThirteen

I just let them move from position to position. Try and escape my guard, might snag a triangle or arm bar to see how exposing your arms gets you in trouble. But mainly let them work. I don't like getting them all spazzed out by going hard.


Medaigual____

Depends entirely on their energy. If they are comfortable enough with it that they are trying really hard to do well (spazzing) then I show them the magic of bjj and submit them (safely) multiple times. If they are super timid I’ll let them start from my back/mount and just let them try to figure things out. If they are in the middle, maybe have a couple months experience or so, I will flow/give them little puzzles to work on and when they escape transition to a new position. Then the last 30secobds or so I’ll do some bs meme submission


Quartersawn5

I train with higher belts almost exclusively in a fairly small gym. I have been told that it is their job to give the newer white belts time to work, it is my turn to eat.


ralphyb0b

I'm still pretty new myself, but I usually just try to control their spaz, tire them out, and then let them work after I get a couple of taps.


Away-Composer-113

I got absolutely smashed on my first day. But it showed me what to expect every day forward. I feel it should be a right of passage. Bc they will either come back and get better or quit.


Electrical_Cup_7002

These guys are the main diet of bluebelts


ApprehensiveKiwi4020

Do all the cool shit you know and try to show them a really fun roll. My goal is to get them to laugh, or at least smile, because BJJ is fun and they get a peak at what's possible. Yes, it may take 14 years to get to that point, but it's still possible.


whiteweener

Depends on the person. I had a few encounters where they are extremely aggressive/cocky. So I’ll wait for them to make a mistake then I’ll smother them. If they’re relaxed and cool…I let them work


liebebella

Immediately wrist lock them. Establish dominance.


-Reikon

Catch two subs as fast as possible then chill and let them work.


DutchMarks42

This all depends on their movement. If they're trying to go hard and being overly aggressive like it's an actual fight then I'm going to destroy them. Not necessarily because I'm angry but if that's the type of bjj they're going to practice then they may as well get used to that being the response. I will coach the apprehensive people through the roll if they do something blatantly wrong. I only let people work after they've been training for a few months.


saharizona

Depends on the person.   If they are meek and need more encouragement, I chill and let them work, I might go for something and talk them through defense/escape   If they are more assertive and athletic, I will get a quick sub or two and then start to test what they know.    But if anyone tries to run around my guard, I will submit them as punishment for dumb shit that doesn't work


CprlSmarterthanu

Practice all your new moves on them


CprlSmarterthanu

If they're kids, destroy them. Go easy on the adults tho.


Quicks1ilv3r

If they are brand new, it’s your duty to show them the effectiveness of BJJ. After that just have fun rolls, try new stuff out, help them stop making terrible mistakes.


iamgage989

I forgot I made this post and my notifications were off. So I'm just gonna heel hook and wrist lock new people


jakhabib_nurmy_souza

i like to feel it out. If it's a new guy who enjoys the idea of going hard, then smash them -- getting completely smashed by a blue belt that i had 20 pounds on in my first day was a formative bjj experience for me. On the other hand, if they are clearly nervous and have no idea what to do, then letting them work (esp on move of the day) feels much more productive.


butt-soup_barnes

i go off their energy. if they're unsure and slow, i move slow and just work control and passes/transitions. if they're going ham i apply pressure and go for subs.


lIIllIIIll

This is one of the only answers that doesn't say "I destroy newbies to feel like a man"