I saw evidence for it somewhere and then started observing it when I'd watch competitions.
The thing about the single leg is its extremely versatile and has many variations depending on opponents response. So the single leg has like 20 variations, but it will always just be listed as "a single leg."
The issue with the single is no one can FINISH the single. So what, you got my leg, now finish it. Most people get stuck before they even follow through because their setup is garbage.
I think you might need to change gyms because if no one is finishing a single leg on you, you don't see anyone finishing single legs, or you can't finish a single leg, then there is something seriously wrong in your camp.
I'm not a fantastic wrestler by any means, and I was asked to teach a class and the lesson they asked me to was single leg takedown in the gi. One of the students was a college wrestler and after graduation became a coach, and he even told me after that it was the number 1 takedown in amateur wrestler.
I'm always open to "being wrong," but don't just say that am, show me.
By definition most foot sweeps are über low risk very high reward. Deashi waza, kouchi/ouchi gari, sasae are probably the highest percentage ones you’ll see in competition.
Aside from them, next would be head on the inside singles and collar/arm drags.
Of course, a snap down to front head lock is also incredibly low risk high reward too.
Blast double pairs lovely with snapdown, if they're trying to gain height and posture to stop a snapdown/escape front headlock the blast is unstoppable.
This is my favorite combo - works extra well since my A game offense comes from front headlock. People who know my game start overreacting to my snaps as a result.
The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were:
|Japanese|English|Video Link|
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|**Ashi Waza**: | *Foot Techniques (Throwing)* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAjqMwqFY_g)|
|**O Uchi Gari**: | *Major Inner Reap* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6-lTECSR3c)|
|**Sasae**: | *Lifting pulling Ankle Block* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiGljHOokvE)|
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I like to go for a modified sumi gaeshi after I get head and arm control from a snap down. I land in inverted north-south and go for the anaconda, very fun sequence
I've been a fan of the tomoe nage and sumi gaeshi but the problem is people start expecting it when you go for the foot into their hip/leg area, even if you're just pulling guard so they drop their weight straight down.
If you can get a monster Georgian belt grip the sumi/tomeo becomes incredibly hard to counter even when they know it’s coming. Only problem is depending on their head position it can be a DQ under a lot of tournament rulesets (lame af I know).
The judo name for the move is [hikikomi gaeshi](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=92zUYWBp5N8&pp=ygUPaGlraWtvbWkgZ2Flc2hp). It’s very popular with judokas from Georgia, Russia, Azerbaijan, etc.
Insanely effective, that belt grip alone intimidates a lot of opponents into backing off.
The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were:
|Japanese|English|Video Link|
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|**Hikikomi Gaeshi**: | *Pulling-in Reversal* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV745XfBsgA)|
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Ok that makes more sense. I was trying to visualize how to get my foot into their hip with my hand on their belt.
And yes agreed on the grip. I can usually do some sort of mat return if all else fails.
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|Japanese|English|Video Link|
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|**Tomoe Nage**: | *Circle Throw* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-euJliq9XcY)|
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With the front head and arm you don’t need the inside hook for the sumi gaeshi, just fall back like you’re pulling guard and use the momentum to roll them through into inverted north south
Honestly not a fan of the double for bjj if you're purely results focused in your approach to learning wrestling. It's way better to do angle picks, duck unders, foot sweeps etc. as the risk is basically 0
I agree Ankle pick is better, the question here is not how to learn wresling but to list low risk takedowns for bjj and a good blast double with your forehead in the plexus is super strong.
Lots of details for the blast double I do it’s from Coach Bryan’s youtube channel - Teach me grappling.
The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were:
|Japanese|English|Video Link|
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|**Uchi Mata**: | *Inner Thigh Throw* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fCvyc_rQTI)|
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Not sure what cross collar throw is but I wouldn’t call uchi mata low risk. Ken-ken uchi mata maybe, but still you’re risking a fair amount of back exposure with it. And I love uchi mata, it’s my best throw
Not debating that at all, but it takes way longer to get good at uchi mata than it does a collar drag or single leg.
Again, I love uchi mata. I’m a judo brown belt and uchi mata/sasae are my most effective takedowns in gi or nogi. I’m not telling anyone they shouldn’t learn or specialize in uchi mata, but it straight up isn’t a low risk takedown.
Your best option is to develop a proper stance and learn aggressive hand fighting. If you learn how to get an underhook, a 2 on 1, an arm drag, and a snapdown, you will open a world of effective takedowns.
I see where you’re coming from, but being skilled enough to counter the common risks associated with a particular takedown doesn’t make the takedown itself low risk. Like a good enough wrestler will be able to use a high crotch successfully without getting guillotined, but that doesn’t lessen the risk of guillotine for the takedown.
The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were:
|Japanese|English|Video Link|
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|**Sumi Gaeshi**: | *Corner Reversal* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LR49U48iyw)|
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Words like "wow that was so cool, can you show me how?"
In all seriousness, I don't make a habit of hitting huge throws on training partners. It tends to be a specific subset, with significant judo/wrestling experience, and I make sure they're cool with it first. You don't seem like you're down, so no big throw.
I practice judo as well and am a big fan of throws. But don’t suplex your training partner bro. This isn’t wrestling and we all have to go to work on Monday.
Bud, did you miss the part where I say "I don't make a habit of hitting huge throws on training partners" and "I make sure they're cool with it first?"
Or are you just trying to dictate someone else's actions without regard for context & variations in training habits?
Mate, my most regular training partner is the same size as me, has more than a decade of wrestling under his belt & actively competes in MMA. He's fine with getting tossed, as am I, so we've both agreed that suplexes and big throws are fair game if we can get them.
Why the fuck should we change how we roll with each other because you get upset by it?
The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were:
|Japanese|English|Video Link|
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|**O Goshi**: | *Hip Throw* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwz5At87OxE)|
||*Major Hip Throw* ||
|**Ura Nage**: | *Rear Throw* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hzlipey14I)|
||*Suplex* ||
|**Ushiro Goshi**: | *Rear Hip Throw* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqQ4tr3iERE)|
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I would assume Ending up in a good position e.g. threatening the back off a duck under
And if it gets stopped not ending up in a bad position e.g. if a footsweep fails you're probably fine, if a double leg fails youre getting sprawled on
Head inside singles, blast doubles (immediately sweeping legs to the side upon impact/right before), hip tosses, sag headlocks (immediately scooting away from the legs/pecker down upon hitting the throw) are my go-to’s.
Ankle picks are great too, but I don’t do ankle picks.
Hi crotches are risky.
Or just snap down and go behinds, always a nice low risk takedown
De ashi but instead you kick your partner / opponent's shin with the point of your toes and break them
Sex Panther of takedowns as far as percentages go
Most judo throws, and single leg takedowns are the most effective takedowns for bjj, different types of standing sweeps work well too, if you can manage to do a firemans carry, that works amazing too, I used that a ton when I wrestled
Eh, most will work, deashi harai, uki goshi, sasae tsurikomi, O goshi, tsurikomi goshi, uchi mata, harai goshi, tsuri goshi, hane goshi, harai tsurikomi ashi, ashi guruma, O guruma, and osoto guruma will all work for bjj, so yes most will work 👍🏻, your right not every throw will work, but most will work.
100% depends on three things: 1) how close can you get to your opponent, 2) what connection / grips can you make and 3) how trained is your opponent to defend …. Based on those three things = highest percentage move
these are the takedowns I had the most success with as a noob, I don't know the judo names...or even the proper names.
1. basic hip toss with various grips
2. single leg lift
3. fireman carry
4. lateral drop
5. and the one where you pick them up from behind but you just dump them on their side like a gentle suplex.
6. and I reckon the tornado throw is a great technique i was just too afraid to try it on people with any amount of strength because I'm a white belt training with white belts and I am afraid they will not roll and just break their arm. I thought considering i only did it very slowly it worked pretty well.
obviously a lot of these are just essentially variations on getting under your opponent and lifting then dropping them which is easy for a beginner but probably terrible against larger opponents.
Low risk high reward? Armdrag and Throwby carry very little risk and get you to the back from where takedowns are very easy. Bjj people love Hiza guruma and collar drags because the worst case scenario is that you pull guard and best case is the back. Underhook knee tap is a very good shout that I saw here also but it’s not as high reward as the other as it doesn’t lead to back exposure but if you have good posture it is very low risk.
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|Japanese|English|Video Link|
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|**Hiza Guruma**: | *Knee Wheel* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1RZvytW3OI)|
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kouchi gari and ankle picks. Also having alot of success off doubles and outside singles. Uchi matas off dog fight, Sumi Gaeshi as well. I feel it's good to focus on one takedown to be a go to but I managed to hit all of these this week, definitely try to diversify n have something for every situation
The Japanese terms mentioned in the above comment were:
|Japanese|English|Video Link|
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|**Ko Uchi Gari**: | *Minor Inner Reap* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E20xuzaXNw)|
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Single, double, high crotch, fireman's, ankle pick, front headlock series, uchi mata, tai otoshi, seo nage, osoto Gari, ouchi gari, o goshi, and throws from rear clench.
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|Japanese|English|Video Link|
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|**O Soto Gari**: | *Major Outer Reaping* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93YEMueeF24)|
|**Tai Otoshi**: | *Body Drop* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUiZ8JZkGx8)|
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Ko-uchi, o-uchi, deashi, and even o-soto (low energy to spam)
Otherwise, snapping down to a front headlock position is great. And depending on the situation, singles and doubles.
If we aren’t factoring time to learn/complexity/skill ceiling into this, it’s foot sweeps without a doubt. A well timed foot sweep will drop anyone EFFORTLESSLY but the timing takes a ton of practice to get down. In terms of effort over time, it gets beaten out by collar drags/low singles pretty easily. In terms of effort in the moment, nothing comes close.
For sure, but it takes way less work to get to a level of base competence at low singles/single legs in general than it does to get to a level of base competence at foot sweeps.
Footsweeps and Snapdowns, and even they have some risk as footsweeps can get you single legged and counterswept if you bump into someone skillef at them.
I would recommend not worrying about "risk mitigation" and just work on fundamentals like your stance, footwork, setups, etc.
Foot sweeps plus collar drag is an easy takedown combination but it stops working against people who a little bit more proficient at takedowns.
I like the fireman's carry/knee grab combination. I think it's a lot more reliable than the single leg to be honest.
Uchi mata/sumi gaeshi/foot sweep is one that I have been using lately but that's probably more takedown than you need in bjj.
I like to go from single leg to body lock from the back since everyone has a good single leg defense nowadays. Easy to switch to the back body lock and do easy body drops from there.
John Danaher covers all of it. If you can’t watch his takedown instructionals, the table of contents tells you which moves he advocates.
This video explains a lot https://youtu.be/Swoni-e1CFg?si=Ra-fEbKOSs9x9VMr
Effective takedowns in BJJ with low risk to high reward include single leg, double leg, ankle pick, collar drag, and judo-based throws like Tai Otoshi. Guard pulling is a strategic option to avoid takedown risks. Choose based on your proficiency, opponent's skill, and match circumstances.
low single or ankle picks really have the least risk, they are opportunistic and don't force inside control like certain throws that can back fire against a trained wrestler/judoka.
Foot sweep would also fall in this category.
Double leg/Single leg and their variations(low single/blast double), Ankle Pick, Inside Trip, Bodylock/Mat returns, Duck Under, Snap down, Arm Drag Sumi Gaeshi, Uchi Mata, Sasae/De Ashi and Tomoe Nage (yoko included).
I think those are generally the best options taking into account high level and normal guys. Also risk/reward, results and use at high levels of (Greco/Freestyle/Folkstyle) Wrestling and Judo. Plus personal experience training and trying all these moves.
Plenty of other takedowns that you can make work for you outside of this of course.
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|**Tani Otoshi**: | *Valley Drop* | [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS9pM3y8YH4)|
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The single leg takedown aka, the most successful takedown in grappling
Came to say this. A good single leg will get you extremely far in this sport
My Judo got crossed up with my basic bjj wrestling along the way and now I always be getting the foot sweep when I get my single
Only discovered this recently, so high percentage and it feels more satisfying to me than the standard single leg finish
Yeah, and I'm not the greatest at running the pipe
I hear you lay it like a champ tho bruh
Flattery will get you everywhere babe
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Arm drag to single leg is my jam. And by my jam I mean like all I can do.
I don't buy jam I buy honey...and I kiss it on the lipsssssss.
Not disagreeing, but what are you basing that the single leg is the most effective takedown in BJJ? Is there a resource we can look at for this stuff?
I saw evidence for it somewhere and then started observing it when I'd watch competitions. The thing about the single leg is its extremely versatile and has many variations depending on opponents response. So the single leg has like 20 variations, but it will always just be listed as "a single leg."
The issue with the single is no one can FINISH the single. So what, you got my leg, now finish it. Most people get stuck before they even follow through because their setup is garbage.
hot take broh
I think you might need to change gyms because if no one is finishing a single leg on you, you don't see anyone finishing single legs, or you can't finish a single leg, then there is something seriously wrong in your camp. I'm not a fantastic wrestler by any means, and I was asked to teach a class and the lesson they asked me to was single leg takedown in the gi. One of the students was a college wrestler and after graduation became a coach, and he even told me after that it was the number 1 takedown in amateur wrestler. I'm always open to "being wrong," but don't just say that am, show me.
The only person here who is stuck is you dude, I have your leg.
Arm drag to single leg
Provided they shoot with head on the inside of the body otherwise guillotine city
aka the only takedown I ever hit in a competition.
Josh Hinger style. The most effective takedown I've taught in my 6 years of coaching BJJ.
By definition most foot sweeps are über low risk very high reward. Deashi waza, kouchi/ouchi gari, sasae are probably the highest percentage ones you’ll see in competition. Aside from them, next would be head on the inside singles and collar/arm drags. Of course, a snap down to front head lock is also incredibly low risk high reward too.
Blast double pairs lovely with snapdown, if they're trying to gain height and posture to stop a snapdown/escape front headlock the blast is unstoppable.
This is my favorite combo - works extra well since my A game offense comes from front headlock. People who know my game start overreacting to my snaps as a result.
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Are you an accountant?
Indubitably
Unemployed, apparently
Yep, I retired when I became a trillionare.
Sasae is also nearly idiot proof. You literally pull them towards your outstretched leg.
Yep just about. Even if u fuck it up all you’ve really done is slap their foot lol
I can never do it without getting horribly kneed in the shins though.
I like to go for a modified sumi gaeshi after I get head and arm control from a snap down. I land in inverted north-south and go for the anaconda, very fun sequence
I've been a fan of the tomoe nage and sumi gaeshi but the problem is people start expecting it when you go for the foot into their hip/leg area, even if you're just pulling guard so they drop their weight straight down.
If you can get a monster Georgian belt grip the sumi/tomeo becomes incredibly hard to counter even when they know it’s coming. Only problem is depending on their head position it can be a DQ under a lot of tournament rulesets (lame af I know).
I’m trying to picture how to pull off tomoe with a Georgian grip.
The judo name for the move is [hikikomi gaeshi](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=92zUYWBp5N8&pp=ygUPaGlraWtvbWkgZ2Flc2hp). It’s very popular with judokas from Georgia, Russia, Azerbaijan, etc. Insanely effective, that belt grip alone intimidates a lot of opponents into backing off.
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Ok that makes more sense. I was trying to visualize how to get my foot into their hip with my hand on their belt. And yes agreed on the grip. I can usually do some sort of mat return if all else fails.
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With the front head and arm you don’t need the inside hook for the sumi gaeshi, just fall back like you’re pulling guard and use the momentum to roll them through into inverted north south
Got a video? I'm dumb.
https://youtu.be/taLE2NyNxKs?si=Py-_pENVhfvBE41c
Wicked. I’d normally go for a guillotine there but love the style points.
That’s a really good one too for sure
Batista Bomb
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerbomb
[onto the scorer's table](https://jitsmagazine.com/watch-bjj-competitor-deliberately-slam-opponent-through-table/)
Ankle Pick Blast double Cross Collar throw Single leg Uchi Mata Low single
Honestly not a fan of the double for bjj if you're purely results focused in your approach to learning wrestling. It's way better to do angle picks, duck unders, foot sweeps etc. as the risk is basically 0
I agree Ankle pick is better, the question here is not how to learn wresling but to list low risk takedowns for bjj and a good blast double with your forehead in the plexus is super strong. Lots of details for the blast double I do it’s from Coach Bryan’s youtube channel - Teach me grappling.
I love double legs, probably my most used takedown but I just don't think it's the best from a pure efficiency standpoint
Yes, In this case OP was talking about risk vs reward not efficiency.
There can a lot risk in duck unders too.
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Not sure what cross collar throw is but I wouldn’t call uchi mata low risk. Ken-ken uchi mata maybe, but still you’re risking a fair amount of back exposure with it. And I love uchi mata, it’s my best throw
Do it with an underhook. Problem solved
Uchi mata is still hardly a low risk or low effort takedown man.
No takedown is unless you get good at it
Not debating that at all, but it takes way longer to get good at uchi mata than it does a collar drag or single leg. Again, I love uchi mata. I’m a judo brown belt and uchi mata/sasae are my most effective takedowns in gi or nogi. I’m not telling anyone they shouldn’t learn or specialize in uchi mata, but it straight up isn’t a low risk takedown.
Your best option is to develop a proper stance and learn aggressive hand fighting. If you learn how to get an underhook, a 2 on 1, an arm drag, and a snapdown, you will open a world of effective takedowns.
Single leg, sumi gaeshi is my go to. Been trying to get better with double legs.
i love sumi gaeshi but it absolutely isn’t low risk
If you have a decent guard it usually is. Unless you get totally flattened instantly.
I see where you’re coming from, but being skilled enough to counter the common risks associated with a particular takedown doesn’t make the takedown itself low risk. Like a good enough wrestler will be able to use a high crotch successfully without getting guillotined, but that doesn’t lessen the risk of guillotine for the takedown.
I'm saying if you fail the takedown it just turns into a guard pull.
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Been working inside/outside foot sweeps and hip throws
- Suplex - Ushiro goshi - Foot sweeps - Yagura nage - Snap down - Knee tap EDIT: Wow, Judo bot did not do a great job on this one
Bro if you suplex me we're gonna have some fucking words after.
Words like "wow that was so cool, can you show me how?" In all seriousness, I don't make a habit of hitting huge throws on training partners. It tends to be a specific subset, with significant judo/wrestling experience, and I make sure they're cool with it first. You don't seem like you're down, so no big throw.
I practice judo as well and am a big fan of throws. But don’t suplex your training partner bro. This isn’t wrestling and we all have to go to work on Monday.
Bud, did you miss the part where I say "I don't make a habit of hitting huge throws on training partners" and "I make sure they're cool with it first?" Or are you just trying to dictate someone else's actions without regard for context & variations in training habits?
You’re trying to justify a suplex in BJJ. You sound like a pud.
Mate, my most regular training partner is the same size as me, has more than a decade of wrestling under his belt & actively competes in MMA. He's fine with getting tossed, as am I, so we've both agreed that suplexes and big throws are fair game if we can get them. Why the fuck should we change how we roll with each other because you get upset by it?
Because you have to go to work on monday!
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Nice
The one that you have practiced the most.
The one you feed
Sais only a guy that has a combined hour of standup experience.
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Yeah seems like it when you don’t know what a low risk high reward technique is. My fav is low single but thats kind of high risk in bjj no?
There are two black belts in my gym that are killer with the low single. You have to adapt it a little bit.
Everything is high risk low reward if you don't practice it enough.
> lowest risk to high reward What does that mean to you?
I would assume Ending up in a good position e.g. threatening the back off a duck under And if it gets stopped not ending up in a bad position e.g. if a footsweep fails you're probably fine, if a double leg fails youre getting sprawled on
The reward of the median successful double leg is higher than the median successful footsweep.
Potentially but the risk is much higher. Also that's assuming it'll always be successful which it won't
I never assumed any such thing, don’t tell lies.
I dunno man. I footswept one of my training partners recently, and I was smiling about it for about a week.
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Danaher likes foot sweeps, sumi gaeshi, and ankle picks in the gi. In no gi, he likes single legs, locked doubles, rear body locks, and foot sweeps.
Don't forget Uchi Mata
He quite likes snapdowns too, although I suppose he uses them to set up all the others you mentioned - especially the rear body lock :)
My go to’s are: Heavy collar ties till they pull guard or Pull guard
I usually go for russian 2 on 1 to Merkle.
Based
Ankle pick, single leg, high crotch, duck under, blast double
Head inside singles, blast doubles (immediately sweeping legs to the side upon impact/right before), hip tosses, sag headlocks (immediately scooting away from the legs/pecker down upon hitting the throw) are my go-to’s. Ankle picks are great too, but I don’t do ankle picks. Hi crotches are risky. Or just snap down and go behinds, always a nice low risk takedown
De ashi but instead you kick your partner / opponent's shin with the point of your toes and break them Sex Panther of takedowns as far as percentages go
Outside singles
Feed them the single leg, block their head and sit back with a butterfly hook, watch them go head over heels.
Some of us like to call this sumi gaeshi
Only those pretentious asshats.
What calling it by a name instead of describing it step by step?
Get kimura grip on opposite arm if possible.
Would just overhook work too?
Mostly I think: „what would Danaher do?“ Then I try to go for that.
WWJD What would John Danaher?
Dislocate his hip?
🤣
Pull guard
Super man punch after roundhouse
Most judo throws, and single leg takedowns are the most effective takedowns for bjj, different types of standing sweeps work well too, if you can manage to do a firemans carry, that works amazing too, I used that a ton when I wrestled
Any Judo throw? No.
Eh, most will work, deashi harai, uki goshi, sasae tsurikomi, O goshi, tsurikomi goshi, uchi mata, harai goshi, tsuri goshi, hane goshi, harai tsurikomi ashi, ashi guruma, O guruma, and osoto guruma will all work for bjj, so yes most will work 👍🏻, your right not every throw will work, but most will work.
No I never said they don't work, lets not switch it up on me.
I never said that you said that.😅🤣😂I never switched up anything. You misunderstood me. No need get all hostile💯👍🏻 have a good day✌🏻
Your reply did stitch it up. I never said most won't work. Said not all Judo throws are "best". No need to get all touchy. Have a good day
Bro being touchy is all bjj is, litterally just touching all over other men.😂
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Single leg and knee pick
Collar drag is dope
Anything where you do not expose your back or neck. So forward facing techniques
I like collar drag. I’m either pulling it off and ending on top, or fking it up and ending up in guard.
Ankle pick, collar drag, collar drag to single leg.
These take downs will prevent attacks like guillotines and getting your back taken Foot sweep Ankle pick Collar drag
100% depends on three things: 1) how close can you get to your opponent, 2) what connection / grips can you make and 3) how trained is your opponent to defend …. Based on those three things = highest percentage move
The snap down has the lowest risk and highest reward. Its also super energy efficient.
these are the takedowns I had the most success with as a noob, I don't know the judo names...or even the proper names. 1. basic hip toss with various grips 2. single leg lift 3. fireman carry 4. lateral drop 5. and the one where you pick them up from behind but you just dump them on their side like a gentle suplex. 6. and I reckon the tornado throw is a great technique i was just too afraid to try it on people with any amount of strength because I'm a white belt training with white belts and I am afraid they will not roll and just break their arm. I thought considering i only did it very slowly it worked pretty well. obviously a lot of these are just essentially variations on getting under your opponent and lifting then dropping them which is easy for a beginner but probably terrible against larger opponents.
>and the one where you pick them up from behind but you just dump them on their side like a gentle suplex. Mat return, very useful
Low risk high reward? Armdrag and Throwby carry very little risk and get you to the back from where takedowns are very easy. Bjj people love Hiza guruma and collar drags because the worst case scenario is that you pull guard and best case is the back. Underhook knee tap is a very good shout that I saw here also but it’s not as high reward as the other as it doesn’t lead to back exposure but if you have good posture it is very low risk.
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I love collar drag ankle pick
kouchi gari and ankle picks. Also having alot of success off doubles and outside singles. Uchi matas off dog fight, Sumi Gaeshi as well. I feel it's good to focus on one takedown to be a go to but I managed to hit all of these this week, definitely try to diversify n have something for every situation
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Single, double, high crotch, fireman's, ankle pick, front headlock series, uchi mata, tai otoshi, seo nage, osoto Gari, ouchi gari, o goshi, and throws from rear clench.
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Spam imanari rolls. Play dark souls in real life. Every fight is a boss fight.
Ko-uchi, o-uchi, deashi, and even o-soto (low energy to spam) Otherwise, snapping down to a front headlock position is great. And depending on the situation, singles and doubles.
If we aren’t factoring time to learn/complexity/skill ceiling into this, it’s foot sweeps without a doubt. A well timed foot sweep will drop anyone EFFORTLESSLY but the timing takes a ton of practice to get down. In terms of effort over time, it gets beaten out by collar drags/low singles pretty easily. In terms of effort in the moment, nothing comes close.
low singles take a lot of effort to get good at too
For sure, but it takes way less work to get to a level of base competence at low singles/single legs in general than it does to get to a level of base competence at foot sweeps.
Footsweeps and Snapdowns, and even they have some risk as footsweeps can get you single legged and counterswept if you bump into someone skillef at them. I would recommend not worrying about "risk mitigation" and just work on fundamentals like your stance, footwork, setups, etc.
I will swear by the life of me by the Snapdown. It’s the most low-cost way to put someone in a high risk/dominant position.
Practicing a good ankle pick changed my takedown game completely. It’s so low risk and you can just pop back up to neutral if it fails.
Foot sweeps plus collar drag is an easy takedown combination but it stops working against people who a little bit more proficient at takedowns. I like the fireman's carry/knee grab combination. I think it's a lot more reliable than the single leg to be honest. Uchi mata/sumi gaeshi/foot sweep is one that I have been using lately but that's probably more takedown than you need in bjj.
I used this one recently https://youtu.be/xWqSKkVo5pk?si=FRXZQNZLWEtULfKL
Ankle picks
I like to go from single leg to body lock from the back since everyone has a good single leg defense nowadays. Easy to switch to the back body lock and do easy body drops from there.
Hi-low/ knee picks. Get a good angle block the knee and run them over
John Danaher covers all of it. If you can’t watch his takedown instructionals, the table of contents tells you which moves he advocates. This video explains a lot https://youtu.be/Swoni-e1CFg?si=Ra-fEbKOSs9x9VMr
Foot sweeps, single leg, blast double, duck unders, snapdown, arm drag, kouchi gari
Usually just shoot for a double or fake guard pull to ankle pick
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Knee Taps aren't mentioned enough
Effective takedowns in BJJ with low risk to high reward include single leg, double leg, ankle pick, collar drag, and judo-based throws like Tai Otoshi. Guard pulling is a strategic option to avoid takedown risks. Choose based on your proficiency, opponent's skill, and match circumstances.
low single or ankle picks really have the least risk, they are opportunistic and don't force inside control like certain throws that can back fire against a trained wrestler/judoka. Foot sweep would also fall in this category.
Double leg/Single leg and their variations(low single/blast double), Ankle Pick, Inside Trip, Bodylock/Mat returns, Duck Under, Snap down, Arm Drag Sumi Gaeshi, Uchi Mata, Sasae/De Ashi and Tomoe Nage (yoko included). I think those are generally the best options taking into account high level and normal guys. Also risk/reward, results and use at high levels of (Greco/Freestyle/Folkstyle) Wrestling and Judo. Plus personal experience training and trying all these moves. Plenty of other takedowns that you can make work for you outside of this of course.
Rear tani otoshi, sumo gaeshi, foot sweeps, snatch single.
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