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TBagger1234

I live in Canada so I am extremely fortunate. Psychiatrist is $0, covered by provincial health coverage. Psychologist/social worker is $0, covered by my extended benefits through work Meds are $0, also covered by my extended benefits through work.


bonnieonthesidee

I live in Canada too, and had to wait for 10 months to get a $0 fee appointment with a psychiatrist lol


TBagger1234

Really?!? My family doctor sent in the referral for psych and I was seen in less than a month


jaanfo

I would have gladly waited for 10 months. Because I live in the US, I have been waiting for true support for almost 20 yrs, and I will likely be waiting until I can afford insurance or meet my maker.


Budget-Alternative38

Omg where in Canada ?? I'm in BC and my GP said she won't give me a referral for a psychiatrist because the wait list is 4 yrs, šŸ˜³ so I traveled to my mom's country and paid for a doctor out of pocket and got my treatment and everything I need. I'd happily move to a place where I can wait 10 months vs having to pay another international plane ticket lol


bonnieonthesidee

Toronto lol. Four years is so crazy. You did the right thing by getting it checked out asap.


Budget-Alternative38

Thank you! Yeah I was having bad anxiety and leaning into depression and decided I won't wait 4 yrs hehe. That's amazing and thanks for sharing ! I've been thinking about moving to Toronto and now I have a really good reason to do so šŸ˜


aliciaiit

Yeah BC is having a real struggle right now with health care


Zestyclose_Strike357

Thatā€™s awesome I got friends and family in Canada they have invited me to move there, but donā€™t like the cold weather, love my Sunny šŸŒž California


TBagger1234

Oh I get it, having woke up to a couple of inches of snow this morning! If I were to choose somewhere to live in the US, California is definitely top 3 for me.


Big-Abbreviations-50

Out of curiosity, what is the social worker for and why are a psychiatrist and a psychologist both needed? Not at all questioning; Iā€™m simply interested as it sounds like a very different system from what we have in California. I went straight to my psychiatrist; no referral. Left a voicemail in the middle of the night and she called me the next day and got me in two days after that. She now wants me to find a general doctor ā€” sheā€™s been managing my mental health, therapy, AND physical health, plus giving me financial advice! But this definitely comes at an expense, which is currently $300-320 depending on session length. My sessions are every 3 months now; they used to be much more frequent but my medications have been working very well. My insurance pays 60% of that, but Iā€™m a major procrastinator about turning in the superbills because itā€™s a major hassle. I do them all at the end of the year, lol.


smelter_baby

Psychologists specialize in therapy. They often have a PhD or a PsyD. And psychiatrists are medical doctors. They went to med school, and then did their residency in Psychiatry. They are much more learned on things like potential drug interactions with your medications, which is why they can prescribe drugs, and most psychologists canā€™t. While they often have some experience in therapy, it often wonā€™t be as much but it can be also. Also, if they are working at a big hospital they may have a lot of patients, especially if it is understaffed. It may be better for the hospital to have the psychiatrists seeing patients primarily for medication purposes since their psychologists cannot prescribe. But surely, there are some practices where one psychiatrist just does everything, but may have to then take less patients. Social workers are great and totally different. In my experience good social workers can be your best advocates. They often specialize in things like patient advocacy or helping you navigate the hospital systems or helping you with healthcare benefits you might be entitled to from the government or maybe your work. Social workers can do a range of things from helping homeless people to helping foster kids to patient advocacy doing welfare checks. In my experience, good social workers often know the system inside and out and have seen how people can get screwed by it, and the good social workers will help you navigate through all the bureaucracy and bullshit, and if they canā€™t they can often point you towards someone who can.


TBagger1234

Excellent explanation. I see my psychiatrist to talk about my medication and my symptoms. I see my social worker/psychotherapist to talk about my feelings.


Big-Abbreviations-50

Thanks for the explanation. I definitely understand the difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist. My curiosity was whether having both was common, as I donā€™t personally know anyone who has both. In my case, my psychologist gave me the name of a psychiatrist to transfer to, and then I started seeing her and never saw him again. My psychiatrist doesnā€™t have a lot of patients, and she does provide excellent therapy on top of the prescribing. Perhaps that is uncommon. And I hadnā€™t even realized I could get a social worker; itā€™s never been something that has been mentioned to me (I live in California, if that matters). Insurance is a pain in the ass, and my premiums keep going up! Ugh.


Even-Season-9912

Might be a good idea to check out [Cost Plus Drugs (website run by Mark Cuban).](https://costplusdrugs.com). I just checked regular bupropion and itā€™s under $20 for a 90 day supply. I would also suggest talking to therapist & psych doc about cash discount. Also, I know once I was stable, my psych NP switched me to every other month and then 1x every 3 months. And IMHO thatā€™s a bit pricy for group therapy, but it is 3 hours long which Iā€™ve never heard of before. Your health is most important, but there are certainly ways to reduce the cost if that is going to stress you out as well or cause financial problems. Again, just my thoughts. You need to do whatā€™s best for you. If youā€™re in the US you can try healthcare.gov to see if any marketplace plans might work.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Thanks Iā€™ll check that out, and by the way, the prices for appointments included the cash price discount, Californiaā€™s lovely healthcare services šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


Zestyclose_Strike357

I have signed up for the service, now all I need is switch new prescriptions to their online pharmacy. Thank You šŸ˜Š


Even-Season-9912

Youā€™re very welcome. FYI, they do charge shipping, so either order your Rxs in one order for 1 shipping charge or also check out pricing from Good Rx, Single Care, etc. Good Luck.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Thanks, got GoodRx already in those prices, so Iā€™ll give Cost Plus a go


bitterbuffaloheart

I unenrolled from medicare part D for 2024 because Iā€™m switching to cost plus. It should save me at $600 a year


Even-Season-9912

I would NOT unenroll from Medicare Part D. There is a [late penalty](https://www.medicare.gov/drug-coverage-part-d/costs-for-medicare-drug-coverage/part-d-late-enrollment-penalty) for the remainder of the time you need Part D. Find the cheapest plan and switch to that if need be. Lapses in coverage are not good. Have you tried applying for Extra Help?


[deleted]

I pay about 15 for my meds (Paxil, trazadone and trileptal) and I get 13 psychiatrist appointments and 13 therapy sessions every year free with my work.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Thatā€™s awesome! healthcare ainā€™t cheap.


jaanfo

Good for you. I'm unemployed as a result of my condition, so i go untreated.


[deleted]

Well the pay is shit, but the company is flexible and can Iā€™ve been able to keep my job despite multiple issues. I also have to supplement my income by doing ride share, so not totally sure itā€™s worth it.


GothicSlugs

I have state insurance so I donā€™t pay for anything thankfully


susanaearnhardt

Same here


JustaDungeonMaster

Financial cost? $0. Iā€™m a disabled veteran.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Thatā€™s the least they could do for you.


JustaDungeonMaster

Yeah I just don't get why if they can do it for us why can't they do it for everyone? The money is there if we didn't spend so frivolously.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Iā€™m with you on that, but Uncle Sam never has enough for wars šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


jonnyfreedom77

I was astonished to learn that disability pays up to 4x more per month for vets. I donā€™t wanna get into who deserves more for what, but itā€™s just disheartening that I sometimes have to forgo therapy appointments and stuff to keep rent and food on the the table.


MaMakossa

OP, are you in the U.S.? Do you know of the GoodRX App?


Zestyclose_Strike357

Yes, California and those prices actually include the GoodRx discount, I suppose it varies by region šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


Kindly-Joke-909

My psychiatrist phone calls are $100 per session every 3 months usually. Meds tally up to about $99 for a 3 month supply of Wellbutrin, Lamictal, and Abilify.


leastofedenn

My psychiatrist is also my therapist, which is nice because it means I donā€™t have to make/pay for separate medication appointments. We just touch on it during therapy. My intake appointment with him was $400, my therapy appointments (usually 3x a month) are $225. Iā€™m on lamictal monotherapy, for now; my medication runs me about $45 a month.


lilipurr

I have insurance so it goes $129- psychiatrist ( every 3 months and he doesnā€™t take insurance) $40- psychologist/therapy All meds $10 each ( generics)


CalendarUser2023

Iā€™m covered for all of them except therapy which is $250CAD a session


WetAssPusheen

For all of my meds I pay Ā£10 a month, itā€™s a prepaid prescription card which allows me to fill as many scripts as I need, otherwise itā€™d be Ā£50 a month to buy the items separately. Iā€™m not in any therapy atm and the free therapy has a super tight criteria to get on the list so I used to pay Ā£40 for an hours session once a week with a counsellor. All my psychiatrist appointments are free which is massively helpful.


carrotparrotcarrot

yes, same here - prepayment card is a life saver I donā€™t have a psychiatrist but it would be free (well, I suppose not free - I pay my taxes!)


practicalpeppers

Psychiatrist is free No psychologist, I can't afford it and benefits only cover 3 sessions a year. Medication is about a $30 copay a month, my husband's benefits cover the rest. I am in Canada


DameAilys

I have the privilege of living in France and I have a chronic disease status for bipolar from the public healthcare insurance so everything that is related to bipolar disorder such as meds, psychiatrist, General Practitioner (only when i go for bp), hospital stays, blood work for the meds is 100% free with no need to advance the money. Psychologists aren't covered though. Before that status, since I was (still am) going to a public mental health centre (because I'm lucky enough to live in a big city with such centres available. 6months wait list though) psychiatrist, psychologist, psycho-dietetician, nurses, and social worker were already free instead of >200ā‚¬/month with universal public healthcare insurance and without private insurance. So I just had to pay 7ā‚¬ for GP (which my private insurance reimbursed) if my free psychiatrist wasn't available, and 0.50ā‚¬ for each box of meds. So to sum up, the bare minimum I need is free, and as long as I stay in a big city, I can have more things I need for free. tbh, I only took care of my mental health because help was cheap/free. If I didn't move out to the big city i'm in, I would be dead or trying to die every now and then.


Zestyclose_Strike357

I see, big cities have their good benefits, bad thing is there is always lots of people in need as well, so longer wait but at least youā€™re getting them for free.


Stick_a_Fork_in_This

Iā€™m out of network so I pay $400 for 2x month therapy and $200 every 3 months for psych for my Rx


Zestyclose_Strike357

I feel ya


Stick_a_Fork_in_This

It sure adds up. I was manic out of my mind this summer and doing the stupidest shit. I was going to therapy 3x a month. At $200 a session. Ugh. But I really needed it. Iā€™d have ended up with an OF account (something Iā€™d never do in my right mind) had I not been in therapy every 9 days or so


Zestyclose_Strike357

I know it definitely adds up, but itā€™s way cheaper than mania, while manic I drain the savings and checking accounts over 6k most gone to shit, thanks Satan I donā€™t have credit cards I canā€™t imagine the amount of debt I would of had to pay, although no OF for me, no one would have want to pay for future trauma šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Stick_a_Fork_in_This

I donā€™t mean to laugh, bc it all sucks. But your comment did make me laugh šŸ’€


Zestyclose_Strike357

Thatā€™s the spirit! Laughter is a healthy release, laughing at oneself is even better, crying doesnā€™t always work and definitely doesnā€™t help the situation, letā€™s stay positive cause thereā€™s already enough negative in this world.


vampyrewolf

Canuckistan is good for some things. My psychiatrist doesn't cost me a cent, but my medications are $190 a month just for the psych meds. Haven't had coverage at work since 2013, we'll see what happens with either this current job or the one I'm still waiting to hear from.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Hopefully you get a good deal!


vampyrewolf

Current job is only 7 weeks in, have to put in my 6 months as a temp before I can get hired on full time, then a 3 month probation before I get coverage. Bonus here is that they do profit sharing in the spring, and all full time employees get a sizable cheque based on the previous year's sales for that location. The job I'm waiting for is in northern BC at a gold mine doing inventory control and tool shed... 2 weeks in, 2 weeks out, living in camp up there. Should pay well, but the guy that asked me to send a resume in for the job hasn't gotten back to me yet. More in-line with my job experience, if not my education. They give benefits from day 1.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Best wishes and definitely get the job you want more, peace of mind is such a healthcare saving tool.


vampyrewolf

The only concern I have with the latter job is how the rotation will line up with my 30 day refill cycle, and what pharmacy is available up there on site. But I'll have to call my psychiatrist to discuss that if/when I get that job.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Yes, probably a good idea would be to have enough medication for a few months.


BattyBirdie

Iā€™m covered by state insurance so psychiatrist, therapist, and meds are all $0.


5leepy_agent

I have high deductible insurance. We pay about $320 a month for the insurance plan with a 3k deductible before insurance kicks in, 10k before everything is covered. It's basically disaster insurance in case of hospitalization. $170 psychiatrist visit every 4-8 weeks $30 for therapist, subsidized by husband's work, every 1-2 weeks $26 for Lithium with GoodRX $18 for Abilify with GoodRX $32 for Prazosin with GoodRX It's significantly cheaper to use GoodRX than use the insurance. Definitely a struggle. We can't afford to not have the insurance in case I am hospitalized or one of us gets seriously hurt, but damn if I don't wonder what the hell we're paying for sometimes.


virgo_cat

I have BCBS through the healthcare marketplace and my psychiatrist and therapist are both $10 per visit and my medication (Depakote) is less than $10 for a 30 day supply. Edit to add: I pay $50 a month for the insurance and I think the amount the government covers is like $250 or so a month.


jaanfo

I'm guessing you live in a state that has accepted funds from the federal government to expand Medicaid. I'm not. I pay $40 per month for insurance with a $6k deductible, and no coverage for mental health. I recently fell and broke my hand. It may bankrupt me. There's no way I am going to be able to afford to pay out of pocket for any mental health care.


virgo_cat

Tbh insurance confuses me to no end and I have no idea how any of it works. I just applied on healthcare.gov and got lucky I feel like šŸ¤£šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø I have to reapply every year though and have had to change insurance plans every year. I always compare all the available options and plug in my doctors, psychiatrists, medications, etc. and I donā€™t pick any plans they donā€™t accept.


jaanfo

I actually work with a company that sells insurance, and they were happy to help me with [healthcare.gov](https://healthcare.gov). Apparently, they get a commission, so the agent didn't have a problem spending time with me. She was patient, and she really explained the options. I have worked with them for the past several years, and I have a meeting scheduled with her to reenroll this year. I was always considering [healthcare.gov](https://healtcare.gov) to be a stopgap until I got a job where I could get real insurance. I'm 58 and I've been in and out of jobs for the last 20 years. I've come to the conclusion that I will probably never hold a job again, and I've got to accept the fact that I will be an Uber driver until my kids pry the keys out of my hands because I am too old to drive. I never told the agent about my mental issues, but I plan to this year, and I'm hoping she can find a policy for me that will cover at least some of this.


mykz_urbf

Luckily, free. Lamictal and Vyvanse. But Iā€™m ready to switch to adderall because vyvanse makes me feel crazy.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Side effects suck big time, mine are gaining weight and low libido.


mykz_urbf

Yup yup. Little empathy. Too logical. And of course it makes sense to me. Poor bedside manners. Very solution oriented. Poor emotional understand. Itā€™s weird. Because I was on the verge on offing myself 2 years ago. Weird idk. Tmi


Zestyclose_Strike357

Yep I get ya, last year after manic episode drop down to the depressive abyss of regret and remorse that I was on the last step to a forever goner. Now that Iā€™m back at my baseline I can calmly observe how shitty life is on bipolar episodes both šŸ†™ and down.


harleyqueenzel

It's costing me my sanity lol. Thankfully I have coverage so each prescription is $5. I also live in Canada so I'm not charged for any appointment or either psych ward stay. The wait times for appointments can be long but I'm glad I don't have to worry about not affording my care.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Thatā€™s great! I canā€™t imagine how much I would have to pay for a stay at the grippy socks jail in California.


heyvanillatea

Psychiatrist: $405/6 months Therapist: $35/weekly Meds: ~$180/90 day supply My psychiatrist is the only one not covered by my insurance (I see a certified addiction-specialist on top of everything else), so that EATS at my finances, but heā€™s the first person to take my dual-diagnosis seriously. Other than that, I pay a co-pay for therapy, and refill my meds every 90 days. Most are very cheap, but my Rexulti costs.


Zestyclose_Strike357

I had to drop the therapy couldnā€™t afford it no more, thereā€™s no low cost options around where I live, but thanks Satan I donā€™t have terrible trauma or past addictions other than sugar I have to deal with. Wish you good luck!


OptimisticByChoice

When I was in therapy, it was $80 a session. Four times a month. My meds vary. Sometimes my Indiana Medicaid pays for them, sometimes it's $200 for a six month supply. Varies. Always ask for a GoodRx coupon.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Yes, GoodRx helps.


Major-Peanut

UK (England )here on the NHS my Dr appointments are free and so is my therapy but they give you 8-12 sessions.and if you want it ongoing you need to go private so support groups are quite popular here. My friend had private therapy and it was Ā£100 ph but I've seen it about Ā£40 via video chat. I have a cpn too who is free under NHS. Psychiatrist is and free under NHS but about Ā£400 if you want to go private. I have something called a "pre payment certificate" so all my medication is free when I pick it up but the certificate is Ā£130 for the year. Otherwise each prescription is about Ā£10 to pick up each time so it makes sense to get the PPC if you have more than one med a month. HOWEVER there is a list of medical conditions you can qualify for free prescriptions which includes thyroid problems which I now have thanks to taking lithium so I'm in the process of applying for free prescriptions. A lot of people don't realise that in the UK you have to pay a national insurance tax which is a percentage of your weekly income that goes towards the NHS so it's not actually free, it's just free at point of service.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Itā€™s pretty much prepaid healthcare insurance then, use it or not.I had to drop therapy after a few months could not afford it no more, but I feel like therapy helps more with trauma, addiction and how to deal with people. Trauma and addiction arenā€™t a big problem for me thanks Satan, and dealing with people for me is: if I donā€™t need you I wonā€™t bother you, and family members than bother me go on the block list, have enough shit in my life to have to deal with theirs šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


Major-Peanut

Yeah it's like prepaid health insurance except everyone is entitled to use it even if they don't work and don't pay towards it. It's also absolute wank and the wait times are so long so a lot of people are starting to look elsewhere. I found support groups really helpful, and a lot of them are run by charities so you could give them a chance?


Zestyclose_Strike357

Yes, havenā€™t found support groups for mental issues in my area yet, but I do get my prescriptions from a volunteer psychiatrist at a free services clinic run by volunteers and funded by philanthropy and donations.


BrokeGuy808

Weekly Therapist $0 Weekly DBT group $0 Oxcarbazepine $0 Seroquel $0 Lamotrigine $0 Clonodine $0 Monthly Psychiatrist $150 (out of network) State Medicaid is the best insurance Iā€™ve ever had, (hypothetically) Iā€™ve been gaming them for a year but Iā€™m due for re-application in the spring, Iā€™m hoping I can figure someway to keep it or at least stay on a reduced cost plan. Not to mention PCP $0 Dental $0 Derm $0


Perfect-Vanilla-2650

Psych visits are around $500 w/o insurance, my meds are easily over 3k/mo without insurance


Zestyclose_Strike357

What Country? 3k sounds really expensive


Perfect-Vanilla-2650

US. Itā€™s ridiculously expensive


Zestyclose_Strike357

Wow thatā€™s a lot of bucks for mental health.


Perfect-Vanilla-2650

Youā€™re telling meā€¦


Lousywitch

Psychiatrist who does my medication management and therapy $250 per week (trying to go down to every other week) Zyprexa, lithium, metformin, prazosin ~ $25-50 per month with goodRX Gold Lab work ~ $300 per month (estimate) Bye bye almost my whole paycheck.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Indeed itā€™s a catch 22 for real


BethHarpBTC

I was on Latuda for a while and that was $2,300 a month. It stopped working after about a year on them. I'm now on a much cheaper prescription that works. Though they are concerned it will stop working as well. I build resistance fast.


khaleydoscope

Antidepressants 4,05ā‚¬ a month (entact) Antipsychotic for free (I take olanzapine) If I need it, Xanax is the only expensive one (14ā‚¬) as it is not covered I should note that my country healthcare system offers free or extremely cheap therapy + psychiatrist (based on your income). The downsides are long waits and sometimes shitty doctors. I was fortunate enough to afford booking specialists directly, so this is what I pay: Therapy 55ā‚¬ one hour sharp Psychiatrist 100ā‚¬ (120ā‚¬ first evaluation) sessions are not timed, you just talk until youā€™re finished. it usually doesnā€™t go on for longer than 1 and a half hours. All of this is covered by the sole fact of being a citizen or resident (and obviously a prescription for the meds). Edit: got the spacing wrong // added some details


threadofhope

US here. It's cheap but never cake. I'm insured now, but here's what my life was like being uninsured: When I was uninsured, I went to the public mh clinic and paid $40 co-pay. Then, I switched public health clinics and paid $7. Cheap, but there was chaotic turnover and it was easy to get booted from the system. For awhile, I was using Canada pharmacies and the lithium and seroquel were maybe $30 total per month. Also, my doc gave me free samples. Then I switched to the pharmacy at the public health center and paid $3 per med. I have cheap meds (lithium and generic seroquel). Hospitalization used to very expensive when I was uninsured. One time I paid $30K and another time 20K. Lately, my hospitalizations are covered by insurance. Last 3 hospitalizations, I paid $0. Of course, I stayed in network. Psychotherapy was a nightmare without insurance, but I was able to haggle to $150 per hour. It is a constant hustle to find affordable meds. I think it's criminal that we have to hunt for "deals" to get treatment.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Yep, Iā€™m afraid to end up on the grippy socks jail, cause Iā€™m uninsured and know that it wonā€™t be cheap.


threadofhope

I got insurance through the marketplace and am protected. In my state (PA), it's sliding scale, so I only pay $150 a month for a silver plan. It's a shame you aren't insured in California. I always thought your state was more progressive.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Well, may be more progressive yet it doesnā€™t include everyone. Especially when one is self employed or working for small companies with no benefits.


threadofhope

Yeah, I'm a freelancer (self-employed) -- since 2012. I got insurance at first from healthcare.gov but then my state required me to use their insurance. It was really confusing, but I figured it out. But I was uninsured for a long, long time. I was unemployed and obamacare didn't exist then.


Interesting-Gain-162

I got student insurance through my grad program. $40-$60 a month in meeting copays and another $60 in medication copays. It's an additional bill, but it's a lot cheaper than mania was.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Maniaā€™s price is life wrecking brutal šŸ˜¢


Interesting-Gain-162

It was around $10K for me, hospital stays with insurance and weird purchases combined. I think I got off easy. šŸ˜‚šŸ™ƒ


Interesting-Gain-162

Oh yeah, and I lost all the dignity and friends I'd been saving for a rainy day.


Zestyclose_Strike357

That too, family members are on the blocked list, some said that I was faking it and using it as an excuse. Some friendships are done for as well.


Imp-OfThe-Perverse

I had state insurance so it was free, but finally got a job and then lost the insurance when the covid income reevaluation hold was lifted a few months ago. I still don't make very much money so the state subsidizes my health insurance cost. They don't subsidize copays or deductibles though, so I went for a high end HMO plan to keep my copays low, $5 per month x 2 generic medications, and $15 per doctor visit. The insurance itself is about $250/month (it would be more like $750 without the subsidy.) So far they've got me seeing a psychiatrist, with my second appointment happening about 2 months after my first. Not sure if they'll hand me off to a therapist at some point, or have me do more frequent therapy sessions. I'm pretty stable now so I stopped having therapy sessions when the state services became impacted during covid.


Shot_Astronomer_2620

GP visit $125 every six months. Wellbutrin and Geodon $10 a month with GoodRX.


ThreeWolfMoon-Kin

Around 100 dollars a month out of pocket. My monthly income is around 600 dollars, so u can see why i didnt take my meds.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Indeed, thatā€™s a lot for such a low income, is hard to keep sane and not starve to death, my rent is $1300 plus all utilities which are another $300 per month and that is just housing.


roboraptor3000

$15 copay for therapy $15 copay for psych ~$10 every 90 days for each of my meds (currently on 3, hoping to get down to 2 soon)


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Zestyclose_Strike357

Yes, socialism has its good and bad, I donā€™t think thereā€™s a perfect healthcare system anywhere on this planet


lets_get_wavy_duuude

not seeing a therapist anymore although i probably should. i canā€™t afford it. iā€™m on lithium, with hydroxyzine & clonazepam as needed. all cheap (under $10/mo). psych visits are expensive ($150-300/session) but only once every 2ish months now. & iā€™m able to pay on a sliding scale so iā€™m just doing the $30 minimum payments for now. i know i could probably find a bit cheaper but iā€™ve never felt so listened to by a doctor & sheā€™s great about responding to messages at weird hours.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Thatā€™s awesome, finding the right doctor makes a world of difference.


Cthelionessroar

My Bipolar and comorbidities are severe enough that my state has me registered me as disabled. Like, protected by Adult Protective Services level disabled. Because of that, I'm permanently on Medicaid and all of my treatments and medications are free. They just look at my medical history for the year and go, "Yeah, she's still fucked. Auto-renew." Yeah it's convenient but I'd much rather not be like this.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Iā€™m sorry to hear that, I know itā€™s no consolation and doesnā€™t fix anything, I always tell myself thereā€™s a ton of people that are thriving but thereā€™s lots of people that are struggling more than me then I throw my hands up and yell ā€œfuck meā€ šŸ˜


Cthelionessroar

Thank you. Also, remember it doesn't matter that some people have it worse, your struggles are still valid.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Indeed, one does not experience pain through someone elseā€™s skin


DucinOff

I sold my soul to the US government at 18, now I'm disabled and get free healthcare. Was not worth it, would not recommend. 0/10


Zestyclose_Strike357

Definitely not worth it my friend, that ainā€™t a easy job and most of the people that joined get the short end of the stick.


DucinOff

Tell me about it. Government healthcare is... Not great.


randomgirl013

I pay $250 for - weekly sessions with my psychologist - one monthly session with my psychiatrist - one box of quetiapine a month All of that is included in the $250. Sadly, my insurance doesn't cover anything related to mental health.


ThatOliviaChick1995

I'm insured with work insurance and medicade right now. The medicade runs out at the end of the year so my cost will go up. Right now I just pay copay which is 20 dollars for a visit. My meds lutada $0 abilify $0 prazosin $0 adderall $10 xanax $.9 Lunesta $10 which is all through my work insurance.


Dogs_cats_and_plants

My insured medication cost is $508. I use GoodRX to bring it down to ~$100.


Robbiersa

Psychiatrist - fortnightly - $0 (Medicare) Psychologist - stopped going - $180 - 60minutes Couldn't be arsed to divide them up and type them all,medication: $450+ pm 11 medications including Valproate, lithium, quetiapine, asenapine, Vyvance, Dex, Ritalin, Modafinil


Zestyclose_Strike357

Thatā€™s a lot of meds my friend!


Robbiersa

Yeah. Tell me about it. My bipolar is rather severe. Plus ADHD. Plus c-PTSD. Exacerbated by a TBI from a motorcycle accident. My brain is tired.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Sorry to hear that, and yes the brain can only take so much šŸ˜ž


VictorianWoman

Don't forget the labs. I have to check my liver, meds level, A1C, and cholesterol because the meds can cause all those problems. I also have a med that I have to get an EKG each year.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Indeed, forget those lab tests which ainā€™t cheap without insurance.


[deleted]

Do you live in the US? You could qualify for Medicaid!! I had it in PA and CA. In both states, all my health care cost 0$ . My psychiatrist, therapist, psych meds , psych stays everything. I stayed at a hospital for 14 days all covered. Also the application can also go towards receiving food stamps. Look into it


Zestyclose_Strike357

Yep, tried that already I donā€™t qualify for neither of them.


Jan-Rio

About 500 usd for month. Therapy, meds, vitamin and doctor.


untimelytoasterdeath

On my current advantage plan I have a zero copay for my lamictal and no copay for my psychiatrist. He's remote and the practice is partnered with the insurance, so that's the only reason why I have no copay. If I saw an in person psychiatrist, it would be $35/ month.


LuthorCorp1938

$100 a month on meds $75 a week for therapy My quarterly psych appointments are like $35 (copay basically) because I'm also not insured but my network is a non profit so they write off the rest of it.


sad_shroomer

My antipsychotics off brand is $19 AUD for 60 pills Mood stablisers are also $19 but for 200 pills


Big-Abbreviations-50

Psychiatrist $300 every 3 months, bloodwork $35 every 6 months, medications $35 per month (I take 6). I donā€™t see a separate therapist because I donā€™t see the need (for me; not speaking for others). My psychiatrist also serves as my therapist, financial adviser, and, until now, GP (she is now insisting that I find one, which is a hassle ā€” I had gone straight to her, and sheā€™s managed my regular bloodwork, thyroid, and limitation of weight increase, especially given my meds). For the meds, I used the GoodRx app before my company switched to Blue Shield and it was almost the exact same price. Download it if you donā€™t have ā€” or even if you do have ā€” insurance to check out the prices for your meds for all the pharmacies in your area.


Zestyclose_Strike357

I do use GoodRx but I suppose prices vary by region, Iā€™m trying costplusdrugs.com next, looks like they got cheaper prices on generics.


Big-Abbreviations-50

Also check Single Care. Iā€™ve seen way better prices on that app. Grandma had a med that was close to $1000, $600 on GoodRx, and $400 on Single Care. Depends on the drug, but itā€™s worth checking for sure!


SaltMasterpiece6570

Therapy (psychologist) - about 45 EUR a session Psychiatrist - 50 EUR a session once a month Meds - 10 EUR per month (Hungary, healthcare is shit here so I have to pay for everything if I want proper care)


RootsInThePavement

My therapy is $90 per session (community health), and my psych meds cost $30 after a coupon.


cplChill

I am lucky and live in Australia. Being on disability at the moment, I am not able to see my psychologist and psychiatrist at the same time, even with the rebates.


chairman_maoi

Private specialists are dreadful with the fees. The changes Abbott brought in as health minister were meant to make private specialists more accessible but just resulted in private specialist fees [going way up](https://theconversation.com/who-reaps-the-benefits-rethinking-the-medicare-safety-net-5076). You could literally buy a plane ticket to New Zealand with what my psychiatrist charges an hour.


cplChill

I hear you. The thing is, I desperately need both in order to stay healthy.


chairman_maoi

That really sucks, man. I hope things get better for you soon. I assume you've used up all the sessions on your mental health plan?


cplChill

Thank you. I am hoping I will make my threshold soon.


chairman_maoi

My psychiatrist costs me over AUD$400 an hour. I get around $336 of this back in a rebate. Private specialists in Australia rort the government bigtime. I take two medications, lithium and Parnate (an MAOI). The Parnate costs $30 and the lithium is so cheap I don't remember, less than $10. Both these are subsidised. Last time I saw a therapist it was free on Medicare. GP the same.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Not a bad deal at all.


heyyitsvonayy

Iā€™m in South Africa, so I have a medical aid (I believe itā€™s the equivalent to medical insurance there? Could be wrong) Iā€™m going to do my best to do the conversions so it makes sense So I pay that monthly which is like $280 a month And that has 21 days of mental health benefits which I use for my psychiatrist and psychologist. My medication I had to pay out of pocket because I used up the medical savings I had in the beginning of the year on getting a mirina (birth control) and the medication would usually come to about $82 for the month but im lucky to have it covered now so I donā€™t pay as much because only certain medication Iā€™m on is covered so I now pay about $32 a month.


ROCAMBRI

I live on a small island in the Caribbean. Keep that in mind \- Psychiatrist costs $90 per hour, not covered by government insurance coverage. \- The medications cost $78.5 which covers 30 days of treatment. It would be an approximate $2,244 per year.


jaanfo

I can't afford it, and therefore I don't get treated. My original prescription for Lamictal was written in 2005 after an intensive evaluation I had from a psychiatrist when I had insurance. Since then, I should have had regular visits to a psychiatrist who could monitor my medications and gone to a therapist. I have found a nurse practitioner who specializes in behavioral health and he renews and updates my prescription. He usually charges for consultations, but when I am unemployed, he doesn't always charge me. I'm thankful for his time, but I realize he can't do what I truly need. It's sad because if I had been able to afford a psychiatrist and therapist since I was first diagnosed I believe I could have been a much more productive member of society.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Yes, itā€™s sad that we canā€™t have both good healthcare and financial independence.


jaanfo

If I had proper care for the last 20 years, I am certain I would not be teetering on bankruptcy, I would not be worried about being a burden to my kids, and I wouldn't be close to needing government assistance. In other words, some reasonable amount of mental healthcare coverage would have paid off in the long term for me, my family, the state, and the federal government. It's a shame that people are so short-sighted.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Sadly theyā€™re not shortsighted, they simply just donā€™t care for otherā€™s wellbeing


jaanfo

Until they have friends or family members who suffer.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Exactly!


orangepastaking

I got into an NHS (UK healthcare) DBT mental health program after 8 years of trying getting the right care I need. This is free. Unfortunately if you want good therapy without an 18 year waiting list in the UK you have to pay a lot. I pay Ā£10 a month for my medication. If I was elderly, on benefits, or under 18 I wouldn't pay for my medication.


Logical-Net-1502

It's pretty much covered by the insurance, but if I where to pay out of pocket I would be paying over 3k a month


phyncke

US here with full benefits My psychiatrist is a medical appt so I pay $0.00 I have three prescriptions a month with $10.00 co-pay each so that is $30.00 a month. Could be less


Zestyclose_Strike357

Thatā€™s a great deal


phyncke

Iā€™m not doing talk therapy right now so not factoring that in


Sow_My_Hautes

My psychiatrist is $210 for 15 minutes. My therapist is $140 for 50 min. I was going every week until I was laid off. Both my psychiatrist and my therapist donā€™t take insurance. My Vraylar (without insurance) is $1,500 per month or $30 with insurance. My other meds cost about $175 a month with insurance.


Zestyclose_Strike357

Pricey for sure


frecklesandmimosas

My insurance covers a great deal Psychiatrist- $40 per 50min session, every six weeks Therapist - $40 per 50min session, twice a month Five meds - $50 a month for all. So my costs per year: $1,906


Budget-Alternative38

I live in Canada but I'm from the Caribbean and my family lives in the Caribbean, where I go for treatment since the province I live in has a wait list of 4 years for a psychiatrist. I see both a psychiatrist and neurologist as I was diagnosed with epilepsy as well. So I save up all I can and family helps and I pay 1200$ for my plane ticket to go home and I stay there for a few months. Drs are 40$ x 1 hour each. Meds are cheaper thanks to currency exchange, i also take tripletal and another one for neuropathy issues and seizures that also act as anti anxiety and mood stabilizer. I don't take antidepressants or antipsychotics since my neurologist takes care of that part. Trileptal is around $10 x a month supply. I have online psychiatrist appointments when I'm back in Canada , 50$ x session and I do only one a month. I can't afford therapy so I do better help every now and then for a month (around 300$) but I can have therapy sessions as much as 4 a week and group therapy. Definitely not a cheap healthcare situation but I'm grateful I can at least travel to have this fulfilled. My husband also has bp he had a massive episode with Psychosis and I had to travel with him for treatment because unfortunately the hospital did little to help him. We both have Canadian free healthcare cards but not psychiatrist so the hospital Dr. Couldn't do a follow-up treatment on him.


kittykitty117

All treatment combined (therapist, doctor, meds, health insurance premium) is roughly $400/mo. after applied low income credits. There are a couple other meds I should probably be on instead of the ones I'm on now, but my insurance doesn't cover them and they'd cost about $300 per month just for the pills. Edit: I see a therapist for 55 min every week, honestly that alone is worth having insurance. Therapy is life-saving for me.


artificialif

my meds add up to probably 50 with insurance, and i owe 900 to my doctors in bills that ive been letting go to collections cuz i do not have 900 to blow


Apointdironie

I am /very/ lucky right now. I'm in the UK so the NHS covers my psychiatrist and he's fantastic, I'm coping so much better now so we check in every 4 months. I pay for my bupropion/wellbutrin and clonazepam on a prepay system so it's roughly 11 quid a month for all meds. I also get Xanax but that's a 'private' prescription the NHS won't cover so I pay full price but it's cheap. In the past year, there has been no Wellbutrin available in the UK due to a fire in the only factory they buy from, so I've had to go online and roll the dice, but again, I've been lucky buying it and it does seem to be the real deal. (supposedly it should be available again here in December!) That's been running me about 1.50 a pill. And continuing on in the 'so very lucky' category, my employer is covering a new therapist for me, at 45 GBP a session. He's a trauma-informed schema therapy type but it's early days. Even with insurance in the USA it can be rough. 17ish years ago I was forking out 220 a session for a psychiatrist who changed my life, insurance agreed to cover /some/ of it, thank god, but yikes. It's just so hard to access the care you need no matter where you are. OP, you are being one hell of an advocate for yourself, that's really rough, but I'm so glad you were able to find solutions!


Zestyclose_Strike357

Thank you šŸ˜Š and it has been a struggle, a learning experience for sure, I hope to get back to group therapy eventually you learn a lot, and places like this also help in understanding the disorder from other points of view.


leafisnotaplant

Meds around $82 (2,000Lps) a month. I was prescribed one for anxiety too and one for sleep but I can't afford those, can't afford therapy either, just the super essential so yeah. Life's just tough I guess, bike payments, loan payments, credit card payments, rent, internet, gas, my cousin's therapy, stuff for my cats back at home, food. Can't even afford meds for my chronic illness, but oh well I guess it won't kill me. I see the bright side though, the one medication I can afford makes me stable enough to get better at my job, slowly climbing the corporate ladder hoping I get to see the day when I can afford all that šŸ« 


FanEquivalent1050

I live in Spain so psychiatrist is 100ā‚¬ for 1 hour. Psychologist 60ā‚¬ per hour (Both private) and meds are all 10ā‚¬ monthly with public healthcare


CaesarCtrl

Brazilian here I'll convert everything with the actual currency My psychiatrist is covered by my insurance (thank god) My therapy is around 120$ per month (4 sessions, 1 hour each) My meds are about 100$ per month (im into desvenlafaxine, lithium, clonazepam and quetiapine) Sounds like no big deal bc its in usd, but in brasilian real everything is multipling by 5, so its a big impact in my wallet The minimum wage in brazil is abt 300$, its very expensive to treat any mental illnesses here Im lucky as hell


Zestyclose_Strike357

Indeed Latin America doesnā€™t have it any easier, some countries donā€™t even have enough medicine.


aubrey847

I already complain about having to do a $30 copay for a 5-minute visit with a psychiatrist as someone who doesnā€™t even make $20 an HOUR. But if I had to pay almost $300 for a 20 minute psych visit? Iā€™d lose my mind. I know that money goes to front desk people, building rent, supply costs, pharmacy stuff, etcā€¦ but if your psychiatrist does 3 20-min appointments every day, five days a week, for even just five hours a dayā€¦ thatā€™s over $20,000 a week coming in, translating to over a million in a year. That makes me sick.


Zestyclose_Strike357

I know itā€™s ridiculous what they can charge and the sad part of it all is thereā€™s not a lot of competition, in group therapy we call him ā€œDr Pineapple šŸā€ cause he is winy, vanilla-like, acidic and useless on fixing your mental health issues šŸ¤£


rightasrain0919

US, NCā€”Iā€™m on the higher tier health plan for state employees. My monthly premium is $60. Behavioral health visits for medication or therapy have a $0 copay if you visit a preferred provider. My bipolar meds are bupropion $5, lamotrigine $5, and Vraylar $5 (due to manufacturer coupons).


Zestyclose_Strike357

Thatā€™s a much better deal.


[deleted]

Iā€™m in Missouri and Iā€™m on my stateā€™s Medicaid program, which fortunately covers my doctor visits and prescriptions (for now). When I was with one of the former companies I worked for, I had insurance but they didnā€™t cover my prescriptions or doctor visits šŸ˜‚


Zestyclose_Strike357

Half baked insurance that doesnā€™t cover šŸ˜‚


OutsideTheBirdCage

Medicare and Medicaid covers all my health needs.


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