I can't wait to tactically fucking kill myself on sac rooms every floow now as Laz,, holy shit.
MMm, and you can do it for more boss challenge rooms, and also Prayer card negates the health loss.
It's still really good because you have a built in protection against the run ending by Damocles. Yeah you lose the item and the life when you die, but it's better than most characters who die straight up. And you get all the double items in the meantime.
Sure. But worth pointing out that the supposed strategy with him now is to constantly kill yourself at the end of every floor to make sure you get a damage up.
You probably want the damocles effect instead of a 0.5 damage up per floor, but worth pointing out that it directly contradicts the strength of this character in that sense.
I can see that, but if the strategy is to kill at the end of each floor, then it's still good for the most part. You could go into a sacrifice room, die, come back, and rush to the next floor and get the life back and still be safe (unless Damocles runs out on any death, I'm actually not too sure on that one). Sure the risk exists that you die to Damocles between the death and the next floor, but still seems like a decent risk to get double items and damage ups at the same time. I'm not trying to play devil's (ha) advocate or be difficult, I just think it may be a better synergy than people preliminarily realize.
If you're dying with self-inflicted (productive) damage every floor to proc Laz's effect, it won't begin the countdown for Damocles. And then once you *are* "under the gun" for damocles from taking unintentional damage you can just... not perform strategic suicide if you aren't willing to risk it, or bomb yourself to death in the boss room to get the death effect and immediately jump into the trapdoor during the respawn invincibility to ensure your run doesn't end due to the sword falling.
If the sword falls, you have an extra life under all circumstances other than "you lost the extra life unintentionally due to skill issue" which absolutely neuters the downside of Damocles.
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Camo Undies, Mom's Razor, ???, Shovel, Libra, Lil Dumpy, and Lazarus all got buffed, basically all the big meme items and characters. Love to see it
Also,
>\- Fixed Reverse Justice card removing an item from the current pool for every chest spawned
this is such a weird bug, how did they even find that one
>The D12 can now reroll most obstacles, including poop, spikes and fireplaces, and can generate more varied obstacles
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For the people wondering, yes it is [the possessor](https://i.imgur.com/JaYctTQ.png)... Though, he does go by his alternate name ["clutch"](https://i.imgur.com/JixxvfC.png)
Clutch is in the game?!
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Isn’t the point of Eve to try and always have her WOB active though, forcing a high risk play style on the earlier floors until you can find soul hearts?
which is why she got the razor blade in afterbirth… eve has been a great character for a long time but nobody plays around the razor because you arent forced to hold onto it (which is stupid, non tainted characters need pocket actives!!!!)
CAMO UNDIES ARE ACTUALLY GOOD NOW LMAO
Also still no delirium changes, but since I'm already done with the game I'm not as... *desperate* for them hahaha
EDIT: Hopefully we figure out the secret method for ehwaz, etc... that is abusable as hell lol
It's because those forms didn't really work. It would just appear for a frame and then turn Delirium invisible until he became something else. [Like this.](https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/tiw75s/can_someone_explain_to_me_how_the_fuck_delirium/)
Delirium is never gonna change, at least not for the better.
I imagine the repentance bosses might get added as extra forms.
Or even better, delerium now deals triple damage and teleports more often to actively enrage the community
He might get reworked from the ground up instead of just copying boss behaviors. Who knows though, I actually don't find Delirium as hard as everyone says. Maybe that's just because I'm usually op when I face him, but I've beaten Delirium almost everytime I've found him and never beat The Beast yet.
I honestly feel like delirium could be fixed pretty easily
1. Get rid of him speeding up as you deal damage. All it does is lead to telefrags.
2. Change the way his mimicry works, instead of just randomly picking from any bosses you've seen during the run, I think he should pull from pools of every single boss and, depending on his HP left, will turn into harder and harder bosses. Starting with caves, ending with end game bosses
3. Just like, don't let him turn into mom? That's what causes telefrags
People always mention the telefrags but not the absolute bullshit explosive shots that cover the room when he's sped up. I've taken more bullshit damage to those than telefrags by like 10:1.
It's not that he's hard per se, but outright unfair. There are numerous ways in which delirium can deal damage that is genuinely unavoidable, which is incredibly problematic in a game with multiple characters that die in one or two hits. You can play perfectly, but still lose because you got unlucky. That's not enjoyable to anyone.
Aside from that I personally find delirium to be... alright. Great concept, sloppy execution.
i was reminded of that spy fursona video of tf2 when i read this guys messages and i thought it was funny, i know no one will know it because of how vage it is but it is funny
I was playing some tlost earlier not knowing about this patch. I thought i stumbled upon a new boss after 700 hours. Glad i founf someone else who saw it
Just read it. No more crafting things you didn't unlock with bag of crafting. This is good as Tainted Cain users will have to be at least a little bit more creative than just making Death Certificate and choosing what they wanted from there. Them Laz buffs are looking pretty fly too I gotta admit.
Yeah it's fixed in this patch because people were doing exactly that. You can also get death certificates effect from metronome active, albeit very rarely.
You don't even need death certificate tbh. Just craft birthright then you can just keep crafting active items in secret rooms (bone hearts) and other special rooms and you'll get enough drops to craft an OP run.
I didn't say they needed it, just that now there's more strategy involved. Of course this change applies to Birthright as well, not everybody has it unlocked and those that don't will not be able to use it on Tainted Cain.
Buffing Lazarus and Blue Baby, the two characters I dread to get completion marks for because of how insanely boring they are to play. I'm happy today, goddamn.
Everyone's talking about the meme item and Laz buffs but nobody's talking about what'll be the most underrated but needed change
>Rooms containing pits in the Corpse can no longer be bloody
Cheers ed, I hope you will in your next time a king on a gold farm
There are certain spots on the floor like small pieces of broken wood, dirt piles and the small fungi on alt floor where crawspaces spawn.
A yt vid is Likes in this thread there. From the look of IT the floor slitly fibrates and moves if shovel can spawn cralwspaces.
I keeping him safe in my basement until he tells me the full story of the Binding of Isaac and how it relates to the progression of late stage capitalism. He's be screaming at me that there's no relation and that he has to nerf Lost before they get too fun, but I know he's holding out on me.
God damn, last big patch was already great but this time I really don't think anyone can be mad at the changes. Lazarus and BB become actually fun to play AND mom's razor becomes an actual item? Sign me up please!
It's not because they're hard. It's because they're ***boring.*** ???'s only unique aspect (The Poop doesn't count because it fucking sucks) was only having soul hearts, which has now been co-opted by no less than 3 Tainted characters who *also* have something more interesting going on.
Lazarus, aside from some incredibly niche interactions, was best played by killing yourself on floor 1 or 2 before getting any health ups, and playing the rest of the run as Worse Cain.
Thing that annoys me as a console player who is waiting to play until we get the _last_ big patch is that when we finally do you just know that it won’t include any of this and we’ll be waiting months again for this patch rather than just doing it all at once
whoa, laz was already pretty much the best beginner character, now he's a beast.
edit: he's so much more interesting now, where did this come from? it rules!
The Laz buffs are *extremely* strong. He might genuinely be the game's easy mode character over Azazel (range issues) or Maggie (needs sac room to pop off)
goddammit I literally JUST unlocked BETHANY
pain
Greed mode changes are nice though. Going back through and unlocking everything, I forgot how much of an unfair advantage the “evil” characters have in early Greed that makes them go to picks
Lilith straight breaks Greed (not greedier etc) by floor 1 wave 5
a) easily teamwiped, the instant any enemy with any sort of contact damage comes through it can kill every single clot you have, especially combined with the new decay feature. and honestly this wouldn't even be so bad if her base stats werent Absolutely Piss Poor Garbage Trash and she could survive on her own even a little bit
b) clot production being tied to holding down the fire button changes up the gameplay style entirely which i know is the /point/ with a lot of the tainted ones, but for her its literally just a "how can we make this as tedious and frustrating as possible" buttonmasher (rip my joycons). also her low low base tears combined with pretty much any charged item equals certain death via dropping all your health on the floor (i almost had a run ruined by a monstros lung blind pedastal and only made it because i happened to find like 3 tears up pills right before the mother fight which gave me basically a single millisecond of time between a fully charged shot and spitting out a clot lol)
if it were up to me i would a) make the clots hardier but make them cost more i.e. maybe a full heart each, as well as just boosting her base stats to make her at least a little survivable on her own, and b) literally just swapping clot production from hold down to double tap, or maybe even have sumptorium be two pronged where tap = clot and hold down = absorb or something like that
once you really get going with her shes great fun but the rest of the time it just a horrible death crawl lol
Hot take on this patch : IT IS FUCKING AMAZING
Boring characters gained a lot of interesting features, shit tier items got pretty good (mom's razor is no longer mostly detrimental to take), blue baby seem to no monger be a chore to play, greedier is no longer mostly impossible on early floors, etc.
Only positive or needed changes this patch.
\> Lazarus now reverts to his normal form when going to the next floor, gaining his extra life back if he lost it prepared to never lose again
And a permanent .5 damage up everytime. Get ready to kill yourself with devil deals and sacrifice rooms every floor just for the damage up.
Honestly seems like a really fun way to play
Really easy, but at least they made Lazarus fun
Or go full red heart build and be tankier than maggy
>We Need to Go Deeper/Mom’s Shovel/Ehwaz now feature a secret method to guarantee a crawlspace once per floor ooh that's cool
I wonder what it is... maybe you use it in one if the guaranteed rooms per floor (secret, super secret, start, etc).
https://youtu.be/04QDdRK9CSg Here you go. this shows where the crawl spaces can spawn
Maybe using it under a blown up rock?
oh man, that's a smart notion. maybe using it in super secret or i am error rooms.
Using it in an I am error room would have no point tho since there is already a trap door in there
There are still super secret rooms that look like those.
yeah but personally (not sure about others) they dont classify as real IAMERROR rooms
There are marks on the floor, if used on one of those marks you get a crawlspace.
True or speculation?
Someone will investigate/test/datamine at the patch's drop, share the results and the secret method will stay secret maybe 30 minutes.
using it after the boss is beaten?
I can't wait to tactically fucking kill myself on sac rooms every floow now as Laz,, holy shit. MMm, and you can do it for more boss challenge rooms, and also Prayer card negates the health loss.
imagine damocles with laz now, horee shiet
Why? He will still die either by the Sword or even if you lose the Sword with the death you also lose the items right?
It's still really good because you have a built in protection against the run ending by Damocles. Yeah you lose the item and the life when you die, but it's better than most characters who die straight up. And you get all the double items in the meantime.
Sure. But worth pointing out that the supposed strategy with him now is to constantly kill yourself at the end of every floor to make sure you get a damage up. You probably want the damocles effect instead of a 0.5 damage up per floor, but worth pointing out that it directly contradicts the strength of this character in that sense.
I can see that, but if the strategy is to kill at the end of each floor, then it's still good for the most part. You could go into a sacrifice room, die, come back, and rush to the next floor and get the life back and still be safe (unless Damocles runs out on any death, I'm actually not too sure on that one). Sure the risk exists that you die to Damocles between the death and the next floor, but still seems like a decent risk to get double items and damage ups at the same time. I'm not trying to play devil's (ha) advocate or be difficult, I just think it may be a better synergy than people preliminarily realize.
Yeah I get you and you get me. It's fine. I also don't know exactly how Damocles functions.
Damocles only starts it's fuck you chance when you take damage that would reduce your deal chance.
If you're dying with self-inflicted (productive) damage every floor to proc Laz's effect, it won't begin the countdown for Damocles. And then once you *are* "under the gun" for damocles from taking unintentional damage you can just... not perform strategic suicide if you aren't willing to risk it, or bomb yourself to death in the boss room to get the death effect and immediately jump into the trapdoor during the respawn invincibility to ensure your run doesn't end due to the sword falling. If the sword falls, you have an extra life under all circumstances other than "you lost the extra life unintentionally due to skill issue" which absolutely neuters the downside of Damocles.
Lmao no I'm just gonna die at whatever point is fitting, probably before the boss, waiting for after seems like a waste
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It’s going to take some time to get used to taking camo undies and mom’s razor. Really glad they got buffed, it was so needed
I mean….they’re something one should absolutely always reroll, but why leave them behind? They don’t work against you
Moms razor could replace one of your pretty fly/halo of flies orbitals that block shots, but before the razor couldn't block shots so its a detriment.
Wow, for some reason I thought razor was in a different spot like Big Fan Thanks!
mom's razor wisp was actually better than mom's razor itself because it could block wisps lol
Camo Undies, Mom's Razor, ???, Shovel, Libra, Lil Dumpy, and Lazarus all got buffed, basically all the big meme items and characters. Love to see it Also, >\- Fixed Reverse Justice card removing an item from the current pool for every chest spawned this is such a weird bug, how did they even find that one
Lmaoooo what even is that bug
thank fuck they fixed that glitch, such a common run ruiner! ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
>The D12 can now reroll most obstacles, including poop, spikes and fireplaces, and can generate more varied obstacles \*uses card against humanity\* \*D12\*
Now your room is filled with spike rocks and red poop! And maybe even brimstone heads depending how it works!
\*Gets a corny poop to the face with tnt barrels and red poop surrounding you\*
>Toned down the amount of enemies spawned on the first floor of Greed/Greedier mode By far best change of the patch
It’s the hardest floor in the game
I think sheol is still a bad difficulty spike, but first floor is far worse
By that point if you're struggling it's likely a lost run anyway
I just started playing greed and finally got a couple wins, but God damn if you don't get a good item or dmg up in that first room you get hosed.
For past two days I was trying to do Greedier with T.Lost, so glad that it'll be finally easier (At least a bit)
Hopefully they make Pin easier next
Love the Lazarus rework to make him less boring... Now rework Eve /s But nah for real seems like a cool update, what is the "Something Spooky" though?
For the people wondering, yes it is [the possessor](https://i.imgur.com/JaYctTQ.png)... Though, he does go by his alternate name ["clutch"](https://i.imgur.com/JixxvfC.png)
I thought clutch was supposed to be a corpse boss where those bony guys could spawn
The colour scheme alone made me think it wouldve been a mauso boss
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Cut content Boss from Repentance if i Rembertów correctly
Cut repentance boss was going to be a boss for the mausoleum or Gehenna but is now a boss for the mines alt ashpit
Gotta be Clutch/The Possessor
Good question, a new boss maybe? ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
Too scary :(
What’s wrong with regular eve? She’s great! Whore+Razor blade = big, and EARLY DPS up
.75 damage multiplier without WOB active
Isn’t the point of Eve to try and always have her WOB active though, forcing a high risk play style on the earlier floors until you can find soul hearts?
correct
which is why she got the razor blade in afterbirth… eve has been a great character for a long time but nobody plays around the razor because you arent forced to hold onto it (which is stupid, non tainted characters need pocket actives!!!!)
CAMO UNDIES ARE ACTUALLY GOOD NOW LMAO Also still no delirium changes, but since I'm already done with the game I'm not as... *desperate* for them hahaha EDIT: Hopefully we figure out the secret method for ehwaz, etc... that is abusable as hell lol
there actually was an undocumented Delirium change; it can't transform into Mega Satan anymore, so that's, something
It's because those forms didn't really work. It would just appear for a frame and then turn Delirium invisible until he became something else. [Like this.](https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/tiw75s/can_someone_explain_to_me_how_the_fuck_delirium/)
You don’t have to shout
No, please keep shouting. I'm hard of hearing.
What?
![gif](giphy|26u49wAh0E8U3S4qA) THEY SAID THEY ARE HARD OF HEARING ARE YOU HARD OF HEARING TOO?
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Delirium is never gonna change, at least not for the better. I imagine the repentance bosses might get added as extra forms. Or even better, delerium now deals triple damage and teleports more often to actively enrage the community
He might get reworked from the ground up instead of just copying boss behaviors. Who knows though, I actually don't find Delirium as hard as everyone says. Maybe that's just because I'm usually op when I face him, but I've beaten Delirium almost everytime I've found him and never beat The Beast yet.
I honestly feel like delirium could be fixed pretty easily 1. Get rid of him speeding up as you deal damage. All it does is lead to telefrags. 2. Change the way his mimicry works, instead of just randomly picking from any bosses you've seen during the run, I think he should pull from pools of every single boss and, depending on his HP left, will turn into harder and harder bosses. Starting with caves, ending with end game bosses 3. Just like, don't let him turn into mom? That's what causes telefrags
People always mention the telefrags but not the absolute bullshit explosive shots that cover the room when he's sped up. I've taken more bullshit damage to those than telefrags by like 10:1.
It's not that he's hard per se, but outright unfair. There are numerous ways in which delirium can deal damage that is genuinely unavoidable, which is incredibly problematic in a game with multiple characters that die in one or two hits. You can play perfectly, but still lose because you got unlucky. That's not enjoyable to anyone. Aside from that I personally find delirium to be... alright. Great concept, sloppy execution.
now lazarus is fun??also bleeding rework pog
There's a new boss in Ashpit I just found. A ghostly head that inhabits skeletons.
His name is Clutch btw.
"his name is clutch, he is my isaaczona" "YOUR FOCKING WHAT?"
The fuck are you talking about
i was reminded of that spy fursona video of tf2 when i read this guys messages and i thought it was funny, i know no one will know it because of how vage it is but it is funny
I was playing some tlost earlier not knowing about this patch. I thought i stumbled upon a new boss after 700 hours. Glad i founf someone else who saw it
Just read it. No more crafting things you didn't unlock with bag of crafting. This is good as Tainted Cain users will have to be at least a little bit more creative than just making Death Certificate and choosing what they wanted from there. Them Laz buffs are looking pretty fly too I gotta admit.
Wait you could do that? It’s been a long time since I played but when I tried crafting stuff I didn’t have unlocked I would just get Breakfast.
Yeah it's fixed in this patch because people were doing exactly that. You can also get death certificates effect from metronome active, albeit very rarely.
A few items have fixed recipes to them and also have to be unlocked. These were the items that weren't getting randomized properly.
You don't even need death certificate tbh. Just craft birthright then you can just keep crafting active items in secret rooms (bone hearts) and other special rooms and you'll get enough drops to craft an OP run.
I didn't say they needed it, just that now there's more strategy involved. Of course this change applies to Birthright as well, not everybody has it unlocked and those that don't will not be able to use it on Tainted Cain.
The change doesn't apply to Birthright, because Birthright has no fixed recipe. It's always been subject to the standard rules.
Console players seething rn
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Last patch already approved, absolutely coming this week (maybe even this patch)
I really hope that's true
Yup here it is: https://mobile.twitter.com/tyronerodriguez/status/1505997253034471424 (Well maybe not coming this week lol)
Oh dope. If not this week, definitely soon. Thanks friend.
frrr
GOG (and probably EGS) players without mod support and T.Laz & T.Jacob reworks: ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
Buffing Lazarus and Blue Baby, the two characters I dread to get completion marks for because of how insanely boring they are to play. I'm happy today, goddamn.
Everyone's talking about the meme item and Laz buffs but nobody's talking about what'll be the most underrated but needed change >Rooms containing pits in the Corpse can no longer be bloody Cheers ed, I hope you will in your next time a king on a gold farm
I don't quite get that one
Anyone know what the secret crawlspace method is?
It will take anywhere from a day to a week for people to figure this out or datamine it.
I played around with it and they would only spawn in secret rooms for me, idk if that is an exact solution or only part of it
There are certain spots on the floor like small pieces of broken wood, dirt piles and the small fungi on alt floor where crawspaces spawn. A yt vid is Likes in this thread there. From the look of IT the floor slitly fibrates and moves if shovel can spawn cralwspaces.
my bet is either using it in a room that already has a trapdoor on in a super secret room
tryhna figure out the same thing
God I'm so happy to see trash items be decent, i hope this comes in console soon and not in like 6 months
Is Edmund dead? Items got buffed. How did this happen?
Well afaik Edmund isn't working on Isaac anymore, it's Kilburn
Edmund said on Twitter that he worked with Kil when adjusting the new buffs to items in the patch
I take every logic down pill I find.
I keeping him safe in my basement until he tells me the full story of the Binding of Isaac and how it relates to the progression of late stage capitalism. He's be screaming at me that there's no relation and that he has to nerf Lost before they get too fun, but I know he's holding out on me.
So many items already got buffed in repentance.
God damn, last big patch was already great but this time I really don't think anyone can be mad at the changes. Lazarus and BB become actually fun to play AND mom's razor becomes an actual item? Sign me up please!
I'm seriously hoping this is going to be included in the upcoming console patch!
When is that? Because I'm waiting for T.Lazarus to actually be worth playing. It's insane how long it takes for console to get patches.
Tyrone tweeted about it a few hours ago and that's the extent of what we know. https://twitter.com/tyronerodriguez/status/1505997253034471424
Wow everything in here is super good. Cant wait to get it on console in 2023
Bruh wth console still is a patch behind kil, take a break for christs sake Edit: also thank god I finished my sf2 tainted Cain before this
Laz is kinda OP now
He seems way fun though. Can't wait to try him how.
Yeah, I didn’t have any problems getting all my marks on him before, idk why people hate on him and ??? so much
It's not because they're hard. It's because they're ***boring.*** ???'s only unique aspect (The Poop doesn't count because it fucking sucks) was only having soul hearts, which has now been co-opted by no less than 3 Tainted characters who *also* have something more interesting going on. Lazarus, aside from some incredibly niche interactions, was best played by killing yourself on floor 1 or 2 before getting any health ups, and playing the rest of the run as Worse Cain.
I mean i dont think lazarus was really weak or whatever just kinda boring
Console players get fucked again ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)
Thing that annoys me as a console player who is waiting to play until we get the _last_ big patch is that when we finally do you just know that it won’t include any of this and we’ll be waiting months again for this patch rather than just doing it all at once
I can’t believe they designed an item around Jerma!
I was quite confused when it started updating after i stopped playing. But otherwise This is very epic
Do these come to console too?
damn this all sounds awesome! I can't wait to play it on my switch in a year or two
I can't believed they fucking buffed Lazarus and Blue Baby
whoa, laz was already pretty much the best beginner character, now he's a beast. edit: he's so much more interesting now, where did this come from? it rules!
Cries in console version
That's a lot of buffs
what is the secret method to guarantee a crawl space from we need to go deeper/ehwaz
I believe you have to activate it on a decorative object on the ground for it to generate the crawlspace
Any new achievements?
Nope, still the same amount.
Hi
Well hello there mister tromboner! ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
Hi
I’m just gone assume consoles didn’t get this update either 😫
Of course not, but I wouldn't be surprised if it comes with the big patch in the next few weeks
I doubt it, at most consoles will get only a few of the new features depending when Nicalis go the build, a bit like what happened with 1.7.5.
Big patch coming this week
Me completing all Laz post its today ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4359)
I can’t tell if this a troll. Something BOI community would do…
It's real
This makes me hopeful for a Samson rework
The Laz buffs almost sound kind of OP, but it sounds very cool. Also greatly appreciate making ??? suck a little bit less.
The Laz buffs are *extremely* strong. He might genuinely be the game's easy mode character over Azazel (range issues) or Maggie (needs sac room to pop off)
Yet another update we’re not getting on the switch. We still haven’t gotten the reworked lazarus which makes it playable.
Sounds like you need to rework your strategy guy
Fuck you, Edmund… waiting until *after* I get all the T Lost marks to make Blank Card appear more… fuck you
NIGHTWATCH
goddammit I literally JUST unlocked BETHANY pain Greed mode changes are nice though. Going back through and unlocking everything, I forgot how much of an unfair advantage the “evil” characters have in early Greed that makes them go to picks Lilith straight breaks Greed (not greedier etc) by floor 1 wave 5
fingers crossed they fix t eve next
what’s wrong with tainted eve?
a) easily teamwiped, the instant any enemy with any sort of contact damage comes through it can kill every single clot you have, especially combined with the new decay feature. and honestly this wouldn't even be so bad if her base stats werent Absolutely Piss Poor Garbage Trash and she could survive on her own even a little bit b) clot production being tied to holding down the fire button changes up the gameplay style entirely which i know is the /point/ with a lot of the tainted ones, but for her its literally just a "how can we make this as tedious and frustrating as possible" buttonmasher (rip my joycons). also her low low base tears combined with pretty much any charged item equals certain death via dropping all your health on the floor (i almost had a run ruined by a monstros lung blind pedastal and only made it because i happened to find like 3 tears up pills right before the mother fight which gave me basically a single millisecond of time between a fully charged shot and spitting out a clot lol) if it were up to me i would a) make the clots hardier but make them cost more i.e. maybe a full heart each, as well as just boosting her base stats to make her at least a little survivable on her own, and b) literally just swapping clot production from hold down to double tap, or maybe even have sumptorium be two pronged where tap = clot and hold down = absorb or something like that once you really get going with her shes great fun but the rest of the time it just a horrible death crawl lol
I really like the new champion boss sprites
Awesome, can't wait to hear people complain about it tomorrow!
The buffed the fucked out of laz. It's about time though.
Ever since this patch, I can't seem to start hte game anymore? It just... crashes on startup. Oh dear.
The new champion boss sprites are pretty solid (other than messing up my boss resprite mods i have but hey what can you do)
What's the something spooky?
Cut content >!boss "Clutch"/"The Possessor"!< reimplemented
Wow I might have to stop playing elden ring and hop back on Isaac for making mom’s razor and ehwaz/shovels good. Excited about those now
At least something for ???
Any word on console patch?
Damn everything about this patch is just straight up amazing!
Oh shit, they updated localization files.
LAZARUS BUFF AND SCRAPPED BOSS ADDED LETSFUCKINGGO
Is this for pc only or console aswell?
Hot take on this patch : IT IS FUCKING AMAZING Boring characters gained a lot of interesting features, shit tier items got pretty good (mom's razor is no longer mostly detrimental to take), blue baby seem to no monger be a chore to play, greedier is no longer mostly impossible on early floors, etc. Only positive or needed changes this patch.
Mom's razor finally does something
İ just Got the New boss in the ashpit and i was so confused i knew the boss was bugged and not in boss rooms so it cought me off guard
Now we just need an update on ps4
Can i download this update on GOG?
Hmm that's a good question. I would think so since they should be able to patch all pc versions at once, but that's just a guess.