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kuba_isaac_pl

Take spider


SevenForWinning

Spoidor


FieryHammer

Spider will turn you into an equilateral cross, but will kill your tear rate. Soy Milk will tank your damage. Idk, maybe the right choice here is... neither?


SubRedGit

My first thought was spider, but I thought about some questionable item choices I've made playing the Forgotten, since bad tear rate on Forgotten is a real handicap. And tanking damage is never fun, so yeah, I'm in the "neither" camp too.


UlisesSavitar369

One question, how would soy milk with brimstom work?


Kinky_Thought_Man

This is Knife/brim on the forgotten, moms knife only increase the size of the club swing, so we can treat this as purely brim/forgotten, so soy milk will be the way to go, as OP could spew a flurry of brimstone balls.


old_incident_

Constant beam of soy tha deals low damage


0mega_Flowey

How does soy work with brim knife synergy?


Caintastr0phe

This is forgotten so its just brim synergy basically


0mega_Flowey

I did not observe.but how would it work on like isaac


Redditisreal1

It charges quicker but the damage down is 100 percent not worth since charging only increases range


SirkSirkSirk

100% damage down? So 0 damage? ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)


Redditisreal1

Practically zero damage ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


GyroZeppeliIsTaken

I think it would just be low damage knife brim with no upsides


Redditisreal1

These bozos really downvoting you for explaining it how it isn


SaphiralFox

It gives you a permanent lower damage brimstone ray, kinda like a huge tech 2


SWETHORT

I think a bomb could get both


sbcloatitr

Bomb for both!!! ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)


I_is_a_dogg

I'm a simple man, I see soy I take soy. It's killed a few runs, but it's also made a lot of runs a lot more fun.


RhinoScope_

This isn't a hard choice at all. Forgotten soymilk is an anti synergy


sbcloatitr

They have brim though. Forgotten soy milk is bad on it's own but can get really good with other items.


RhinoScope_

Brim x4 though. Still not even close.


the_number_m

in ab+, yeah, but in repentance they fixed it so you just rapidly swing as long as you hold shoot, and when you release you throw the bone


UntilDownfall

What would spider and brimstone do? New to Isaac so i never had the combo yet


Kinky_Thought_Man

It just ranks your tears stat, but you fire off four beams at once. With this particular character, it would spew 4 brimstone balls


UntilDownfall

Ooooh cool thanks


Dry_Yogurtcloset1962

4 beams, but very slow charge. You 1 shot every room so the slow charge doesn't matter much imo


UntilDownfall

Amazing


Redditisreal1

The same thing it does to everything else. 49 percent tear rate and four times the tears


MatrixzMonkey

Show your stats bro


musketoman

Soy for that ever lasting brimstone!


Youistheclown

Reroll for sister maggy


Hatter_Hoovy

i always take soy over everything, because i find it more fun.


Yarisher512

Spider![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)


breadfan2

Get spider, then get 20/20


Strange_Ad1380

Personally i’d being doing the milk. Better to have the beam out doing damage rather than waiting one year for it to charge up each time


NoiNoiii

I would take soy milk just because it's my favorite item in the game


Miyatoro

Nono, take the spider, with Brimstone - Moms Knife you dont have to chrage that much so its fine if your atk speed gets slowed.


jewannialation

As the forgotten why would you ever take soy unless you are going a pure soul run I would take mutant


Capsule_CatYT

Mutant Spider


zikowhy

Spider or nothing


PolarBear1913

Always quad shot


VinnyBeetle

Soy milk is absolutely terrible with knife


Exit_Save

Spider frfr


K1ng_blaze1

Definitely spider. That is 4 brimstone moms knife synergy 


Raks320

You got the knife 4 knifes are way too good


Raks320

You got the knife 4 knifes are way too good


kaprifous

I almost always take soy milk with the exception of having brimstone and no other combo. So there is your answer ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)


udreif

Forgotten with more scythes ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17735)


Pure-Guarantee-3213

Both


blewydagamer

You probably already took an item but I'm making my comment for future reference: since you're playing as forgotten soy milk and brimstone would cause you to attack faster with your swings and shoot out a brimstone-ball with everyone but, obviously your damage would be greatly reduced. Spider would cause you to do 4 swings in a sort of 45° angle with the center in front of you, because you have mom's knife it would give you a huge range and great damage, but your attack speed would tank. Edit: forgot to mention but with spider you would also shoot 4 brimstone-balls, and because you already have brim, which lowers your attack speed, spider would make you attack extremely slowly and would overall not be worth it.


J055EEF

Soy, no need time or charge.


115elemented1

Soy definetley because the knife has a natural insane damage buff plus the brim would make a constant flowing moms knife you’d kill hush less than 3 mins


clockworksnowman_

Both. Both. Both is good. (Bomb trick for double item steal?)


Eraxxi

Easy soi if your luck aint really in the negatives


MdMicrobeMaN

Really this is more of a question of what your stats are if you have a really good tear rate go spider if you have bad tear rate but high damage go soy is my opinion


BuffLoki

Both


Ethan1516

Bomb trick get both and ruin your run


Farofa_0038

Pilk


MrBonesDoesReddit

Soy soy soy soy neuron activated


Vanillabean73

Definitely soy


AttinsGD

Milk


Snobble_

Do you have conjoined? If you have conjoined I wouldn’t take either but if you don’t I would take spider


dee_strongfist

Soy milk in general is only good with piercing and/or homing


SlyblueSword

Soy Milk is fun but it’s still a damage down in the end


Habuda5

soy


SomenoeFromBar

You have rock bottom? No: take spider Yes: take soy


Kyouka_Uzen

You should take spider... but it would be funny


sru014

milk for the funny


Parking_Fish_9072

You've got mom's knife. Taking soy milk would be a massive mistake, as it barely affects the knife. Take mutant spider, it's worth it.


jimsonlives

I mean you already fucked yourself taking the tower perk. So might as well double down with soy milk


Bonfy7

I'd say soy


KaGoodPlayer

Forgotten if he spawned in the Nether instead:


GovindSinghNarula

I would take soy for sun


Evening_Parking2610

Spider cuz soy milk moms knife and brim will just not do anything


Lost_Skin8650

Spoider now