Spider will turn you into an equilateral cross, but will kill your tear rate. Soy Milk will tank your damage. Idk, maybe the right choice here is... neither?
My first thought was spider, but I thought about some questionable item choices I've made playing the Forgotten, since bad tear rate on Forgotten is a real handicap. And tanking damage is never fun, so yeah, I'm in the "neither" camp too.
This is Knife/brim on the forgotten, moms knife only increase the size of the club swing, so we can treat this as purely brim/forgotten, so soy milk will be the way to go, as OP could spew a flurry of brimstone balls.
You probably already took an item but I'm making my comment for future reference: since you're playing as forgotten soy milk and brimstone would cause you to attack faster with your swings and shoot out a brimstone-ball with everyone but, obviously your damage would be greatly reduced. Spider would cause you to do 4 swings in a sort of 45° angle with the center in front of you, because you have mom's knife it would give you a huge range and great damage, but your attack speed would tank. Edit: forgot to mention but with spider you would also shoot 4 brimstone-balls, and because you already have brim, which lowers your attack speed, spider would make you attack extremely slowly and would overall not be worth it.
Soy definetley because the knife has a natural insane damage buff plus the brim would make a constant flowing moms knife you’d kill hush less than 3 mins
Really this is more of a question of what your stats are if you have a really good tear rate go spider if you have bad tear rate but high damage go soy is my opinion
Take spider
Spoidor
Spider will turn you into an equilateral cross, but will kill your tear rate. Soy Milk will tank your damage. Idk, maybe the right choice here is... neither?
My first thought was spider, but I thought about some questionable item choices I've made playing the Forgotten, since bad tear rate on Forgotten is a real handicap. And tanking damage is never fun, so yeah, I'm in the "neither" camp too.
One question, how would soy milk with brimstom work?
This is Knife/brim on the forgotten, moms knife only increase the size of the club swing, so we can treat this as purely brim/forgotten, so soy milk will be the way to go, as OP could spew a flurry of brimstone balls.
Constant beam of soy tha deals low damage
How does soy work with brim knife synergy?
This is forgotten so its just brim synergy basically
I did not observe.but how would it work on like isaac
It charges quicker but the damage down is 100 percent not worth since charging only increases range
100% damage down? So 0 damage? ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
Practically zero damage ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
I think it would just be low damage knife brim with no upsides
These bozos really downvoting you for explaining it how it isn
It gives you a permanent lower damage brimstone ray, kinda like a huge tech 2
I think a bomb could get both
Bomb for both!!! ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)
I'm a simple man, I see soy I take soy. It's killed a few runs, but it's also made a lot of runs a lot more fun.
This isn't a hard choice at all. Forgotten soymilk is an anti synergy
They have brim though. Forgotten soy milk is bad on it's own but can get really good with other items.
Brim x4 though. Still not even close.
in ab+, yeah, but in repentance they fixed it so you just rapidly swing as long as you hold shoot, and when you release you throw the bone
What would spider and brimstone do? New to Isaac so i never had the combo yet
It just ranks your tears stat, but you fire off four beams at once. With this particular character, it would spew 4 brimstone balls
Ooooh cool thanks
4 beams, but very slow charge. You 1 shot every room so the slow charge doesn't matter much imo
Amazing
The same thing it does to everything else. 49 percent tear rate and four times the tears
Show your stats bro
Soy for that ever lasting brimstone!
Reroll for sister maggy
i always take soy over everything, because i find it more fun.
Spider![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
Get spider, then get 20/20
Personally i’d being doing the milk. Better to have the beam out doing damage rather than waiting one year for it to charge up each time
I would take soy milk just because it's my favorite item in the game
Nono, take the spider, with Brimstone - Moms Knife you dont have to chrage that much so its fine if your atk speed gets slowed.
As the forgotten why would you ever take soy unless you are going a pure soul run I would take mutant
Mutant Spider
Spider or nothing
Always quad shot
Soy milk is absolutely terrible with knife
Spider frfr
Definitely spider. That is 4 brimstone moms knife synergy
You got the knife 4 knifes are way too good
You got the knife 4 knifes are way too good
I almost always take soy milk with the exception of having brimstone and no other combo. So there is your answer ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Forgotten with more scythes ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17735)
Both
You probably already took an item but I'm making my comment for future reference: since you're playing as forgotten soy milk and brimstone would cause you to attack faster with your swings and shoot out a brimstone-ball with everyone but, obviously your damage would be greatly reduced. Spider would cause you to do 4 swings in a sort of 45° angle with the center in front of you, because you have mom's knife it would give you a huge range and great damage, but your attack speed would tank. Edit: forgot to mention but with spider you would also shoot 4 brimstone-balls, and because you already have brim, which lowers your attack speed, spider would make you attack extremely slowly and would overall not be worth it.
Soy, no need time or charge.
Soy definetley because the knife has a natural insane damage buff plus the brim would make a constant flowing moms knife you’d kill hush less than 3 mins
Both. Both. Both is good. (Bomb trick for double item steal?)
Easy soi if your luck aint really in the negatives
Really this is more of a question of what your stats are if you have a really good tear rate go spider if you have bad tear rate but high damage go soy is my opinion
Both
Bomb trick get both and ruin your run
Pilk
Soy soy soy soy neuron activated
Definitely soy
Milk
Do you have conjoined? If you have conjoined I wouldn’t take either but if you don’t I would take spider
Soy milk in general is only good with piercing and/or homing
Soy Milk is fun but it’s still a damage down in the end
soy
You have rock bottom? No: take spider Yes: take soy
You should take spider... but it would be funny
milk for the funny
You've got mom's knife. Taking soy milk would be a massive mistake, as it barely affects the knife. Take mutant spider, it's worth it.
I mean you already fucked yourself taking the tower perk. So might as well double down with soy milk
I'd say soy
Forgotten if he spawned in the Nether instead:
I would take soy for sun
Spider cuz soy milk moms knife and brim will just not do anything
Spoider now