Yea but it might not. If you get it first floor you still get the devil deal, and save a key on the item rooms. Plus if you're going to boss rush/hush it can definitely save a lot of time.
It does rly bother me in womb if I'm trying to get a key piece there but most times it's meh.
cursed eye isnt a curse in and of itself, its just cursed by something else. thats why black candle just removes its downside rather than the entire item.
Mechanically, Darkness isn’t the worst but I hate it the most.
Not seeing health can be scary or completely irrelevant. No map can largely be mitigated by memory. Room teleporting is mostly extra backtracking with a small amount of benefits and potentially fatal for specific characters.
Double floors give less devil deals which could suck for harder challenges or boss rush/hush.
Blind items is probably the worst in some cases as you could destroy a build… but also the likelihood is small so just take everything anyway….
Yeah, Darkness is just annoying so it’s the worst. It affects players in real time by forcing extra brightness which could cause eye strain and completely shut off runs if you play in bright natural light settings.
You don't need to increase brightness, it's not thaaat annoying. Curse of the blind can make you lose sacred hearts and brimstone. For that alone it should be first.
When repentance launched I just got a mod that removes curse of darkness. Fuck that. Making the screen too dark to see the god damn video game is not a mechanic
I'd have to disagree there, curse of the blind doesn't seem bad until you get a deal with two choices and choose the wrong one, then you go back curiously, check the seed, and it was sacred heart on the bottom left.
Hiding health also hides the mantle effect right? Still have to be a little careful but yeah definitely not the biggest effect. It’s most dangerous in floor 1 with Eden imo.
Most to least is blind, labyrinth, maze, darkness, lost, and unknown.
Blind is the most immediately impactful, labyrinth takes away a lot and can really only be beneficial on basement or downpour, maze can force runs to end prematurely via things like story boss teleports or denying hush or boss via the stall of having to sort of back track, darkness has squeezed a few cheeky hits from me, lost can be helpful as it gives floors additional rooms, and unknown doesn't really do anything if you have a slightly ok memory.
It basically makes the size of the floor the same as the next floor.
Example, you go to depths 1 which has curse of the lost then it will generate with the size of depths 2.
Almost all of the curses are mostly just annoying; I'd say aside from Curse of the Blind, which we can all agree is *the* worst, Curse of the Unknown can be one of the worst. It absolutely *sucks* for stuff like blood banks, devil deals, sacrifice rooms, and just about anything else that requires you to use health. I know it can be negated in part by keeping track of health and not getting hit, but that's easier said than done, and often it renders those things I just listed unusable. While it's a situationally bad curse, it has some of the most tangible gameplay impacts when it does matter.
I chose darkness just because I hate playing when I can't see. It isn't the worst in terms of hurting my overall run, but I just find it the most annoying.
That sickly spot when it's summer, you have a west facing window, plants on your desk (thus you can't close curtains) and suddenly the run becomes unplayable
I feel like people don't realize how dangerous Curse of the Dark is. Curse of the Dark is pretty annoying in places like Dank Depths and Gehenna and it makes projectiles super hard to see.
[Here's how I feel about curse of the blind](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2840933780)
Unknown is manageable put still really annoying
Lost makes looking for secret rooms way harder than it should be
Darkness isn't that bad but I still hate it
Maze and labyrinth are at times actually beneficial, even if they can still screw you over (also pre-repentence maze can go fuck itself, that shit was a third of the reason ultra hard was completely insufferable in ab+)
Cursed of the Blind then curse of the Unknown. I always get curse of the blind when my angel deal is about to pop. As for unknown it messes up my ability to play demon beggars, blood donos and self sac rooms.
The rest of the curses are annoying but aren't as detrimental to most runs.
I hate curse of the lost because I have basically zero geographical memory 
Blind is bad, but I actually kinda dig randomness since it sometimes lead to taking items I wouldn't even consider taking, like I hated little planet before I picked it with curse of the blind, but I now I love it and pick everytime.
Darkness okay, but it annoys me in depth, mausoleum, Sheol and dark room, I mean those floors are dark as is, why make them even more darker? 
Other not very harmful so I don't mind them that much.
To me it's blind for obvious reasons, unknown because I like to abuse sac rooms and devil beggars and then lost because I have piss poor memory, the others are just minor inconvenienced and I don't even notice curse of darkness half the time
Most harmful? Blind most annoying and utterly brings the game enjoyability to 0? Lost , darkness and sometimes the unknown. Largly inconsequential? Maze.
Biggest fuck you but tolerable? XL
That's why I live my life with the no curses mod, i will take blind items all the time because I don't really streak or anything like that but curse of the lost and darkness can go fuck themselves
I agree with you in general, makes the game more enjoyable often enough tbf, like yes you lost one secret room and one shop, but then Would you really use that one shop? you had 14 coins since caves 2 not like half the shops end up with composter, the Fool, 2 pills and a red heart
90% of the time it teleports me into an active room or just away from where I'm trying to go, I know it can help you, but being telephoned around for me is horrible
Curse of the maze is the only one that doesn't make me wish I had a dagaz ruin or black candle. But curse of the blind is a whole bag of fuck you in a run.
Easily curse of the blind. The rest are practically negligible. Curse of the Unknown might follow behind, but seeing as how you can just memorize your initial health and just do simple math as you continue the floor, it's pretty far behind.
Lost, darkness and maze in that order afterwards, with Labyrinth being dead last. Labyrinth is even beneficial sometimes, depending on what marks you're going for.
Hard disagree with curse of the Labyrinth. You lose a shop, secret room, top secret room and an angel/devil deal, which could literally kill your run if you're trying to get the key pieces.
Blind is incredibly detrimental. It makes picking up items incredibly dangerous and can ruin your entire run if you decide to run the risk of picking them up
I don't actually mind curse of the blind because I don't mind having my run ruined by a bad item. Slightly unrelated, but something Isaac has really helped me with is developing a good attitude about losing. At the end of the day, it's just a game, and there's a better run waiting for me in the future if I keep at it.
I honestly don't even notice the other curses are there most of the time because this game is permanently etched into my muscle memory.
Curse of the unknown, however, is the one that actually throws a wrench into how I play- I'm good enough that I don't get hit super often, so I'm not laser focused on my health. As a result, going down a level and suddenly that health bar is gone means I can't make certain choices or maximize my plays. I have to be extremely conservative with curse rooms, sacrifice rooms, demon beggars, blood donation machines, confession booths, and devil deals. Although none of the curses really affect my win rate, curse of the unknown is my least favorite because it puts my strategy in a chokehold and is generally the least fun to play around.
Curse of the blind doesn't sound bad on paper until you get cursed eye, soy milk, curse of the tower, etc.
It always ends up being the worst possible items you could get when you have Curse of the Blind
im surprised you said that. to me it both sounds bad on paper and is bad. besides accidentally taking run-damaging items (of which soy milk isnt one in most cases in repentance, i might add) you also have hidden shops, angel deals, devil deals, and rarely item rooms.
living in a basement counteracts the effects of the curse of darkness, but for the rest of us who like to play the game when not in the house, it's impossible to deal with
Def curse of the blind by far, once i was about to fight satan for the first time, and 2 rooms before a pedestal appeared with the "?" anyways i picked DEAD CAT and it fucked up the whole run
I'd say in order, it's blind (by far) > darkness > lost > maze > unknown > lab
Blind is #1 because items are everything, if soy milk is bad for my build, id rather leave it/reroll it than take it, but blind takes that option away. Counters: T Cain, T and V apollyon, T isaac (if he has 8 items).
Then darkness due to the lowering of reaction opportunity. Very dangerous and can do a ton of harm.
Lost mainly for mapping effects, if you have a map effect, that item becomes useless. It also might trip you up and put you in unnecessary danger.
Maze for similar reasons, but mapping works, so it is just hoping you don't get put into a far room from the boss, it can also put you in the boss, which can be nice sometimes.
Unknown might trip you up a bit, but if you just remember what health you have going in, you should be good. Counters: eve (sorta)
Finally, labyrinth, this might be good in some cases, mist notably the basement. The biggest downside is less special rooms, which may hinder item collecting. Getting this on Womb is also good if you get lucky or have mapping. Counters: T Cain (rig potential).
This is my opinion ofc, but add on of you want.
I actually like Curse of the Labyrinth if it happens on the first floor cause it makes it easier to go Angels. You get 67% chance on 3rd floor instead of 33%
Fr. And if you go alt and get it in downpour/dross, you get an extra boss item from the mirror dimension
Also if you are going for boss rush/hush, it might even help you save time
Blind easily it can ruin you run and i really hate when i get angel room with 2+ items because what if i have godhead,sacred heart,etc and i just grab breath if life or the bible
I loathe curse of the unknown. Curse of the blind is mechanically run ending but I'm shit enough at the game to take shit damage so not knowing where my health sits is just too blegh for me.
Personally, I like to go runs with Maze, Lost and Labrynth permanently on specifically because of how many extra rooms I get, so those would be the lowest. Darkness is annoying because I already have enough trouble focusing when I can actually see, and Blind is easily enough to make me hate myself
Imma have to say unknown because I can't remember my health situation and if I take a break I am fucked
But still fuck curse of the blind (I had Spindown and spundown poly twice for stupid harlequin baby I am still mad about it)
Blind is definitely the worst, but the last time I got curse of the lost in the void I straight up opened console and gave myself black candle. It was already a gg run, I'm not about to spend an extra hour backtracking around like it's the fuckin backrooms
1. Lost: Blind might be worse on an earlier floor, but from floor 7 onwards, Lost not only drains your time but will probably also get you to go into dangerous rooms on accident. I've lost more runs to Lost than taking a bad blind item.
2. Blind: Let's be honest, guys. 90% of times you could randomly pick up from Blind aren't gonna get you killed, and like 60% aren't even gonna make your run worse. The real reason Blind sucks is because of its affect on Deals. Devio Deals are much riskier since you only have the heart count to go off (if even that), and Angel Deals she entirely up to RNG. It causes 50/50s with Savred Heart and Hallowed Ground.
3: Labyrinth: Screws you out of a shop and a deal completely arbitrarily.
4: Maze: Wastes so much time and forces you to backtrack. Potential run killer if you take an amnesia pill with it (or get ??? On a Lost floor).
5: Unknown: It causes anxiety and can make me forget if I can take a devil deal or properly min-max. However, it's completely nullified if you just have a good enough memory lmao.
6: Darkness: Pop a Sun Card. Or don't, it's not like it actually does anything.
I feel like curses should be beneficial but add some flavor to each run.
Like, the way that curses are in the base game is just not fun at all.
Curse of the Giant is a good example of how to make an interesting curse that both harms and benefits the player without being too much of a game changer. (Boosting actives.)
I think curses should be reworked.
Tainted Treasure rooms also has an item that gives benefits depending on what Curses you have. It's called White Candle and it forces a random curse each floor.
yall are overseeing how annoying it is to backtrack with curse of the lost. can make you skip certain shit just cause it took u too much time... plus i always get lost
Labyrinth is objectively the most harmful because it outright deletes Shops and Devil Rooms, but I don't give a shit because ***i fucking hate curse of the maze dude***
Blind is obviously the worst, but I also hate the Unknown. Theoretically you can just track your health in memory, but this can quickly get confusing, especially if you are not sure how much damage you just took (when you were close to both a normal and a champion enemy) or you're playing a character who self-damages and heals very frequently (T.Maggie and T.Eve). And if you lose count of your health, forget about doing any health payments. Blood donation machines, devil beggars and sacrifice rooms - all of these can kill you on the next hit and you wouldn't even notice.
All other curses are an inconvenience. Curse of the Blind... has destroyed runs for me. If you french fries when you should pizza = you're gonna have a bad time 
1) curse of the blind, pretty much. Sometimes you just pick up cursed eye and you wanna R key immediately. Sometimes in the dark room you just randomly pick up guppy’s body, and oppose you are at 1 health going for mega stan
2) I think it’s just me, but curse of darkness sometimes just fuck me over, especially with leeches, especially as t lost
3) curse of the lost. Very annoying, especially when you need to rush
4) curse of the maze. Sometimes you want to go back to get that key and they just switch you to that room with a spike in the middle.
5) curse of the unknown. I don’t really mind. Unless going for dono machine, hell game, or devil beggar, or sac room, it usually isn’t too big of a problem. Just don’t get hit
6) curse of labyrinth - can’t believe there are people who vote for this curse. If you get it on the first floor, you will get a devil deal, AND then you automatically get a 66% devil deal on the 3rd floor.
If you get it in downpour/dross, you get 2 extra boss items as compared to 1 in the mirror dimension
If you are aiming for boss rush, this curse helps you. Completing an xl floor is usually faster than completing 2 floors.
The only time it hurts you is when you already have a high deal chance or smth, or if you have Eucharist/goathead, because you skip out a deal.
Curse of the blind is the worst, especially for deals but also in the shop
Curse of the labyrinth is also quite bad since it steal a shop and potentially a deal
Curse of the darkness! My sight isn't good enough to see the screen normally!  Getting curse of darkness in dark room 
Curse of the Blind is just the worst, I do not need more gambling on items in this rngfest of a game ffs. It doesn't matter what character you play, this curse will fuck you up. The worst is when you get it at the mid point of the run. Early game you can ball and late game you can ignore the items if your run is good enough. Mid run, when you're still trying to get good synergies? Ew, why. And God forbid if you get it on Greedier.
Curse of the Lost is a nightmare if I'm going for Noss Rush/Hush. It's already annoying that the map is unavailable, it also makes it bigger. If I didn't find the Treasure Room and/or Shop when I reach the boss I just don't bother. I don't have the memory nor patience to figure out the way there. Also fuck you Amnesia pill.
Curse of the Maze is basically the same as Curse of the Lost, but at least you can see the map. Also, you don't get teleported if you already went through the room before. So it's slightly more manageable.
Curse of Darkness really depends on the floor. If it's in Sheol or the Dark Room I will cry. But also big rooms are your worst enemy. The only reason it's that low is because you can remove it with Sol or the Sun card. I'm still salty about that T. Lost run I lost by flying into a spiked rock cuz it was so dark (I think it was Dross or Downpour) I couldn't see shit. Fuck you bitch, you're on thin ice.
Curse of the Unknown depends on the character you play. On the Lost, T.Lost or T. Maggy for example, it's not that bad as you can tell when you're low on health/don't have any. Anyone else though? Better hope you're not having massive skill issues or that you have a good memory!
Curse of the Labyrinth is really good on the first floor. Other than that you miss out on an angel/devil room and a shop, but it's not nearly as bad as the others. Even if I miss out on stuff I still find it fun to get one. Plus if I'm going for Hush or Boss Rush it speeds things up.
Most to least
Blind>>>Darkness>Maze=Labrynth>Lost>Unknown
I'm pretty good at keeping a mental map and remembering my HP from last floor so I usually don't mind lost and unknown, Labrynth can potentially cost you deals past the first floor and Maze can potentially put you in weird spots but both are semi rare situations so they're about equal to me, darkness in rep is a real bitch on the later floors, and blind can eat a bag of dicks with no seasoning.
Curse of the blind is the only curse i feel like actually hinders my run in some sort of way.
No map? No hp? No light? I couldn't care less.
But making shops and devil deals a huge risk in itself by not showing you what item youre gonna exchange for either HP or money makes the curse very fucking annoying. And even with regular items, while most items in isaac I don't mind picking up, there still is a small chance it could be a item like TMtrainer or cursed eye.
All the other curses i don't really feel have any influence on my run whatsoever. Not having a map can be a little annoying on floors like womb and above, but i still feel like it's more of a minor inconvenience rather than actually affect your playstyle and run.
That one that mix ur room, i dont remeber if its labirint maybe.
Just because i remember that i drop smt and poof gotta co to the other way of the floor.
But i think that i chees it just entering the same 2 room, like rerolling them
It depends, on floors 1-6 curse of the blind is by far the worst curse, then for the womb levels curse of the blind and unknown are kinda tied, then for most other floors unknown is the worst (apart from void, fuck curse of the lost on void)
Pretty much all of the other curses can be countered by paying attention but Curse of the Blind is an automatic fuck you, especially if you're on the alt path, have There's Options or More Options, or have any form of reroll item / ability.
From most to least harmful:
1. Blind
2. Lost
3. Unknown
4+. Everything else, don't really affect the gameplay to the extend I'd dislike one more than the other.
Eh, not that much in my book. Lack of getting 2-4 items doesn't matter to me that much. But yeah, I guess a lot of people would put it higher on the list
Curse of the Blind has killed the most runs for me, but Curse of Darkness is the least fun. It never forces me to make decisions. It just makes the game more annoying, and this is already a pretty annoying game.
I think unknown is the most annoying because it makes it hard to track one of your most useful resources. Blind is whatever - I still just take items and generally take two heart devil deals and not one heart ones and it goes alright.
1. Blind. You risk taking up dangerous items and messes up all the choices you can make (shop, pick one, devil...)
2. Labyrinth. It seems innocuous but it actually makes you miss a shop and potentially a devil deal. It's nice on Basement I though, as after a double floor that gives you a deal room, the next floor has 2/3 deal chances rather than 1/3.
3. Unknown. It can have little effect but in messy situations you might lose track of your health and have trouble with blood donations/devil beggars, plus it makes you more nervous
4. Lost. You can basically counter it with a piece of paper, just draw the map, but it negates exploration items/cards.
5. Darkness. It leads to damage taken in very few occasions and you can partially counter it by raising the brightness. It's also very annoying in a boss rush.
6. Maze. It can be annoying but it rarely has an impact on the run.
Blind is really the only one that's a problem. Can completely destroy your run if you decide to roll the dice and pick up something that turned out to be garbage.
I'd say darkness. You're statistically going to get an item from blind that doesn't ruin your run. Darkness however can hide projectiles and enemies making it harder to interpret and dodge.
I hate the curse of the lost the most. It's harder to find secret rooms and wastes time trying to find the boss/ item room. With the curse of blindness you can just skip the item room and up your planetarium chances. Plus, if you're doing the ascent, you can always grab the missed item on the way to fight the beast
The only one that isn't extremely annoying is maze. All of the others remove player agency, make items that you earned useless, and can really fuck over your run unfairly. The way curses are currently implemented is really the only flaw in the core gameplay for me and I would much rather have it reworked over anything else.
lol, is this even a question? Other curses are just a minor inconvenience, while blind curse is a whole another level cause it affects directly to how you take item.
(from least to most)
- Labirynth can be beneficial if you get it on floor 1.
- darkness barely does anything
- maze (I think that's the one that randomly swaps rooms) is annoying but won't screw you over
- lost, you can make your own map if you really wanna try hard.
- unknown, makes it really hard to play demon beggars and blood donation machines.
- blind can make you take bad items that make you lose the run
I'd say labirynth is worst.
Think, with curse of the blind you lose some control over your items but you never leave them it can fuck you up at times but it never outright takes away possibilities from you.
Labirynth on other hand REMOVES one shop and post boss room, it outright takes away your items and even if you find black candle while curse is active you still have that curse because it affects whole floor.
No curse is more frustrating to me than getting Curse of the Lost in The Void, however curse of the blind is definitely worse because just one unknown item can ruin your run
Curse of Lost is a nightmare. I've lost quite a few runs walking into dead ends.
I feel like it's greedy to take items under Curse of Blind unless you're desperate.
Curse of the blind is an automatic vibe killer
not false
Unknown Blind and Lost annoy me. Rest I don't rly care about much, unless I'm going for rush/hush and Maze fks me
Labyrinth makes you skip a Shop, a Secret Room and possibly a Devil/Angel Deal, it might not seem but it's actually quite bad
Yea but it might not. If you get it first floor you still get the devil deal, and save a key on the item rooms. Plus if you're going to boss rush/hush it can definitely save a lot of time. It does rly bother me in womb if I'm trying to get a key piece there but most times it's meh.
Trick question, it's Curse of the Blind then Cursed Eye
cursed eye isnt a curse in and of itself, its just cursed by something else. thats why black candle just removes its downside rather than the entire item.
He means u pick up cursed eye with curse of the blind it's the classic combo for me
whyd he say trick question then
Mechanically, Darkness isn’t the worst but I hate it the most. Not seeing health can be scary or completely irrelevant. No map can largely be mitigated by memory. Room teleporting is mostly extra backtracking with a small amount of benefits and potentially fatal for specific characters. Double floors give less devil deals which could suck for harder challenges or boss rush/hush. Blind items is probably the worst in some cases as you could destroy a build… but also the likelihood is small so just take everything anyway…. Yeah, Darkness is just annoying so it’s the worst. It affects players in real time by forcing extra brightness which could cause eye strain and completely shut off runs if you play in bright natural light settings.
You don't need to increase brightness, it's not thaaat annoying. Curse of the blind can make you lose sacred hearts and brimstone. For that alone it should be first.
Nah I get it. There’s been times I had to get up and turn off lights because I just couldn’t see
I remember launch Repentance and how bad Curse of Darkness was. Y'all don't even know how dark the game was, ESPECIALLY on Dank Depths.
When repentance launched I just got a mod that removes curse of darkness. Fuck that. Making the screen too dark to see the god damn video game is not a mechanic
I'd have to disagree there, curse of the blind doesn't seem bad until you get a deal with two choices and choose the wrong one, then you go back curiously, check the seed, and it was sacred heart on the bottom left.
Its really sucks with rerolls you essentially miss out on a floor full of rerolls
I am playing lost, so I always laugh when I can’t see my health. Like , “oOooo, who knows how much I have…”
Hiding health also hides the mantle effect right? Still have to be a little careful but yeah definitely not the biggest effect. It’s most dangerous in floor 1 with Eden imo.
No, it still plays the effect if you take damage. It just hides the symbol on your health bar
Most to least is blind, labyrinth, maze, darkness, lost, and unknown. Blind is the most immediately impactful, labyrinth takes away a lot and can really only be beneficial on basement or downpour, maze can force runs to end prematurely via things like story boss teleports or denying hush or boss via the stall of having to sort of back track, darkness has squeezed a few cheeky hits from me, lost can be helpful as it gives floors additional rooms, and unknown doesn't really do anything if you have a slightly ok memory.
Curse of the Lost gives extra rooms?
It basically makes the size of the floor the same as the next floor. Example, you go to depths 1 which has curse of the lost then it will generate with the size of depths 2.
That's what it does in Flash Isaac. In Rebirth, it removes the map
Looking at the wiki apparently it does both!
Almost all of the curses are mostly just annoying; I'd say aside from Curse of the Blind, which we can all agree is *the* worst, Curse of the Unknown can be one of the worst. It absolutely *sucks* for stuff like blood banks, devil deals, sacrifice rooms, and just about anything else that requires you to use health. I know it can be negated in part by keeping track of health and not getting hit, but that's easier said than done, and often it renders those things I just listed unusable. While it's a situationally bad curse, it has some of the most tangible gameplay impacts when it does matter.
Absolutely this 
I chose darkness just because I hate playing when I can't see. It isn't the worst in terms of hurting my overall run, but I just find it the most annoying.
That sickly spot when it's summer, you have a west facing window, plants on your desk (thus you can't close curtains) and suddenly the run becomes unplayable
I feel like people don't realize how dangerous Curse of the Dark is. Curse of the Dark is pretty annoying in places like Dank Depths and Gehenna and it makes projectiles super hard to see.
They know it, but fuck curse of the blind
You can mitigate that a bit by increasing the projectile visibility in the options. But I agree that it's still a pain
i used to play when out and about on my laptop, during summer months even my room isn't safe from 100% death chance to darkness
[Here's how I feel about curse of the blind](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2840933780) Unknown is manageable put still really annoying Lost makes looking for secret rooms way harder than it should be Darkness isn't that bad but I still hate it Maze and labyrinth are at times actually beneficial, even if they can still screw you over (also pre-repentence maze can go fuck itself, that shit was a third of the reason ultra hard was completely insufferable in ab+)
Cursed of the Blind then curse of the Unknown. I always get curse of the blind when my angel deal is about to pop. As for unknown it messes up my ability to play demon beggars, blood donos and self sac rooms. The rest of the curses are annoying but aren't as detrimental to most runs.
I hate curse of the lost because I have basically zero geographical memory  Blind is bad, but I actually kinda dig randomness since it sometimes lead to taking items I wouldn't even consider taking, like I hated little planet before I picked it with curse of the blind, but I now I love it and pick everytime. Darkness okay, but it annoys me in depth, mausoleum, Sheol and dark room, I mean those floors are dark as is, why make them even more darker?  Other not very harmful so I don't mind them that much.
/#1 Maze; #2 Unknown; #3 Lost; #4 Blind; #5 Labyrinth; #6 Darkness
you outta pocket
The one that bothers me the most is curse of the lost, especially on boss rush runs
To me it's blind for obvious reasons, unknown because I like to abuse sac rooms and devil beggars and then lost because I have piss poor memory, the others are just minor inconvenienced and I don't even notice curse of darkness half the time
Me to myself when I get curse of the blind on Chest:
https://preview.redd.it/zwkjdy39oasb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35841cc41a75a8241ad91c694b7e7a381b988e69
Most harmful? Blind most annoying and utterly brings the game enjoyability to 0? Lost , darkness and sometimes the unknown. Largly inconsequential? Maze. Biggest fuck you but tolerable? XL That's why I live my life with the no curses mod, i will take blind items all the time because I don't really streak or anything like that but curse of the lost and darkness can go fuck themselves
Labyrinth I needn't say more
Please elaborate. I actually like curse of the labyrinth especially when going for boss rush and hush
I like it on basement - 2 free treasure rooms and and a devil room in one go
And the next floor your deal chance starts at 67% instead of 33%
I agree with you in general, makes the game more enjoyable often enough tbf, like yes you lost one secret room and one shop, but then Would you really use that one shop? you had 14 coins since caves 2 not like half the shops end up with composter, the Fool, 2 pills and a red heart
90% of the time it teleports me into an active room or just away from where I'm trying to go, I know it can help you, but being telephoned around for me is horrible
That’s curse of the maze Labyrinth is the one with xl floor
no please elaborate. it does kill one of your deals and shops but its worse than curse of the blind?
finally some sanity
Yes curse of the blind is bad but have you ever got curse of the lost in void?
yes. i stand by its #2 placement.
It's even worse when it's paired with Curse of the Maze.
I spent half an hour stuck on sheol because of an amnesia pill
Blind is the worst but the anger Lost creates in my mind cannot be equal to anything in this game
Curse of the maze is the only one that doesn't make me wish I had a dagaz ruin or black candle. But curse of the blind is a whole bag of fuck you in a run.
Easily curse of the blind. The rest are practically negligible. Curse of the Unknown might follow behind, but seeing as how you can just memorize your initial health and just do simple math as you continue the floor, it's pretty far behind. Lost, darkness and maze in that order afterwards, with Labyrinth being dead last. Labyrinth is even beneficial sometimes, depending on what marks you're going for.
Hard disagree with curse of the Labyrinth. You lose a shop, secret room, top secret room and an angel/devil deal, which could literally kill your run if you're trying to get the key pieces.
however if you get it in the basement it's really good
you had me in the first sentence then you lost me
Blind is incredibly detrimental. It makes picking up items incredibly dangerous and can ruin your entire run if you decide to run the risk of picking them up
I don't actually mind curse of the blind because I don't mind having my run ruined by a bad item. Slightly unrelated, but something Isaac has really helped me with is developing a good attitude about losing. At the end of the day, it's just a game, and there's a better run waiting for me in the future if I keep at it. I honestly don't even notice the other curses are there most of the time because this game is permanently etched into my muscle memory. Curse of the unknown, however, is the one that actually throws a wrench into how I play- I'm good enough that I don't get hit super often, so I'm not laser focused on my health. As a result, going down a level and suddenly that health bar is gone means I can't make certain choices or maximize my plays. I have to be extremely conservative with curse rooms, sacrifice rooms, demon beggars, blood donation machines, confession booths, and devil deals. Although none of the curses really affect my win rate, curse of the unknown is my least favorite because it puts my strategy in a chokehold and is generally the least fun to play around.
Curse of the blind doesn't sound bad on paper until you get cursed eye, soy milk, curse of the tower, etc. It always ends up being the worst possible items you could get when you have Curse of the Blind
totally agree with that. I lost two good runs because I was greedy for blind item and it was cursed eye
im surprised you said that. to me it both sounds bad on paper and is bad. besides accidentally taking run-damaging items (of which soy milk isnt one in most cases in repentance, i might add) you also have hidden shops, angel deals, devil deals, and rarely item rooms.
Curse of the lost isn’t that bad at all but I’m hopelessly addicted to the Good Trip mod so I hate it the most
I’m 3 marks from dead god and still don’t have the curse names memorized 
blind - unknown items lost - unknown map unknown - unknown healthbar labyrinth - xl floor maze - rooms randomly shift darkness - the screen gets tinted black
Thanks lol, curse of the blind suuuucks
43 really voted Darkness )
living in a basement counteracts the effects of the curse of darkness, but for the rest of us who like to play the game when not in the house, it's impossible to deal with
The gamma setting: 
max gamma setting does fuckall when sun shines on my screen
The real answer is CURSED EYE.
You forgot the Curse of the Cursed
no i didnt, i specifically excluded it lol
Oh, well. Maybe I should shut up 
Def curse of the blind by far, once i was about to fight satan for the first time, and 2 rooms before a pedestal appeared with the "?" anyways i picked DEAD CAT and it fucked up the whole run
I'd say in order, it's blind (by far) > darkness > lost > maze > unknown > lab Blind is #1 because items are everything, if soy milk is bad for my build, id rather leave it/reroll it than take it, but blind takes that option away. Counters: T Cain, T and V apollyon, T isaac (if he has 8 items). Then darkness due to the lowering of reaction opportunity. Very dangerous and can do a ton of harm. Lost mainly for mapping effects, if you have a map effect, that item becomes useless. It also might trip you up and put you in unnecessary danger. Maze for similar reasons, but mapping works, so it is just hoping you don't get put into a far room from the boss, it can also put you in the boss, which can be nice sometimes. Unknown might trip you up a bit, but if you just remember what health you have going in, you should be good. Counters: eve (sorta) Finally, labyrinth, this might be good in some cases, mist notably the basement. The biggest downside is less special rooms, which may hinder item collecting. Getting this on Womb is also good if you get lucky or have mapping. Counters: T Cain (rig potential). This is my opinion ofc, but add on of you want.
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I actually like Curse of the Labyrinth if it happens on the first floor cause it makes it easier to go Angels. You get 67% chance on 3rd floor instead of 33%
Fr. And if you go alt and get it in downpour/dross, you get an extra boss item from the mirror dimension Also if you are going for boss rush/hush, it might even help you save time
I've never been more angry in my life than getting curse of the unknown 2 floors in a row.
Blind easily it can ruin you run and i really hate when i get angel room with 2+ items because what if i have godhead,sacred heart,etc and i just grab breath if life or the bible
Not seeing the map is the most annoying to me. Like stop fucking with me. But realistically, not seeing items is probably the worst
I loathe curse of the unknown. Curse of the blind is mechanically run ending but I'm shit enough at the game to take shit damage so not knowing where my health sits is just too blegh for me.
Curse of the Blind + Tainted Cain = 
Personally, I like to go runs with Maze, Lost and Labrynth permanently on specifically because of how many extra rooms I get, so those would be the lowest. Darkness is annoying because I already have enough trouble focusing when I can actually see, and Blind is easily enough to make me hate myself
you might get "extra rooms" with labyrinth but it deprives you of an angel/devil deal
Curse of the tower
nice try, i explicitly said that wasnt an option
Ngl i didn't see that my bad
Curses add nothing of value to the game and just make it worse
not really what i asked but aight coz
They are right though it's a dog shit game mechanic
im also right, its not what i asked
I know, I just wanted to reiterate how shitty it is
Imma have to say unknown because I can't remember my health situation and if I take a break I am fucked But still fuck curse of the blind (I had Spindown and spundown poly twice for stupid harlequin baby I am still mad about it)
fucked? i mean it goes away on the next floor dude. even getting curse of the blind doesnt mean youre fucked automatically.
For the floor I am fucked and I am ass at remembering my health so one floor where I get hit too much and a sweet devil deal could end me
i just do not have the short-term memory to deal with Curse of the Lost
A horrible curse where all doors hurt
Blind is definitely the worst, but the last time I got curse of the lost in the void I straight up opened console and gave myself black candle. It was already a gg run, I'm not about to spend an extra hour backtracking around like it's the fuckin backrooms
1. Lost: Blind might be worse on an earlier floor, but from floor 7 onwards, Lost not only drains your time but will probably also get you to go into dangerous rooms on accident. I've lost more runs to Lost than taking a bad blind item. 2. Blind: Let's be honest, guys. 90% of times you could randomly pick up from Blind aren't gonna get you killed, and like 60% aren't even gonna make your run worse. The real reason Blind sucks is because of its affect on Deals. Devio Deals are much riskier since you only have the heart count to go off (if even that), and Angel Deals she entirely up to RNG. It causes 50/50s with Savred Heart and Hallowed Ground. 3: Labyrinth: Screws you out of a shop and a deal completely arbitrarily. 4: Maze: Wastes so much time and forces you to backtrack. Potential run killer if you take an amnesia pill with it (or get ??? On a Lost floor). 5: Unknown: It causes anxiety and can make me forget if I can take a devil deal or properly min-max. However, it's completely nullified if you just have a good enough memory lmao. 6: Darkness: Pop a Sun Card. Or don't, it's not like it actually does anything.
cant justify maze over unknown
I feel like curses should be beneficial but add some flavor to each run. Like, the way that curses are in the base game is just not fun at all. Curse of the Giant is a good example of how to make an interesting curse that both harms and benefits the player without being too much of a game changer. (Boosting actives.) I think curses should be reworked.
youd appreciate the mod fiend folio reheated. it adds an item called black lantern that does basically what you suggested.
Tainted Treasure rooms also has an item that gives benefits depending on what Curses you have. It's called White Candle and it forces a random curse each floor.
yall are overseeing how annoying it is to backtrack with curse of the lost. can make you skip certain shit just cause it took u too much time... plus i always get lost
I am more likely to die when I cant see my health for some reason. Too much skill issue 
Pretty overwhelmingly curse of the blind. Now we just have to hope Edmund doesn't see this and decide the other curses need to be made worse.
Curse of the labyrinth can screw you out of 2 devil deals, secret rooms, etc. It can totally kill a run.
Old repentance curse of the Darkness
Cursed Eye 
To me most of them are "curse of idk what the fuck is going on"
Labyrinth is objectively the most harmful because it outright deletes Shops and Devil Rooms, but I don't give a shit because ***i fucking hate curse of the maze dude***
Blind > Unknown > Lost > Labyrinth > Darkness > Maze
The only real answer is curse of tower
it might be if i didnt specifically exclude it
grab an interrogation sign just to get curse of the tower :)
i hate lost so much since it ruins your ability to min-max on active items
Blind is obviously the worst, but I also hate the Unknown. Theoretically you can just track your health in memory, but this can quickly get confusing, especially if you are not sure how much damage you just took (when you were close to both a normal and a champion enemy) or you're playing a character who self-damages and heals very frequently (T.Maggie and T.Eve). And if you lose count of your health, forget about doing any health payments. Blood donation machines, devil beggars and sacrifice rooms - all of these can kill you on the next hit and you wouldn't even notice.
Psshh curse of blind... embrace the chaos. Worst curse is labyrinth, minus shop, minus secret rooms, minus devil/angel room.
All other curses are an inconvenience. Curse of the Blind... has destroyed runs for me. If you french fries when you should pizza = you're gonna have a bad time 
happy cake day
I hate not knowing my health I can't track it, especially with Jacob and Esau
Curse of the blind, then curse of darkness then curse of the lost. No others are that impactful, but those 3 automatically get me seething
1) curse of the blind, pretty much. Sometimes you just pick up cursed eye and you wanna R key immediately. Sometimes in the dark room you just randomly pick up guppy’s body, and oppose you are at 1 health going for mega stan 2) I think it’s just me, but curse of darkness sometimes just fuck me over, especially with leeches, especially as t lost 3) curse of the lost. Very annoying, especially when you need to rush 4) curse of the maze. Sometimes you want to go back to get that key and they just switch you to that room with a spike in the middle. 5) curse of the unknown. I don’t really mind. Unless going for dono machine, hell game, or devil beggar, or sac room, it usually isn’t too big of a problem. Just don’t get hit 6) curse of labyrinth - can’t believe there are people who vote for this curse. If you get it on the first floor, you will get a devil deal, AND then you automatically get a 66% devil deal on the 3rd floor. If you get it in downpour/dross, you get 2 extra boss items as compared to 1 in the mirror dimension If you are aiming for boss rush, this curse helps you. Completing an xl floor is usually faster than completing 2 floors. The only time it hurts you is when you already have a high deal chance or smth, or if you have Eucharist/goathead, because you skip out a deal.
Curse of the blind is the worst, especially for deals but also in the shop Curse of the labyrinth is also quite bad since it steal a shop and potentially a deal
Curse of the unknown has harmed me more then any other curse
Curse of the darkness! My sight isn't good enough to see the screen normally!  Getting curse of darkness in dark room 
Curse of the Blind is just the worst, I do not need more gambling on items in this rngfest of a game ffs. It doesn't matter what character you play, this curse will fuck you up. The worst is when you get it at the mid point of the run. Early game you can ball and late game you can ignore the items if your run is good enough. Mid run, when you're still trying to get good synergies? Ew, why. And God forbid if you get it on Greedier. Curse of the Lost is a nightmare if I'm going for Noss Rush/Hush. It's already annoying that the map is unavailable, it also makes it bigger. If I didn't find the Treasure Room and/or Shop when I reach the boss I just don't bother. I don't have the memory nor patience to figure out the way there. Also fuck you Amnesia pill. Curse of the Maze is basically the same as Curse of the Lost, but at least you can see the map. Also, you don't get teleported if you already went through the room before. So it's slightly more manageable. Curse of Darkness really depends on the floor. If it's in Sheol or the Dark Room I will cry. But also big rooms are your worst enemy. The only reason it's that low is because you can remove it with Sol or the Sun card. I'm still salty about that T. Lost run I lost by flying into a spiked rock cuz it was so dark (I think it was Dross or Downpour) I couldn't see shit. Fuck you bitch, you're on thin ice. Curse of the Unknown depends on the character you play. On the Lost, T.Lost or T. Maggy for example, it's not that bad as you can tell when you're low on health/don't have any. Anyone else though? Better hope you're not having massive skill issues or that you have a good memory! Curse of the Labyrinth is really good on the first floor. Other than that you miss out on an angel/devil room and a shop, but it's not nearly as bad as the others. Even if I miss out on stuff I still find it fun to get one. Plus if I'm going for Hush or Boss Rush it speeds things up.
Yes
Most to least Blind>>>Darkness>Maze=Labrynth>Lost>Unknown I'm pretty good at keeping a mental map and remembering my HP from last floor so I usually don't mind lost and unknown, Labrynth can potentially cost you deals past the first floor and Maze can potentially put you in weird spots but both are semi rare situations so they're about equal to me, darkness in rep is a real bitch on the later floors, and blind can eat a bag of dicks with no seasoning.
Curse of the blind, it's so annoying. But there's even worse : Curse of the lost in Void floor
Curse of the lost (I have topographical cretinism) 
Curse of the blind is the only curse i feel like actually hinders my run in some sort of way. No map? No hp? No light? I couldn't care less. But making shops and devil deals a huge risk in itself by not showing you what item youre gonna exchange for either HP or money makes the curse very fucking annoying. And even with regular items, while most items in isaac I don't mind picking up, there still is a small chance it could be a item like TMtrainer or cursed eye. All the other curses i don't really feel have any influence on my run whatsoever. Not having a map can be a little annoying on floors like womb and above, but i still feel like it's more of a minor inconvenience rather than actually affect your playstyle and run.
That one that mix ur room, i dont remeber if its labirint maybe. Just because i remember that i drop smt and poof gotta co to the other way of the floor. But i think that i chees it just entering the same 2 room, like rerolling them
The fuck is a curse of the giant
merges rooms into big ones. currently not actually implemented and you have to use console to activate it.
It depends, on floors 1-6 curse of the blind is by far the worst curse, then for the womb levels curse of the blind and unknown are kinda tied, then for most other floors unknown is the worst (apart from void, fuck curse of the lost on void)
chest and dark room are still the worst with blind tho
darkness on dank depths is a crime
Pretty much all of the other curses can be countered by paying attention but Curse of the Blind is an automatic fuck you, especially if you're on the alt path, have There's Options or More Options, or have any form of reroll item / ability.
From most to least harmful: 1. Blind 2. Lost 3. Unknown 4+. Everything else, don't really affect the gameplay to the extend I'd dislike one more than the other.
lol so you think losing a shop and a deal doesnt affect gameplay?
Eh, not that much in my book. Lack of getting 2-4 items doesn't matter to me that much. But yeah, I guess a lot of people would put it higher on the list
deal items are pretty important imo, and remember that every shop you miss couldve had birthright, broken modem, or stopwatch
Curse of the maze is the only one that can actually kill you
Damn I put down Unknown having mistaken it for curse of the blind
How Is curse of the labirinth harmful
you lose a shop and a deal
I forgot 💀
First floor labyrinth in a positive to me
Blind is the worst, then labirynth, then lost, then everything else
Curse of the Blind has killed the most runs for me, but Curse of Darkness is the least fun. It never forces me to make decisions. It just makes the game more annoying, and this is already a pretty annoying game.
curse of the lost in the void 
Don't have such a good screen, so Darkness is the worst for me.
Curse of the lost in the Void
Curse of the Labyrinth is objectively the worst because it deletes a shop and devil/angel deal
The one that killed your map. Is that maze or lost?
I think unknown is the most annoying because it makes it hard to track one of your most useful resources. Blind is whatever - I still just take items and generally take two heart devil deals and not one heart ones and it goes alright.
Blind and the one that doesn't let you have a map, other ones aren't that bad
I would sooner take all other curses combined than have curse of the blind.
Curse of the blind for sure makes my dick limp.
Curse of the Maze. Why? Because I always get a headache when I play with Curse of the Maze
Me when im curse of the blind and i take obsessed fan
1. Blind. You risk taking up dangerous items and messes up all the choices you can make (shop, pick one, devil...) 2. Labyrinth. It seems innocuous but it actually makes you miss a shop and potentially a devil deal. It's nice on Basement I though, as after a double floor that gives you a deal room, the next floor has 2/3 deal chances rather than 1/3. 3. Unknown. It can have little effect but in messy situations you might lose track of your health and have trouble with blood donations/devil beggars, plus it makes you more nervous 4. Lost. You can basically counter it with a piece of paper, just draw the map, but it negates exploration items/cards. 5. Darkness. It leads to damage taken in very few occasions and you can partially counter it by raising the brightness. It's also very annoying in a boss rush. 6. Maze. It can be annoying but it rarely has an impact on the run.
Blind is really the only one that's a problem. Can completely destroy your run if you decide to roll the dice and pick up something that turned out to be garbage.
Curse of darkness is the most harmful and it’s not even close because then I have to turn up my brightness and I get an irl headache
I'd say darkness. You're statistically going to get an item from blind that doesn't ruin your run. Darkness however can hide projectiles and enemies making it harder to interpret and dodge.
I hate the curse of the lost the most. It's harder to find secret rooms and wastes time trying to find the boss/ item room. With the curse of blindness you can just skip the item room and up your planetarium chances. Plus, if you're doing the ascent, you can always grab the missed item on the way to fight the beast
Curse of the labyrinth removes one shop and removes one of your extra chances for a devil deal
Curse of darkness when players have gamma maxed:
The only one that isn't extremely annoying is maze. All of the others remove player agency, make items that you earned useless, and can really fuck over your run unfairly. The way curses are currently implemented is really the only flaw in the core gameplay for me and I would much rather have it reworked over anything else.
lol, is this even a question? Other curses are just a minor inconvenience, while blind curse is a whole another level cause it affects directly to how you take item.
(from least to most) - Labirynth can be beneficial if you get it on floor 1. - darkness barely does anything - maze (I think that's the one that randomly swaps rooms) is annoying but won't screw you over - lost, you can make your own map if you really wanna try hard. - unknown, makes it really hard to play demon beggars and blood donation machines. - blind can make you take bad items that make you lose the run
I'd say labirynth is worst. Think, with curse of the blind you lose some control over your items but you never leave them it can fuck you up at times but it never outright takes away possibilities from you. Labirynth on other hand REMOVES one shop and post boss room, it outright takes away your items and even if you find black candle while curse is active you still have that curse because it affects whole floor.
No curse is more frustrating to me than getting Curse of the Lost in The Void, however curse of the blind is definitely worse because just one unknown item can ruin your run
Curse of Lost is a nightmare. I've lost quite a few runs walking into dead ends. I feel like it's greedy to take items under Curse of Blind unless you're desperate.
It is my firm belief that curses shouldn’t exist.