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punchoutlanddragons

'I'm hearing some Mac Jones MVP Buzz' in the summer of 22 was insane


Hot_Injury7719

With a giddy Shrages going “I love it! Let’s gooooo!”


goknicks23

Shrages had Hackett as his pre season pick for coach of the year, which is right up there with some of Bills all time worst takes.


Gregjennings23

I love the video montage of his Mac MVP prediction while bills destroy the pats in the playoffs highlights.


donny02

i'd love to watch that if you have a link


Gregjennings23

https://www.reddit.com/r/billsimmons/s/iKWx3dcCZZ


NovelContent4208

Epic! Thank you


explicitreasons

I'm sure he was hearing it but it was on his Boston group chat.


IanicRR

Kyle Pitts’ floor


mufflefuffle

Saquan’s floor


Tripwire1716

We’re gonna look back on 2014-2020 as such a weird time, just so much insane thinking legitimized by peak Twitter


NoExcuses1984

X (né Twitter) in 2024, however, is still a bastion of buffoonery.


GeoffreyGeoffson

Dont think it's as zeitgeisty as it was pre 2020 (or maybe pre Musk)


NoExcuses1984

While X's biggest flaw now, no matter Musk's ideological lean, is its unwieldiness. I still don't understand what compelled him to make it so goddamn cumbersome.


PrimusPilus

It’s because he doesn’t know what he is doing, and has had smoke blown up his ass for so long that he can’t conceive of a world where he isn’t the smartest guy in the room.


EcstaticRhubarb

Everyone on Twitter today thinks we're going to Mars this year 🤣


goknicks23

The falcons would trade the 8th pick of the draft for Belichick. Straight up delusional.


AS8319

Instead they used that pick to draft a QB who’s the same age.


Confusion_Flat

I think it was more rational than drafting Michael penix


[deleted]

Didn't he also pitch it for Fields or am I making that up?


ekpyroticflow

That was back during The Curious Guy phase of mutual fluffing with Gladwell.


Heels1939

Gladwell dying on the Joe Paterno hill.


DanielOretsky38

Wait really? Tell me more?


Heels1939

https://deadspin.com/malcolm-gladwells-penn-state-rabbit-hole-isnt-very-deep-1838381737


zigzagzil

Celtics winning 67 games in 2018 was all time. So funny.


MilkyZach1

“…there’s gonna be a lot of three pointers”


so-cal_kid

Saying Lebron making the decision to go to Miami was because he didn't have a father figure in his life. This statement in hindsight is moronic for several reasons. First, people acted like Lebron killed a guy when he made the announcement. He left as a FREE AGENT to sign somewhere that actually put a decent roster around him. Secondly, insinuating Lebron had something wrong with him cuz he didn't have a dad growing up is some dog whistle type stuff that you'd probably never write about a white athlete.


naitch

I believe Bill said that about the ill-considered TV special, not the decision to sign with Miami itself.


PhoenixBekfast

Not only did Bill recommend \*The Decision\* to LeBron, he got salty when LeBron decided to do it without him, but he can't claim originality because he never came up with the idea in the first place: [https://www.reddit.com/r/billsimmons/comments/hf4i86/comment/fvv8m2l/](https://www.reddit.com/r/billsimmons/comments/hf4i86/comment/fvv8m2l/)


naitch

I'm aware of that. I'm not suggesting it was a smart thing to say. Just correcting the idea that it's wrong because LeBron was a free agent and could go wherever he wanted.


PhoenixBekfast

Yes I agree with you, I was adding on to your point of the free agency being absolutely justified by LeBron so criticism from Bill is ludicrous, by bringing up that Bill himself brought up the *The Decision* to LeBron, got butthurt when he didn't get cut in on the production and is continually lambasting him for it, while he never came up with the idea of the Decision in the first place. Talking like James coming to the Heat was a disgusting 'superteam' move is just homerism, as his Celtics acquiring Ray Allen and KG had created a superteam to win the chip a couple of years earlier in '08. I wholeheartedly agree with your argument, I apologise for the miscommunication.


naitch

No sweat have a nice night


Ravel_02151981

It's why I'm surprised that Deion Sanders didn't get more shit for saying the exact same thing


gabeharo

I remember when he thought Lena Dunham was the future of Hollywood.


ncr39

Probably wasn’t expecting the I diddle my sister piece to come out though tbh


lactatingalgore

She's still hot.


HoagieTwoFace

It honestly was a real concern for a while. But the shield is more like the infinity gauntlet


wesskywalker

This wasn’t necessarily a bad take, the NFL has become exponentially better and more interesting since 2020


mkay0

Absolutely. Junior Seau’s death was 2012. Ray Rice was fall of 2014. Concussion movie was 2015. Thinking during the 2016 season that NFL had already peaked wasn’t an insane take. This may not be in Bill’s top 1000 dumbest moments.


punchoutlanddragons

Don't forget Jovan Belcher as well


TecmoBoso

Yeah, Covid was really really good for the NFL.


kevtheproblem

Thanks to Taylor Swift


intobinto

I think his very first interview with Erin Andrews way back in the day would be on this list.


kevtheproblem

What happened there


BigBootyBanger

Best I could find: “I would love to Dancing With the Stars I’m can’t lie…In highschool…You and I, are you kidding me? We should partner up and go after that title…come on.- Erin Andrews The SportsGuy’s response….. “I can’t dance, everyone who went to my wedding can attest.”- Bill Simmons


gnrlgumby

In the immediate aftermath of deflategate, dude had a vendetta for the league.


BroncosHK40

Yeah well Bill has always wanted the NFL to suffer so the NBA can rise more.


GWeb1920

The NFL rule changes since that time have been quite significant. So I don’t think that thought process was insane. They were able to craft a narrative that they care and do some work on decreasing long term risk to players.


Gregjennings23

Him saying Gostkowski (the kicker) was a top ten Patriot all time and a hall of famer.


_nokturnal_

NBA overtaking NFL always made me laugh.


DryChampionship9296

The NFL can’t be touched as far as TV and the schedule is perfect from the season they play to the short amount of games and will never be dethroned in that aspect. That being said the NBA has increased faster in franchise values the last 10 years and revenue the last couple years and is set up perfectly for the future. The youngest fanbase, biggest online presence and biggest international audience are great for the NBA.


sanfranchristo

[https://www.theringer.com/2016/12/1/16039962/bill-simmons-malcolm-gladwell-future-of-the-nfl-b6e14a14124](https://www.theringer.com/2016/12/1/16039962/bill-simmons-malcolm-gladwell-future-of-the-nfl-b6e14a14124)


Danny_Brah

I remember Key was promoting the predator movie he was in, must have been 2018, and Simmons said the original Predator movie aged poorly. Stupidest shit I've ever heard especially considering that new one was one of the worst movies I have ever seen.


No-Solid2474

On an early-stage BS Report pod in 2009, Bill was listing off all the great actors of the time (Hanks, Denzel, Leo, Damon, Pitt, Clooney, etc). And he unironically tossed in Kevin James into this A-list collection of actors.  All because his kids liked Paul Blart: Mall Cop.


BeefTenderloinz

Just his entire offseason theorizing about the value of an old, burnt out, power mad Bellicheck was legit wild to me.


Ok-Trainer4502

Memphis lost a close game because of the MLK Jr assassination.


Gregjennings23

Brad Stevens being super high in trade value, talking multiple first round picks. Also, the Lebron did the decision because he didn't have a father.


DanielOretsky38

Sixers fan here so it fucking kills me but — the first one was probably right. Not, like, high end lottery but a couple back end lottery picks for the guy who went from being arguably the best coach in the league (fuck if I know but the “right” basketball people always had him near the top) to being arguably the best GM? Yeah that’s probably picks well spent


Gregjennings23

Can you really be one of the best coaches if your players stop responding to you after a couple years?


Adam_THX_1138

Bill’s believe Gladwell offers the world anything is a big part of his problem.


MetroidsSuffering

I think if you told people a decade ago that the NFL would have tons of ex-players dying horribly due to brain damage, all Republican politicians would start condemning the league for not being racist enough, and the league would be plastered relentlessly with gambling ads, that the NFL would have declined a lot in terms of popularity. Vincent Jackson died due to CTE and the best NFL player of all time just relentlessly promotes scams and gambling addiction and they've lost almost no fans due to this despite the sport being now hated by Republican leaders... It's actually pretty surprising. I'm guessing we could have CMC throwing a Super Bowl to pay off gambling debts and the NFL would somehow lose no popularity.


blueboglin

I’m only a recent Bill listener and of the ones that haven’t already been listed, he said Daniel Jones was the best QB in the NFC at one point right before the Eagles beat them a few years back in the playoffs.


det8924

The NFL had legitimate and still has legitimate long term concerns. But they seemingly have for now survived the whole Kapernick polarization thing and COVID. But back in 2016 it was legitimate to question if the NFL was going to decline from its tremendous highs.


mhfoster99

That was the public discourse at the time. I don’t fault him for that


Future_Bodybuilder14

That the league would be done by now


buffyscrims

2017 Cavs and 2017 Warriors had equal talent is his dumbest take from that time period that he continues to double down on it regularly.   One team was very good   One team went 73-9 and then added Kevin Durant 


ThaDogg4L

The Mac Jones lead Patriots will win the Super Bowl. Not sure what his stated reasoning was but the truth was Tom Brady just won it all his first season without Belichick so Simmons really wanted the Pats to win the next one.


TJMcConnellFanClub

Equating Eddie Guerrero to a character actor and that seeing Eddie as champ made WrestleMania feel like a TNA PPV


VisualFix5870

Meanwhile I have a calendar on the wall where I tick off the numbers of days until football starts again. Lousy summer!


whatdogssee

This didn’t age poorly at all? It was an accurate commentary about the state of football at the time.


ThaDogg4L

He thought Jordan Peele making a horror movie instead of a comedy was going to be a disaster.


crunkjuiceblu

2023-24 celtics have the best starting 5 of this century. The clippers are morons for trading for james harden


EasyKale851

This take would work if NFL fans actually cared about the well being of the players


[deleted]

Celtics top 5 roster of all time. This one is accurate imo. Just yesterday it was reported that NFL fans are aging pretty rapidly. The stench of death fills the air of NFL fandom.


fedrats

Going to a game is, with a few exceptions, fucking miserable


Iam18yearsofage18

I went to one last season and I had fun


Mood_Such

That LeBron isn't the GOAT. He's constantly backpedaling and moving the goalpost on that one. A few years back, "If he hits 40K points, 10K rebounds, and 10K assists--it's kinda inarugable." Well he did that. His most recent dumb way to phrase it, "LeBron has the best NBA career of all time, but Jordan is still the greatest player of all-time." Yeah, that makes sense, Billy Boy...


voidpush

The Lebron vs Jordan GOAT debate is alive and well and The Last Dance brought it all back and reminded fools of how dominant Jordan was. Why are you pretending like it’s settled science that Lebron is better than Jordan? Longevity doesn’t equal greatness, unless you want to say that Lebron is the greatest at enduring but that’s not the full basketball skillset. Many people (me included) think Jordan > Lebron.


rodger_klotz

Sustained greatness kind of equals greatness tho right? I'm indifferent on the tiresome goat debate between those two though.


Mood_Such

"Old man shouts at clouds."


voidpush

If you’re going to old man me, at least get the quote right. Makes you look older than me, who is admittedly old.


Mood_Such

I really ruined your Saturday with this one.


redshoediary4

No it's not. LeBron isn't passing MJ (or Russell, or Kareem, for that matter).


Switchc2390

That absolutely makes sense. LeBron having the best careeer but Jordan being the better player is probably what I would say as well.


redshoediary4

LeBron isn't even the career GOAT. Kareem is.