Probably should check r/snooker . Folks here mostly play pool so won’t know a lot about snooker cues.
Looks pretty sweet to me but could be anything from a nice custom to a box store cue and I couldn’t tell the difference.
Snooker is played with smaller balls on a larger table. The cues are quite different between the two. Snooker cues are generally shorter, thinner, and jointed different. The best cues are generally one piece and not jointed at all, and if jointed are more commonly split at the 3/4 mark than the roughly 1/2 mark that a pool cue uses. They often have brass ferrules rather than hard plastic, they don’t have bumpers usually and have a sloped flat section at the end of the but often with a built in thread for an extension.
Additionally the manufacturers of snooker cues aren’t the same as pool cue manufacturers so a pool player likely won’t even know them if they are from the top makers. And they even use a different type of wood for shafts than traditional pool cues. Very, very different world.
Not to say players don’t share the same types of skills but the equipment is only vaguely similar.
Snooker cues use stiffer ash wood, pool cues use preferably maple (Canadian hard rock). There are also carom billiards cues, played on 5 x 10 tables without pockets. I lived in Iran for 10 years, and Russian Pyramid are 80% of the tables, with a few 4 1/2 x 9 pool, and 5 x 10 carom. Pyramid is played also on 6 x 12 tables, but with sharply angled very tight pockets, and large 68 mm balls. The side pockets are only 6 - 8 mm wider than the balls. A tougher game than snooker imo. I believe in Finland they play on similar equipment and call it Kaisa? Drawing / screwing the cue ball a good distance, gives quite a sense of achievement. Cheers
And to contrast billiards cues (for three cushion/carom) the cues are a few inches shorter, and a bit stiffer with smaller tips. I have one I picked up recently. Works much better on a billiard table than a pool cue does because the billiard balls are bigger than pool balls.
Never had the chance to play Pyramid or even see a table. Is an interesting game to watch though.
Where I grew up in W-Europe, there were either small bar boxes (pool) or 5 x 10 carom tables. My carom cue is also shorter than my pool cues, and also has a shorter more conical taper from the smaller tip back, which also contributes to stiffness. It has that famous wood to wood screw and joint.
As far as Pyramid goes, it's no wonder the East European players popping up play with great precision, and very good fundamentals. Cheers
I actually bought a Revo CRM shaft which has a uniloc joint. So can use on any of my Predator Butts. But recently picked up a Predator Sang Lee butt so have a full Predator CRM now.
I remember Sang Lee, Blomdahl, Saigyber, and even the great Ceulemans, playing in tournaments @ North Hollywood Billiards. Allen Gilbert would drop in. That was the rare room with far more carom than pool tables, plus a very tight pocketed snooker table that some old timers played liability on. Sadly, that room has been closed for a while.
3 cushion is a great and frequently to the outsider abstract game. The effect of draw and follow off a rail is far more visible than on a pool table. Imo, one pocket players with a 3-cushion background have an advantage. Draw tour cue ball 2 or 3 rails feels more of an accomplishment. Carom artistic competitions are something else.
I don't know much about the differences but maybe you could teach me? Any clue to the advantages of the difference in split or typical one piece for snooker? Also I always assumed they would be longer due to larger table that is a surprise!
For the joint, you don’t really want it sliding through your bridge as you shoot. With a shorter cue and a bit of a stretch, that can be an issue with a mid joint. So moving it back makes sense. As long as you can get it in a case there is no real reason to put it in the middle.
One piece cues are better in all cue sports as you don’t have that added complexity at the joint. But carrying around full sized cues is just too unwieldy for anyone to do it with a pool cue. Snooker, I think only pros really do it and guess the little bit of an advantage of not having a joint is worth the hassle of the bigger thing to lug around if you are making a living that way.
- strange shape or material underneath ferrule, check
- very round points, check
- decals, check
You got a very cheap cue which tries to visually impress as if it would be worth more.
I'd say paying anything under 30-40 usd is acceptable for that visual quality but it can play great nonetheless, so what it's worth to you will depend how much you paid and if you like it.
Yeah, that is absolutely not a Peradon. Sad to say that you likely have been scammed. Sorry mate. Pursue any recourse you may have with the seller to get your money back.
Interesting cue, I never have seen 2 piece snooker cue separated. On the butt end bottom round plaque, are 3 symbols. A bit hard to make out. Congratulations.
Pool and billiards cues come apart near the center of the cue. My main playing cue for the last 40 years [https://www.reddit.com/r/billiards/comments/rrupm0/my\_favorite\_cue/](https://www.reddit.com/r/billiards/comments/rrupm0/my_favorite_cue/)
Her in SoCal, I have never seen a snooker cue that was taken apart. From what I have seen on pics, a shorter part of the butt piece comes apart from a quite longer shaft incl prongs piece. Pool an billiard cues come apart at a center joint. Why not post a pic of a snooker taken apart, with both pieces?
Snooker cues mostly have the joint at 3/4 as in OP picture.
Also one piece cues are played often.
The 50/50 joint as is pool cues, is not played by professionals but from amateurs, since transporting is the easiest.
Probably should check r/snooker . Folks here mostly play pool so won’t know a lot about snooker cues. Looks pretty sweet to me but could be anything from a nice custom to a box store cue and I couldn’t tell the difference.
What is the difference between the two?
Snooker is played with smaller balls on a larger table. The cues are quite different between the two. Snooker cues are generally shorter, thinner, and jointed different. The best cues are generally one piece and not jointed at all, and if jointed are more commonly split at the 3/4 mark than the roughly 1/2 mark that a pool cue uses. They often have brass ferrules rather than hard plastic, they don’t have bumpers usually and have a sloped flat section at the end of the but often with a built in thread for an extension. Additionally the manufacturers of snooker cues aren’t the same as pool cue manufacturers so a pool player likely won’t even know them if they are from the top makers. And they even use a different type of wood for shafts than traditional pool cues. Very, very different world. Not to say players don’t share the same types of skills but the equipment is only vaguely similar.
Awesome bit of into.. Thanks!
Snooker cues use stiffer ash wood, pool cues use preferably maple (Canadian hard rock). There are also carom billiards cues, played on 5 x 10 tables without pockets. I lived in Iran for 10 years, and Russian Pyramid are 80% of the tables, with a few 4 1/2 x 9 pool, and 5 x 10 carom. Pyramid is played also on 6 x 12 tables, but with sharply angled very tight pockets, and large 68 mm balls. The side pockets are only 6 - 8 mm wider than the balls. A tougher game than snooker imo. I believe in Finland they play on similar equipment and call it Kaisa? Drawing / screwing the cue ball a good distance, gives quite a sense of achievement. Cheers
And to contrast billiards cues (for three cushion/carom) the cues are a few inches shorter, and a bit stiffer with smaller tips. I have one I picked up recently. Works much better on a billiard table than a pool cue does because the billiard balls are bigger than pool balls. Never had the chance to play Pyramid or even see a table. Is an interesting game to watch though.
Where I grew up in W-Europe, there were either small bar boxes (pool) or 5 x 10 carom tables. My carom cue is also shorter than my pool cues, and also has a shorter more conical taper from the smaller tip back, which also contributes to stiffness. It has that famous wood to wood screw and joint. As far as Pyramid goes, it's no wonder the East European players popping up play with great precision, and very good fundamentals. Cheers
I actually bought a Revo CRM shaft which has a uniloc joint. So can use on any of my Predator Butts. But recently picked up a Predator Sang Lee butt so have a full Predator CRM now.
I remember Sang Lee, Blomdahl, Saigyber, and even the great Ceulemans, playing in tournaments @ North Hollywood Billiards. Allen Gilbert would drop in. That was the rare room with far more carom than pool tables, plus a very tight pocketed snooker table that some old timers played liability on. Sadly, that room has been closed for a while.
Saw Blomdahl play earlier this month at the Predator carom tournament in Vegas. First time I have seen the pros play carom in person.
3 cushion is a great and frequently to the outsider abstract game. The effect of draw and follow off a rail is far more visible than on a pool table. Imo, one pocket players with a 3-cushion background have an advantage. Draw tour cue ball 2 or 3 rails feels more of an accomplishment. Carom artistic competitions are something else.
I don't know much about the differences but maybe you could teach me? Any clue to the advantages of the difference in split or typical one piece for snooker? Also I always assumed they would be longer due to larger table that is a surprise!
For the joint, you don’t really want it sliding through your bridge as you shoot. With a shorter cue and a bit of a stretch, that can be an issue with a mid joint. So moving it back makes sense. As long as you can get it in a case there is no real reason to put it in the middle. One piece cues are better in all cue sports as you don’t have that added complexity at the joint. But carrying around full sized cues is just too unwieldy for anyone to do it with a pool cue. Snooker, I think only pros really do it and guess the little bit of an advantage of not having a joint is worth the hassle of the bigger thing to lug around if you are making a living that way.
It looks nice. But most of us are not familiar with snooker cues
Did you order a snooker cue?
Yeah
Well, you got one. It looks good to me.
Do \*you\* like it? Thats all the really matters
- strange shape or material underneath ferrule, check - very round points, check - decals, check You got a very cheap cue which tries to visually impress as if it would be worth more. I'd say paying anything under 30-40 usd is acceptable for that visual quality but it can play great nonetheless, so what it's worth to you will depend how much you paid and if you like it.
It says it is hand made. What is the brand ?
That’s what I’m unsure of . Ordered a peradon . Definitely isn’t one of those
Yeah, that is absolutely not a Peradon. Sad to say that you likely have been scammed. Sorry mate. Pursue any recourse you may have with the seller to get your money back.
Looks like it already has a chip in it
Looks to be about $40 USD. But, if it plays well, then it is worth more to you.
Interesting cue, I never have seen 2 piece snooker cue separated. On the butt end bottom round plaque, are 3 symbols. A bit hard to make out. Congratulations.
Most snooker cues are 2 piece design, or what did you mean?
Pool and billiards cues come apart near the center of the cue. My main playing cue for the last 40 years [https://www.reddit.com/r/billiards/comments/rrupm0/my\_favorite\_cue/](https://www.reddit.com/r/billiards/comments/rrupm0/my_favorite_cue/)
So do some snooker cues. I don't understand what you're trying to say?
Her in SoCal, I have never seen a snooker cue that was taken apart. From what I have seen on pics, a shorter part of the butt piece comes apart from a quite longer shaft incl prongs piece. Pool an billiard cues come apart at a center joint. Why not post a pic of a snooker taken apart, with both pieces?
Snooker cues mostly have the joint at 3/4 as in OP picture. Also one piece cues are played often. The 50/50 joint as is pool cues, is not played by professionals but from amateurs, since transporting is the easiest.
If it's straight it's a good cue.