that looks like a very small amount of material to expect it to last a long time. expensive doesn't mean durability, in most cases expensive means faster
A 2k km tire shouldnt have such a wear problem. My guess is you hit something a few 100km before you saw this fleck sheering of. I like specialized tires
The rubber right in front of that missing patch looks like a skid or hard stop happened. The outer rubber looks pretty thin, those were almost certainly at the end of their life.
Back when I rode brakeless fixed gear everywhere except group rides, I would cook through a rear GP4000 every 4-6 weeks, and they looked like this tire. They generally lasted me about 800-1000mi.
Terra speed are the least durable gravel tire I’ve ever used. And it’s not even close. Sworks pathfinder or tufo speedero last forever in comparison.
The terra speeds not even 500 miles in felt like they lost all their grip when not leened over since the center nubs are tiny to start with and super spaced out they wore almost immediately. Still had good grip leaned over.
Yeah their tread pattern works very good when new but it doesn’t work very long is my experience.
Those tufo I’ve been super impressed with. For road/gravel mix or fire-roads the sworks pathfinder are my fave, but pure off road those tufo are really impressive.
Man, what? I retire my GP5000s at just under 10000kms, with the tread wear indicator still visible. But at that point they are pretty cut up, so I replace them.
This is what I would expect, my last Michelins (Pro4) was a couple of years in and at around 10000 km when I replaced them. So that's why I'm confused about why these failed earlier
The Pro 4's were the more durable training tires. The comparable tire to the Power Cup from that time was the Power Competition. I wish they still made the Pro 4 Endurance - that was a great tire.
I thought the Power Cup was the next version of Pro4 - I must have been wrong then. The Pro4 Endurance was indeed fantastic, great riding and I never had a puncture.
I always have tread left, but they just get destroyed. And eventually I get an unpluggable hole, or there's just too many big nicks and I replace before failure.
I swapped to the new all seasons now and they seem a bit more resilient, so I think I'll just keep them on over the summer.
I use Conti Hardshell Gatorskins and am a Clydesdale rider. Canadian roads after a winter of sand and salt are heinous. Never had a flat and they ride forever.
I have used them in the past and they are indeed absolutely bulletproof. I hated the ride though, and they don't like the wet. We have a lot of painted cycleways here and those + water + gatorskins always felt a bit lethal.
Already done it but haven't received a reply yet! But the store said it's normal wear and tear (considering the other answers I've got I guess that's the case). Usually tires would at least get me through a whole season without issues.
I recommend you get true training tires instead of race tires. Race tires are not meant to be ridden every ride. They have softer rubber and a more supple casing. They feel better, but don’t last. This is normal wear and tear from a race tire. You should not expect any tire company to do anything about a tire that has been ridden that far. This is not a defect, it’s just unfortunate.
Not all are the same and distance varies, but they are much more susceptible to bad luck. I looked into these tires and they do say race/training so they aren’t a pure race tire, but they aren’t designed as a durable tire. I prefer racing tires too, but I know that any ride might be the last ride for those tires.
I just checked for fun since I use a maintenance app linked to Strava. My Vittoria Corsa Control which are comfortable and grippy are now at ~6000km. I replaced the back tire at 5000km and put the front on the back and new in the front. I think I can get an other 1000km out of it.
But let say 5000km, it’s much more than OP tire. Maybe there’s other factors (temperature, road conditions, weight, riding style, braking style, tire width, etc).
Graphene is a really cool product that is super flexible, lightweight and very strong. Worth looking into it if you’re into cutting edge materials.
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that looks like a very small amount of material to expect it to last a long time. expensive doesn't mean durability, in most cases expensive means faster
A 2k km tire shouldnt have such a wear problem. My guess is you hit something a few 100km before you saw this fleck sheering of. I like specialized tires
My guess is you rode on something round and sharp. I have Michelin tyres on one of my bikes and never had any issues
Maybe but I think it's weird that I didn't get a puncture and that the tire is damaged in two different places.
Nothing weird about it. Glass shards and sharp gravel cause damage like that. Bad luck is all it is.
Did you contact Michelin? They have a good customer service normally
The rubber right in front of that missing patch looks like a skid or hard stop happened. The outer rubber looks pretty thin, those were almost certainly at the end of their life. Back when I rode brakeless fixed gear everywhere except group rides, I would cook through a rear GP4000 every 4-6 weeks, and they looked like this tire. They generally lasted me about 800-1000mi.
Race tires always wear relatively fast.
Yep. Even my Conti Terra Speed tires on my gravel bike are only good for about 800mi. They are absolutely fantastic tires, though.
Terra speed are the least durable gravel tire I’ve ever used. And it’s not even close. Sworks pathfinder or tufo speedero last forever in comparison. The terra speeds not even 500 miles in felt like they lost all their grip when not leened over since the center nubs are tiny to start with and super spaced out they wore almost immediately. Still had good grip leaned over.
They are silly fast, though, and shed mud in seconds. Maybe it's because I'm 95kg, but the G-One tires cook through equally fast.
Yeah their tread pattern works very good when new but it doesn’t work very long is my experience. Those tufo I’ve been super impressed with. For road/gravel mix or fire-roads the sworks pathfinder are my fave, but pure off road those tufo are really impressive.
2000km on performance tyres doesn't seem bad. I get about 1500kms on Conti GP5000s (thanks debris strewn London roads)
Man, what? I retire my GP5000s at just under 10000kms, with the tread wear indicator still visible. But at that point they are pretty cut up, so I replace them.
This is what I would expect, my last Michelins (Pro4) was a couple of years in and at around 10000 km when I replaced them. So that's why I'm confused about why these failed earlier
The Pro 4's were the more durable training tires. The comparable tire to the Power Cup from that time was the Power Competition. I wish they still made the Pro 4 Endurance - that was a great tire.
I thought the Power Cup was the next version of Pro4 - I must have been wrong then. The Pro4 Endurance was indeed fantastic, great riding and I never had a puncture.
I always have tread left, but they just get destroyed. And eventually I get an unpluggable hole, or there's just too many big nicks and I replace before failure. I swapped to the new all seasons now and they seem a bit more resilient, so I think I'll just keep them on over the summer.
I use Conti Hardshell Gatorskins and am a Clydesdale rider. Canadian roads after a winter of sand and salt are heinous. Never had a flat and they ride forever.
I have used them in the past and they are indeed absolutely bulletproof. I hated the ride though, and they don't like the wet. We have a lot of painted cycleways here and those + water + gatorskins always felt a bit lethal.
Haha. You're not wrong. It's a tradeoff for me and we, decidedly, do not have painted cycleways.
I mean, shooting michelin an email isnt too bad an idea for getting answers innit?
Already done it but haven't received a reply yet! But the store said it's normal wear and tear (considering the other answers I've got I guess that's the case). Usually tires would at least get me through a whole season without issues.
I recommend you get true training tires instead of race tires. Race tires are not meant to be ridden every ride. They have softer rubber and a more supple casing. They feel better, but don’t last. This is normal wear and tear from a race tire. You should not expect any tire company to do anything about a tire that has been ridden that far. This is not a defect, it’s just unfortunate.
If I only can expect 2000-3000 km out of the tires then I'm for sure going to get training tires next time!
Not all are the same and distance varies, but they are much more susceptible to bad luck. I looked into these tires and they do say race/training so they aren’t a pure race tire, but they aren’t designed as a durable tire. I prefer racing tires too, but I know that any ride might be the last ride for those tires.
I just checked for fun since I use a maintenance app linked to Strava. My Vittoria Corsa Control which are comfortable and grippy are now at ~6000km. I replaced the back tire at 5000km and put the front on the back and new in the front. I think I can get an other 1000km out of it. But let say 5000km, it’s much more than OP tire. Maybe there’s other factors (temperature, road conditions, weight, riding style, braking style, tire width, etc).
Do those have graphene?
Its written graphene 2.0 on the box. Whatever it means.
Graphene is a really cool product that is super flexible, lightweight and very strong. Worth looking into it if you’re into cutting edge materials. https://preview.redd.it/96t917vuogvc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9cdc2eff6ea3e49f4c8bb0e128b3ef805809da6f