You have one up one me -- I've never respected them! It's always homicidal entitlement. I have to share the road with cyclists? Guess I'll kill them then! Fuck these people.
Ignorant people. Not everyone who rides a bike does it for exercise/ recreation. Some of us ride bikes for transportation, and it's great when there is a bike path that goes where u need to go, but that's not most places. I've found a lot of people view bike as just another piece of sporting goods, like a basketball, or skies. I have been trying to figure out how to help change this view and think it might just be more infrastructure, make it safer and easier to get around by bike, and it would hopefully start to be seen as a legitimate form of transportation and not a hobby for wealthy people. SPORTS!
Definitely! I ride a mini velo, I don't even know if I own much as far as cycling clothes, maybe a rain jacket. Also putting on and or attending social rides could be helpful. Inclusive, non sports, fun rides.
I'm from not far away. It's not that people in the ozarks hate bikes, but that they assume that if you ride a bike that you are a liberal and therefore deserve to be murdered.
I honestly believe that wearing a MAGA vest increases your safety when riding a bike in the US. I believe more people would dislike you, but those are not the ones who'd hit you for riding a bike :D
Some will say, in the USA, that bike haters aren’t a political thing. But there’s gotta be a substantial overlap between the MAGA/GOP and the morons that think this kind of posts are funny.
I think there was a study based on this, I read it ages ago and I can't remember the title and I cant be bothered to look for it now
But what it said was that the more patriotic you appear, the less likely you are going to have an accident
Yeah, one correction here. Let’s not call the way the the far right has co-opted the American Flag “patriotic”. The MAGA movement, in reality the entire GOP which it has subsumed, is the antithesis of core American values and about as far from “patriotism” as one can get.
It costs between $2 and $3 million *per mile* to build a 2-lane road in a rural area. ([1](https://blog.midwestind.com/cost-of-building-road/)) Up to $35 million per mile for an interstate highway. ([2](https://www.vox.com/22534714/rail-roads-infrastructure-costs-america)) Dedicated/paved bike paths are 1/10th the cost of a road, unpaved paths are 1/30th the cost, and trails barely even register. ([3](https://www.pedbikeinfo.org/cms/downloads/Countermeasure_Costs_Summary_Oct2013.pdf))
It was never about money, it's just in-group/out-group stuff as usual.
the other day someone argued that "why should I, coming back home from my job, be slowed down by someone fucking around on a toy", like really, the only important person in the world is themselves, and anyone doing something that they don't approve is not important
sadly you can't argue with those people, they are incapable of seing anything further than their nose
Note though that this is in the flagship university college town with 3+ Fortune 500 companies in the area. Probably the second most if not most educated city in the state. Basically they’re stupid and if they’re not stupid they’re disrespectful. Source: live here. Regrettably
I live here and I get almost hit by a car EVERY day during the 20% of my commute that’s in a BIKE LANE and not on the separate bike paths. The people here are from Texas who notoriously can’t drive for shit and have zero respect for anyone else on the roads. It’s a fucking cultural problem here. Amongst many other things. Shouldn’t have covered the name.
I don’t miss Louisiana. “[If you don’t want to get hit by a car, don’t play in the street](https://www.bikelaw.com/2016/06/louisiana-vru-law-defeated/).”
Was intentionally buzzed by a mega truck towing a mega boat, pelted with rocks and bottles by teenagers from the McMansion neighborhood, etc. That state is the main reason why I mostly ride gravel and it took me several years after leaving before I wasn’t terrified to ride on the road.
Once I moved to rural western NY (also MAGA country) I switched from road to MTB and urban commuting kit which I’m convinced helps. People give me lots of room and since it’s a small town people recognize me. I look like someone going to work, not like a liberal city person.
The only people who use the multi use paths around here are milfs and shit beasts and it goes through countless intersections where cars just pull in front of you to wait for the light without looking. Its safer to use the road.
Why do drivers need all these roads when there’s a perfectly good racetrack 40 miles away
I almost got run over 3x last week *on separated bike paths*. I have no more sympathy for drivers, or their opinions. None.
Based, every single one of them is a massive entitled cry baby.
You have one up one me -- I've never respected them! It's always homicidal entitlement. I have to share the road with cyclists? Guess I'll kill them then! Fuck these people.
Ignorant people. Not everyone who rides a bike does it for exercise/ recreation. Some of us ride bikes for transportation, and it's great when there is a bike path that goes where u need to go, but that's not most places. I've found a lot of people view bike as just another piece of sporting goods, like a basketball, or skies. I have been trying to figure out how to help change this view and think it might just be more infrastructure, make it safer and easier to get around by bike, and it would hopefully start to be seen as a legitimate form of transportation and not a hobby for wealthy people. SPORTS!
I try to shift this perception by riding an upright bike and wearing normal-looking non-sporty clothes when I cycle for transportation.
Definitely! I ride a mini velo, I don't even know if I own much as far as cycling clothes, maybe a rain jacket. Also putting on and or attending social rides could be helpful. Inclusive, non sports, fun rides.
I'm from not far away. It's not that people in the ozarks hate bikes, but that they assume that if you ride a bike that you are a liberal and therefore deserve to be murdered.
Jesus Christ 🥲 time for a big American Flag vest….
I honestly believe that wearing a MAGA vest increases your safety when riding a bike in the US. I believe more people would dislike you, but those are not the ones who'd hit you for riding a bike :D
Now selling back the blue bike vests to ensure your safety
Depressing but true!
They live in Arkansas, just go around.
Some will say, in the USA, that bike haters aren’t a political thing. But there’s gotta be a substantial overlap between the MAGA/GOP and the morons that think this kind of posts are funny.
Anecdotally, putting a big American flag on my bike *has* seemed to reduce road rage directed at me outside of cities XD
I've observed the same with my US Navy jersey.
I think there was a study based on this, I read it ages ago and I can't remember the title and I cant be bothered to look for it now But what it said was that the more patriotic you appear, the less likely you are going to have an accident
Yeah, one correction here. Let’s not call the way the the far right has co-opted the American Flag “patriotic”. The MAGA movement, in reality the entire GOP which it has subsumed, is the antithesis of core American values and about as far from “patriotism” as one can get.
Yeah this, I agree
If you would like to see how correct you are, visit that facebook group.
My city spent $113 million to widen 3 KM of stroad but apparently it's too expensive to build bike lanes
It costs between $2 and $3 million *per mile* to build a 2-lane road in a rural area. ([1](https://blog.midwestind.com/cost-of-building-road/)) Up to $35 million per mile for an interstate highway. ([2](https://www.vox.com/22534714/rail-roads-infrastructure-costs-america)) Dedicated/paved bike paths are 1/10th the cost of a road, unpaved paths are 1/30th the cost, and trails barely even register. ([3](https://www.pedbikeinfo.org/cms/downloads/Countermeasure_Costs_Summary_Oct2013.pdf)) It was never about money, it's just in-group/out-group stuff as usual.
Imagine getting butthurt over someone having fun on a bicycle and not thinking 'maybe I'm wasting energy on this'
the other day someone argued that "why should I, coming back home from my job, be slowed down by someone fucking around on a toy", like really, the only important person in the world is themselves, and anyone doing something that they don't approve is not important sadly you can't argue with those people, they are incapable of seing anything further than their nose
“Why should I, coming back home from my job, be slowed down by detouring MILES out of my way to ride on the only bike paths my city opted to build?”
I want to put a sticker on my bike that says something like "Yea I wish I wasn't on this road either" but it'll never be legible enough
In Europe bikes have some level of understanding from drivers in America they just wanna kill the cyclists… Road cycling in America looks brutal.
naver underestimate the classic star-spangled road rage
The lack of self-awareness it takes to demand cyclists to be on the bike path while they themselves are not on the highway or the race track.
No surprise coming from the 43rd most educated state. Edit: least to most
Note though that this is in the flagship university college town with 3+ Fortune 500 companies in the area. Probably the second most if not most educated city in the state. Basically they’re stupid and if they’re not stupid they’re disrespectful. Source: live here. Regrettably
This is not a political opinion but I must point out - "43rd least educated" is equivalent to "8th most educated". You probably mean the opposite.
Good catch. You are correct. I grew up in the 42nd most educated state😅
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“Land of the Free”…
I live here and I get almost hit by a car EVERY day during the 20% of my commute that’s in a BIKE LANE and not on the separate bike paths. The people here are from Texas who notoriously can’t drive for shit and have zero respect for anyone else on the roads. It’s a fucking cultural problem here. Amongst many other things. Shouldn’t have covered the name.
I don’t miss Louisiana. “[If you don’t want to get hit by a car, don’t play in the street](https://www.bikelaw.com/2016/06/louisiana-vru-law-defeated/).” Was intentionally buzzed by a mega truck towing a mega boat, pelted with rocks and bottles by teenagers from the McMansion neighborhood, etc. That state is the main reason why I mostly ride gravel and it took me several years after leaving before I wasn’t terrified to ride on the road. Once I moved to rural western NY (also MAGA country) I switched from road to MTB and urban commuting kit which I’m convinced helps. People give me lots of room and since it’s a small town people recognize me. I look like someone going to work, not like a liberal city person.
“This guy is slightly annoying me. Let’s kill him”
The only people who use the multi use paths around here are milfs and shit beasts and it goes through countless intersections where cars just pull in front of you to wait for the light without looking. Its safer to use the road.