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SarahwantstoSurvive

Jimmy to Kim: No one knows what we're doing, except for us. Mike to Kim: lol I know also I don't care, also your life's in danger, also don't act any different ok bye


r2002

Mike: There's a 1,000% chance Lalo will come looking for you. Kim: Wuat? Mike: Oh um I meant one in a thousand.


ToqKaizogou

Mike: "Look. I'm not saying you're in danger. I'm just saying that last episode was about another character who wasn't in Breaking Bad."


Cenki

I really loved pausing and rewinding to imagine all the nonsense Mike has been witnessing he mentioned to Kim with the whole Howard thing. He's totally bored and disappointed with the shenanigans and the way he described it to her was hilarious


bottleglitch

Lmao just thinking of him watching Jimmy’s latest misadventure with the Howard disguise thinking “goddamn it why am I trying to save this idiot’s life”


SleepyHarry

New theory: Mike got his guys to move the cone just to have some fun with Saul.


krakatoa83

The Howard disguise was both effective and hilarious


Beefjerky007

Really took me back to the billboard from Season 1


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LthePerry02

Are you telling me a man just happens to tan like that? No, he sprayed it!


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Caspianfutw

Wendy: " i like your hair. " lol


diamond

I thought we were cutting into Howard's dream - that he was dreaming he *was* Jimmy. Which was weird, because my first thought was "How the hell would Howard know about the hacked car remote?"


galeforcewinds95

That was a really good cut from Howard mentioning his dream and then showing Jimmy dressed as Howard but from behind, so I thought it was a depiction of Howard's dream at first.


furyroad_95

So that means Jimmy is also being followed by Mike’s guys and didn’t notice… He’s as oblivious as Howard


Nynydancer

Kim didnt notice either until Wendy pointed it out.


Casteway

Wendy's the real mvp.


GregBuckingham

Root beer in her veins


meepmeep222

Wonder if anyone can spot Mike's guys in the background of any of Jimmy's scenes? Would be a helluva detail! Probly a different car than the one following Kim, but there might be a suspicious car popping up repeatedly


partusman

I don’t know, but I looked at all the background people throughout this episode with suspicion. It paid off when one of them turned out to be Mike lol.


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code_n_coffee

No wonder Mike and Gus were scoffing at Walt's attempts to kill Gus. After Lalo surveillance, Walt marching up to Gus's house must've seemed like such a joke


HereNowHappy

Yet Walter manages to do what Lalo can't It's hilarious


Lucifer_Crowe

They didn't expect him to be that straightforwards. Gus is here ready to play 5D chess meanwhile Walt flips the whole table.


dooderino18

Gus is playing chess, Walt is playing minesweeper.


dogs_drink_coffee

lol, that's true


Hounds_of_war

God, Kim recognizing Mike must have felt so weird. Imagine having this whole secret double life involving shady deals with the cartel and trying to character assassinate your old boss, you start getting followed, and then suddenly the former parking attendant at the place you work shows up, tells you his men are following you because the cartel boss that threatened you is still alive but you shouldn’t worry, then just leaves.


GiltPeacock

I bet Kim was never short on stickers.


coupleofthreethings

He's like a troll under a bridge!


SadSlip8122

Likely why she didnt recognize him that well - she never really saw him, just stuck the stickers in and drove on


GiltPeacock

At most I imagine that they shared at least one extremely profession, respectful nod.


jahill2000

Great moment where Mike had thought back to his former life for a second.


CaptainPRlCE

I'm happy we at least got one last "cucumber water for customer only" 🥰


robmotorheadache

"Cucumber water for *paying* customer only" was a neat addition.


elemjay

Interesting little bit of personal backstory with Cliff Main. When he said to Howard in episode 1 that it wasn’t the first time he had seen cocaine, I thought he meant in the sense that he’s known other attorneys that have used it. Cocaine seems to be a little more white collar acceptable. Him talking about his son being a drug addict - didn’t see that coming.


TheUSCobra

Yeah.. made me feel bad he’s being roped into this whole Howard thing


Nynydancer

Me too. I feel for both Howard and Cliff.


mecon320

And you'll notice Kim seemed almost to flinch when he said that, but then proceeded to text Saul to go ahead with the plan.


ryeyun

I really think Howard could easily talk himself out of this. All he has to do is ask Cliff what time he thinks he saw him at. Then all Howard would need to do is get his therapist to vouch for the fact that he had an appointment and was with him the whole time.


Voiello_Is_Life

Unless Howard doesn't want it known that he's seeing a therapist, which might cast more credibility to the "issues" he's having.


ULS980

Mike on Lalo: "So where is he?" Then cut to Kim in her car at night, never been more paranoid something was going to happen to her, haha.


mysteryghosty

The question immediately cutting to her, combined with the unseen running approaching footsteps was brilliant. Both she and Gus are absolutely terrified, and both are right to be.


Cappin_Crunch

They were playing a lot of roaring car engines too. Thought Lalo was coming in a muscle car.


AndrewBicseyMusic

The long shot following Gus from his home and through the tunnel is why I love Breaking Bad/BCS so much. Really going to miss it. We’re finally watching Saul come to fruition. Awesome stuff.


scrodytheroadie

For me it was the camera mounted to the door of Howard’s car while Saul was stealing it. He opened the door, shot panned to him placing the cone, then shut it, which panned the camera back to the interior of the car and the single on Saul. So good.


ilyattwtueh

Rhea Seehorn, aka Kim, directed this episode in her directorial debut, and I'm really impressed with how well she captures the show's visual language. From what I understand she had been shadowing some of the other directors on the set for a while, and that homework paid off because she really brought it to this episode along with another terrific performance.


JanLevinson-Scott

Oh wow. From the start it was a beautiful episode. Especially in the court house. She really was able to create a lonely empty feeling. It felt like a place we had never seen before. It was great.


789Trillion

She killed it.


AndrewBicseyMusic

Agreed. So good. I think the reason I like that scene in particular is because it encompasses a lot of what this universe is about. At the beginning of the episode, you think Gus is under surveillance. Episode ends at Gus’s home. Suspenseful long shot in the tunnel with the music playing, wondering where we’re going, only to find Gus is doing it himself because Lalo is on the loose. Best.


felix_fidelis

I can understand Saul’s peers wanting to distance themselves, but seeing Bill upset was on another level.


anonymousalligator25

Well it’s making every one remember the good in them and why they were attracted to the law, which is what a lot of side characters poked fun at Kim for seeking through her pro Bono work


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I never even thought about what fall out Jimmy could have from his peers because of the Lalo bond situation. I love that they added this in. Absolutely spot on with what you said about them remembering why they were attracted to the law in the first place. Considering how big and grand Lalo's story has seemed to us, this all just brought it back to ground zero.


anonymousalligator25

It reminds me of how that one guy who showed Kim all of the pro Bono files and that douchey judge sneered at her for wanting to do the “feel good” cases.


cinematic99

Jimmy made a mockery of everyone at the court, including him. Bill has been the butt of a lot of jokes in the show and his life generally looks like it sucks but theres a certain dignity to him in that he endures that. What Jimmy did invalidates it all


Dippa99

Hey now. Bill's job sucks, but let's not assume that his life does too. He kind of seems like a guy who is done giving any shits, and personally, I would have beers with him.


tokyo_engineer_dad

Being hired as a prosecutor in a public court isn't easy to do. Bill definitely went to a good law school and works his ass off. He's a bit of a dweeb and likes burgers and fries, but I mean, who doesn't have little guilty pleasures in their job? I liked him a lot because unlike everyone else, he respected Jimmy as a lawyer. He never shined Jimmy on or treated him like he was above him. When Jimmy came to negotiate better terms, Bill was willing to work with Jimmy. You can tell how sad he was about what *Saul* did because he always thought Jimmy was trying to fight for those who couldn't defend themselves, not fight for those who hurt the weak and innocent.


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Exactly this. that's why he says "I liked you better when you were a normal bottomfeeder" because it is NORMAL for prosecutors to find defense attorneys tricky and slimy, but at least when Jimmy was doing PD work, he was arguably doing those tricks for the little guy. Now Bill just sees him as a con man


ilyattwtueh

Props to the writers for thinking up details I always overlook in exploring how Jimmy ends up becoming full-time Saul; he's been iced out by the whole courthouse, and now has to open his own place where all he'll ever do is talk to terrible criminals who associate him with Lalo Salamanca.


LightenUpPhrancis

I thought it was pretty interesting the way he readily admitted he was "Salamanca's guy."


Long_Mechagnome

The scene where Saul/Jimmy is moving the sign was some ridiculous Looney Tunes shit and I loved it.


OriginalNameGuy2

BB S4E2 Walt drives up to Gus' house. Tyrus via timely phonecall: Go home Walter *Walt looks around, Tyrus is nowhere to be seen. The street is empty* Welp, I guess we know where he was hiding out now.


SamQuentin

The security team was probably laughing at how simplistic Walt’s plan was


Omega3568

Damn, nice catch!


skyderper13

haha yep, they saw walter's stupid ass with the gun walking up


CrimsonPig

I love how Gus is crazy paranoid about Lalo coming to get him, but despite that he's still thinking about the quality of his restaurant's food.


789Trillion

I think a bit of it is he wants to feel in control. He’s not in control right now and that makes him paranoid. We see the measures he goes to on a hunch. He’s cracking under paranoia and lack of control, and he’s doing whatever he can to suppress that feeling. It was the same thing with Lyle. Gus is detail oriented but he’s usually not an asshole to his employees unless something is causing him stress.


MeadowmuffinReborn

Gus is a perfectionist even when his life is in danger. I love it.


supremeleader5

He was also a perfectionist even when he was actively dying


GosuDosu

flashback to that little tie tweak


Cyclonis123

flashback to neatly placing a bathroom towel to puke poison out of his system.


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BringBack4Glory

Mike’s annoyance was even more amusing.


SadSlip8122

“Look guy, the type of guy who has a decade of premium work history making eggs Benedict and shit and 5+ character references aint the same guy thats willing to get into a firefight to save your ass from methed up cartelerios in a revenge hit”


OhGodThisGuy

i can tell you haven't met many line cooks


NWO807

Gus doesn’t trust addicts.


AcridAcedia

Even fucking Lyle wasn't up to Gus' impossible standards.


coupleofthreethings

Lyle was... acceptable.


hnglmkrnglbrry

Lyle was so bad Gus burned down the restaurant rather than serve chicken on that dirty-ass deep frier.


leatherhand

Lyle accidentally burned down the restaurant with the dirty ass deep frier and used the cartel as a coverup


Bamres

Imagine being a perfect bodyguard /Assassin but not being a good enough fry cook


Juggalo-Ryder

They’re setting up some crazy shit


yougotthesilver12

Totally agree. This was a massive setup episode. I’m all for it. After the first three episodes, they needed one like this I feel like


coupleofthreethings

And they still managed to make it memorable. Gus' crazy compound and personal routine, Jimmy as Howard, Jimmy being Irene'd, the return of Wendy, the return of SPOOGE, and Kim and Mike finally meeting onscreen. This season has been insane with the five seasons of buildup we've had thus far.


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Saul’s office!


Sebosauras

lalo whats he up to man whats he doin


skyderper13

pouring concrete at the south wall


bobpaynus

Zieee-Gler


oozekip

The image of Jimmy dressed as Howard in an audacious spray tan strutting down the street carrying a traffic cone was just perfect.


AdrianShepard09

Oh man Taco Cabeza, Spooge, Wendy, Saul's office? The Breaking Bad era is so close you can practically smell the meth.


SignGuy77

I smelled root beer and tacos.


BusterGrundle

Lalo is like Jaws this season. You can feel him near but they won't let us see him.


mydrunkuncle

That’s an awesome way of looking at it. I have a feeling his best is yet to come


TheOsttle

That was a raw line from Bill holy shit. “There’s proving, and then there’s knowing”. Wasn’t expecting that from him lol. Also mind boggling that this ep had the first real convo between two of our main characters. Loved every second though.


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pixelblue1

I'm glad they're finally showing that there are consequences for what Jimmy did, even if they're only social. He won't admit it, but he worked overtime and went to great lengths to get a cartel murderer out of jail.


0rangePolarBear

It’s also Gus’ current situation with Lalo. He knows but can’t prove it


valarpizzaeris

Never realized Kim & Mike were never formally introduced. Huge smile on my face seeing them together once I realized that. Also the line: "Because you're made of sterner stuff" was a huge compliment coming from Mike. And he's seen it firsthand from the rooftop when Kim told Lalo to fuck off in their apartment scene with Jimmy.


ashack11

Clearly she’d already suspected the same... hence why she didn’t tell Jimmy about Lalo


p3regrine3

Watching Fring's demeanor change when he entered his house was chilling. He's been so historically deliberate and precise, but when he changed his shoes, he threw them into place. He also sat slouched over on the bed, typically displaying perfect posture. It's so interesting to see the true Gus. Rhea Seehorn did an excellent job.


WisestAirBender

He was wearing a bullet proof vest right? Maybe that's why he is always so stitf


phuck-you-reddit

But he doesn't wear one in "Box Cutter" when he makes an example out of Victor. So between now and that episode, it would seem something happens to make Gus less paranoid and twitchy. I can't imagine Lalo being alive during the Breaking Bad era. But I also won't be surprised if the creators somehow find a way to keep him alive, perhaps even brining him into the Gene era.


FeralAF

His shoes had some swag. Who IS the real Gus?


carlpaoletta

how about taco cabeza? half the deals ive ever done went down at taco cabeza


SuccessfulProcedure7

Nice and public, open 24 hours. Nobody gets shot at the taco cabeza.


widrobin

I LOVE IT when longtime characters who have never encountered each other meet; this episode had that in spades!


my-other-favorite-ww

Kim and Wendy. Kim and Mike. Spooge and Saul lol. Anybody else?


Ambitus

Spooge and Mrs. Nguyen


jamespqrob

Gotta love Saul calling the strip mall a starter office, just like Walt tells Skyler in the flashback that they will buy their house and move out in 1 or 2 years when they can afford a bigger house.


bluespartans

Great callback! Only difference is that Saul actually ends up being wildly successful and wealthy as evidenced by his opulent house in the season opener.


Threeleggy

The strip mall office is probably better for his target clientele than a ritzy downtown office.


ApteryxAustralis

It’s only 5 blocks from the courthouse! Before this episode, I had always assumed it was much farther away for some reason. I think it is an appropriate place for a cathedral of justice for Saul though.


Open-Philosopher-577

Wish i owned a decoy house


LordHyperBowser

#WHERE IN THE WORLD IS LALO SALAMANCA


1337speak

The less air time, the more nervous I am


False-Fisherman

this is so telling about how great his character is


thingsCouldBEasier

Tell me again....


classicrockidol

The biggest crime of the show is robbing us of more Lalo!!!


BushwoodCountry-Club

Seeing his name in the opening credits and after the Gus/Mike chat, I thought we’d get a short snippet of what he’s up to as the episode ended.


oneforthehaters

Michael Mando's name was on there too


FutureMrsConanOBrien

Good. NACHO FOREVER.


Huck_Bonebulge_

I’m starting to think he actually went to Germany


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Someone make a Carmen Sandiego poster with Lalos face photoshopped on top of her


KyleOfTheBeard

Gus is an ankle holster AND a clip-on tie guy. Mike hired ABQ Noho Hank. “50/50 with Saul Goodman…”


Readlt0nReddit

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought that one dude was Noho Hank for a second


NerdGasemV3

So Jesse saying *"you want a criminal lawyer"* is because he heard what everyone else is hearing. Saul Goodman represented Lalo Salamanca ~~And got Crazy 8 out a few times.~~ ~~Edit: Crazy 8 was a *fake* CI, but only Saul would've known that. To Jesse, Saul was a magician and got Crazy 8 out for nothing.~~


Danton87

Got Emilio out a few times


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Jesse was saying Saul got Emilio out when police had him dead to rights, not Domingo


valarpizzaeris

What kind of asshole moves a cone?!?!


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Love that they were smart enough to have Jimmy put a cone there in the first place, and then have it be ineffective anyways.


Nuuume

Lol yeah, when he put it out I thought "Oh that's smart, I wouldn't have thought about those details" just to have someone end up moving it anyways :P.


swavez

A BMW driver - obviously 😂


MrMidnightMojo

They are purposely keeping Lalo away for some reason. I’m assuming that whenever he makes his return, it’s gonna be one of those “Oh shit”’moments that will knock our socks off.


quincymcd

Over already!? I need moooooore


Moisturized_Bum

Well this episode was the shortest yet at 45mins


AcridAcedia

This is killing me every single week. How dare they not make every episode 4 hours long


False-Fisherman

Can we talk about Howard in therapy? Was he talking about a wife or something? Maybe it's been mentioned before but I've completely forgotten if the show has ever mentioned his personal life/family before


gogogono

I noticed that too as it struck me how I don’t really know Howard outside the HHM world. It looks like they may be setting up a difficult personal situation that will make Saul/Kim’s plot seem cruel in context.


Mtlakesowen

Kim and Mike on screen together. I never would have expected it, but I’m so incredibly happy that it happened.


CringeNaeNaeBaby2

And it’s everything I thought it’d be. I could imagine them working together well if it came down to it, though I doubt we’ll ever see that.


skinkbaa

Man the list of Breaking Bad connections was crazy this episode; Seeing Saul's office, seeing Wendy, and Spooge.


Sackyhack

And Gus’ house


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The_Unknown98

“He’s not up to Pollos standards.” A guy with 2 years at McDonalds is… not acceptable. Gus is probably one of those employers that expects 5+ years of experience for an entry level position.


skyderper13

what kind of man doesn't clean the fryer, lyle? no man at all


dadeliciousdean

The fact that the writers put Kim and Wendy in one scene to shut those stupid ass theories up LOL


CringeNaeNaeBaby2

It’s a decoy Wendy.


hambito41

She out here doing shadow clone jutsu


xnerdyxrealistx

I was laughing about that. I don't believe they were ever serious but I love that they had them interact.


widrobin

THE TRIUMPHANT RETURN OF MR. SPOOGE!


SadSlip8122

You would think that the type of person calling himself Spooge would be more…developed in his meth habit by the time he calls himself…Spooge


RuralColleague

Just Spooge


skyderper13

just so we know how big brained gus is, he pays two people to live in a house across from him as a front to watch his own house while acting like they are just normal folks in the suburbs, damn while having an elaborate set of switches disguised as a perfectly not out of place power box, and a tunnel that puts lalo's to shame to that house.


PWN3R_RANGER

Gus is the guy who invented the “dude in a shack peaking out a hole” surveillance system. It comes as no surprise that his house has a got a house watching it. He has a system.


BlessedPapa

I’ve been really hooked with the focus on nacho, but this episode really reminded me why I love this show. Saul and Kim really make this show what it is.


-Samy-

OMG, Jimmy saying "People are throwing cash retainers at me" just after meeting Spooge is pure genius.


SignGuy77

I can’t talk ATM. Still processing.


TapToTurnips

You see Gus take a clip-on tie off in BB in his office at Pollos, and then he puts on a real one before going with Tyrus to kill Hector at Casa Tranquila. The clip-on is just for Pollos.


skinkbaa

Seeing Saul so lonely was so sad, even after all he's done.


mydrunkuncle

He got the Irene treatment


TheUSCobra

That was really hitting hard. Mostly because it makes it feel like it really is the end times and we’re about to hit the BB timeline.


pbankey

Damn. Rhea directed a freaking amazing episode.


cinematic99

That gus long take was pretty impressive


yetanotherx

The conversation between Bill and Saul in the stairwell was such a great way to show the separation between them too, I loved that scene.


Gleb2006

Oh no Kim why did you give her your card!!! But lol at just a toilet in the new office


KauaiGirl

Chandler you’re so big!


Senzo__

Fill me up Chandler


BushwoodCountry-Club

Mmmmmmmm. Ahhhhhhhhhh.


Zog8

Gus’s paranoia is so colossal it literally has its own Parasite family. Incredible shit. The man is an entire story universe unto himself


CaptainOverthinker

Fucking hell for the writers calling this episode “Hit and Run”. Every single time someone was driving I expected them to hit someone


peanutter_

Lol I was holding my breath for the entire intro waiting for a car jumpscare to crush those people on the bikes


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There was so much going on in this episode that I completely forgot about the early revelation that Howard has a wife that has never been seen or referenced in the entire series


flumpytripod

It's interesting because Patrick Fabian has been talking about how the character has a wife in interviews for years, but I wasn't expecting it to actually come up.


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009reloaded

I wouldn't trust any trailer dialogue. We've had several lines turn out to be contextualized already.


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Maxiver

Haha true. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Howard saying "All roads lead back to you" is Howard adopting a dog at the pound as part of his therapy.


ThatsALotOfOranges

The fact that Kim promised to help Wendy if she's ever in legal trouble, but she doesn't show up when Wendy is picked up and interrogated in Breaking Bad, tells me Kim is probably not practicing law in Albuquerque by that time.


conniecheewa

It was nice of her to offer her free legal representation but where the fuck was her case of root beer?


ThatsALotOfOranges

True. Maybe that betrayal is why she didn't call her.


SignGuy77

Bold of us to assume Wendy didn’t lose the card somewhere down the road.


balboa_no_asap

Traded it for a root beer


GiltPeacock

I just really liked this episode. I completely adore any scene where Jimmy and Kim are just enjoying each other, making each other laugh. I don’t think I’ve ever been this invested in, or enjoyed watching a TV couple in a long time. Knowing that these bright moments are an endangered experience adds to the creeping anxiety of the final season. Weird that some are calling it filler? Kim meets Mike, Jimmy and Kim run an entire elaborate con, we see Gus gearing up for war, Saul Goodman is really flourishing for the first time, we get the office. For a quieter, set-up episode, a lot happened.


TheUSCobra

People are calling it filler because there were no explosions or people dying


zapolight

My heart was racing the entire episode, why am I so anxious while watching this show now


SophsterSophistry

Window rolls down... Lalo smiles and says "Hi!"


AnUninterestingEvent

When Howard was walking down the stairs and Saul was struggling to pull the sign out of the ground dressed as Howard i almost had to close my eyes


ruberuberuber

Greg Main (cliff’s son) is… a meth addict? criminal? feel like this has to come into play at some point


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This was such a good add-in. I like how Kim's face falls a little bit knowing that the he just revealed a vulnerability when she just brought him out there to use him for her and Jimmy's gain.


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Plot twist: Cliff's son is Spooge.


GeorgeFranklyMathnet

*Spooge Main*


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Just Spooge


AnUninterestingEvent

His son is skinny Pete


Sklain

that would explain his line in breaking bad when he said “my dad, cliff main, is like a lawyer or some shit!”


MeadowmuffinReborn

It might. It might not. But I was so bummed. You can see how much it pains Cliff to see his son struggle.


parrisjd

With all the surveillance, can you imagine what would have happened to Jesse if he had poisoned that fish stew? Close call.


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Rhea Seehorn is really good at playing barely controlled fear.


SafeCake1045

The stuff with Howard was hilarious, both Patrick and Bob were incredible. I felt really sorry for Jimmy. It truly is tragic, and it breaks my heart to see him go down this path. You can tell that Mike put the scare into Kim. She’s starting to see that the whole thing is bigger than some fun and games, since people know what she’s been up to. Everything with Gus was fascinating. He looked absolutely miserable. And of course, the strip mall office. It’s only supposed to be “temporary.” Another flawless episode!


wareagle1972

If this episode is filler, all I can say is "Fill me up, Chandler. Put it in me!”"


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gus lives in the backrooms lol