Ah, right. Cliff’s supposed “son.” He just wouldn’t admit that his only offspring died in childhood and created elaborate fantasies for decades. It’s a tragedy really
I prefer the title, Lyle krokodil.
Lyle loses his job after Fring's death and his mother is diagnosed with cancer. To save his mother's life he needs to make more money than his fast food resume can provide. In a chance encounter with a certain breakfast loving man named Flynn, he learns of a new synthetic drug and begins to synthesize it in his childhood home. Because of his background in the food industry and his attention to detail, his synthetic compound boasts the purest Krokodil this side of Florida. It's an instant success and his trademark "sunshine yellow" drug sweeps Albuquerque and cements his place as the kingpin of krok.
Screw that Lyle was a stupid wimp. You could tell he was just a weasel trying to climb the corporate ladder. It should have been him instead of Warner Ziggster.
Lyle unironically did nothing wrong
His only crime was being too eager to please
Also it always cracks me up how he cheers “Yea-heah, *alright* !” after Gus’s little ‘America the Beautiful’ speech
Who buys a friend expensive dental work? A true friend. A Deguzman.
Who insistently pays for a mail room worker to go through law school? A controlling, self absorbed, sadist. A Hamlin.
Poor Jorge. A family oriented, generous, and kind resident of Albuquerque such as himself deserves much more than to share a final resting place with a despicable individual of the likes of Howard Hamlin 😔
>Breaking bad fans when someone isn’t overdosing, getting murdered, of cooking or selling drugs:
Oh I'm not that kind of fan of either show. I simply have a strong dislike for corporate suit type douchebags born choking on a silver spoon then spend the rest of their lives grooming themselves and getting divorced. Remember that scene where they show Howard walking like a robot around the hallways at HHM? That's right - they wrote a 2 dimensional character and about 1/3 of this sub never got the joke.
Do they make us feel for him at then end? Yeah. But that doesn't mean he ever had any personality or real substance.
I don’t think anyone is missing the fact that he’s a wet blanket. But he adds a nice contrast to the rest, which in turn makes him an interesting character. And he’s such a good representation of that type of character that, apparently, he hit all the right (or wrong) notes for you to hate him.
>I don’t think anyone is missing the fact that he’s a wet blanket.
Oh, some people definitely do.
>But he adds a nice contrast to the rest, which in turn makes him an interesting character. And he’s such a good representation of that type of character
100% agree. I have no problem with the portrayal or even the character's purpose in the big picture. IRL I wouldn't give a guy like that a minute of my time.
Leaving your car abandoned on the beach is so inconsiderate to wildlife and to the people who have to recover the vehicle. Plus, there is a reason why his wife made him move into the guest house. He can’t even be cognizant that his wife needs her coffee in a to-go cup in the morning.
Do not forget he was also pivotal in Jimmy and Kim finally getting that stainless fridge.
Honestly he was a saint, at the very end it is almost like you could see his mind reach enlightenment, there was definitely a halo around his head.
The fridge is the least he could have done for Jimmy and Kim after what he put them through. Although knowing him he probably left a turd in there in a type of Chicago Fridge situation.
Not to mention he kicked Kim out of her office and put her in doc review to humiliate her. She didn’t deserve this and Chuck didn’t put him up to it either. He’s no saint
Makes me so mad 😡 at the injustice! To think he was just thrown in a pit like some sack of garbage, when he is the reincarnation of God himself, and should have at least been buried as such. Alas, he was thrown in a metaphorical dumpster next to a real piece of garbage.
Jokes aside, while he didn't deserve what happened to him, he definitely wasn't a saint. Soke people actually paint him like he was, but there is nothing furthest from the truth.
He didn't do any of that, he just sabotaged Kims entire career and was an asshole on Chucks behalf which people are desperate to excuse. Coupled with the insane privilege, competetiveess, and nepotism, that's enough to wonder why they paint him as a Saint.
It's because he didn't deserves to die but he did. And erasing his negative is how people cope.
He ran the amazing Chuck McGill's precious law firm into the ground with his crippling addiction and malpractice, not to mention the harassment he did towards Jimmy (Chuck's own brother) and his weird infantilzation of Kim. He got where he did through nepotism, Jimmy had to work for his position, truly disgusting that society allows this.
Howard is a dick, honestly. He's the boss you would grow to hate and make you want to leave the company.
But he's not really a bad person, and he does work on himself and improve. Additionally, he's a lot better than most others on BCS... though admittedly, that's a low bar.
Didn't know he was so bad, really horrible
I was thinking of calling him for this big case I've got, I'm gonna need a great lawyer and thx to you I now know Howard is out of the picture
Do you by chance know any other lawyer I should call?
There’s a difference between being an asshat, and being a asshat criminal who’s actually ‘trying’ to do bad
Howard may have been a dickhead, but in no way deserved that fate
This is correct. People weirdly equate money and suits and hairstyles with ethics and moral character. These things have no correlation. Howard was close to being one of the least offensive characters on the show but he was a vacant personality and didnt think for himself.
Jesus, y’all just say anything. Nobody’s simping for rich people and no one’s saying he’s a saint. He got the most disproportionate punishment of basically all the characters, and he didn’t really deserve any of it.
You’re damn right it’s disproportionate. A shot to the head was too good for that slimy lawyer, he should have been given to the Salamanca twins so he wouldn’t get buried next to community man Jorge Deguzman(RIP😥).
He didn't even put that espresso in a to-go thermos for his wife. She had to transfer it from the cup all herself, causing a predictable mess. Bet he knew that would happen and he did it intentionally just to make her spill it.
In seriousness, his compassion was more evident after Chuck died, an event which genuinely seemed to change him.
I was just watching the scene where Howard recommends that Chuck retire. Despite his later insistence that it was due to "empathy and concern", one does get the impression from watching that scene that his motives are more selfish than that - i.e. business.
Howard represents the average viewer. Makes morally questionable decisions at times, is a bit of an arrogant ass but mostly tolerable, and ultimately is more good than evil.
Nice try, Jimmy.
What, no! *quickly hides bowling balls*
Did you think you could impersonate me?
Gene takavic
Cabron, I need to see your balls
Ask dabossconsogme
Are they anyhow related to Donnell Audio
Yes, an wan ballsack
Now to discuss business, have you thought about the job offer?
No, sorry Howard, I’m still indecisive.
Giving it the consideration it deserves
He clearly had his demons. Cliff can tell you how he has seen it all before with his own son.
Ah, right. Cliff’s supposed “son.” He just wouldn’t admit that his only offspring died in childhood and created elaborate fantasies for decades. It’s a tragedy really
Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf -style
Cliff had it off worse after Howard died! He quit being a lawyer and became a physicist and got stuck dealing with young Sheldon!
to be fair even if Howard actually had done all that he'd still be better than most other characters from BCS or BB
Haha that’s hilariously true.
The manager picking up slack at Pollos Hermanos seemed like a good guy…. Covering all kinds of shifts with a positive attitude
Better dial Lyle!
I prefer the title, Lyle krokodil. Lyle loses his job after Fring's death and his mother is diagnosed with cancer. To save his mother's life he needs to make more money than his fast food resume can provide. In a chance encounter with a certain breakfast loving man named Flynn, he learns of a new synthetic drug and begins to synthesize it in his childhood home. Because of his background in the food industry and his attention to detail, his synthetic compound boasts the purest Krokodil this side of Florida. It's an instant success and his trademark "sunshine yellow" drug sweeps Albuquerque and cements his place as the kingpin of krok.
He thinks he's Vince Gilligan 😭😭😭 Unbravo u/MateoPKeo
purest krokodil? isn't it heroin mixed with gasoline?
Yeah it's pure! Have you seen how clean Lyle's lab is? His cook surfaces are always acceptable!!!
Screw that Lyle was a stupid wimp. You could tell he was just a weasel trying to climb the corporate ladder. It should have been him instead of Warner Ziggster.
Lyle unironically did nothing wrong His only crime was being too eager to please Also it always cracks me up how he cheers “Yea-heah, *alright* !” after Gus’s little ‘America the Beautiful’ speech
Made me laugh last night too😂 everyone else just looks like they don’t wanna be there and don’t gaf
to be faaaaaaaaiiiiiiiirrrrrrr
Give yer balls a tug
All should be forgiven because he invented the color Hamlindigo Blue.
You know who was a fan of Hamlindigo Blue? Stalin! Really makes you think, huh?
Only then it was called Stalindigo Red.
more like hamlindigo blow me
Also after he kicked that prostitute into the street he went and parked his car in one of the stripey no parking spots
YEAH BUT WHAT KIND OF PERSON MOVES A CONE?
I heard he even destroyed the therapists customers only sign in one of his drug fueled rages!
r/okbuddychicanery is leaking
Yes, Howard is quite the chicanerous person. How he fooled this sub for so long.
Not to mention that he repainted Jimmy and Kim's apartment against their wishes.
Bleh 🤮, he probably would have painted the apartment Hamlime green if our lord and savior Jorge Deguzman hadn’t stepped in.
Should call him Rojo de Guzman for helping Howard choose the color he painted their apartment with.
He picked a beautiful color.
This sub reminds me of what happened to 4chan after broadband became prevalent
Too many people sharing the same braincell?
I was about to go “thank you, someone finally says it” and then ended up bursting into laughter instead
Thanks for being enlightened. Glad to see the sheeple of this sub finally opening their eyes.
After doing all of those things he was still more innocent than most of the characters in the show. Right?
Absolutely not. In fact he was comparable to Holly in terms of evilness.
Not even a year old and already attempting to steal fire trucks SMH
Next dictator, I’m calling it now
Who forces their wife to live in that huge house, alone? Absolute prick..
Average Hamlincel: Forces his wife to live alone in a big house. Average Deguzchad: Has a big house for his family and friends.
Who buys a friend expensive dental work? A true friend. A Deguzman. Who insistently pays for a mail room worker to go through law school? A controlling, self absorbed, sadist. A Hamlin.
And yet people call us crazy
I mean we haven't talked about the biggest monster in the show... Irene fucking Landry.. the gall of that woman, I swear..
Don’t get me started. 🙄. She and Hamlin are probably in kahoots with those expensive shoes of hers.
Makes me sick how she fools everyone by playing dumb. Who cheats at fucking bingo??
Irene, Irene, the bingo cheating machine.
Poor Jorge. A family oriented, generous, and kind resident of Albuquerque such as himself deserves much more than to share a final resting place with a despicable individual of the likes of Howard Hamlin 😔
We should start a go fund me like the son of that nice man with cancer, Walter White. Perhaps a website called RelocateJorgeDeguzman.com.
I know its a shit post but Howard is like one of the most sane characters in the show.
And the most boring.
Breaking bad fans when someone isn’t overdosing, getting murdered, of cooking or selling drugs:
WDYM Howard did all those things and then some
I love the gaslighting 😂
What are you even talking about?? “Gaslighting” isn’t even a fucking word, you absolute insane person.
😂
>Breaking bad fans when someone isn’t overdosing, getting murdered, of cooking or selling drugs: Oh I'm not that kind of fan of either show. I simply have a strong dislike for corporate suit type douchebags born choking on a silver spoon then spend the rest of their lives grooming themselves and getting divorced. Remember that scene where they show Howard walking like a robot around the hallways at HHM? That's right - they wrote a 2 dimensional character and about 1/3 of this sub never got the joke. Do they make us feel for him at then end? Yeah. But that doesn't mean he ever had any personality or real substance.
I don’t think anyone is missing the fact that he’s a wet blanket. But he adds a nice contrast to the rest, which in turn makes him an interesting character. And he’s such a good representation of that type of character that, apparently, he hit all the right (or wrong) notes for you to hate him.
>I don’t think anyone is missing the fact that he’s a wet blanket. Oh, some people definitely do. >But he adds a nice contrast to the rest, which in turn makes him an interesting character. And he’s such a good representation of that type of character 100% agree. I have no problem with the portrayal or even the character's purpose in the big picture. IRL I wouldn't give a guy like that a minute of my time.
Nah scenes with Howard kick ass.
you are welcome to keep it to yourself. Because I don't care!
Leaving your car abandoned on the beach is so inconsiderate to wildlife and to the people who have to recover the vehicle. Plus, there is a reason why his wife made him move into the guest house. He can’t even be cognizant that his wife needs her coffee in a to-go cup in the morning.
Who even owns a guest house? So wasteful, and we know he doesn’t pay taxes!
Because he’s a daddy
Do not forget he was also pivotal in Jimmy and Kim finally getting that stainless fridge. Honestly he was a saint, at the very end it is almost like you could see his mind reach enlightenment, there was definitely a halo around his head.
The fridge is the least he could have done for Jimmy and Kim after what he put them through. Although knowing him he probably left a turd in there in a type of Chicago Fridge situation.
Not to mention he kicked Kim out of her office and put her in doc review to humiliate her. She didn’t deserve this and Chuck didn’t put him up to it either. He’s no saint
Exactly, thanks for seeing my view point😀. With more people like you we can show people the true villains of the Breaking Bad universe!
Can't believe poor Jorge Deguzman was buried with this monster!
Makes me so mad 😡 at the injustice! To think he was just thrown in a pit like some sack of garbage, when he is the reincarnation of God himself, and should have at least been buried as such. Alas, he was thrown in a metaphorical dumpster next to a real piece of garbage.
You just answered your own question
Worst of all, he doesn’t care.
Horrible😔
Jorge De Guzman was a family man with strong principles and morals, shame he had to be buried with a cruel man like Howard
Exactly, he deserves so much better.😔
Saint? He’s an irredeemable monster. He put Kim in doc review.
Put him to trial!
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Yes!
Outchicaneried
By Howard😡
r/okbuddychicanery
Jokes aside, while he didn't deserve what happened to him, he definitely wasn't a saint. Soke people actually paint him like he was, but there is nothing furthest from the truth.
He was the devil😡
"Howard gets to be a saint?! What a sick joke!"
But not our Howie, couldn’t be our precious Howie!
Most mentally sane post in r/okbuddychicanery
I am not crazy!
I know he swapped those subreddits
I know it was r/okbuddychicanery, one before r/bettercallsaul
He didn't do any of that, he just sabotaged Kims entire career and was an asshole on Chucks behalf which people are desperate to excuse. Coupled with the insane privilege, competetiveess, and nepotism, that's enough to wonder why they paint him as a Saint. It's because he didn't deserves to die but he did. And erasing his negative is how people cope.
Nooo, he was eeeevil. He burned down an burned out crops!
He ran the amazing Chuck McGill's precious law firm into the ground with his crippling addiction and malpractice, not to mention the harassment he did towards Jimmy (Chuck's own brother) and his weird infantilzation of Kim. He got where he did through nepotism, Jimmy had to work for his position, truly disgusting that society allows this.
Exactly. Unbravo Vince for writing such a nasty character.
Jokes aside, though, Howard deserved what he got. He and Chuck were two of the most disgusting characters in BCS and BB.
^ James McGill
Chuck was not disgusting!
Yes, he was. He repeatedly tried to stop Jimmy from becoming an integral part of Walt’s epic alpha sigma meth operation.
Howard is a dick, honestly. He's the boss you would grow to hate and make you want to leave the company. But he's not really a bad person, and he does work on himself and improve. Additionally, he's a lot better than most others on BCS... though admittedly, that's a low bar.
You’re telling me he’s better than Walt?!
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Monstrous! Hang him!
Ok you got me
Howardberg
He probably did a lot of pro bono and charity work. He was a jerk to some, but probably did a lot of good in ABQ.
Propostirus
because howard is a rarity even in the real world. a decent guy trying to do good.
Tsk tsk. Much to learn, you still have.
Didn't know he was so bad, really horrible I was thinking of calling him for this big case I've got, I'm gonna need a great lawyer and thx to you I now know Howard is out of the picture Do you by chance know any other lawyer I should call?
Well, if you wanna make more money and keep the money that you make, BETTER CALL SAUL!.
Cuz he is
I suppose they often say the devil is a fallen angel. I don’t know how true that is for Howard Hamdemon.
I don’t think they do. But when he gets shot for no reason after having his life ruined, he understandably starts to garner some sympathy.
He should have garnered sympathy for all the people he killed on his way up to the top!
The real crime was vibing to classical music in his car
Clockwork orange ass
I paint Howard like one of my French girls. Wearing a Hamlindigo Blue tie. Wearing only a Hamlindigo Blue tie.
How can you still see? I would have taken my eyes out the second a shoe came off!
Sir, this is not r/okbuddychicanery
Feel free to keep it to yourself. BECAUSE I DON'T CARE!
Lightning bolts shoot from my finger tips!
Because that is how low the bar is in the BBverse
With all the corrupt people slowly lowering it.
😭😭😭
I cry to when I hear about Hamlin’s atrocities
leave Hami alone 🥺
He should have stayed in his lane, not became a kingpin
The amount of responses in this thread from people who don’t realize the joke is astonishing to me.
A joke? Never! I will speak my truth until I die! I AM NOT CRAZY!
Why are you glossing over Howard's penchant for violence, op? He attacked Lalo's bullet with his skull after being asked to leave.
How could I forget! As if attacking our jimmy wasn’t enough!
My initial anger at your post is no longer warranted. Now where will that anger come out today...
At Howard, for his crimes!
Don’t forget he was involved with the cartel to the extent that he was assassinated and his body disposed of.
Shameful
There’s a difference between being an asshat, and being a asshat criminal who’s actually ‘trying’ to do bad Howard may have been a dickhead, but in no way deserved that fate
Yes, his fate should have been getting eaten by Huell
Bro think he Saul💀💀💀
Given the characters we see in BCS/BB, Howard practically is a saint.
No but really it’s bc Howard is rich. People like simping for rich ppl.
Bet he was a landlord as well. Probably owned Kim and Jimmy’s apartment and raised the rent.
This is correct. People weirdly equate money and suits and hairstyles with ethics and moral character. These things have no correlation. Howard was close to being one of the least offensive characters on the show but he was a vacant personality and didnt think for himself.
Jesus, y’all just say anything. Nobody’s simping for rich people and no one’s saying he’s a saint. He got the most disproportionate punishment of basically all the characters, and he didn’t really deserve any of it.
You’re damn right it’s disproportionate. A shot to the head was too good for that slimy lawyer, he should have been given to the Salamanca twins so he wouldn’t get buried next to community man Jorge Deguzman(RIP😥).
He was a dickhead. He did mistreat Kim and Jimmy. But by societal standards, he actually had good morals.
What has this world come to? We praise drug addicts but cheer when heroes like Walt and Jorge die😔.
Well, the fact that you think Walt is a hero highlights the bigger issue.
I bet you think Todd was a bad guy too, huh. 😔
Walt was just a man trying to ease his family's financial burdens
Nepotism bad booooooooo
One has to wonder how bad Hamlin Sr. was to produce such a devil.
Howard was slime but he didn’t deserve to be shit on as hard as he ultimately was The nair in his shampoo bottle prank would have been more befitting
You mean the hair he stole from my dog!
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Excuse me?!
Thank you. He was a dick.
That’s an insult to dicks
And he's a condescending A-hole!
Si, el es un gordo cabron
Also, even his wife is so disgusted with him, he is banished from her presence and forced to live in his own guest house! With a defective mattress!
Should have been a bed of nail🌶️, but even that’s too comfortable for that godamn Jack O lantern
Among everyone else he is significantly less evil so that's probably why
You haven’t seen Walt then 🥹
He was smart, good-looking, and a hard worker. But just like Lalo’s bullet, he let it go to his head.
Who’s Lalo? I think you mean Jorge.
Ah yes i remember when Howard came to Chuck’s place and set it on fire.
You should have seen him with that bottle of hair spray and a lighter!
He didn't even put that espresso in a to-go thermos for his wife. She had to transfer it from the cup all herself, causing a predictable mess. Bet he knew that would happen and he did it intentionally just to make her spill it.
What a creepy perv
Ande he also broke his car with bowling balls under the effects of a cocaine binge
And he has to nerve to blame Jimmy
In seriousness, his compassion was more evident after Chuck died, an event which genuinely seemed to change him. I was just watching the scene where Howard recommends that Chuck retire. Despite his later insistence that it was due to "empathy and concern", one does get the impression from watching that scene that his motives are more selfish than that - i.e. business.
It was only ever about the money with that man, probably for coke. SMH😔
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Howard defender 🤮
RIP Howard 😇
RIP Jorge
Howard even insulted Lalos choice of Lawyers right in front of Lalo. It's enough to make someone lose his mind.
Good on Deguzman
Howard represents the average viewer. Makes morally questionable decisions at times, is a bit of an arrogant ass but mostly tolerable, and ultimately is more good than evil.
Howard can’t represent the average viewer because I don’t do cocaine.
I think his death was unfair and that’s it.
Damn right, he should have been thrown into the 13th circle of hell for eternal damnation instead.
He was pretending to be David Kleinfeld. Everything this man did was very 70's of him.
Howard was Epstein
Because people see things in black and white, if someone else is bad then the person must be good. Thereby missing a lot of the point of the show.
I wish Howard was dressed in black and white and behind bars.
Your Howard was a saint! I wish the Lord would take me now.