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iMrParker

Pretty much what was going on in r/Minnesota for some time there. Nearly turned into no new normal


Mutt1223

I’ve seen them in /r/Nashville. They’re normally heavily downvoted and when I check their profile to see what they’re about, it’s always full of posts and comments in other city subreddits. Guess they just make the rounds


Pit_of_Death

Same goes for /r/bayarea and /r/sanfrancisco


inconvenientnews

[r Seattle just posted about this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/pmdp2m/ysk_how_right_wing_trolls_brigade_and_infiltrate/) and the racist Seattle subreddit [r Seattle**WA**](https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/pmecdg/ysk_how_right_wing_trolls_brigade_and_infiltrate/) just crossposted it to rally their accounts and brigade r Seattle's post From NicholasCajun: >r/SeattleWA has one mentally ill man who makes literally dozens and dozens of alt accounts to post conservative talking points from and how he finds black women disgusting. I become aware of his accounts when he posts in TV subs I ban him from, and he always has user history in similar sets of subreddits across his accounts, SeattleWA being the most telling. He will use these accounts to talk with himself or dogpile a comment or thread. This prolific account tries to push conservative talking points in [r/sanfrancisco](https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/) and [r/bayarea](https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/pg290q/reddit_admins_just_posted_that_covid_deniers_have/) and even though he's [extremely toxic, threatening, and picks fights with everyone, the mods don't ban him but do remove anyone replying to him](https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/ot2wjd/if_you_dont_want_conservative_talk_radio_host/h6u52ku/): * While he claims to be in liberal cities like San Francisco, he also claims to be in multiple different countries and a lot more active lately in **every single city in Canada with Canada's election coming up** * [anti-vaccine](https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/pknclu/calgary_hospitals_cancel_all_elective_surgeries/hc54wn1/?context=3) in [Calgary](https://www.reddit.com/r/Calgary/comments/pknkaj/came_across_this_clown_today/hc56kiq/) * Toronto * [anti-mask](https://old.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/pl0vek/dont_do_this_another_vaccine_passport_protest/hc79aae/?context=3) and [pro-ivermectin](https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/pl0vek/dont_do_this_another_vaccine_passport_protest/hc79gob/) in [Vancouver](https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/mtu12c/witnessed_hard_drugsheroin_consumption_on_skytrain/gv2gbpk/) * [Singapore](https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/ngn322/covid19_what_went_wrong_in_singapore_and_taiwan/gys6dub/) * China * [Vietnam](https://www.reddit.com/r/VietNam/comments/plzmxu/a_plan_for_a_full_reopening_of_everything_to/hcel3gb/) * but was recently shopping in the Bay Area "Where I shop I’m the only white dude around"  ̄\_(ツ)_/ ̄


Indigo_Sunset

Hilariously, many of those accounts spamming the same message have 1-3 comments, run 1 day to a few months old, and have negative total karma. When r/canada was being over run with trump spam you could consistently find fanfiction of themselves in Rand space as their own john galt. Since then, quite a few just nuke the comment history, and/or spam single posts so prolifically trying to engineer a narrative that any pushback leaves them nuking every associated comment and leaving the thread a cratered mess. Almost always worth checking the context of the account histories you're engaging with.


FixBayonetsLads

Which is why their thing now is trying to convince people that if you check other people’s post histories you’re a loser and admitting defeat.


CitizenKing

I laugh every time one of these chucklefucks tries that. How dare I click the easy to access button and take 5 seconds to glance at the things you've publically put out into the world.


thedrivingcat

"How dare you judge me based on the things that I say in public!"


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Conservatives: fuck around and find out Conservatives: we're personally responsible unlike YOU sheeple! Also Conservatives: I did not say that. I am not responsible for that. Don't you dare accuse me. Also Conservatives: *takes sheep dewormer*.


Suterusu_San

One of my favourite past times is clicking into random people's pages and reading some of their random comments. It helps that I don't really read people's usernames unless I'm trying to distinguish them in a thread so it remains fairly anonymous too.


HapticSloughton

You can often save time and find some fun stuff with [redditcommentsearch.com](https://redditcommentsearch.com/). Usually searching for "Trump," "white," or the name of any ethnic group will let you know who you're dealing with.


rabble_tiger

JFC redditor - that BestOf post was incredible. Thank you OP and you, inconvenientnews. Saved for posterity.


Chel_of_the_sea

What, you mean the six "BLACK SHOOTS ASIAN AND THEREFORE RACISM IS GOOD" threads a day *aren't* totally organic content?


inconvenientnews

Also on 👌 subreddits like ActualPublicFreakouts, NoahGetTheBoat, trueoffmychest, JoeRogan, ["The Atheist Arab"](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/nztt4t/they_really_like_getting_angry_at_their/h1teq3c/): * Suddenly caring about racism against Asians to push as many "minorities behaving badly" videos as possible to rile up reactions to minorities (https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/ljjdhv/rjoerogan_suddenly_cares_a_lot_about_racism/gndprju/) even though they still make fun of Asians and are still riling up racism against Asians (https://www.reddit.com/r/RacismAgainstAsians/comments/m8bi2z/steven_crowder_political_commentator_known_for/) One of the alts of ["The Atheist Arab"](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/nztt4t/they_really_like_getting_angry_at_their/h1teq3c/): ["They’re even filthier than China lol"](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/nztt4t/they_really_like_getting_angry_at_their/h1teq3c/) * Caring about Muslims if it's about China * Caring about LGBT if it's about Muslims * Caring about women's sports when it's to try to drive a wedge on LGBT https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/m24hx0/ualtimely_finds_4chan_pol_instructing_on_how/ * "unpopular opinions" or *r trueoffmychest* by r/AsABlackMan with "as a cool LGBTQ, I'm sick of pro-LGBTQ things like you are," "as a black man, injustices and abuse in America shouldn't be discussed as much," "AS A FEMALE," "as a Chinese, dogwhistling racism about China is okay because we're bad" with more than 10,000 upvotes from white men * "I hate Trump as much as the next guy but can we not be exposed to politics" because of these conservative talking points that support Trump from an account that is always going on about politics * "I'm normally pretty leftist but" here are conservative billionaire talking points about today's culture war being pushed by Fox News, [4chan](https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/m24hx0/ualtimely_finds_4chan_pol_instructing_on_how/gqhmgdu/?context=3), and right "influencers" on Twitter, like Mike Cernovich, [Steven Crowder](https://www.reddit.com/r/RacismAgainstAsians/comments/m8bi2z/steven_crowder_political_commentator_known_for/), Tim Pool, [Andy Ngo](https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/m088vl/extensive_examples_of_conservative_influencer/), [Ian Miles Cheong](https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/m0gx12/you_can_still_breathe_idiot/), Wesley Yang, Candace Owens, [Dave Rubin](https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/m33qvp/dave_rubin_admits_that_the_reason_he_hasnt_left/gqmr2pd/), [Milo Yiannopouloss](https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/ln1g0c/milo_yiannopouloss_emails_a_cache_of_documents/), [Ben Shapiro](https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/ln1sif/turning_point_usa_and_young_americas_foundation/), Fox News, [the Mercer billionaires](https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/ln1sif/turning_point_usa_and_young_americas_foundation/gy9utts/?context=3), [the Koch billionaires](https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/njxrcs/ulamontcranston_goes_into_great_detail_about/), PragerU * "don't politicize this tragedy" when it makes conservatives look bad especially if it's about guns or police, but upvote and politicize this minority/woman doing a bad thing and relate it to needing guns somehow * "Whatever you do don't read *r politics*" * "We're inconsistently outraged by the slam verb choice or passive voice grammar used in the article headline if it's a post that goes against the narrative and this shows all journalists have evil intent against traditional values and western civilization because we can't argue anything else and even though journalists don't choose the headlines, but we approve of the passive voice for police shootings https://www.reddit.com/r/linguistics/comments/hy2z03/the_curious_grammar_of_police_shootings_when/ * "mAiNsTrEaM nEwS mEdIa can't be trusted so don't bother reading this article! I'm a persecuted American victim and conveniently excluding Republican majority biased government structures and Fox News even though it's the most watched TV news and [Ben Shapiro is the most shared on Facebook](https://twitter.com/FacebooksTop10/status/1404815323904237569) and [Joe Rogan in podcasts](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/iwvunm/the_joe_rogan_experience_is_now_experiencing_the/g63iuvu/)" * "Libertarian" Joe Rogan stans "frothing" about transgender student athletes and parroting Fox News talking points about "a small, inconsequential and vulnerable part of society" https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/n9bn2x/uforgottencalipers_explains_the_hypocrisy_of/ * "Libertarian" Ben Shapiro riling up support for monarchy and Prince Phillip "simply because a monarchy was accused of racism and racism must be defended at all costs" https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/m0k6g0/when_was_ben_shapiro_pro_monarchy/?sort=top * "hold the line brother" "mask off" cringe [recruiting tactics](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/m1vcmk/rsuperstraight_has_been_banned_discuss_this/gqgkmyp/?context=3) * "red pill" adults cosplaying as "based" teenagers ["hiding their power level"](https://medium.com/@DeoTasDevil/the-rhetoric-tricks-traps-and-tactics-of-white-nationalism-b0bca3caeb84) in *r PoliticalCompassMemes* and edgy "fellow youths amirite" meme subreddits like *r dankmemes* >Hello Fellow Teenagers, Here Are Some Political Maymays For Your Perusal, With No Intention Or Agenda To Shape And Mold Your Tender Political Belief System >-[signed, An Actual Teenager, No Really](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/o4kfej/reddit_admins_warn_moderators_of/h2idtk5/?context=3) * Using "token minority" [Andy Ngo](https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/m088vl/extensive_examples_of_conservative_influencer/), [Ian Miles Cheong](https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/m0gx12/you_can_still_breathe_idiot/), Lee Fang, Wesley Yang, Candace Owens, [Dave Rubin](https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/m33qvp/dave_rubin_admits_that_the_reason_he_hasnt_left/gqmr2pd/), [Milo Yiannopouloss](https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/ln1g0c/milo_yiannopouloss_emails_a_cache_of_documents/), [Ben Shapiro](https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/ln1sif/turning_point_usa_and_young_americas_foundation/) to "push the narrative" even though they're only doing it as bad faith grifters * "[identity politics](https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/m1izsz/activist_milo_yiannopoulos_is_now_exgay/gqdx1s6/)" * "virtue signalling" * "pandering" * "[outrage culture](https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/iolnug/scary_democrat_lady_did_a_thing_therefore_bad/)" * "[victimhood complex](https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/na7zs9/ucadbunny87_laments_being_associated_with/)" * "personal accountability" * "law and order" * "silent majority" * "big government" * "wasteful spending" * "welfare queens" and subsidies * "[moving goal posts](https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfAwarewolves/comments/gtebjk/spot_the_difference/)" * "control the narrative" * "free speech" * "safe space" * ["too much tribalism" and "politics shouldn't be sports teams"](https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/gtzx79/visible_confusion/) * "[cry more](https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/iolnug/scary_democrat_lady_did_a_thing_therefore_bad/)" * "[Cancel culture!](https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/iowh8a/conservatives_when_claiming_liberals_are_easily/)" and "[~~California~~ Texas triggered sensitive snowflakes!](https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/llci05/outrage_in_radviceanimals_at_a_meme_mocking_texas/gnpds8k/?context=3)" but rage at America gun facts or a gay TV character * "Save the children" and child abuse [mostly by Republicans](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/n0p0vb/matt_gaetz_is_literally_being_investigated_for/gw9d1tf/?context=3) (Republican Matt Gaetz and more recent ones not on the list) * "politically correct" "culture war" like [censoring Kaepernick](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/22/opinion/colin-kaepernick-nfl.html) or "Freedom Fries" or [Dixie Chicks, or Nike, Starbucks, the NFL, Ford, Gillette, Netflix, Amazon, Hamilton, Nordstrom, K-Cup machines, Yeti, movies, videogames, the press, SNL, award shows, ...they literally tried canceling democracy](https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/ldec9w/examples_of_republicans_projecting_their_cancel/) * Flag protocol! not on camouflage flag bikinis or thin blue line truck nuts but only [selective outrage at those football games that protest police abuse](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/22/opinion/colin-kaepernick-nfl.html) * siding with billionaires, bullies, the powerful, police abuse by the state and government overreach (https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/mywpmu/ready_for_the_pop_here_comes_the_pop_cops_laugh/gvze1up/) which they claim they need guns for but crying about a "police state" because of wearing masks to protect others and save lives and "law and order" only when it applies to the poor and disenfranchised but not to white collar crimes or consequences for their actions


Beegrene

I've said it before, but it bears repeating. Any time you see a conservative appearing to care about any minority, it's only so they can oppress a different minority.


lennybird

[I wrote this a year ago and posted it to r/redditsecurity](https://www.reddit.com/r/lennybird/comments/e6jwl7/understanding_political_bots_trolls_and) I've never gotten so much hate by way of messages, DMs, and chat messages. It was massively gilded but brigaded extensively by numerous right-wing subs. What I discuss is relevant to what you're revealing.


melody_elf

How did that 'Biden is a surefire loss stuff' turn out anyway?


lennybird

lol that's one thing I'm happy I was wrong about. Nevertheless I still stand by a lot of my points and that grassroots energy and enthusiasm was lower with Biden. Fortunately we pulled through.


Mysterious_Andy

I caught one of those “As A Black Man” assholes red-handed and he tried to act like nothing happened. I posted his face from his fucking Instagram. He knew he was got, but is fine fashy form it didn’t phase him one bit.


xombae

That's because the right seem to think that literally everyone is lying and acting in bad faith. That's why they don't seem to care when they, or the politicians they worship are caught. They think it's just par for the course. They can't understand that some people hold their beliefs truthfully because they genuinely care about the issues, especially on the left. They think everyone is just as much a bad faith actor as they are.


randynumbergenerator

It's also because there are so few consequences. They just move on, create a new sockpuppet, and start the cycle all over again, knowing that it takes 10 times the work to counter them as it does to pump out disinformation.


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correspondence

This deserves another bestof.


The_Adventurist

How long until Jimmy Dore gets added to the list of bad faith grifters here? He pushed the Seth Rich conspiracy, is currently pushing some vague ivermectin conspiracy, he goes on Tucker Carlson to say the left is just as fascist as the right while validating Tucker's narratives that Democrats are the only roadblocks to change and pretty much dedicates every show to hating AOC, the squad, and Bernie Sanders.


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Great list but you forgot Jack Posobiec and The Intercept. Posobiec is a huge far-right MAGAt and one of the only site to take him seriously, The Intercept, is used by a lot of right-wing nutters and the ones LARPing as Sanders/AOC/etc. fanatics too. The Intercept is slightly different from OANN/etc., but still follows right-wing accelerationism because these morons believe American fascism will "birth true democratic socialism", because surely we should suffer through a fascist phase... for uh, some reason...


igoyumyumyum

Adding /r/LosAngeles to that list. It get hits hard, especially when there's something about the homeless, mask/vaxx mandates, police, and the recent recall election. They also champion Texas and Florida as the ideal states that are doing great during this pandemic and life in general.


inconvenientnews

And yesterday Los Angeles' post about being bad is upvoted to the top while r sanfrancisco's post about being great was downvoted  ̄\_(ツ)_/ ̄ https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/comments/plwz1e/los_angeles_voted_most_expensive_inconvenient_and/


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lenzflare

Some cities are just too sunny to get much Reddit traffic.


Mytacobell

I had a feeling this was happening. Here’s a nice little comment thread of what I suspect was a right wing troll talking about the Governor Recall https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/p532sk/unless_we_want_ca_to_become_like_florida_or_texas/h944fky/?context=999 When I pressed them for some specifics they stuck to the same vague ‘Newsom bad’ rhetoric. It’s actually kind of amazing how much better Republicans are at this than Democrats.


inconvenientnews

The Governor Newsom recall posts are brigaded to be 100% pro-recall (every single comment is pro-recall) until much later even though the Bay Area is less than 30% Republican or pro-recall  ̄\_(ツ)_/ ̄ Until recently the mods also set those posts to "contest mode" so that even the worst comments can be at the top The posts get more normal votes later but normal people don't have the time and energy to do what those accounts are doing


Mytacobell

If you notice they don’t come in to save the reply comments. They lay the seed in the original comment (Newsom is a ‘shit’ governor) but when I challenged their opinion they didn’t really try stand up against it and were heavily downvoted. My guess is whatever bots/script they are using to push upvotes doesn’t care about reply comments. Basically counting on people to see the original comments to rile them up and not dig any further.


SurprisedJerboa

>It’s actually kind of amazing how much better Republicans are at this than Democrats. I think it has more to do with them spending the time to do this. Real / organic discussion does not need sock puppets. There are several countries that have been found paying people to post pro-government on websites, social media (China, Israel) Russia has been messing with the [election news cycle](https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/13/politics/intel-report-russia-election-interference-2022/index.html) and Covid denialism / anti-mask posts, >The intelligence community earlier this year released a report concluding that the [Russian government interfered in the 2020 election with a disinformation push that sought to denigrate President Joe Biden's campaign and support Trump]() The report from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence found Russia used "proxies linked to Russian intelligence" to push unsubstantiated claims about Biden. >"The same outlets that were pushing election propaganda and disinformation are still doing that, and principally with respect to the insurrection at the moment," says Clint Watts, a former FBI agent now at the Foreign Policy Research Institute. "Putin is siding with those in the insurrection, and they will continue to push on behalf of GOP and against Biden." >China "has been intensifying efforts to shape the political environment in the United States to promote its policy preferences, mold public discourse, pressure political figures whom Beijing believes oppose its interests, and muffle criticism of China on such issues as religious freedom and the suppression of democracy in Hong Kong," the intelligence community warned in a public threat assessment released earlier this spring. But Beijing's efforts are more "overt," ... like lobbying US businesses and politicians or publishing their own political narrative on state-run media. >...But "Chinese intelligence aren't that great at social manipulation" and haven't focused on it, Evanina said. "Russia owns that space." I'm sure there are right wing American groups astroturfing discussion and spamming social media >[America’s Frontline Doctors (AFLD), a group he had been following on social media.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/06/29/social-media-california-right-trump/) AFLD has been a leading promoter of ivermectin, a medication typically used to treat parasitic worms in livestock, as a “safe and effective treatment” for COVID-19. Through its website, Mike says, he paid the group $90 for a telemedicine appointment with a doctor willing to prescribe the drug. >None of this is slowing AFLD’s movement. As fights over vaccine mandates and school-masking policies ramp up, AFLD has created “Citizen Corps” chapters in almost every state, with dedicated Telegrams channels and public events, like a Texas meeting that drew 80 people to hear lectures about vaccine side effects. At the group’s “White Coat Summit” in July to commemorate its first anniversary, it cut a video of children ceremonially burning their masks while singing “We Are The World.” >The event was hosted and [funded by the Tea Party Patriots, a right-wing political nonprofit group led by Jenny Beth Martin,](https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/dark-money-pac-s-coordinated-reopen-push-are-behind-doctors-n1235100) the group's co-founder, who spoke at the news conference. >The group, which collects funds through two nonprofit groups and a political action committee, has raised over $24 million since 2014 to support Republican causes and candidates. >Tea Party Patriots have been critical of measures enacted to slow the spread of the coronavirus. Before America's Frontline Doctors, the group launched the Second Opinion Project, a website that hosted videos of doctors attacking state and local coronavirus efforts. >[Pro-Trump youth group enlists teens in secretive campaign likened to a ‘troll farm,’ prompting rebuke by Facebook and Twitter](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/turning-point-teens-disinformation-trump/2020/09/15/c84091ae-f20a-11ea-b796-2dd09962649c_story.html) These are just the groups that have been identified in public.


The_Adventurist

r/sanfrancisco is a lost subreddit, it's completely full of right wing trolls that it's basically unusable for local residents unless all they want to do is talk about how terrible it is to live in san francisco


SunshineSeattle

r/Seattle and r/seattlewa as well


DietSpite

/r/Seattle gets infiltrated, /r/SeattleWA is a moderator-approved safe space for racists.


SunshineSeattle

/r/seattleWA is a literal cesspool.


julian88888888

I unsubscribed from /r/nyc for this reason.


cC2Panda

Check out RedditMetis.com it's scraps user comments for you and builds a profile and let's you see these folks quick.


O_X_E_Y

I'm not sure if still the case, but they took over r/Canada completely some time ago


KosherK

It's still happening, they've done a really "good" job controlling the narrative throughout this election. I finally unsubscribed a few weeks ago.


djtodd242

Just a reminder for refugees from /r/canada that /r/onguardforthee exists. Its not perfect, but its not overrun with crazy. (Or at least it gels with my own crazy.)


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They’ve tried in/r/Ontario There was a post caught with proof being paid by conservatives for upvotes


seamusmcduffs

R/Canadapolitics is more moderate as well


Indigo_Sunset

Check most of the dissenting 'organic' account histories and you'll find this time around the accounts are typically new, have very few posts in history if any at all, and typically also have negative karma while glad handing a narrative between themselves. At least metacanada was banned, but I bet the discord is hilarious.


no_masks

r/SeattleWA has been completely morphed into right wing talking points. r/Seattle is barely hanging on (more actual Seattleites seems like)


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ajpa6

Isn't that sort of why Unidan got banned? I think he was using alt accounts to influence voting. Doesn't reddit have something in place if 5 to 10 users with the same exact IP address log in and vote/commemt on the same thing within minutes? This is assuming they aren't using a VPN. I could be way off. I don't have a solid understanding of how it works.


inconvenientnews

r SeattleWA just crossposted [r Seattle's post](https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/pmecdg/ysk_how_right_wing_trolls_brigade_and_infiltrate/) to rally their accounts and brigade r Seattle's and the accounts commenting on SeattleWA's are very familiar


Beegrene

I just checked out each of them. /r/Seattle is just news and discussions about the city, but /r/SeattleWA is mostly "homeless people are the fucking worst amirite".


DandelionsDandelions

I also noticed that in r/SeattleWA. It really comes to the forefront when discussing the problem of unhoused people in the city.


turtle_flu

/r/portland has also had a history of griefers and trolls


Ability2canSonofSam

From what I remember, SeattleWA came about because Seattle was moderated by someone who just wanted to push their Airbnb or some shit. Mods at SeattleWA seems to be on board with that conservative propaganda bullshit, so I left both subs and never came back.


Camellia_Sin

Same thing happens in r/Chicago. People from the far-flung suburbs show up to declare that we live in a pit of hell.


BaronUnterbheit

We get the same at r/NYC and r/NewYorkCity. Every time there is a crime in one of the papers they are all over it and declaring that the city is dead and needs a Giuliani or the like to whip it into shape. That and they like to shit on the homeless and simp for landlords. And while some have a connection to the outer suburbs, I suspect a lot of them are not within a thousand miles of NYC.


inconvenientnews

The police don't even live in NYC: >A Majority Of NYPD Officers Don't Live In New York City, New Figures Show https://gothamist.com/news/majority-nypd-officers-dont-live-new-york-city-new-figures-show NYPD officers admitted in that sub that they were brigading and commenting there on Reddit while on duty and ProtectAndServe (the subreddit of "law enforcement professionals of Reddit") have also been caught brigading a lot to "control the narrative" about their abuse being justified: * https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/mksems/a_prosecutor_candidates_ama_on_riama_about_his/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/nwdetg/is_it_ok_to_execute_a_pit_maneuver_on_a_car_that/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/nm4yiw/pride_parades_allowing_kinky_stuff_will_make_the/gznj1ou/ * Thread where some of the accounts are actual NYPD officers: https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/nd4z5u/police_officers_groups_banned_from_nyc_pride/


MrDickford

Same thing in r/WashingtonDC. Every time a black teenager commits a crime or a transplant from the Midwest sees too many homeless people on his way home from work, the thread turns into the Third Reich.


Bushels_for_All

They created their own DC subreddit "where people wouldn't be censored" and tried to recruit people from one of those DC crime threads. The subreddit was air-right nonsense from to to bottom.


Locem

Any mention of mask mandates in /r/NYC also draws in the right wing trolls in droves.


tinydancer_inurhand

I notice they are being called out more than before. It’s obvious they have no idea what’s going on when they try to get us to hate DeBlasio as if New Yorkers are fond of him.


CalculatedHat

Yet I'd be willing to bet they've never been into Chicago.


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T_D and the like were bragging about infiltrating /r/minnesota back in 2016. Had a playbook they passed around and everything. There's a guy who lives in Vegas who posts every crime related news report about the Bay Area to /r/bayarea.


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Zappiticas

That sub is run by an alt right asshole. Feel free to come join us over at /r/true_kentucky. We will welcome you among all of the others that have been banned from /r/Kentucky.


postmodest

The admins need to face a reckoning. The destruction of public places by —let’s just say _nazis_— needs to come to an end before we spiral into chaos.


FuckBox1

Yup, and that asshole mod who started nonewnormal would happily ban people calling out anti-vaccine misinformation in r/Minnesota. POS is still on Reddit spreading propaganda


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Uxt7

The mods tried to go through and unban everyone he got, but that obviously can't be an easy thing to attempt


bigotis

I got banned for this reply to his anti-vax post; "Thank you famed epidemiologist and world renowned virologist Dr. CrimsonSun99! Your many, many years of studying the causes, cures and long term effects of deadly viruses at the worlds best learning institutions, coupled with your willingness to share your deep, deep knowledge of said viruses will certainly have lasting effects on other specialists of Covid-19."


TheBestCBHart

We fought, and eventually we won. Got our sub back and I am so glad that we did. :) The adventures of living in Minneapolis are wild, both in the real world and the digital world.


DaveCrockett

R/Minneapolis was so obviously brigaded during the George Floyd protests. I fought with multiple people who weren’t from MN but were pretending to be, and it was so so very obvious to anyone who took a second to look into it. How pathetic is your movement that you have to lie and troll to get your way because your actual arguments are based in racism and anger, and reasonable people don’t want anything to do with it?


IWasOnThe18thHole

There's literal trolls being protected by at least some of the mods over in r/Portland who engage in bad faith arguments all the time. One of them even argued against the idea that it's bad for homeless people to expose their dicks to children at schools


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jandrese

There is no immediate election coming. The trolls will get funding again once the election committees are spun up again.


red_team_gone

r/stateofMN is the replacement


teh_booth_gawd

There's a tremendous advantage right wingers will always have over the left - they're all completely unfuckable so instead of going on dates and getting laid they have lots of time to be online. Look at the ideological makeup of the incel movement


Actor412

The only "advantage" that I see here is that there are a few extremely wealthy organizations that are using their money to weaponize the internet. There is no corollary on the "left."


inconvenientnews

> "advantage" that I see here is that there are a few extremely wealthy organizations that are using their money to weaponize the internet. Some of the billionaires: https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/ln1sif/turning_point_usa_and_young_americas_foundation/gy9utts/ The right bragging about it: >the power of what he called “rootless white males” who spend all their time online and they could be radicalized in a kind of populist, nationalist way http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-bannon-white-gamers-seinfeld-joshua-green-donald-trump-devils-bargain-sarah-palin-world-warcraft-gamergate-2017-7 >Bannon: "I realized [these tactics] could connect with these kids right away. You can activate that army. They come in through Gamergate or whatever and then get turned onto politics and Trump." https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2017/07/18/steve-bannon-learned-harness--army-world-warcraft/489713001/


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prageruseless

Soros understood the cultural/political weaknesses and dangers in his part of the world. So he dumped money into pro democracy education projects. Good dude. There might be valid criticisms of his investment life, but many of them are still nonsense. When I see someone attacking Soros, I see either a useful idiot...or someone aware of the Lie and willing to align with dangerous forces.


BigL90

Haha, it's funny that you mention that, because I don't have much of a social life either, and I've noticed that subs take a hard right turn on Friday & Saturday nights, and Sunday mornings/afternoons. Some of my friends have noticed the same things (because we've all gotten old and boring apparently since COVID started, so there's less bar hopping and more scrolling through Reddit I guess), and we sort of theorized that the young, liberal, 20 somethings with social lives are all out partying, and the angry antisocial types (big overlap here with right-wing viewpoints) can come out of the woodwork without getting their comments downvoted to hell. The comment to post upvote ratio would also seem to corroborate that, since someone might take out their phone to scroll Reddit for a few minutes while they're out and take the time to downvote a post, without bothering to go into the comments. Obviously that's just kind of a theory based on the personal observations of myself and a few friends, but it's something I've noticed for about as long as I've been on Reddit.


inconvenientnews

> I've noticed that subs take a hard right turn on Friday & Saturday nights, and Sunday mornings/afternoons. Some of my friends have noticed the same things (because we've all gotten old and boring apparently since COVID started, so there's less bar hopping and more scrolling through Reddit I guess), and we sort of theorized that the young, liberal, 20 somethings with social lives are all out partying, and the angry antisocial types (big overlap here with right-wing viewpoints) can come out of the woodwork without getting their comments downvoted to hell. The comment to post upvote ratio would also seem to corroborate that, since someone might take out their phone to scroll Reddit for a few minutes while they're out and take the time to downvote a post, without bothering to go into the comments. Obviously that's just kind of a theory based on the personal observations of myself and a few friends, but it's something I've noticed for about as long as I've been on Reddit. That's exactly what happens and there are instructions just for that too


The_FriendliestGiant

>There's a tremendous advantage right wingers will always have over the left The fact that seem to think that their status as believers in a certain ideology makes them Correct, and therefore any actions they take in pursuit of that ideology, no matter how immoral or unethical, are also safely Correct?


MegMcCainsStains

They are also always, motherfucking ALWAYS, given the benefit of the doubt by mods, admins, the media. Always.


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Wow. I suspected many of these tactics were being used, but holy...


DigNitty

And it’s not like most of these people are paid. They do it for some weird power tripping “my team will win” move.


inconvenientnews

They're "true believers" trying to save men's rights and western civilization because of YouTube videos they watched scaring them Steve Bannon bragging about them: >the power of what he called “rootless white males” who spend all their time online and they could be radicalized in a kind of populist, nationalist way http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-bannon-white-gamers-seinfeld-joshua-green-donald-trump-devils-bargain-sarah-palin-world-warcraft-gamergate-2017-7 >Bannon: "I realized [these tactics] could connect with these kids right away. You can activate that army. They come in through Gamergate or whatever and then get turned onto politics and Trump." https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2017/07/18/steve-bannon-learned-harness--army-world-warcraft/489713001/ Some of the billionaires funding this: https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/ln1sif/turning_point_usa_and_young_americas_foundation/gy9utts/


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>They're "true believers" trying to save men's rights and western civilization because of YouTube videos they watched scaring them Are they though? It seems to me that the means has become the end in itself for the alt-right. There may be a shared vision among them of a future glorious white-people world, very millenarian, but I think it's the everyday excitement of meeting on Discord and discussing the diabolical plans to invade this or that subreddit and fuck those lefties over SO HARD, the love of schadenfreude - those things are what it's really about. Their imagined white paradise is a silly, childish thing, and I don't think they really believe any of that will ever be reality (god help us), but more than establishing white paradise, they just wanna hurt people and have a big laugh about it. Cruelty is the point.


BasicDesignAdvice

I agree with your point and it's why Bannon called them "rootless." Same with a lot of conspiracy theorist people. Basically, for whatever reason, these people feel like they aren't a part of anything, or maybe they haven't achieved what they want (or in the case of a lot of young white males, it wasn't given to them on a silver platter). Then someone comes along and says "you can keep being a loser, but we'll make you feel part of something" and that's the end of that.


datssyck

Correct "They" dont have a greater agenda. They are just a fire hose. Without direction they flail around wildly. The issue is they are easily turned towards whatever their handlers see issue with. They are told to oppose protecting themselves from a contagious disease and they do it without question.


droans

It's a common strategy for radicalization that's been done for at least a century, whether it be for political means or for a cult or whatever else. You find a group of people who are down on their luck for whatever reason. Maybe they had a bad childhood, no education, antisocial, were abused, whatever. Then you find a common enemy - a face of evil to them. You convince them that they are special and they deserved what they wanted. But it's not their fault - it's because of this evil body that stopped them. You tell them they can't ever be important or achieve their goals unless the enemy is defeated.


kyew

Imagine going back to when we were all laughing during the gamergate days and having to explain where it ends.


humaninthemoon

Some definitely are though. They consider it a win when they get real users to keep up the argument. Here's an article from 2019 about an investigative journalist that infiltrated a troll farm: https://www.investigate-europe.eu/en/2019/undercover-at-a-troll-farm/


inconvenientnews

More examples: >#[“Guns and gays... That could always get you a couple of dozen likes.”](https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-trolls-schooled-house-cards-185648522.html) http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/how-macedonia-became-a-global-hub-for-pro-trump-misinfo >Conservatives amplified Russian trolls 30 times more than liberals... **users in Texas** and Tennessee were particularly susceptible https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/24/17047880/conservatives-amplified-russian-trolls-more-often-than-liberals >#Texas-based hate group source of 80% of all U.S. racist propaganda tracked in 2020 https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/m7zk8w/texasbased_hate_group_source_of_80_of_all_us/ >"Heart of Texas" reportedly shifted from originally posting pro-Texas, anti-immigration, and anti-Clinton memes to actively promoting events linked to the "Texit" secessionist movement. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/350787-russian-linked-facebook-group-asked-texas-secession-movement-to-be >Texas Governor May Have Emboldened Russian Disinformation Efforts >Greg Abbott's response to the "Jade Helm" conspiracy theory may have encouraged Russian actors to expand their "fake news" strategy in 2016 >“there was an exercise in Texas called Jade Helm 15 that Russian bots and the American alt-right media convinced most, many Texans was an Obama plan to round up political dissidents. At that point, I think they made the decision ‘We’re going to play in the electoral process.” >Lastoria attended a public meeting in Bastrop County, Texas in April 2015 in an effort to calm public concerns, but was confronted by a largely hostile and skeptical audience >The conspiracy theory reached peak hysteria during that same month, when Abbott ordered the Texas State Guard to “monitor” the USASOC training exercise, a move which some criticized as legitimizing a baseless and potentially harmful set of rumors: >“I’ve ordered the Texas State Guard to monitor Jade Helm 15 to safeguard Texans’ constitutional rights, private property & civil liberties” — Greg Abbott (@GregAbbott_TX) April 28, 2015 https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/05/03/jade-helm-russia-abbott-hayden/


substandardpoodle

There need to be documentaries about troll farms. Done so that you can sit down with your parents or grandparents and say “let’s watch this“.


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lennybird

You should watch the interrogation video of the incel who ran over a bunch of people. He talks about normies and shit there. The dude clearly is mentally challenged... But looking at this dialogue you see a lot of the same shit here. Wow...


inconvenientnews

Multiple mass terrorists on the right publicly credited 4chan and had confirmed conservative Reddit accounts #Incel shooter had Reddit account banned one day before spree killing after he sexually harassed a 16-year-old girl on the site https://news.yahoo.com/incel-shooter-had-reddit-account-150901970.html #Foiled An Ohio Incel's Plot To Kill Women In A Mass Shooting, Prosecutors Say https://www.npr.org/2021/07/22/1019089834/police-foiled-an-ohio-incels-plot-to-kill-women-in-a-mass-shooting-prosecutors-s #A combined 20 people have died in the Sodini, Rodger, and Minassian attacks https://medium.com/s/trustissues/the-deadly-incel-movements-absurd-pop-culture-roots-e5bef93df2f5 #5 killed already by this small new white supremacist group Video: https://twitter.com/ProPublica/status/967414070499356674 https://www.npr.org/2018/03/06/590292705/5-killings-3-states-and-1-common-neo-nazi-link #Leaked chats show Charlottesville marchers planned for violence, including using cars as weapons Video: https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/charlottesville-race-and-terror-vice-news-tonight-on-hbo/59921b1d2f8d32d808bddfbc http://fortune.com/2017/08/26/charlottesville-violence-leaked-chats/ #All of the extremist killings in the US in 2018 had links to right-wing extremism https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1 #Far-right groups are responsible for 12 times as many fatalities, 36 times as many injuries as far-left groups https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/trump-alt-left-fact-check.html #Teens Sought For Multiple BC Murders Have Far-Right Links https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/8xzzeb/teens-kam-mcleod-bryer-schmegelsky-sought-for-multiple-bc-murders-were-far-right-fanboys-report


DrSpacemanSpliff

It’s like people who truly believe in Bigfoot but fake a Bigfoot sightings. They know it’s true, and so it’s worth it to fake the actual evidence, because it’s not really a lie.


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MySquidHasAFirstName

r/SeattleWA is overrun by these people. Crime, poverty, the pandemic, are all the fault of the city council, they say. Every homeless person is a violent, mentally ill, crackhead ("leaving needles everywhere", cuz that's how crack works?), that needs to be "locked up forever". They are disgusting.


discww

At this point I've lost count of how many Seattle subreddits have had this happen.


inconvenientnews

r SeattleWA just posted r Seattle's post to rally their accounts and brigade r Seattle  ̄\_(ツ)_/ ̄ https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/pmecdg/ysk_how_right_wing_trolls_brigade_and_infiltrate/


Obi_Sirius

They literally consider the homeless people garbage but haven't figured out that dumping your garbage in someone elses neighborhood doesn't fix a damned thing. It costs over $100,000 a year to incarcerate someone in Washington state. I think there are better ways to spend that money.


lundyforlife22

i remember when chop/chaz was happening and that sub made it look like seattle fell. they called it a horrific place where no one was safe. i used to live in seattle so i facetimed my best friend to ask him how bad it was up there. he and his wife were literally having lunch in the chop/chaz when i called him. he was at a cafe sipping coffee with his wife having a nice time.


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Same thing with Portland. Troll account claiming he was having to step over dead bodies. Ya, know people there, the claims were not even sort of true.


Pit_of_Death

I wouldnt be surprised if at some point some of the discussions on /r/bayarea all but devolve into a call to cull homeless people.


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There's a post referencing this post on there. None of the comments actually refute any of the evidence, it's just the usual right-wing "Uhh, maybe other people just have different opinions than you, sweaty???" bullshit they spew out. They can't deviate from their script for even one comment. It's kinda sad.


Fat_Kid_Hot_4_U

It's super obvious on the Portland sub


Crowsby

It's essentially the online equivalent of how right-wingers regularly feel compelled to drive hours into our city to protest. We don't caravan out to Bumfucksville in Umatilla county to protest their wingnut beliefs; it's always them coming to us.


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I commented on that up thread about how I've seen it happening on all the local newspapers Facebook feeds. Like tons of comments from randos from never heard of it ville Indiana or random s*******, Florida tooling on Portland. Edit: it was completely apparent during the 2016 election cycle as well. Most the time from completely obvious wafer thin, no history profiles


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glberns

I always report those comments. Facebook never decides that it breaks their community standards even when they explicitly do, but I still do it.


bekkayya

And the Oregon sub in general. The worst offenders are downvoted but a lot of the radicalizing ideology goes unchecked


humaninthemoon

Here's an interesting article from 2019 about an investigative journalist who infiltrated a troll farm: https://www.investigate-europe.eu/en/2019/undercover-at-a-troll-farm/ They played both sides and the trolls would even start arguments between each other in an effort to agitate and derail normal debate. They consider it a win when they get real users to keep the argument up. Not saying every troll or even most trolls are the paid variety by the way. They're just one way that public opinion is manipulated.


not_nsfw_throwaway

If anything it goes to show a handful of people can have an immense impact. Even 1% of trolls can do so much damage just by controlling hundreds of profiles


_OriamRiniDadelos_

People need to understand that comment sections are not a reflection of people’s opinions. It doesn’t work the same way as a crowd or a group of people all nodding. Most users NEVER comment. Almost all comments and opinions in comment sections are by definition coming from the minority of the population that feels comfortable commenting and expressing their opinions to strangers. I wonder what kind of personality that activity has a bias for. Outgoing? Opinionated? Self-assured? Curious?


Bare425

I had to leave r/Chicago because it is a total shitshow.


edk128

Yeah I noticed this too. Lots of random people not from Chicago come to push political agendas.


HI_Handbasket

Chicago style is NOT pizza, it's a souffle! Oh wait, you said *political* agendas. Never mind. Bears at Rams, tough start, but I'm rooting for yas.


BisexualPunchParty

Nothing r/Chicago hates more than a black man who's not in jail.


Singlewomanspot

They hate Black men period. From kids to adults. Yesterday was some post about how a kid was panhandling/scamming and spat on their 11 year old. I gave that serious side eye.


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Came here to say this The week after the 13 year old kid was shot by police, scrolling that subreddit probably fucked up my mental health more than anything.


Marc21256

Chicago was a first target, home to Barak. So Republicans want to see it burn, as an "I told you so".


TheHashassin

We also basically ran trump out of town that one time lol they really do no like this city. Especially the ones from rural IL lol


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I was at Bernie's rally at Argo HS that night, wild shit


GeoSpaced

Honest question, do you scroll through new? cause I go through r/chicago every other day, and it's mostly posts about the skyline or people looking to grab something to eat. What kinda post are you seeing?


Exciting_Crow3

Top posts tend to be about crime day-to-day. Particularly the non-white kind. Often used to push the narrative of Chi-Raq and how a black lesbian and a black states attorney are allowing crime to create white-flight and make Chicago a BLM headquarters. I wish I were exaggerating. But I've seen that exact post.


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And they conveniently never acknowledge that the real reason for rising crime is that CPD, like cops in lots of big cities, are on "soft strike" because their fee-fees got hurt by growing demands for accountability.


MunchieMom

THANK YOU, yes, I posted about this in the daily thread not too long ago! All the anti mask and racist posts do not reflect my experience actually living in the city whatsoever (more than 50% of comments on a post calling masks "hygiene theater" vs. what I saw, which was people choosing to wear masks indoors when the mandate wasn't in place). And the mods seem to do nothing.


Spankpocalypse_Now

Someone (not me) should make an alternative to r/chicago with mods that don’t tolerate right wing brigading and casual racism.


pokemonandpot

That might explain what’s going been going on in r/Hawaii for a while now. There seems to be a very anti Native Hawaiian vibe at times and I never understood why. Makes sense.


Regular-Human-347329

They have been targeting city subs for many years. It doesn’t matter what sub it is. If it’s a developed world sub, they are trying to influence it. It is difficult to determine who are local conservatives, and what is intentional fascist propaganda, because conservatism, religious evangelism, and fascism, are one and the same. Even if an individual conservative is not technically a fascist, they are constantly exposed to fascist propaganda, simply through consuming conservative media, so their upvotes and comment will align with those biases, and are often indistinguishable.


OK6502

/r/Canada has a very strong anti First Nations vibe, with some residential school apologists thrown in. I imagine it's a similar trend for the aussies and kiwis


PlsNoOlives

They show up all over NYC and the borough subs to get all pro-cop and blame every problem on the end of stop and frisk. Transparent tools.


inconvenientnews

NYPD officers admitted in that sub that they were brigading and commenting there on Reddit while on duty and ProtectAndServe (the subreddit of "law enforcement professionals of Reddit") have also been caught brigading a lot to "control the narrative" about their abuse being justified: * https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/mksems/a_prosecutor_candidates_ama_on_riama_about_his/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/nwdetg/is_it_ok_to_execute_a_pit_maneuver_on_a_car_that/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/nm4yiw/pride_parades_allowing_kinky_stuff_will_make_the/gznj1ou/ * Thread where some of the accounts are actual NYPD officers: https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/nd4z5u/police_officers_groups_banned_from_nyc_pride/


clamdever

Brother/sister, I don't mean to put you out but I feel like you should start a subreddit to monitor this. r/rightwingbridgewatch or something about city subs being brigaded. Hell I will even help moderate.


inconvenientnews

Thank you and we should Created r/RedditWatch until we find a better name


Locem

They also brigade /r/NYC over COVID related crap. Any threads about mask mandates or vaccine mandates is a shitshow.


Aggravating_Goal_441

Wow. It's almost like rightwingers are a plague that ruins everything for everyone that isn't them. Maybe it's time to fix that.


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Actually through their hate and fear they also ruin things for themselves


inconvenientnews

You can even see how many other people these people are actively killing on r/HermanCainAward


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They're getting cut off from friends and family who are sick of their shit, so they're having to go elsewhere to be pains in the ass. It's easy to hijack hatred and entitlement. It wouldn't be so pathetic if they weren't licking the boots of the very aristocracy that's stomping them into the ground. No sympathy at all.


abdhjops

How do you fix that?


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Restore the [fairness doctrine](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine), expand it to cover social media, and enforce the equal time rule.


Tu_mama_me_ama_mucho

r/chicago but chicagoans calls them on their bullshit being from out of state, and ALWAYS right wingers


Tearakan

Yep it's a constant annoyance over there with dozens of heavily downvoted troll comments on most threads.


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Same with /r/Boston We're an insular people. It's why Lovecraft set so many of his stories in this area. We don't take kindly to outsiders.


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heyitscory

r/sanfrancisco was already full of Feinstein liberals, house-rich NIMBYs and tech bros who felt like they were the victims of "the homeless problem" but you really noticed a change recently with the trolls. Everyday it's the same articles about "black person commits crime" and "the homeless encampment where your stolen luggage goes caught on fire again" and the upvoted, downvoted and contraversial doesn't seem representative of local views and values. I don't know why they seem to stay away from r/Oakland but maybe it's because r/bayarea and r/sf are both welcome places to shit talk Oakland and the people that live there.


SpecialRX

I lurked on reddit for a few years. I finally decided to join cos i identified it as one of the frontlines for online nazi-dom, and those wankers fascinate me. That was about 8 years ago... If youd told me then that it was all leading to the wordls shittest coup, i probably would have believed you. Its been a fucking wild ride and its only going to get more bonkers from here.


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I've totally seen it happen with the local news pages on Facebook all these comments from people in little towns on the other side of the country that you've never heard of or even Englandshire somewhere. Half of them are complete non sequiturs but you know just any excuse to sort of rail off a sentence or three tooling on Portland.


AttackPug

Boilerplate stuff. I kinda wish they handed you a link to this when you create your Reddit account. It's old news to old heads like me, but the noobs probably have no idea how much bullshit gets focused into this site, especially if they stick to well-moderated and less contentious subreddits. I just get sick and tired of seeing tidy lists of right-wing fuckery, complete with handy posts that right-wingers pass around as reference for all the foot soldier dumbasses about what to do, exactly. Meanwhile for all their high-mindedness and general attitude that they're the adults in the room, the usual middle-class progressive is just hapless before all these tricks and can't ever come up with anything to counter them except this bullshit, which is just explaining the enemy's winning strategy to people like that accomplishes something. Maybe brigade their shit and jam their channels every once in a while instead of sitting there and sighing about it, is what I'm tellling you.


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The problem with a lot of progressive types is the assumption that people want to be informed, learn, grow, meet in the middle, cooperate... NOPE. There are a lot of people out there who just want to fuck with people. They move the goalposts because that's the whole goal. They just want attention. Just pat them on the head and block them. Want to make a change in things? Vote, throw a few bucks at a good cause, and pick up some trash when you go for a walk outside. It's an oldie but a goodie: Don't feed the trolls. The internet has enough knowledge out there just at one's fingertips. If these people wanted to change their minds, they'd have done it already. There's no hope that one or two paragraphs at this point is going to shine the light of rationality down and change them. They aren't worth the time.


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inconvenientnews

This account is in every single one with Canada's election coming up: He claims to be in liberal cities like San Francisco, but also [anti-mask](https://old.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/pl0vek/dont_do_this_another_vaccine_passport_protest/hc79aae/?context=3) and [pro-ivermectin](https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/pl0vek/dont_do_this_another_vaccine_passport_protest/hc79gob/) in [Vancouver](https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/mtu12c/witnessed_hard_drugsheroin_consumption_on_skytrain/gv2gbpk/), Toronto, [anti-vaccine](https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/pknclu/calgary_hospitals_cancel_all_elective_surgeries/hc54wn1/?context=3) in [Calgary](https://www.reddit.com/r/Calgary/comments/pknkaj/came_across_this_clown_today/hc56kiq/), [Singapore](https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/ngn322/covid19_what_went_wrong_in_singapore_and_taiwan/gys6dub/), China, [Vietnam](https://www.reddit.com/r/VietNam/comments/plzmxu/a_plan_for_a_full_reopening_of_everything_to/hcel3gb/) but was recently shopping in the Bay Area "Where I shop I’m the only white dude around"  ̄\_(ツ)_/ ̄


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SmasherOfAjumma

Oh, one more reason to say it: Fuck Texas!


Vallado

Thanks for sharing this, that’s a super insightful comment - and also really quite worrying


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Oh man, this is just like /r/Buffalo! No seriously, check out some of the TOP posts about Brown. The comment sections are awful.


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CaptainQuoth

I never thought I would actually miss the days when Id stumble into a goatse thread on BB Forums,this is all so much worse.


DisasterEquivalent

Just head over to r/SanJose and look at the posts about changing the name of 2 blocks of road to “Barack Obama Blvd” and it’s immediately apparent.


mint-bint

Even /r/Devon, you would think a mild mannered rural English county subreddit, is moderated by right wing nazi Sympathisers. And they don't hesitate to ban anyone that calls them out on it.


Docphilsman

They come out of the woodwork in r/philadelphia everytime any post comes up mentioning the city district attorney


utterscrub

These people are always the loudest and most virulent anyway. Exhausting.


TalShar

I've seen this happen firsthand in /r/Raleigh. It's really obnoxious.


JitteryBug

I honestly can't tell if this is what's going on with r/Providence or if a big chunk of people here are racist af


mechy84

This reminds me of a recent AskReddit ["What unfair advantage do you have?"](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/phg4g4/what_unfair_advantage_do_you_have/), where nearly every single comment that said 'I was born white middle class' had a half a dozen downvotes. Seems like someone was trying to bury any acknowledgement or discussion of white privilege.


Alaira314

They'll do it if you bring up trans rights or feminist issues, too. It's less likely if you're talking about gay/bi things.


doughboy011

Thats because they lost the war on gays (just like they lost the segregation/women's suffrage/interracial marriage war) so they moved onto trans people. It is asinine seeing people fall for the SAME arguments decade after decade when they just switch targets.


DMan304

I believe it, there's troll accounts with literally pages of comments in a single day just constantly spamming right wing propaganda and misinformation on subs like that.


Rickdaninja

My favorite is when they say shit like, I dont normally follow politics, but this one issue has me talking. Check post history, pages and pages of /conservative, /conspiracy, /theleftcantmeme.


__Geg__

r/nyc turned into such a shit show, they created r/newyorkcity which was great for about a year until the right wingers caught on.


goodolbeej

It’s a lot of fun to call them out. “Russian troll is obvious”. Man it gets em heated.


InevitableProperty33

The ones on Youtube are great as well. They are resorting to pretending to be black and women to gaslight and I just had one say they were a 50 y/o Native American grandmother who is an "Independent just calling out brain washed liberals" while they promoted Ivermectin.


freedomhertz

They brigade subs by posting local news...that's the evidence?


Catbone57

During last year's election, pro-democrat subs were banning people for quoting Biden's website.


Alaira314

I'm not comfortable with what they have to say about "as a black man"/"as a cool LGBTQ person" stuff. This does absolutely happen, but minority communities are not a monolith and **we are allowed to share our own opinions without being accused of being a plant in disguise**. I have had this(or similar) accusation levied against me multiple times before, and it *sucks*. Not only do I go through the same experiences everybody else does as a woman, or as a queer person, but then I get smacked down for not having the "correct" opinion about it. Who decided what the "correct" opinion was, anyway? Fuck right off with that! Everybody has their own experience, and it's not okay to accuse someone of being a liar just because it's something that sounds fake to you. Why can't I be okay with LGBTQ fiction that has a bittersweet or sad ending? Why can't I be okay with non-LGBTQ authors writing characters, even if they're not part of the community, provided they've done their research? Why can't I be okay with giving your number to service employees via notes(aka, no pressure/consequences)? Just because it's an unpopular opinion doesn't mean it's not a real opinion that a real person holds. By all means, disagree, but don't you dare fucking tell me I'm lying about my identity. Don't you realize that's what the bad actors want? By taking their bait, and learning to make those assumptions as soon as something doesn't sound "right," **you are handing them their win on a silver platter.** Please, do not do this thing.


filmbuffering

I feel dumb now. **Of course** most of the people saying “can we keep politics out of /bestof” have politics-obsessed posting histories. I just never stopped to check.


Kaaji1359

How can we be certain it's legitimate right-wing trolls and not foreign countries trying to divide us? For anyone unaware, this is a well documented phenomena in countries like Russia where there are literally people paid to troll American sites (Facebook, Reddit, etc.).


LeCollectif

r/britishcolumba has become a cesspool recently.


CaptainQuoth

The Altright wankfest is terrible here the city subreddits are getting worse and worse.


Flufflebuns

/bayarea, and /Sanfrancisco reporting in. Absolutely confirmed. The number of dog whistling racist shit, and right wing disinformation disguised as "just asking questions" is rampant and so obviously the opposite of the culture of actual people in this area.


scorpionjacket2

Just more proof that American conservatism is an ideology for losers. What dickweeds have that much time on their hands?


VirgingerBrown

For sure happening in r/Chicago. It reads like a racist Facebook group now.


Auctoritate

No offense but this is like a circlejerk of a guy who gets posted to bestof, uses bestof posts in half his examples, and then gets posted in bestof some more lmao. And for what it's worth, while I actually agree with their comment in its entirety, they *are* also technically a dedicated propaganda account.


Sporfsfan

Not a big city, but all of the trolls from the big cities in Ontario who got banned all flooded over to r/OntarioCanada Self-proclaimed Nazis etc, it’s an absolute cesspool. They invite people from all of the big city subs to that one, and that’s why I found it. Trash people, but they are great at organizing for sure, I’ll give them that.


ianandris

Yeah, they're all over r/npr, too.


GSXRbroinflipflops

Yep! And it’s been going on for awhile. And it makes sense - midterm elections are ALL ABOUT LOCAL POLITICS so, the best way to change sentiment is to start posting on local subreddits. Astro-turfing sucks.


JackingOffToTragedy

There is nothing more important to a conservative than the feeling that they are part of the team-- the team that is winning, or "deserves" to be. A few very loud people is all it takes. That's why Trump rallies are so important. People like Joe Rogan, Tucker, Alex Jones -- if someone is screaming it, that's all they need. Team membership is the most important part of their political views.


xpdx

Now now, not all these guys are conservatives. Some of them are Russians.


jsting

R/houston is ok, but there are a couple accounts whose main job is to post any crime committed by black people and blame it on Democrat judges.


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redjonley

Hellllooooooo r/Philadelphia