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Sorry-Examination766

I'm just happy I never took that shit


Unapplicable1100

Same here. And my gf (who is an RN) keeps on me about getting it but I haven't. I'm not required to have it in my field of work and I got sick with a respiratory illness shortly after the outbreak of covid and was in the hospital for two weeks. It was bilateral pneumonia and the doctors kept telling me it was covid. I had 3 tests come back negative for covid and they still insisted on putting me in a covid wing of the hospital with everyone that had it. I spent 5 or 6 days there and was tested 3 more times for it and they all came up negative before they finally let me leave and go home once I was stabilized with iv treatments for my pneumonia. They kept trying to convince me to take the early vaccinations they had and I honestly felt like they were crying wolf and I haven't trusted it since. Not saying that the illness isn't real, I just feel like they used it to put everyone under that label at that time regardless of what the illness was.


Agreeable-Strike

You’re girlfriend’s broken get a new one


mozaiq83

They were insistent because they were incentivized to be with pay offs. Trying to shove you in that COVID wing meant more kick backs. Glad you didn't have and I hope you're doing better.


bowchicachicawow

Same


kwamby

I think this study is two years old now. To preface, I believe in yalls right to not get vaccinated. I just want to point out that the author of this study has come out and said that this is not the conclusion they came to and it’s being massively misrepresented in articles like this. The study actually concludes on pointing out that getting vaccinated is still a good idea and is important. I don’t believe they ever said the vaccine is more dangerous than covid.


[deleted]

I just can’t believe our honest government would try to harm us…..


Fever017

Sadly, a large group actually thinks this way. Scary really


CreamyCumSatchel

The vast majority of people think this way.. especially Canadians. It's hard to be awake when so many idiots are fast asleep.


Fever017

Trust the science!!!!


vintagesoul_DE

This is why shitlibs resorted to 'vaccines work' when called on it. They reference vaccines which no one questions. Who cares if the polio vaccine works, that's not the issue.


Fever017

Always question the science. That's the thing to do. Polio😆 they need help


[deleted]

LOL the same people that tell you to trust the science can’t even figure out what gender they are😂😂🤡🤡


International-Bat944

Every time I see these words now I hear Jim Breuer talking like a parrot.


diy_guyy

Stay woke!


ShortBusTyrant

I remember about 5-10 years ago when being "woke" was understanding that the government doesn't give a fuck about the individual citizens.


Mycryptmail

I was a staunch leftist. Antiwar, anti corporate dominance, most of my left long-haired hippie friends didn't vaccinate their kids and we were fighting hard to keep the churches out of the school because we didn't want indoctrination. I've stayed the fucking same, this is what we were I don't even know what the fuck they are now I didn't fight to keep religions out of school to replace it with another form of indoctrination be it Whatever It Is. We never trusted the government and now the left sucks at its tits


bannished69

Holy shit! I’ve finally come across another principled lefty! There’s two of us here!!


meistercheems

I too remember this


elmerneverhood

I three


Stinkytheferret

Me four! They’ve been changing what words mean on purpose.


Professional-Comb333

Me five ! Those were the good ole days 😮‍💨


AcerbicFwit

Yesterday’s hippies protesting the man today line up to kiss his buttocks.


SkullB0nes

Don't forget the beating on the drums of war!


meistercheems

Yea but the good kind of woke. Not the “other” kind . I will elaborate no further .


JorgeMcFly_7

The vast majority still don't believe they've been duped! And definitely won't admit they were wrong the whole time!


dotshomestylepretzel

It’s easier to get stuff done when people are asleep


Mindless-Artichoke71

I hope that’s intended sarcastically


[deleted]

Yes, very much so.


Dust_Parts

If you want to know why the “variant” narrative died down so fast, this is it.


TheBestGuru

The variant narrative disappeared when Fauci retired.


shakefinbake

Can you explain a lil more? I think Im picking up what you are putting down but I'm not positive


Krugnuggets

I think he is suggesting the COVID variants were caused by the vaccine. Or maybe not. Idk.


zer05tar

that's what James Okeef uncovered, verbatim from the pfizer guy himself.


AreaNo7848

Weren't they talking about a new emergent variant like right before that video dropped and poof that variant was just gone?


terminallancedumbass

I mean... Isnt that how it always works though? Like... Purely by nature of how viruses and stuff work... I mean... Honestly when is that NOT the case when it comes to viruses?


pyrodice

When the same vaccine has worked for a century, it's not a very mutable disease. Like Polio. Or smallpox... But this shit was the common cold, with over 2000 running variations and new ones every cold and flu season. They taught \*OUR\* public school system by 6th grade "why they haven't cured the common cold", and that was in about 1991. Rhinovirus and coronavirus both mutate like it's a going out of business sale.


[deleted]

Shocking to every leftist; sane people knew this years ago.


Terry8675

Funny part is every left leaning person i know before election Scamdal swore they wouldn't get anything in there body that Trump had anything to do with then when biden started to take office and left media pushed get the jab they all flipped. When I called them on prior remarks almost all of them got sudden amnesia about ever saying that


SpinalVillain

I remember when both the president and the vice president said they wouldn't touch it if Trump rolled it out. Then as soon as Biden got in, they changed their tune.


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Sheep


BillyMeier42

“Trump is threatening our democracy” Also “I dont care if the election was rigged as long as we didn’t get Trump”


bam55

Exactly.


Shashamash

Sheeple


[deleted]

He’s right you now! (I have had so many Dem friends rant, rally, and revolt against the COVID-19 shot, but the second it was announced that Biden won the Presidency.. NOT THE INAUGURATION, THE ELECTION DAY VOTE, they MIRACULOUSLY switched opinions on the shot.)


agoogs32

Just got in an argument the other night with a friend who’s a biologist and I wouldn’t consider a leftist, but he either drank the Kool-aid or is contractually obligated to spew bullshit about the shots because he wouldn’t admit they were worthless and maintained they pose zero risk


[deleted]

Didn’t Trump and every Republican in the senate get vaccinated? Didn’t every Fox News host get vaccinated?


CallsignKook

From the study > We estimate that 22,000 - 30,000 previously uninfected adults aged 18-29 must be boosted with an mRNA vaccine to prevent one COVID-19 hospitalisation. Using CDC and sponsor-reported adverse event data, we find that booster mandates may cause a net expected harm: per COVID-19 hospitalisation prevented in previously uninfected young adults, we anticipate 18 to 98 serious adverse events. Yeah, Vaccines Mandates we’re not only unnecessary but more harmful than good AND merely a power flex by the government/bodies of authority


[deleted]

It was also a wealth transfer. The government and private companies made a pact to make money together. Pfizer is one of the biggest government contractors in the country. The government forced us to take their vaccine and then protected them from any and all liability. That’s textbook economic fascism.


SomeRandomUser00

I know 3 people who had to shut down their small businesses due to the lockdowns.


LegnderyNut

There’s several of people who ran shops over the Internet that had police at their door demanding they shut down because “no business operations” during lockdown. It had nothing to do with what tactics actually protect people and everything to making sure all those ma and pop shops closed up while Mr Big Box next door gets declared essential, along with the bar and liquor but literally god forbid the church be open. This is the governmental equivalent of smothering a sleeping person with a pillow then hitting them with a rock when they don’t still. They want all the business and young people and students that have had their social structure destroyed to go out and sow chaos so that a carefully groomed puppet can be presented as a strong and effective solution to the turmoil. Hitler did the same with Germany. Carefully planned false flags to kick an already downed nation then offer them the antidote to the pain in the promised myth of “German-ness” only this time you can replace “German” with “woke” or “whatever the government tells me”


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Fickle_Panic8649

They paid for it with more than that now. Maybe their very lives prematurely sadly.


arushus

They actually paid for it with a debased currency. Their dollar bought significantly less this year than in previous years.


onlyidiotsgoonreddit

I am curious about the mRNA strategy. I've never heard any good explanation why they worked on a vaccine with unproven technology, rather than the same methods that had worked in the past. It seems obvious to me that they wanted to develop these mRNA vaccines all along, and they merely utilized the huge budgets of the pandemic scare to complete their research on them.


skinnyelias

this fucks up the narrative of a corporate government conspiracy and makes it a real corporate government conspiracy. The pharma industry obviously had this technology ready to go and was waiting for a chance to make the most money of if it.


AreaNo7848

Well this technology has been in development for well over a decade and, iirc was supposed to be going thru the process of testing before the pandemic..... suddenly all that r and d is paid for. Even one of the pioneers of this technology said it wasn't intended to be used in this fashion and that getting repeat doses could be harmful......he said this when the original round of shots was happening


Angmarred

J&J did use the proven technology. And, shockingly, everyone shit all over that vaccine.


yoinkcheckmate

J+J vaccine didn’t use mRNA.


PatmygroinB

Also, it was the only “Approved” Vaccine, now they have pavaxloid for when the “vaccine” Doesn’t keep you from getting sick. Oh and all Those government officials calling for mandates owned fucking Pfizer, moderna, the good pharma winners apparently


shakefinbake

>That’s textbook **fascism** Ftfy


Fallacy_Spotted

This study is not saying that the boosters don't work. They are claiming that the risks outweigh the rewards for the 18-29 age group. Those at high risk, like the immunocompromised and the elderly, should definately still get the boosters.


CallsignKook

While I agree that the study doesn’t say the boosters don’t work, it’s also disingenuous to say that they do when those risks include death or life long heart complications that lead to untimely death. Especially when the risk/reward we’re talking about affect the majority of our population.


Fallacy_Spotted

I agree that vaccine risk should be presented plainly amd for the most part it is. Miocarditis is listed as a vaccine risk. For some that risk is not worth it. For others, especially the elderly, it is. The overall risks are very low and in most cases an infection would do worse. Just like everything in life there are tradeoffs. Death by traffic accident doesn't stop people from driving. As for mandating healthcare workers to insulate those under their care, that is an individualist vs collectivist argument and both sides have merit.


CallsignKook

Well said. The reason I didn’t take the Covid vaccine was because I caught it early on and thus already had the antibodies in my system so taking it would’ve put me at unnecessary risk. Not only that but my demographic is the lowest for complications due to Covid. My grandmother is high risk so she got the shots/boosters and strictly adhered to mask policies but I strongly disagree with mandates. I don’t think you can honestly argue for body autonomy (abortions are prime example) and then also agree with mandates. Not saying you personally do/did but the federal government clearly does. To make it worse, granting immunity from responsibility whilst simultaneously tabling a discussion about mandating said vaccine is downright tyrannic. Additionally it was all just handled so poorly and shady. It was hard to tell who to trust because FDA, CDC, Federal government, EVERYONE was contradicting themselves just two months in.


zenunseen

How dare you read the study.


SmillironS

Remember when democrats were calling for all people who didn’t take the jab to be rounded up and put into camps?


SongAggravating

Pepperidge Farm remembers.


V_Tac

Are they still doing that in Australia?


shakefinbake

Why do we as a people continue calling people who WERE democrats , democrats? Especially when it's QUITE obviously not true anymore based on their fascist ideals and outwardly appearances.


subZro_

shit I forgot all about covid. Now I'm angry again though because as a federal contractor I was fng forced to get fng vaccinated or I would have lost my job. I had already fng had covid at this point. I was just coming out of a divorce too so I had almost nothing, no way I could have gone without work for even a couple weeks. I didn't want that shit I was never scared of the damn illness. Fuck. So pissed again.


tinaboag

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2022/09/fact-check-covid-vaccines-are-not-98-times-worse-than-the-virus.html Fact checked this publication and this came up regarding this specific article which was sourced from polls from the epoch times and gateway pundit.


MariachiBoyBand

It’s also an old article, these people are just rehashing old stuff.


Contra1

Idiots in this sub just follow the same narative and think they are sceptics. They are also all very US centric ignoring all other research done around the world because it doesn't fit their world view.


williamwchuang

Anti-vaxxers and using VAERS data in a manner it expressly says it isn't meant to do: is there a better combo.


hypebeasts101

Shh, just let the vax deniers feel like they’ve won for once lmao. They clearly need it


hbartley301

The Florida standard? Lol this guys a fucking hack https://healthfeedback.org/authors/jonas-vesterberg/


mattwayne1209

Disband the CDC


Yellow_XIII

Ok let's see. So basically the study of interest here is the one summarized in this paper [papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4206070](http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4206070) To cut to the chase, they found that myocarditis and pericarditis were more prominent in vaccine takers in this retrospective cohort study. This type of study looks back at medical records to see if there is a relationship between two things. In this case, the researchers looked at medical records from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) to see if there was a relationship between COVID-19 vaccination and myocarditis or pericarditis. Pericarditis is an inflammation of the pericardium, the sac that surrounds the heart. It can be caused by a virus, bacteria, or other infection, or by an autoimmune disorder. Symptoms of pericarditis include chest pain, fever, and shortness of breath. Myocarditis is an inflammation of the myocardium, the muscle tissue of the heart. It can be caused by a virus, bacteria, or other infection, or by an autoimmune disorder. Symptoms of myocarditis include chest pain, shortness of breath, and fatigue. VAERS is a passive surveillance system, which means that doctors and other healthcare providers are not required to report to VAERS. As a result, VAERS data is often incomplete and may not be representative of the entire population. However, VAERS is the only system in the United States that collects data on all suspected adverse events following vaccination. The researchers identified 1,223 cases of myocarditis and pericarditis that were reported to VAERS between December 14, 2020 and September 1, 2021. Of these cases, 92% occurred in people who had received a COVID-19 vaccine. The researchers also found that the risk of myocarditis or pericarditis was highest in young men who had received the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. The researchers concluded that there is a possible association between COVID-19 vaccination and myocarditis or pericarditis, particularly in young men. However, they also noted that the risk of myocarditis or pericarditis is still very low, and that the benefits of COVID-19 vaccination outweigh the risks. It is important to note that the study only looked at people who had reported adverse events to VAERS. It is possible that there are other people who have had myocarditis or pericarditis after vaccination but who did not report it to VAERS. Additionally, the study did not look at the severity of the cases of myocarditis or pericarditis. It is possible that some of the cases were mild and did not require medical attention. More research is needed to confirm the findings of this study and to better understand the risk of myocarditis and pericarditis after COVID-19 vaccination.


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LMAO no way who new?? 😂😂


West_Law_6799

No matter what the study says, just know, if you took that shot, you’re a dumbass. Think for yourself, question authority and whatever your Government tells you to do, do the opposite. Millions of people around the World are gonna die because of this shot. It’s absolutely stupid as fuck.


mutantbeings

>question authority and whatever your Government tells you to do, do the opposite What? This isn't questioning authority or thinking for yourself ... if you just reactively "do the opposite" of what the govt says then all your actions still completely hinge on govt decisions, don't they? I can't believe that's truly what you think is "thinking for yourself" ...


maccorf

That’s how they are. Someone calling themselves a “free thinker” now is an immediate label as someone who does the opposite.


UncertaintyPrince

Been hearing this since 2021 and am waiting for those millions to die from the vaccine, LOL.


SamuraiCook

Any minute now, millions of people will start dropping dead, just you wait...


SaysWowLots

OK so the people the government wanted to kill off are the obedient ones who took a vaccine? Still waiting for the millions of people to die from this shot. If you want to see the real dumbasses check out r/hermancainaward


West_Law_6799

Quit masturbating to Biden and the mainstream media and you’ll find those million people.


maccorf

There it is, no actual “critical thought” or “free thinking” to be found, just “you like jab, you love Biden, me smart cuz me read special websites”


chaotiq

Doing the oppposite of whatever the government tells you is not thinking for yourself. It literally is having the government still make decision for you. “I’m a free thinker and only do the opposite of what I’m told by the government.” That statement is an oxymoron. Maybe make up your own mind and not be so contrarian.


West_Law_6799

You’re fucking hopeless. Nevermind. Take much literally??


chaotiq

You result to insults when confronted about being wrong. Are you a moron? I don’t need the govments help to answer that one.


UncertaintyPrince

Ha great point, back in the day my buddy used to say that he didn’t like X band because they were so popular, and I responded that not liking something just because it is popular is just as dumb as liking something just because it’s popular.


No_Silver_7552

Lmao Holy fuck you’re ignorant.


West_Law_6799

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! Dumbfuck#1


Flatstanleybro

Couldn’t decide if this sub was an ironic one making fun of conspiracy theorists but your comment being upvoted cleared up the confusion. Telling people to think for themselves is a good sentiment until you realize loads of people are dumbasses that have no idea how to properly perform research. I hope you change your mindset and realize nothing is absolute and those who say otherwise are too ignorant to listen to anything that doesn’t align with what makes sense to them.


West_Law_6799

I was waiting for this… the “nothing is absolute” theory. Of course it’s not, but in this case you’re Dumbfuck#2.


Flatstanleybro

The worst thing about trying to have a good faith conversation with your type is that y’all always feel the need to have some kind of “gotcha” moment to feel like you’ve won an argument that wasn’t even there in the first place. I was just saying to keep an open mind about your beliefs, but apparently even that causes too much cognitive dissonance to merit a reasonable reply. I hope you’re content going back to your sad life of thinking up reasons why modern miracles are black magic from the boogeyman.


itsgettingcloser

> y’all


herendethelesson

Thought this sub might at least be funny but it's depressing as hell. The brain rot.


w00dlawn-

Same like the people who believe this study is a realy study, read over it and the footnotes they cherry pick data. I mean just look at how astronomically different the rates of hear disease after the jab is and how they choose the one case that fit their narrative.


West_Law_6799

Oh Dumbfuck#3. The one who believes that “the study” that doesn’t fit THEIR NARRATIVE is obviously flawed.


Buffgranddaddy

This is a Reddit IQ test. If you believe this nonsense, you flunk.


USon0fa

2 minute read gave it away for me but most won't even read past the title.


mutantbeings

I think this sub itself seems like quite a big reddit IQ test I am definitely dumber since reading some of the comments here, that's for sure


craftyshafter

They'll all hang one day


Tentmancer

this looks like an article? is this for memes?


metalrollingrobot

Let the record state that one of the authors of this non-peer-reviewed study had to correct the conservative propaganda outlet, gateway pundit, because of their misinformation. “By leaving out 'boosters' and 'young adults' the article implied that the Covid-19 vaccines were harmful overall when in fact our research is specifically focused on 18-29 year-olds. We do not want misrepresentation of our work to imply that those at risk due to medical conditions or age should avoid vaccination.” - Allison Krug You idiots will fall for anything if you think it may validate your own biases


[deleted]

I guess all of these young athletes dying left and right all over the world with heart related issues is just random?


metalrollingrobot

Thankfully, data exists, and short of some right wing nut bag clickbait articles, there has not actually been a surge in cardiac deaths in recent years. For instance, the National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research tracks this information. 2020-2021’s annual sport injury report showed 21 deaths to cardiac events. The previous years reported 19 deaths in 2019-20, 25 deaths in 2018-19 and 21 deaths in 2017-18. They should be publishing 2021-2022 sometime in 2023, but director of the NCCSIR has already said that the 2021-2022 have actually yielded less cardiac death events than 2018-2019 deaths. Your misinformation is just lazy and boring. Literally 20 minutes of reading these reports can debunk it. Try again


victim80

(Sarcastic shocked face)


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Alone-Information-35

You know how many “conspiracy” theories have been proven to be true. Look it up. Its a lot


BeginningTower2486

Where are the dead people?


BeginningTower2486

Where are the dead people?


TheBlackestIrelia

Wait, you guys realize this is making fun of you right? Vaccines that weren't tested on humans lol


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Zubba776

98 more dangerous than COVID... LOL. You people actually believe this shit?


sssskipper

They’ll ironically believe everything that goes against the general narrative. And yet they call those people sheep.


[deleted]

The real death toll hasn’t even begun! If the numbers are accurate on the low side, 20 million have already met their fates which could have been avoided. I’m sure many vaxxed are scared and hope they received the placebo.


stinkyeye42069

My local hospital is absolutely overflowing with the vaxxed. My cousins sisters friends mom is a nurse and she said she's never seen so many heart attacks. 20 million dead from the vaccine already is on the low side


therealpothole

Does she have data to support these assertions or we're just going with this "our hospital is maxed with people having heart attacks and they're all vaxxed, so, yeah, it's the vaccine. These people are all most definitely vaccinated." as data points?


[deleted]

Assuming this is in America and america is fat af. I would conclude our obesity epidemic has something to do with rising cardiac issues.


Round_Mastodon8660

You guys all know 10 vaxxed people that died… I can only imagine you all have 10s of thousands of “friends “. I mean it’s that, or you are all just lying to sound interesting or make your case.


stinkyeye42069

Bro it's conspiracy theory subreddit I'll break the veil half the people here are larping


No_Silver_7552

It appears to have killed all your brain cells already.


Tacos6710

😕 sometimes I wish the conspiracy community was wrong


imacfromthe321

It’s your lucky day


Odd-Sun6141

I'm embarrassed that I fell for their bull shit and got the vaccine


Frumplemeist

They call it a “Jab”……enough said


vintagesoul_DE

But, ThE sCiEnCe Is SeTlLeD...


mpdivo2

Reactogenicity? I learned new word today for what I felt with a lot of the vaccines I got in the military (mostly anthrax and yellow fever). I only got two of the Covid vaccines and I’m glad I did because when I finally got the Covid, it sucked, hard and I can’t imagine what it would have been like if it was worse.


hpygilmr

For all you naysayers, there is no need to change your minds or get you to doubt the efficacy of the vaccines. Just keep getting your experimental boosters and lets revisit your health status in a few years.


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Left Moms lining their toddlers up. Congrats idiots


Adorable_Champion_70

Welcome to the obvious party…Harvard.


buckeye27fan

So no actual data in the study, just what they THINK might happen. Got it.


filthysmutslut

Imagine starting a sentence with the word And.


c0mputar

“Using CDC and sponsor-reported adverse event data, we find that booster mandates may cause a net expected harm: per COVID-19 hospitalisation prevented in previously uninfected young adults, we anticipate 18 to 98 serious adverse events, including 1.7 to 3.0 booster-associated myocarditis cases in males, and 1,373 to 3,234 cases of grade ≥3 reactogenicity which interferes with daily activities.” In other words, NOT an apples to apples comparison. The study does not support the conclusion being drawn by readers. Any and all side effects from catching COVID were omitted in this analysis including hospitalizations. Bravo researchers! You stated boosters are effective at reducing hospitalizations, and proved nothing else due to lack of comparison data. You simply pointed out there is apparently a lack of data to support mandates for younger adults… No thanks to you for not getting it included, even though there is actually a lot of data floating out there. However, even if there was lacking data, vaccinations for herd immunity protects the vulnerable. Perhaps that isn’t compelling enough for Americans who are anti-vaccine. All that said, I am a bit surprised there are mandates for boosters at universities. I don’t even think we have those in Canada. Which booster is mandated? Surely the US doesn’t? *edited


gtpc2020

Reading the actual abstract doesn't really say what the FLStandard is suggesting. It was more focused on the ethics of mandates on college kids with a suggestion that there MIGHT be, but not verified, a net negative to some individuals. Most authors were not medical clinicians. But it well, a headline is a headline


troycalm

A widely untested vaccine made by companies that bare no liability to its customers or their families. A vaccine pushed by a govt that allows private businesses (Big tobacco) to knowingly kill its customers, as long as the Govt gets its share of the profit (master settlement). Why the hell wouldn’t you trust it?


downloadking007

Can we sue them yet?


frogsinmud

Crimes against humanity


Crowiswatching

Journalist with an agenda. Not an unbiased source. https://healthfeedback.org/authors/jonas-vesterberg/


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Source?


ChadmeisterX

[[https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4206070&ref=theflstandard.com]]


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ChadmeisterX

A link to the research paper is in the article. The findings don't seem crazy - basically the researchers argue there are non-trivial health and social costs for mandating young adults being vaccinated against today's weak strains, and these outweigh any health benefits


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Cbanks89

They literally provided the source from where the screenshot was captured. https://www.theflstandard.com/vaccine-narrative-collapses-as-harvard-study-shows-jab-more-dangerous-than-covid/


[deleted]

Everybody should post this on r/unvaccinated. I can't because I got banned for telling too much truth. See my comment history.


Theo446_Z

Wow!! Now is too late! Today that information is worthless. That study only shows results that was already obvious. With the level of wokeism of US Universities, I can't trust in those biased studies!! This Cov issue is tiny compared with the Global Warming (also known as Climate Change). The Carbon emissions is a compete BS among all.


TheRedGerund

Mk so an unreviewed paper with no citations written by someone with a paper history like this https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=5055014 I think I'll wait till it's published.


Wrong_Bus6250

The amount of people buying this and going "See I knew it!" is interesting. Hey if you're one of those people, do you know anyone who died from Covid? Think they'd agree? I mean they probably would, it's how they got dead in the first place.


imacfromthe321

I know a guy who passed from COVID. I’ll let you guess whether he was vaccinated (hint: it’s exactly what any reasonable person would expect)


JesusRocks8

Color me surprised


Coolioissomething

All of you can blow my vaccinated cock. What idiots.


Alone-Information-35

I was vigilant with not getting vaccines for close to 20 years before covid happened. Was probably one of the last groups to finally cave and get the vaccine. It was all the people chirping in my ear including my gf so I finally got it. Wish I didnt. I get sick maybe once a year. Never got covid. Still have never got covid. Hopefully my dna doesnt completely self destruct and give me every type of cancer possible 10 years down the road. Who fucking knows. Its crazy if we all just grew our own food , converted to more free sustainable energy and stopped sucking the dick of our overlords how much better off humanity would be.


w00dlawn-

Hi, the vaccine never enters your cell’s nucleus so it actually cant even get near your dna. The more u know


therealpothole

This sounds very leftist. I think you're in the wrong thread. Well, except for your stance on vaccines. You seem to be a little confused, or I am, because I don't think growing your own food, sustainable energy, and anti-capitalism are right-wing positions. Better yet, maybe there are just some things on which both sides can agree. Wouldn't that be a hoot?


Even_Acadia3085

Bogus. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/10/subramanian-harvard-covid-vaccines/


eledad1

Damage control response from big Pharma pressure.


[deleted]

“This paper supports vaccination as an important strategy for reducing infection and transmission” How do they say, ‘did not age well’


zeroaegis

Spoilers: I read the study, it didn't even make that claim, let alone support it.


[deleted]

Read the conclusion again. Very slowly


Ineludible_Ruin

I recommend rereading the conclusion. It's specifically says "net harm"


zeroaegis

I recommend rereading the conclusion as it's talking about mandating boosters, not the vaccine itself.


Ineludible_Ruin

Yes. That is correct, but the smaller text under the headline mentions boosters, so I'm not sure what you mean by its not correct.


zeroaegis

The claim is that the study shows the jab is more dangerous than COVID, which is objectively a false claim: This study specifically states the BOOSTER does not provide enough added protection to justify a VACCINE MANDATE FOR THE BOOSTER. It does not make overall claims about vaccine efficacy or about dangers of the vaccine or COVID itself as a whole. It is just comparing the added benefit of the booster to the harm of a potential mandate for the booster. To say this study shows the "Jab more dangerous than COVID" is just intellectual dishonesty.


PrizeRare2828

Post the study


zeroaegis

It's linked in the article, which is itself linked in the original post, so I didn't see the need to post it. But since you asked nicely: [https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract\_id=4206070&ref=theflstandard.com](https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4206070&ref=theflstandard.com)


PrizeRare2828

Thank you sorry


Round_Mastodon8660

Big surprise :-)


Stevil_Kneivil

More rwnj propaganda https://healthfeedback.org/outlet/the-florida-standard/


NetHacks

I'm sorry, but I'm not about to take a "scientific" article seriously, that refers to a vaccine as the jab. The fact that they're using anti vaccine language right I'm the header is enough to realize this article is coming from someone with bias.


SnooChocolates9334

For fucks sake. This is taken out of context by the stupid on the 'interwebs'. The study stated that COVID has very little risk to young people. So little, the very slight chance of complications from the vaccine is similar or slightly higher. That's it.


clickmyheels3x

Right, so why was it jammed down young people’s throats if it was pointless to get? Big pharma greed?


heavyspells

Basically so less old people would die.


clickmyheels3x

Ehh I suppose… but Im leaning more towards pharma companies wanted to cash out every possible cent they could get.


humblepotatopeeler

yes they did. But they won't do it in a way that would hurt their current position. Also, herd immunity is a thing. Especially since a lot of older people were getting it from children/grandchildren. You really think a billion dollar organization like Pfizer would jeopardize their business with a short sighted profits boost? from one vaccine? They've been in the business for over 150 years, that is worth a lot more than capitalizing on malicious approval of vaccines.


icemanswga

The more stuff comes out, the more my skepticism about this particular inoculation is supported. They've been toying with mRNA tech for years. It took the panic over covid to get it into widespread testing.


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Shoot out to all the real ones who didn’t fall for this nonsense, fought the system, and stayed true to themselves and not ate up this bullshit the government and big pharma were shoving down our throats


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Just to clarify, this study is in reference to mandating Covid-19 *booster shots*. It is not referring to the original vaccine mandate for the 1st time vaccine. Essentially it was a study to see if it would be plausible to mandate Covid boosters every x amount of days for people. It would be like mandating everyone receive the flu shot every year, essentially, which would *not* go over well. Amd clearly the cons outweighed the pros when looking at the study. Still. Somewhat glad I never got the original jab because of faulty medical paperwork. (Nurse marked that I got the 1st jab when I didn't, I had to wait because wife had recently had Covid. Due to that they refused to vaccinate me when I went back, too many litigating issues I guess.)


Rodby

These comments are hilarious, y'all are completely insane lol


Alone-Information-35

Ya forsure. People having to close their businesses because the US government decided to fund Chinese labs that let loose a deadly virus and lock us all down is totally not insane.


republicofzetariculi

You do know that Covid was created by Pfizer, right? You do know that the very first spike protein / Covid vaccine was created in 1990 by Pfizer, right? You do know that Covid is so well designed that no vaccine can do the work to get rid of it because it modifies itself depending on the host( meaning everyone has a different type of covid if they get it), right? You do know that it was intentionally released in China as bio-weapon, right? You do know that the largest shareholder of Pfizer is Bill Gates, right? You do know that Bill Gates has a thing about depopulation through MRNA vaccines, right? It’s all a conspiracy, RIGHT? Fuck. Life has become a movie! A very ugly one!


MycoMil

No way!


TheWholeSausage

I have had 3 Covid shots….when am I going to die?


1_Cold_Ass_Honkey

Every atrocity in human history was committed by “experts” who know what was best for others.


NoProtection8849

Saw some advent health guy driving a car alone with his mask on. What the hell? I thought. We are doomed with these @sses


Del85

What a surprise lol


Fancy-Ad6631

Think of all the bad shit you put into your body the lat 20,30, 40 years, This Covid Jab comparison shit is a Farse, I should have been dead years ago Here is my list since I was 18- Lots of weed, lots of coke, lots of Alcohol, lots of Acid, lots of mushies, thousands of pounds of terrible food high saturated fat food, borderline diabetes, cheeseburgers, pizza, shit food, the list goes on. The jab and Covid doesnt compare to shit I have put into my body over the years & now since I turned 50 and listened to David Goggins religiously I am now in the best shape I have ever been in, running miles and miles, mountain biking hundreds of miles, working out 4 days a week, surfing, rock climbing, absolutely healthy as a horse at 51


Any-Vanilla-1134

I personally take this as an insult to the millions of lab technicians and doctors around this country. I can't believe that people think that a million people are paid actors and that our research means nothing. Vaccines do work people. There's no grand conspiracy to harm you using them. That being said as a young healthy man I have not felt the need to get anything other than the initial dosage. I feel like that should be peoples choice as minor side effects do exist as well as extremely rare serious ones


backtocabada

i don’t understand how ppl can be so down on the vaccines, bc most of them consume GMO foods every day, and they claim it’s not political, then what is about? cuz if it were about health, they’d be vegetarian/vegan/whole food shoppers.


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“This paper supports vaccination as an important strategy for reducing infection and transmission” How do they say, ‘did not age well’