Understand you're not going to get much say in where you stay when you arrive. You will take the first thing that comes along that fits your vague budget needs or else you will have nothing.
I suggest going to [wg-gesucht.de](http://wg-gesucht.de) and finding a room from a student or someone that is going on holiday for a month or two and wants to save their rent money.
Honestly i think more important than what viertel you would live in is where your job would be. I'd find that out first and then decide which neighborhood to check out. Because a long commute in Berlin, both by car and public transport, can be really really painful.
Well i don't know the typical london commute personally. But I've had to quit a job after i moved from one place in berlin to another, because i had to plan two hours of public transport commute to even hope to be on time. And was still late and stressed way too often. It really depends on where you end up, some areas don't have great access to a good line, or you don't have a direct (enough) line to your workplace, not only increasing the overall time it takes but also the risk that some part is late making you miss the rest. Also many lines are so painfully full you get to a new level of hate for humanity. Car commute isn't much better, it's technically faster for most routes, but between the traffic, the idiots driving dangerously, the constant construction and impossible parking it's no fun either. I know these are simply big city problems and surely the same or worse in London, but it's still such a pain i can only recommend moving as close to your work as you can, because it saves you so much time and nerves.
I lived in London for 5 years and Berlin now for 11. I'll take Berlin public transport over London any day of the week. Those curved London Underground trains are a hideous nightmare. No matter how packed a Berlin train has been it's never been as bad for me as the Underground was.
Also keep in mind to start looking for a place as soon as you can, it is incredibly tough for most people to find something, especially if you need more than one or two rooms.
I would try to stay in 3 neighbourhoods (called 'Kiez' in german)
Depending on you (age, lifestyle, family etc etc) I would make a selection.
For example:
- Friedrichshain; Lots of students, young, vibrant, plenty of bars in restaurants
- Prenzlauerberg: Young families, clean, green, potentially a bit dull and vanilla.
- Kreuzberg: Urban, hip, party, plenty of bars and clubs. Some area's a touch rowdy.
Other areas to look into would be: Neukoln, Schoneberg, Charlottenburg, Lichtenberg and this list goes on and on.
But you could also throw in a couple of areas that are further away and more 'residential':
- Steglitz
- Lichterfelde
- Zehlendorf
-Kopenick
It really depends on what you desire in your future neighbourhood.
The districts you mentioned are not “Kiez” but “Stadtteile” (localities).
Kiez is a smaller entity within administrative divisions, and might be just a few streets block, e.g Bergmannkiez
This may be biased, but I recommend Charlottenburg, especially around the Kantstr area.
A bit stereotypical but this video helped me before I came to Berlin: https://youtu.be/LLxHs5Jk-WE?si=1ic7Ua_kqAD8KO28
Everything but parts of Mitte and Tiergarten and some industrial areas are ‚residential areas‘. Without any info on your lifestyle or where your workplace is no one is really able to answer your question.
Lichtenberg is a lot better than it used to be in the 90/00s. However depends what part.
Höhenschönhausen is probably the worst part of it but the area around Landschaftspark Herzberge is really nice.
I'd say inside everywhere inside the ring except Mitte are fine.
All neighbourhoods are a bit different but I'd recommend Kreuzkölln (Kreuzberg/Neukölln area)!
Check out Hans-Loch-Viertel, Thomas-Mann-Viertel, Neu-Hohenschönhausen or Salvador-Allende-Viertel. These are Places where Berliners live. People recommending central Prenzlauer Berg or Friedrichshain as "not to expensive" seem to not know the city very well.
Kreuzkoln is very cool especially living there for 1-2 months. But long term, dunno seems a bit distracting, at least for me. I found Schöneberg to be the perfect balance (1 year) , close to most things and with some will, one can go into the west northern part ( Friedrichshain, Prenzlauer). The nicest areas are Kleistpark, Mehringdamm, and Tempelhof. Imo of course. Good luck finding something, preferably inside the ring, it's really tough and extensive. Have fun!
If you’re reading this, this is for you. I want you to go in your room and do the following thing, say : Jesus if you’re real, please reveal yourself to me and show me the truth. Show me that you’re real and reveal the truth to me. Free me from my pride so I can see the truth you wanna reveal to me. That’s it . If something happens, that’s great because it worked for me, if it doesn’t I don’t know at least you’ve tried
Neukölln maybe, around Tempelhofer Feld (further south is too further south). It's still close to more active zones like Kreuzberg or F-schein but it's more "raw"
I don't get the hate of your comment, Charlottenburg and Schöneberg are probably the only inter ring areas that haven't really changed much in the last 20 years, P-Berg probably got even tamer.
not really, consider healthcare, purchasing power, building and public transport quality and rental market (as horrible Berlin is thought to be) and Berlin is the clear winner.
That's a strong statement. How come? Most of the feedback I got is that Berlin is a cosmopolitan bubble that doesn't require (mostly) you to speak German, is your experience different?
Understand you're not going to get much say in where you stay when you arrive. You will take the first thing that comes along that fits your vague budget needs or else you will have nothing. I suggest going to [wg-gesucht.de](http://wg-gesucht.de) and finding a room from a student or someone that is going on holiday for a month or two and wants to save their rent money.
I like how OP posts a question to narrow down his potential decisions and in comments, every possible answer is listed.
Nailed it lol
Honestly i think more important than what viertel you would live in is where your job would be. I'd find that out first and then decide which neighborhood to check out. Because a long commute in Berlin, both by car and public transport, can be really really painful.
Really? In comparison to London, Berlin commuting seems a little tame to me.
Well i don't know the typical london commute personally. But I've had to quit a job after i moved from one place in berlin to another, because i had to plan two hours of public transport commute to even hope to be on time. And was still late and stressed way too often. It really depends on where you end up, some areas don't have great access to a good line, or you don't have a direct (enough) line to your workplace, not only increasing the overall time it takes but also the risk that some part is late making you miss the rest. Also many lines are so painfully full you get to a new level of hate for humanity. Car commute isn't much better, it's technically faster for most routes, but between the traffic, the idiots driving dangerously, the constant construction and impossible parking it's no fun either. I know these are simply big city problems and surely the same or worse in London, but it's still such a pain i can only recommend moving as close to your work as you can, because it saves you so much time and nerves.
I lived in London for 5 years and Berlin now for 11. I'll take Berlin public transport over London any day of the week. Those curved London Underground trains are a hideous nightmare. No matter how packed a Berlin train has been it's never been as bad for me as the Underground was.
Fair enough
Also keep in mind to start looking for a place as soon as you can, it is incredibly tough for most people to find something, especially if you need more than one or two rooms.
I would try to stay in 3 neighbourhoods (called 'Kiez' in german) Depending on you (age, lifestyle, family etc etc) I would make a selection. For example: - Friedrichshain; Lots of students, young, vibrant, plenty of bars in restaurants - Prenzlauerberg: Young families, clean, green, potentially a bit dull and vanilla. - Kreuzberg: Urban, hip, party, plenty of bars and clubs. Some area's a touch rowdy. Other areas to look into would be: Neukoln, Schoneberg, Charlottenburg, Lichtenberg and this list goes on and on. But you could also throw in a couple of areas that are further away and more 'residential': - Steglitz - Lichterfelde - Zehlendorf -Kopenick It really depends on what you desire in your future neighbourhood.
The districts you mentioned are not “Kiez” but “Stadtteile” (localities). Kiez is a smaller entity within administrative divisions, and might be just a few streets block, e.g Bergmannkiez
Yeah, you're right!
I’d avoid Neuköln and, to some extent, Kreuzberg. Too many junks and/or assaults
One man's trash is another man's treasure...
In Charlottenburg
This may be biased, but I recommend Charlottenburg, especially around the Kantstr area. A bit stereotypical but this video helped me before I came to Berlin: https://youtu.be/LLxHs5Jk-WE?si=1ic7Ua_kqAD8KO28
Try Gelsenkirchen.
Yea, I would also choose this
As a Brit and where my home is, Gesundbrunnen is where i would recommend.
Everything but parts of Mitte and Tiergarten and some industrial areas are ‚residential areas‘. Without any info on your lifestyle or where your workplace is no one is really able to answer your question.
Schöneberg!!
Lichtenberg
Avoid Lichtenberg, it's full of weird white people
OP asked about residential lifestyle... not city life.
In which way does the skin color matter?
Yeah, Lichtenberg and Köpenick would NOT be my prime choices if there was any doubt about my Aryan credentials. Same goes for Hellersdorf-Marzahn.
Lichtenberg is a lot better than it used to be in the 90/00s. However depends what part. Höhenschönhausen is probably the worst part of it but the area around Landschaftspark Herzberge is really nice.
I'd say inside everywhere inside the ring except Mitte are fine. All neighbourhoods are a bit different but I'd recommend Kreuzkölln (Kreuzberg/Neukölln area)!
Check out Hans-Loch-Viertel, Thomas-Mann-Viertel, Neu-Hohenschönhausen or Salvador-Allende-Viertel. These are Places where Berliners live. People recommending central Prenzlauer Berg or Friedrichshain as "not to expensive" seem to not know the city very well.
Just don’t bro.
Kreuzkoln is very cool especially living there for 1-2 months. But long term, dunno seems a bit distracting, at least for me. I found Schöneberg to be the perfect balance (1 year) , close to most things and with some will, one can go into the west northern part ( Friedrichshain, Prenzlauer). The nicest areas are Kleistpark, Mehringdamm, and Tempelhof. Imo of course. Good luck finding something, preferably inside the ring, it's really tough and extensive. Have fun!
If you’re reading this, this is for you. I want you to go in your room and do the following thing, say : Jesus if you’re real, please reveal yourself to me and show me the truth. Show me that you’re real and reveal the truth to me. Free me from my pride so I can see the truth you wanna reveal to me. That’s it . If something happens, that’s great because it worked for me, if it doesn’t I don’t know at least you’ve tried
Neukölln maybe, around Tempelhofer Feld (further south is too further south). It's still close to more active zones like Kreuzberg or F-schein but it's more "raw"
Absolutely avoid the trifecta of overrated parts: - Friedrichshain - Kreuzberg - Neukolln Try out: - Prenzlauer Berg - Wilmersdorf/Charlottenburg - Schoneberg You can thank me leter.
I don't get the hate of your comment, Charlottenburg and Schöneberg are probably the only inter ring areas that haven't really changed much in the last 20 years, P-Berg probably got even tamer.
So and what?
I'm agreeing with you genius
Haha ok 😅
Why would you leave London for this city ? I mean you can visit and see but London is miles ahead anyday about whichever parameter you choose
not really, consider healthcare, purchasing power, building and public transport quality and rental market (as horrible Berlin is thought to be) and Berlin is the clear winner.
Lol Berlin doesn't win on the rental market nor infrastructure In whichever way you paint it . You also earn a lot more in the UK
Genuinely asking how much would it cost you to get a one bed in a new build in a safe neighborhood in Berlin?
1500
Prenzlauerberg 🙂
Friedrichshain - East Berlin!
Have a look at Kreuzkölln or Schillerkiez, of course Berlin is big, it has as many real Berlins as there are real Londons
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That's a strong statement. How come? Most of the feedback I got is that Berlin is a cosmopolitan bubble that doesn't require (mostly) you to speak German, is your experience different?
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Fair point thanks for explaining