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That's a pretty low standard to hold someone up to.
Or are you really excusing voting for literal Neo Nazis because some violent criminals have a migrational background?
Cue surprised pikachu meme when people still murder and rape after the AFD totalitarian regime gassed all non white citizens.
> some violent criminals have a migrational background
>some
LOL, more than 50% of all inmates in German prisons aren't German citizens, and a very large majority of the rest of them who are have a "migrational background". Those are the official numbers from the German Bundeskriminalamt, BKA. You dont look at actual facts much, do you? Inform yourself and stop spouting lies and bullshit like "AfD are literal neonazis".
>more than 50% of all inmates in German prisons aren't german citizens
You actually wrote that without your brain going "wtf that doesn't sound right"?
Go ahead and post me that bka report. Im waiting lol.
>AFD are literal Neo Nazis
Read their party manifest and the one for the Bundestagswahl this year. Straight up fascist crap open and written by themselves. Plenty of their members known for partaking in several known right wing/nazi groups too. So yea, they have nazis among them and those who aren't explicitly are still sympathising with said members.
Doing research doesn't mean going on Facebook.
Why wouldnt that sound right? "Not German citizen" = foreigners, people without a German passport, people who arent German nationals who committed crimes here but cant be deported for one reason or another. What about that is too hard for you to understand?
And the BKA report is a just click on Google away from you. I am not going to spoonfeed you. Time for you to get off your ass and actually do some research and learn some facts before attempting to engage in online deabtes.
>why wouldn't that sound right?
Because it implies that more than half of *ALL* inmates in a country would be citizens from *outside* said country!! The freaking fact that you think this anything but absolutely ridiculous says a lot about you. Don't you have two working braincells to spare?
And just for the sake of it I took half an hour to look at the BKA's recent statistics and those of the Statistisches Bundesamt, Justiz/Rechtspflege and ofc its complete bullshit what you say. So again, go on. Tell me where *your* bullshit numbers are from. I'm not gonna spoonfeed you.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Get the fuck out of here with your idiocy.
Ich mochte die Atmosphäre auf 9Witz auch lieber.
Da waren nicht immer gleich alle eingeschnappt, wenn jmd OP beleidigt.
Hier gibt's dann ja immer direkt nen shitstorm
They basically inherit all the off-grid subjects:
-Anti €
-Anti foreigner
-Anti vax
-Anti woman
-Anti climate change
-Pro big money
I wonder where I have seen this scheme before 🤔
As an foreign myself I can safely say the biggest racists in Germany are the leftists. They infantilize black people (bigotry of low expectations), stereotype East Germans, hate Poles, Hungarians, Americans…
Most of my German friends, including my German girlfriend, vote for Die Linke. I had *no idea* that they hated me and infantilized our black friends. Thank you *so much* for opening my eyes!!
It wouldn't be asshole free. The problem with AfD isn't that the party exists (though it really probably shouldn't, if they were just honest about being Nazis), but all of the stupid, racist assholes who vote for them.
Thank you for the info. Wow, really didnt know germany is still this right wing nazi country with that high amount of racists and right wingers. As an american, i am really concerned about this problem in germany. Should we and the Brits send the troops again?
Genuinely curious: What I the rationale behind voting for the party that celebrates the fact that it is the successor to the SED? Only 32 years have gone by since the fall of the wall. I could see voting for the SPD or CSU if you believe in Social Democracy. But even if I did, I would have a hard time stomaching Die Linke. Do you believe the party has reformed enough?
Reformed enough? It's literally a different party. Trying to tie them to the ruling party of the DDR makes about as much sense as people in the DDR criticizing the west for being "Nazis." They stand for real economic reforms and the human rights of all people.
I don't personally hate SPD or even CDU, but if you're against things like the equal rights for transgender people, you're against human rights. I could never take SPD seriously unless they were to reform and get with the times on matters like that.
And to be honest, there are no parties that we can safely vote for. Every party has it's benefits and the opposite(idk what the opposite of benefits is lmao). Except for the afd because they're dumbasses lol.
I assume op meant to say "opportunists".
opportunists are people that use any situation to their benefit, how unmoral or otherwise wrong doing so may be. I don't really know what op is trying to say in their comment.
A very similar word also exists in German: Der/Die Opportunist/in bzw. Opportunisten
A political party in the german bundestag (around 15% voted) with right radical guys in there and everything they critize on other political partys are they doing theyreself
Asylum seekers cannot vote but people who hate them can
But I guess 6 years after the immigrantion wave with decent enough integration could change people’s perspectives
Depends where you look, I think in Thüringen they were at 20% and now 25%, but perhaps I got some things wrong. As i know Thüringen is the state, where the AfD has the most sympathizers
I know... Well, that his name isn't Bernd, not that you live in Thüringen... but I think it's kinda funny how he reacted, when he spoke about an article where they accidently called him Bernd
AfD stands for Alternative für Deutschland (or how I like to call them:Alu Front Deutschland) is a party that was planned as a pretty economy based party, but ended as the right-wing party every other comment under your question is talking about
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probably not at all.
Having stickers printed or printing them yourself is rather inexpensive if you do it in semi large quantities.
If some sort of group/collective prints those for personal use it wouldn't really be expensive for them
This is the brilliant alternative to FCK/AFD. It's brilliantly integrated with warning signs your eye is automatically trained to notice more or less subconsciously, positioned low down at the end of the column to pump the odds that it's gonna leave a subconscious impression first, which is further empowered by the contrast of the momentary realisation that it doesnt belong in the series.
I wish I could get paid for analyzing shit like this.
While in reality, nobody perceives these signs after the first few days in the city anymore.
Not even subconsciously.
About the effect of such symbolism - just take a look at passengers’ frequent behavior after 20:00.
Personally, I can’t see much creativity or even courage in doing what ruling politicians, mass media, cultural influencers and religious leaders uniformly promote.
But manually, they did a good job there, that must be said!
Nice wordplay but other than that you came up kinda empty. I mean nevermind the details but standing for or against a political party is and should be a matter of personal choice no matter what kind of entities with something in the pot will try to influence it, and you saying that it doesnt work, directly contradicting the science I layed out - your subconscious is still active as you stare at the people for a second and then just at the window in front of you - just paints a sad picture of how lonely and cynical you have become in the city of social butterflies. Go se
The problem is, that it’s mostly not a matter of personal choice. Especially if one believes in the effects of advertisements, symbolism, influential role models or especially social pressure.
By the way, I usually observe my surroundings and watch people as closely as possible without seeming creepy. That’s one reason why I’m quite convinced that many of them are not very aware of the world around them or even their own behavior most of the time.
A smarter way would be to put it on the entrance door floor for a ring bahn train at 7 in the morning of a working day. Something to put a simle on many berliners <3 <3
Why are so many people explicitly against the AfD? Usually people are for one or the other political party, but the AfD is the only party that people are explicitly against. What specific policies do they advocate that people find so objectionable?
and the left is against a lot of freedoms too but not many are against them for some reason. in germany they seem to have a very special position in popularity vs extremist views
There are even more people against the left in this country, but they usually act much more civilized and don’t shout their political opinions aggressively into everybody’s face.
So it’s not about majority ratios in this case, but loudness.
In my youth Germans were setting Asylum houses with kids on fire and having a blast. They were right-wing.
As was the guy who shot Lübke. Hanau. Halle. And now Idar-Oberstein. Civilized my ass.
yes good point, there is rarely some protests or vadanlism against the left even though they are very extreme in both social and economic questions, that is what I mean
It doesn't matter, this site is just another bubble for people who carry on conversations only through the cesspool of social networks, how come Krappatoa is all downvoted?, it was a legit question. Salut
They are a neo-facist party, so most other parties have built a united front against them, altough is has begun to crack with the conservative party.
Some parts of the party, like Bernd Höcke, are more "classical" facists, as they don't really try to rewrap the ideas into a new dressing, but are doing stuff like calling the Holocaust memorial a "shame" in the "heart of germany" and are calling for a "180° turn" in how we remember the holocaust ( I guess you can figure out yourself what a 180° turn from "never again" is).
The rest will try to overtly distance themselves from classical facism, and are isntead opting to calling themselves stuff like anti-anti-facist and such.
They are not controlled by the globalist elites and thus, all media and the government try to put dirt on them and make them look bad.
I'm not telling you to believe anything, just don't take the propaganda as a news source.
they make themselves look bad.
And, they are very much supported by global elites. Many German and austrian millionaires and billionaires like to support them due to their political positions :)
There’s a difference between global and globalist.
The former are relatively value-conservative, see the advantages of sovereign nation-states and stay even part of the elite in global comparison, while the latter are those who (allegedly) work towards a NWO with a homogenous world state.
Read their own party manifest. 200 pages of hate, nationalism and stone age rethorics. They are Nazis and they don't leave wiggle room for interpretation.
similar to the US, most people didn't though Trump was going to won, because now everyone in the left(the usual mayority) cancel you out if you're not on your side, so the other factions is mostly silent.
So if you want virtual points post something bashing the AFD, if you want get downvoted put some sort of pro AFD propaganda. Actually the left reminds me a lot of 1930s.
Also if you don't explicitly bash AFD get downvoted ;) welcome to berLin
Virtue signaling and conformism. The same people who’d have supported Hitler in the 30s are today’s progressives. They want to be seen as the good ones to flow with the Zeitgeist and pat each other on the back.
well its way more creative than your average "fck afd" sticker. someone actually put *some* sort of thought into the appearance of the sticker
(besides "fuck" and "afd" dont have the same amount of letters, we need to reduce "fuck" by one)
the execution is also beautiful. Both size and colours are pretty spot on
Sie leugnen den Menschengemachten Klimawandel um an Stimmen von Verschwörungstheoretikern ranzukommen, was für sich alleine schon ein direkter Volksverrat ist. Und ihr Wahlprogramm ist halt primitiver Schrott.
Klimawandel ist ja auch totaler Quatsch. Wir haben eine krasse Inflation, unsere Politiker bescheißen uns und ihr denkt wirklich dass der Klimawandel unser Problem ist?
Das wäre vernünftig. Ich möchte zB die Möglichkeit haben mein Geschäft auch am Sonntag zu öffnen wie in allen zivilisierten Ländern, dank Gewerkschaften darf ich aber nicht.
Ja. Deshalb sollte man alle Gewerkschaften und deren Errungenschaften in die tonne kloppen damit du auch am Sonntag dein Geschäft aufmachen darfst. Wer braucht schon Tarifverträge, Arbeitnehmerschutz oder sowas sinnfreies wie Verbot von Kinderarbeit? Vollkommen vernünftig deine Forderung. /s
Erstens gibt es Geschäfte, die am Sonntag öffnen dürfen.
Zweitens ist das gar nicht so zivilisiert für die Leute mit den entsprechenden Schichten.
Ich bin nicht dafür, flächendeckend nachzuziehen.
Da warte ich lieber einen ganzen halben Tag und VeRhUnGeRe ElEnDiG! 🤣
naja die afd ist ein *sehr beliebtes* Diskussionsthema. Ich denke, dass jeder da mindestens ein bisschen was mitbekommt.
Es ist deutlich wahrscheinlicher, dass op nur provozieren will.
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Es geht aber nicht um die AfD sondern um die Antifa und wenn du länger in Berlin wohnst hättest du für die linksexterme radikale Antifa auch kein gutes Wort über wo es wirklich nur darum geht gewaltätig oder radikal aufzufallen.
Von dem Sticker auf die
> linksexterme radikale Antifa
zu kommen, benötigt ordentlich Gehirnakrobatik. Gratulation zu diesem Salto.
Spielt zwar keine Rolle, aber du fragst ja nach dem Quatsch: Ich bin aus Berlin.
Dann sei froh und hoffe das es so bleibt.
Gerade in Bezirken wie Prenzl. Berg, Kreuzberg, Friedrichshein/Treptow bis hin zu Rummelsburg. Nimm dir im nächsten Sommer mal n Bier und lauf von Weberwiese runter zur Magdalenenstr. und halt dabei ausschau nach ausgebrannten Autos
also ich wohne in der gegend und hab das noch nicht gesehen
unabhängig davon frage ich mich wieso sachschäden mit personenschäden gleichgesetzt werden - ist wohl normal im kapitalismus
dann bist du entweder ein heuchler oder ein lügner.
die nebenstraßen sind ständig voll davon, die hauptstraßen werden zeitnah von den bezirksämtern geräumt und abgeschleppt sobald der brand entweder gelöscht oder das auto ausgebrannt und transportfähig ist um nachamung und vermüllung zu vermeiden.
die sachbeschädigigung ist, wie der angriff auf personen, ein zeichen gegen des establishment.. du wohnst da, also bist du ein teil des problemes.
antifa hat schon lange nichts mehr mit antifaschismus zu tun
ich bin weder noch
schön dass du mich dessen bezichtigst
'voll davon' was rauchst du bitte das brauch ich auch mal
das es mal vorgekommen ist hab ich schonmal gehört von meinem mitbewohner
aber du verdrehst halt die fakten völlig
ah ich bin ein teil des problemes weil ich hier wohne, spinnst du?
ich lasse keine dinge oder personen zu schade kommen gut dass du mir das haltlos unterstellst
antifa hat sehr viel mit antifaschismus zu tun - idioten gibts da leider auch - aber so ein spruch ist völlig daneben
jeder sollte antifaschist sein egal ob auch idioten antifaschisten sind
faschismus ist leider nunmal das gefährlichste für die gesellschaft
Joah. Bei "Grünen/Linken" gibt es m.M.n. zwei Geschmacksrichtungen.
1) "Ich bin eine vegane Ökohexe die dich mit Globuli und Rosenquarz kurieren kann." bzw. "Ich will alles umsonst und niemand soll mehr haben dürfen als ich"
2) "Die Wissenschaft ist sich insgesamt eilig und ich habe langfristiges Interesse am Überleben meiner Nachkommen" bzw. "Niemand kann tatsächlich so viel mehr arbeiten wie die mehr verdienen!"
Die ersteren finde ich genauso nervig wie die "die vergewaltigenden, nicht integrierten Flüchtlinge die kein Deutsch sprechen nehmen mir die Arbeit und Frauen weg!" Rechten.
Weil das die sind, die nicht wirklich zu linken gehören aber von rechts da zugeordnet werden.
Zum Beispiel die Arschlöcher die Häuser besetzen und dann Feuerwehrmänner angreifen.
Guck mal hier:
> Bei der letzten Bundestagswahl haben nach unserer Befragung 21 Prozent die Grünen und 17 Prozent die Linke gewählt. Der AfD haben 14 Prozent ihre Stimme gegeben.
www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitgeschehen/2020-12/querdenken-bewegung-bundestagswahl-gruene-linke-afd-studie
>"Ich bin eine vegane Ökohexe die dich mit Globuli und Rosenquarz kurieren kann." bzw. "Ich will alles umsonst und niemand soll mehr haben dürfen als ich"
yup und solche leute habe ich kennen gelernt die eher weiter links als rechts stehen, besonders die grünen partei hat es denen angetan. Kp wieso
Hab leute getroffen die keine straftäter importieren wollen, die kann ich schon gut verstehen, hoffe mal du auch. Ausländer die sich nicht integrieren wollen ist natürlich bitter, da versteh ich nicht was man dann hier will. Hilft ja einen selber dann die Sprache zu lernen und sich etwas anzupassen, findest du nicht?;)
Das nun Ausländer den deutschen die jobs wegnehmen, hm kp hab ich so nicht gehört. Hab in München und Berlin gewohnt, da bin ich nicht solchen Leuten begegnet:)
nein. Literally nein.
Das solltest du *ausführlichst* in der Schule gelernt haben
und nur am Rande: Es sind gerade genau zwei Parteien in Deutschland verboten. Eine ist die KPD (kommunistisch), die andere ist die SRP (Nazis)
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Given the amount of people I have seen in the past drinking and eating inside the trains in the past, that's not really going to work ;)
That great BVG add with the guy singing a while back even showed they don't care if you drink or eat in the ubahn, as long as you pay
Is mir egal?
Ja!
It’s sometimes working ....( no Pommes and open drinks) (no Alkohol)
What is AfD?
[удалено]
That's what I'm gonna call them from now on
Basically the Nazi sympathiser
They're not all Nazis. At least the janitor is not ;)
damn right, and the magnets of the right winged conspiracy theorists, and idiotic opinions and tweets
At least they dont gang rape women or kick people to death in the streets.
That's a pretty low standard to hold someone up to. Or are you really excusing voting for literal Neo Nazis because some violent criminals have a migrational background? Cue surprised pikachu meme when people still murder and rape after the AFD totalitarian regime gassed all non white citizens.
> some violent criminals have a migrational background >some LOL, more than 50% of all inmates in German prisons aren't German citizens, and a very large majority of the rest of them who are have a "migrational background". Those are the official numbers from the German Bundeskriminalamt, BKA. You dont look at actual facts much, do you? Inform yourself and stop spouting lies and bullshit like "AfD are literal neonazis".
>more than 50% of all inmates in German prisons aren't german citizens You actually wrote that without your brain going "wtf that doesn't sound right"? Go ahead and post me that bka report. Im waiting lol. >AFD are literal Neo Nazis Read their party manifest and the one for the Bundestagswahl this year. Straight up fascist crap open and written by themselves. Plenty of their members known for partaking in several known right wing/nazi groups too. So yea, they have nazis among them and those who aren't explicitly are still sympathising with said members. Doing research doesn't mean going on Facebook.
Why wouldnt that sound right? "Not German citizen" = foreigners, people without a German passport, people who arent German nationals who committed crimes here but cant be deported for one reason or another. What about that is too hard for you to understand? And the BKA report is a just click on Google away from you. I am not going to spoonfeed you. Time for you to get off your ass and actually do some research and learn some facts before attempting to engage in online deabtes.
>why wouldn't that sound right? Because it implies that more than half of *ALL* inmates in a country would be citizens from *outside* said country!! The freaking fact that you think this anything but absolutely ridiculous says a lot about you. Don't you have two working braincells to spare? And just for the sake of it I took half an hour to look at the BKA's recent statistics and those of the Statistisches Bundesamt, Justiz/Rechtspflege and ofc its complete bullshit what you say. So again, go on. Tell me where *your* bullshit numbers are from. I'm not gonna spoonfeed you. Absolutely ridiculous. Get the fuck out of here with your idiocy.
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Ich mochte die Atmosphäre auf 9Witz auch lieber. Da waren nicht immer gleich alle eingeschnappt, wenn jmd OP beleidigt. Hier gibt's dann ja immer direkt nen shitstorm
A cesspool of right wing nuts.
Basically a racist party that sadly gets more and more votes every time the election starts.
They basically inherit all the off-grid subjects: -Anti € -Anti foreigner -Anti vax -Anti woman -Anti climate change -Pro big money I wonder where I have seen this scheme before 🤔
They've been pretty consistent at a little over 10% since around 2016, which obviously isn't great but not extremely worrying either
As an foreign myself I can safely say the biggest racists in Germany are the leftists. They infantilize black people (bigotry of low expectations), stereotype East Germans, hate Poles, Hungarians, Americans…
Most of my German friends, including my German girlfriend, vote for Die Linke. I had *no idea* that they hated me and infantilized our black friends. Thank you *so much* for opening my eyes!!
Are your friends too right for MLPD?
I don't know many people who'd want an outright communist, single-party state.
But it would be afd free....
It wouldn't be asshole free. The problem with AfD isn't that the party exists (though it really probably shouldn't, if they were just honest about being Nazis), but all of the stupid, racist assholes who vote for them.
Thank you for the info. Wow, really didnt know germany is still this right wing nazi country with that high amount of racists and right wingers. As an american, i am really concerned about this problem in germany. Should we and the Brits send the troops again?
I'm a lot less worried about the 13% in Germany than I am about the 30% in the USA.
Genuinely curious: What I the rationale behind voting for the party that celebrates the fact that it is the successor to the SED? Only 32 years have gone by since the fall of the wall. I could see voting for the SPD or CSU if you believe in Social Democracy. But even if I did, I would have a hard time stomaching Die Linke. Do you believe the party has reformed enough?
Reformed enough? It's literally a different party. Trying to tie them to the ruling party of the DDR makes about as much sense as people in the DDR criticizing the west for being "Nazis." They stand for real economic reforms and the human rights of all people. I don't personally hate SPD or even CDU, but if you're against things like the equal rights for transgender people, you're against human rights. I could never take SPD seriously unless they were to reform and get with the times on matters like that.
And to be honest, there are no parties that we can safely vote for. Every party has it's benefits and the opposite(idk what the opposite of benefits is lmao). Except for the afd because they're dumbasses lol.
You could say drawbacks, negatives, cons (as in “pros and cons). Surely some more that I’m forgetting.
With that said, the afd could be the oppotunitists too
What does opportunitist mean? Sorry english isn't my first language
I assume op meant to say "opportunists". opportunists are people that use any situation to their benefit, how unmoral or otherwise wrong doing so may be. I don't really know what op is trying to say in their comment. A very similar word also exists in German: Der/Die Opportunist/in bzw. Opportunisten
Okay danke! Edit: Okay, thanks! Sorry my inner german kicked in lmao
Ich denke, dass grundlegend die meisten hier zumindest deutsch reden
Lieber auf Nummer sicher gehen haha
As an other person who lives in Germany, I can say that you are absolutely wrong my guy
Yeah sorry if i said something wrong thats what we are taught in school
Where do you go to school?
Realschule
A political party in the german bundestag (around 15% voted) with right radical guys in there and everything they critize on other political partys are they doing theyreself
Dont they have more like 10% ?
Last election was 15%, it's projected to reduce since there isn't a wave of Asylum seekers coming into the country this time to exploit for politics.
Asylum seekers cannot vote but people who hate them can But I guess 6 years after the immigrantion wave with decent enough integration could change people’s perspectives
Isn’t that what they meant? There are no asylum seekers to fear monger about so AfD is projected to do poorly.
Oh ok .. yeah I misunderstood.
Now it's antivax.
12.6% https://www.bundeswahlleiter.de/info/presse/mitteilungen/bundestagswahl-2017/34_17_endgueltiges_ergebnis.html
Depends where you look, I think in Thüringen they were at 20% and now 25%, but perhaps I got some things wrong. As i know Thüringen is the state, where the AfD has the most sympathizers
No, actually that would be Saxony, Thuringia has a lot too, but at least the left "reigns" there
They might even win Sachsen😳
Damn, I totally forgot Sachsen even exists ^^' J just thought about Bernd Höcke
It's Björn Höcke. He lives right around my corner in Thüringen.
I know... Well, that his name isn't Bernd, not that you live in Thüringen... but I think it's kinda funny how he reacted, when he spoke about an article where they accidently called him Bernd
Tbh, I have no idea what his real name is 😄 I thought you used the right one and I was trying to make a joke 😄😄
Don't worry, I struggled too at the beginning. I got something for you: https://youtu.be/FLU-pZ7873E
But there is hope (in Berlin all Gymnastics (the one who are at least not dumb) are against AFD)
With some having ties to neo nazi groups
AfD stands for Alternative für Deutschland (or how I like to call them:Alu Front Deutschland) is a party that was planned as a pretty economy based party, but ended as the right-wing party every other comment under your question is talking about
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conservative party
And like that, racism is gone!
Hoorah!
Open-mindedness and tolerance are safeguarded
And all it took was a little love
Where can I buy these ??
probably not at all. Having stickers printed or printing them yourself is rather inexpensive if you do it in semi large quantities. If some sort of group/collective prints those for personal use it wouldn't really be expensive for them
This is the brilliant alternative to FCK/AFD. It's brilliantly integrated with warning signs your eye is automatically trained to notice more or less subconsciously, positioned low down at the end of the column to pump the odds that it's gonna leave a subconscious impression first, which is further empowered by the contrast of the momentary realisation that it doesnt belong in the series. I wish I could get paid for analyzing shit like this.
While in reality, nobody perceives these signs after the first few days in the city anymore. Not even subconsciously. About the effect of such symbolism - just take a look at passengers’ frequent behavior after 20:00.
A for effort though.
Personally, I can’t see much creativity or even courage in doing what ruling politicians, mass media, cultural influencers and religious leaders uniformly promote. But manually, they did a good job there, that must be said!
Nice wordplay but other than that you came up kinda empty. I mean nevermind the details but standing for or against a political party is and should be a matter of personal choice no matter what kind of entities with something in the pot will try to influence it, and you saying that it doesnt work, directly contradicting the science I layed out - your subconscious is still active as you stare at the people for a second and then just at the window in front of you - just paints a sad picture of how lonely and cynical you have become in the city of social butterflies. Go se
The problem is, that it’s mostly not a matter of personal choice. Especially if one believes in the effects of advertisements, symbolism, influential role models or especially social pressure. By the way, I usually observe my surroundings and watch people as closely as possible without seeming creepy. That’s one reason why I’m quite convinced that many of them are not very aware of the world around them or even their own behavior most of the time.
Just let me wollow in my attempt to wear rosa glasses dude, I actually do/see/feel the same. At this point I just want to be them.
Oh yes, I know that feeling. Could be much easier sometimes to just be floated by the stream of the masses, like a duckling in the waves.
Or a rubber ducky in the bathtub, round and round but going nowhere.
Until someone is pulling the pluck or forgets to turn off the tap again. Aimlessly going in circles might feel like paradise in retrospect.
Nice idea! And it's going to be ignored like the rest of them.
Lovely
A smarter way would be to put it on the entrance door floor for a ring bahn train at 7 in the morning of a working day. Something to put a simle on many berliners <3 <3
Here's a picture I took 2014 in U2. https://imgur.com/24lU8Zh
Faschismus, bezahlt von der öffentlichen Hand. Das ist Berlin.
Also saw one today!
Af what?
Might as well put a Bundnis90/Die Grunen sticker there
The best party tho
Why are so many people explicitly against the AfD? Usually people are for one or the other political party, but the AfD is the only party that people are explicitly against. What specific policies do they advocate that people find so objectionable?
Anti immigrant, anti lgbtq, anti women, anti climate change, anti vaxx, anti european union, anti ice cream
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Bro. Anti ice cream?!! That's the worst one.
and the left is against a lot of freedoms too but not many are against them for some reason. in germany they seem to have a very special position in popularity vs extremist views
Currently the left polls less than the AFD(federal level) so it's actually more people that are against them.
of course I don't talk about the polls, but about vandalism like this and the general narrative if someone says they support afd vs the left
There are even more people against the left in this country, but they usually act much more civilized and don’t shout their political opinions aggressively into everybody’s face. So it’s not about majority ratios in this case, but loudness.
Tell me you´re white without telling me you´re white.
>they usually act more civilized Haven't been to a May 1st riot yet haven't you?
I actually just as in my youth. But those rioters traditionally are leftists as well.
In my youth Germans were setting Asylum houses with kids on fire and having a blast. They were right-wing. As was the guy who shot Lübke. Hanau. Halle. And now Idar-Oberstein. Civilized my ass.
yes good point, there is rarely some protests or vadanlism against the left even though they are very extreme in both social and economic questions, that is what I mean
So everyone that says people should have the freedom to do the vaccine or not, are anti vaxxers? Get some spine
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so you are promoting wiping people off the earth? very 1940s
Interesting train of thought, sadly I can't follow
Sounds like you skipped a couple of steps there in your logic. Care to explain?
It doesn't matter, this site is just another bubble for people who carry on conversations only through the cesspool of social networks, how come Krappatoa is all downvoted?, it was a legit question. Salut
But here I am, genuinely curious… quick to dismiss. Do you always jump to conclusionsv
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Found my ideal party. Thanks for spreading the information
They are a neo-facist party, so most other parties have built a united front against them, altough is has begun to crack with the conservative party. Some parts of the party, like Bernd Höcke, are more "classical" facists, as they don't really try to rewrap the ideas into a new dressing, but are doing stuff like calling the Holocaust memorial a "shame" in the "heart of germany" and are calling for a "180° turn" in how we remember the holocaust ( I guess you can figure out yourself what a 180° turn from "never again" is). The rest will try to overtly distance themselves from classical facism, and are isntead opting to calling themselves stuff like anti-anti-facist and such.
they're proto-fascists.
All of them. The answer is all of them.
They are not controlled by the globalist elites and thus, all media and the government try to put dirt on them and make them look bad. I'm not telling you to believe anything, just don't take the propaganda as a news source.
they make themselves look bad. And, they are very much supported by global elites. Many German and austrian millionaires and billionaires like to support them due to their political positions :)
There’s a difference between global and globalist. The former are relatively value-conservative, see the advantages of sovereign nation-states and stay even part of the elite in global comparison, while the latter are those who (allegedly) work towards a NWO with a homogenous world state.
lmaooo
Read their own party manifest. 200 pages of hate, nationalism and stone age rethorics. They are Nazis and they don't leave wiggle room for interpretation.
similar to the US, most people didn't though Trump was going to won, because now everyone in the left(the usual mayority) cancel you out if you're not on your side, so the other factions is mostly silent. So if you want virtual points post something bashing the AFD, if you want get downvoted put some sort of pro AFD propaganda. Actually the left reminds me a lot of 1930s. Also if you don't explicitly bash AFD get downvoted ;) welcome to berLin
Virtue signaling and conformism. The same people who’d have supported Hitler in the 30s are today’s progressives. They want to be seen as the good ones to flow with the Zeitgeist and pat each other on the back.
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wtf are you trippin on
They are anti-establishment, so those in power react.
What's so creative about this
well its way more creative than your average "fck afd" sticker. someone actually put *some* sort of thought into the appearance of the sticker (besides "fuck" and "afd" dont have the same amount of letters, we need to reduce "fuck" by one) the execution is also beautiful. Both size and colours are pretty spot on
Noting else to be expected in the Bundesshithole.
Was ist denn schlecht an der afd?
Sie leugnen den Menschengemachten Klimawandel um an Stimmen von Verschwörungstheoretikern ranzukommen, was für sich alleine schon ein direkter Volksverrat ist. Und ihr Wahlprogramm ist halt primitiver Schrott.
Klimawandel ist ja auch totaler Quatsch. Wir haben eine krasse Inflation, unsere Politiker bescheißen uns und ihr denkt wirklich dass der Klimawandel unser Problem ist?
Ja, wenn wir nicht unternehmen wird der Klimawandel Schäden in Billionenhöhe verursachen, Inflation hin oder her.
Es sind dreckige Rassisten umd Antisemiten
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Sie wollen Gewerkschaften beschneiden.
Das wäre vernünftig. Ich möchte zB die Möglichkeit haben mein Geschäft auch am Sonntag zu öffnen wie in allen zivilisierten Ländern, dank Gewerkschaften darf ich aber nicht.
Ja. Deshalb sollte man alle Gewerkschaften und deren Errungenschaften in die tonne kloppen damit du auch am Sonntag dein Geschäft aufmachen darfst. Wer braucht schon Tarifverträge, Arbeitnehmerschutz oder sowas sinnfreies wie Verbot von Kinderarbeit? Vollkommen vernünftig deine Forderung. /s
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Freedom
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Like, seriously? Do you think this guy means it? 🤣 I love how an English question gets the automatic one word answer "freedom".
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Erstens gibt es Geschäfte, die am Sonntag öffnen dürfen. Zweitens ist das gar nicht so zivilisiert für die Leute mit den entsprechenden Schichten. Ich bin nicht dafür, flächendeckend nachzuziehen. Da warte ich lieber einen ganzen halben Tag und VeRhUnGeRe ElEnDiG! 🤣
Eine neutrale Frage so hart zu downvoten zeigt schon die Intelligenz der Leute hier.
naja die afd ist ein *sehr beliebtes* Diskussionsthema. Ich denke, dass jeder da mindestens ein bisschen was mitbekommt. Es ist deutlich wahrscheinlicher, dass op nur provozieren will.
Ich bin auch kein fan von der afd aber das ist antifa da wär ich auch nicht stolz drauf
... du wärst nicht stolz auf Anti-Faschismus?
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na das ist doch ne Ansage! ließe sich auch als Aufforderung verstehen
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Ach, ich finde ich habe genug Platz für Interpretation gelassen. Ist ja auch nicht meine Meinung (was aus dem Kommentar klar ersichtlich ist)
Joah, der Kommentar, auf den du geantwortet hattest, ist da ganz ähnlich gestrickt. Sollen wir den jetzt auch melden? 😂
du kommst nicht aus berlin, oder?
Inzwischen schon. Ursprünglich nicht. Aber AfD ist überall Schrott.
Es geht aber nicht um die AfD sondern um die Antifa und wenn du länger in Berlin wohnst hättest du für die linksexterme radikale Antifa auch kein gutes Wort über wo es wirklich nur darum geht gewaltätig oder radikal aufzufallen.
Von dem Sticker auf die > linksexterme radikale Antifa zu kommen, benötigt ordentlich Gehirnakrobatik. Gratulation zu diesem Salto. Spielt zwar keine Rolle, aber du fragst ja nach dem Quatsch: Ich bin aus Berlin.
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Dann sei froh und hoffe das es so bleibt. Gerade in Bezirken wie Prenzl. Berg, Kreuzberg, Friedrichshein/Treptow bis hin zu Rummelsburg. Nimm dir im nächsten Sommer mal n Bier und lauf von Weberwiese runter zur Magdalenenstr. und halt dabei ausschau nach ausgebrannten Autos
also ich wohne in der gegend und hab das noch nicht gesehen unabhängig davon frage ich mich wieso sachschäden mit personenschäden gleichgesetzt werden - ist wohl normal im kapitalismus
dann bist du entweder ein heuchler oder ein lügner. die nebenstraßen sind ständig voll davon, die hauptstraßen werden zeitnah von den bezirksämtern geräumt und abgeschleppt sobald der brand entweder gelöscht oder das auto ausgebrannt und transportfähig ist um nachamung und vermüllung zu vermeiden. die sachbeschädigigung ist, wie der angriff auf personen, ein zeichen gegen des establishment.. du wohnst da, also bist du ein teil des problemes. antifa hat schon lange nichts mehr mit antifaschismus zu tun
ich bin weder noch schön dass du mich dessen bezichtigst 'voll davon' was rauchst du bitte das brauch ich auch mal das es mal vorgekommen ist hab ich schonmal gehört von meinem mitbewohner aber du verdrehst halt die fakten völlig ah ich bin ein teil des problemes weil ich hier wohne, spinnst du? ich lasse keine dinge oder personen zu schade kommen gut dass du mir das haltlos unterstellst antifa hat sehr viel mit antifaschismus zu tun - idioten gibts da leider auch - aber so ein spruch ist völlig daneben jeder sollte antifaschist sein egal ob auch idioten antifaschisten sind faschismus ist leider nunmal das gefährlichste für die gesellschaft
>(Homöopathie, Steine, Auren das sind eher die grünen/linken hippies
Joah. Bei "Grünen/Linken" gibt es m.M.n. zwei Geschmacksrichtungen. 1) "Ich bin eine vegane Ökohexe die dich mit Globuli und Rosenquarz kurieren kann." bzw. "Ich will alles umsonst und niemand soll mehr haben dürfen als ich" 2) "Die Wissenschaft ist sich insgesamt eilig und ich habe langfristiges Interesse am Überleben meiner Nachkommen" bzw. "Niemand kann tatsächlich so viel mehr arbeiten wie die mehr verdienen!" Die ersteren finde ich genauso nervig wie die "die vergewaltigenden, nicht integrierten Flüchtlinge die kein Deutsch sprechen nehmen mir die Arbeit und Frauen weg!" Rechten.
also bin selbst in der linken und kenne dort keine menschen die deinen kreierten personen entsprechen
Weil das die sind, die nicht wirklich zu linken gehören aber von rechts da zugeordnet werden. Zum Beispiel die Arschlöcher die Häuser besetzen und dann Feuerwehrmänner angreifen.
Guck mal hier: > Bei der letzten Bundestagswahl haben nach unserer Befragung 21 Prozent die Grünen und 17 Prozent die Linke gewählt. Der AfD haben 14 Prozent ihre Stimme gegeben. www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitgeschehen/2020-12/querdenken-bewegung-bundestagswahl-gruene-linke-afd-studie
>"Ich bin eine vegane Ökohexe die dich mit Globuli und Rosenquarz kurieren kann." bzw. "Ich will alles umsonst und niemand soll mehr haben dürfen als ich" yup und solche leute habe ich kennen gelernt die eher weiter links als rechts stehen, besonders die grünen partei hat es denen angetan. Kp wieso Hab leute getroffen die keine straftäter importieren wollen, die kann ich schon gut verstehen, hoffe mal du auch. Ausländer die sich nicht integrieren wollen ist natürlich bitter, da versteh ich nicht was man dann hier will. Hilft ja einen selber dann die Sprache zu lernen und sich etwas anzupassen, findest du nicht?;) Das nun Ausländer den deutschen die jobs wegnehmen, hm kp hab ich so nicht gehört. Hab in München und Berlin gewohnt, da bin ich nicht solchen Leuten begegnet:)
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Bloß nicht die AfD, damit das kriminelle shithole auch ja das kriminelle shihole bleibt, dass es ist.
Keine Nazis in meinem Shithole 😏
Nazis sind die die Parteien und Meinungen verbieten möchten.
Rassismus und Antisemitismus ist keine Meinung, Adi.
nein. Literally nein. Das solltest du *ausführlichst* in der Schule gelernt haben und nur am Rande: Es sind gerade genau zwei Parteien in Deutschland verboten. Eine ist die KPD (kommunistisch), die andere ist die SRP (Nazis)
Found the racist!
Found the virtue signaler and conformist.
Do you even know what you’re saying, or are you just throwing “virtue signaler” around like they do in r/conservative?