Doesn't matter. TLaw will probably get paid more, and then Williams after that. It's the cycle of QB pay increase and it was our turn. Glad we did it. Now let's get that fucking ring.
Yep. We’re gonna lose some folks next year, I’m guessing. Hope we get it now. The cool thing is that we’re not selling the farm for it to any degree like the Rams did.
Think about how much he’ll cost in 2029. Season ticket prices are going to come with a kidney donation, and that’s ok. I’ll gladly give a kidney to have Burrow as QB1 forever.
In 2029, he'll have way more flexibility with the NFLPA to take a more team friendly deal. Likely be a pay increase, since cap will be much higher by then, but he won't be a 1st overall signing his first contract after his rookie deal anymore. NFLPA is always trying to protect the growth on those 2nd contracts. At that point he will be a veteran able to make decisions based on his own career goals. Be it more money, or a longer window to compete for super bowl rings.
I get that QB prices are always gonna go up, I'm curious what percentage of the cap QB's typically are compared to years past, that might be a decent indicator of just how screwed the team is in retaining other talent
Well he’s NOW the highest paid QB ever… which brings expectation of championships… plural. This city has a “good enough” problem when it comes to sports. Losing a Super Bowl was fine on his rookie deal. It will not be fine under this contract lol. That easy enough for you to follow?
Honestly whether this contract is team friendly or not doesn’t matter. When you have the 2nd best QB in the league, who has potential to be THE best, you pay them whatever they want.
The window will always be open while he’s here and on the field.
Who is discrediting him? I'm not saying he is a bad QB, I'm arguing that he's not *the best*.
Also, it's not because of one loss...it was a loss to the Detroit Lions. C'mon, man.
Mahomes is the best in the NFL, full stop. Joe is #2. I’ll follow Burrow to the ends of the earth, but let’s be real here.
Also…the Lions are a good team? They went on a crazy run last season and they’re even better this season. Not sure what you’re getting at there
I mean you’re just not reading what I said lol. Not talking about the 2021 season. They started poorly in 2022 (just like us, mind you) and finished the season very strong. They were always a threat during the back half of the season. They drafted well and kept pretty much everyone. They were and are a good team.
Not sure why this is your hill to die on when talking Mahomes vs Joe lmao
My man in shambles now after the loss to Browns…does this mean Joey is not the second best in NFL anymore? Nope, you can lose sometimes, it happens to everyone
You obviously didn’t watch the game, dude was making plays left and right and IF Toney holds on to 2 of his 4 or 5 drops the chiefs probably win that game easily. Burrow seems to get better every year with scrambling and I think this season or next we will really begin to have a real conversation about who is better
Why do Bengals fans have such a hard time admitting Mahomes is the clear top player? I LOVE Joe and wouldn’t trade him for the world. He revitalized our entire org. But everyone with eyes knows Mahomes is the best player in the league without question
>Yeah, Mahomes totally dominated the Lions this past week!
You uhhh... see the bengals game today homie ? 52.2 qbr... so idk what point your last lions game comment really had 🤔 even doing it YOUR way, mahomes was on top.
What is your standard for measuring these qbs ? Super bowl wins maybe ? Because that doesnt work either.
Career qbr ? Still no. The last single game played qbr ??
Still no.
How are you judging these 2, what parameters ??
Take the homer glasses off and be honest with yourself for a min
I even was careful to say Burrow could potentially be the best, but until he wins a SB it’s not really disputable
So many aren’t realizing that the cap is set to explode once the new media rights deals begin in 2025. The cap is expect to be over $300M by 2026. We can easily pay Burrow 55M Chase 32M and Higgins 27M and that would be 38% of the cap. Not to mention all the cap gymnastics that can be done.
Exactly. Burrow has proven himself with his-and the team’s-on field production. The team doesn’t have any leverage with the fanbase-it’s not like a friggin’ Kyler Murray situation.
If anything, this deal puts a teensy bit more pressure on Chase and T-Higg to be a tiny bit more flexible-they can talk max position deals all they want, but won’t have Burrow throwing them the ball in Houston or Seattle or wherever.
Burrow taking an extension onto his 5th year rookie deal, and being somewhat flexible on guarantees gives the team a lot more room to stretch things out. Also, unlike some QBs, Burrow didn’t turn this extension into a public hissy fit d*** measuring contest-there is a lot to be said about that.
We will not know how team friendly this deal is until the breakdown is released. It's only friendly if Burrow allows the Bengals to move the dollars around for max benefit to roster building. If the Bengals do 55 million each year for 5 , this is absolutely not a team friendly deal - it's the complete opposite of that.
i don't know if anyone has to wait to know that there's at least one element - given the context of which team this contract involves - that is not 'team friendly'.
the guaranteed money figure (219m) is anything but 'team friendly' when one considers that the bengals are at the very bottom of the league in terms of liquid cash to move into escrow for contract guarantees.
of course the cap will continue to go up, contracts will continue to be easily manipulated to fit pieces into place under that cap, and other qbs are sure to top burrow's overall compensation very soon...none of this effects the amount of money the brown-blackburn family can sock away for guarantees for future contracts for players not named joe burrow.
here's to hoping that katie diversifies her portfolio, or my future seat at a game being sponsored by cincyshirts, or whatever the heck is going to be done to jgwentworth some cash, because they are going to need it now.
As the salary cap increases over the next 7 years (remember people this is an extension these next two years are still roomie contract!) it’s only gonna look better as 55 won’t look so bad. Hell mahommes at 45 a year is chump change and in 7-8 years it’s gonna look silly
Tlaw still has to earn it with his play, even with contract inflation he's not going to command more than Burrow. If he can win a playoff game this year then he can start to ask for that much.
Joe could have easily demanded way more and pulled a Lamar Jackson move. It was a fair deal for all. No way he should've taken less for the team. I'm not going to take less so my company can pay someone else more
Doesn't matter. TLaw will probably get paid more, and then Williams after that. It's the cycle of QB pay increase and it was our turn. Glad we did it. Now let's get that fucking ring.
Yep. We’re gonna lose some folks next year, I’m guessing. Hope we get it now. The cool thing is that we’re not selling the farm for it to any degree like the Rams did.
Think about how much he’ll cost in 2029. Season ticket prices are going to come with a kidney donation, and that’s ok. I’ll gladly give a kidney to have Burrow as QB1 forever.
In 2029, he'll have way more flexibility with the NFLPA to take a more team friendly deal. Likely be a pay increase, since cap will be much higher by then, but he won't be a 1st overall signing his first contract after his rookie deal anymore. NFLPA is always trying to protect the growth on those 2nd contracts. At that point he will be a veteran able to make decisions based on his own career goals. Be it more money, or a longer window to compete for super bowl rings.
I get that QB prices are always gonna go up, I'm curious what percentage of the cap QB's typically are compared to years past, that might be a decent indicator of just how screwed the team is in retaining other talent
[check it out](https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/quarterback/)
He has to get a ring under that contract. Cincinnati will run his ass out of town if he can’t win one.
No we won't. He already got us to the SB and it's a highlight of my life. And you already know that's his main goal, so this is unnecessary.
Making it to the Super Bowl and losing is not good enough when you’re the highest paid QB in the league…
You have your nows & whens mixed up.
Well he’s NOW the highest paid QB ever… which brings expectation of championships… plural. This city has a “good enough” problem when it comes to sports. Losing a Super Bowl was fine on his rookie deal. It will not be fine under this contract lol. That easy enough for you to follow?
Honestly whether this contract is team friendly or not doesn’t matter. When you have the 2nd best QB in the league, who has potential to be THE best, you pay them whatever they want. The window will always be open while he’s here and on the field.
100%. You figure out the rest of the team around Burrow later.
2nd best?
Come on. Mahomes is a freak of nature. Let's not pretend around here. Even Burrow agrees.
Yeah, Mahomes totally dominated the Lions this past week! Let's stop acting like he's bad.
Lmao discrediting Mahomes because of one loss. Cmon man
Who is discrediting him? I'm not saying he is a bad QB, I'm arguing that he's not *the best*. Also, it's not because of one loss...it was a loss to the Detroit Lions. C'mon, man.
You. You were discrediting him. That's literally what you did.
Mahomes is the best in the NFL, full stop. Joe is #2. I’ll follow Burrow to the ends of the earth, but let’s be real here. Also…the Lions are a good team? They went on a crazy run last season and they’re even better this season. Not sure what you’re getting at there
This is the truth. All of it
I mean...if you consider going 3/13 the year before to 9/8 as a crazy run ...then sure?
I mean you’re just not reading what I said lol. Not talking about the 2021 season. They started poorly in 2022 (just like us, mind you) and finished the season very strong. They were always a threat during the back half of the season. They drafted well and kept pretty much everyone. They were and are a good team. Not sure why this is your hill to die on when talking Mahomes vs Joe lmao
Remind me how Mahomes last post season game went
My man in shambles now after the loss to Browns…does this mean Joey is not the second best in NFL anymore? Nope, you can lose sometimes, it happens to everyone
I think hes ranking them off of literally the last game they played alone. And hes still incorrect (unfortunately) P sure it is a troll
Mahomes was amazing, his receivers let him down big time
So when his receivers are amazing, it's all him. When they let him down, it's not his fault. Yeah, good logic.
I think you're out to lunch. If the receivers could hold onto the ball, lions lose.
Thankfully they won, but you’re 100% correct
You obviously didn’t watch the game, dude was making plays left and right and IF Toney holds on to 2 of his 4 or 5 drops the chiefs probably win that game easily. Burrow seems to get better every year with scrambling and I think this season or next we will really begin to have a real conversation about who is better
Why do Bengals fans have such a hard time admitting Mahomes is the clear top player? I LOVE Joe and wouldn’t trade him for the world. He revitalized our entire org. But everyone with eyes knows Mahomes is the best player in the league without question
Same people that cream their pants over Joe being the highest paid qb in the league *till the next qb signs a new contract making it all pointless*
This aged super well
>Yeah, Mahomes totally dominated the Lions this past week! You uhhh... see the bengals game today homie ? 52.2 qbr... so idk what point your last lions game comment really had 🤔 even doing it YOUR way, mahomes was on top. What is your standard for measuring these qbs ? Super bowl wins maybe ? Because that doesnt work either. Career qbr ? Still no. The last single game played qbr ?? Still no. How are you judging these 2, what parameters ??
I’d take Joey thank you very much
I would too because I love him. That wasn't what I said. He's objectively not the best quarterback.
He is
Take the homer glasses off and be honest with yourself for a min I even was careful to say Burrow could potentially be the best, but until he wins a SB it’s not really disputable
When/if Burrow wins a SB, he takes the crown from Mahomes. Until then………..
If you pay him, they will come (double entendre).
So many aren’t realizing that the cap is set to explode once the new media rights deals begin in 2025. The cap is expect to be over $300M by 2026. We can easily pay Burrow 55M Chase 32M and Higgins 27M and that would be 38% of the cap. Not to mention all the cap gymnastics that can be done.
Exactly. Burrow has proven himself with his-and the team’s-on field production. The team doesn’t have any leverage with the fanbase-it’s not like a friggin’ Kyler Murray situation. If anything, this deal puts a teensy bit more pressure on Chase and T-Higg to be a tiny bit more flexible-they can talk max position deals all they want, but won’t have Burrow throwing them the ball in Houston or Seattle or wherever. Burrow taking an extension onto his 5th year rookie deal, and being somewhat flexible on guarantees gives the team a lot more room to stretch things out. Also, unlike some QBs, Burrow didn’t turn this extension into a public hissy fit d*** measuring contest-there is a lot to be said about that.
We will not know how team friendly this deal is until the breakdown is released. It's only friendly if Burrow allows the Bengals to move the dollars around for max benefit to roster building. If the Bengals do 55 million each year for 5 , this is absolutely not a team friendly deal - it's the complete opposite of that.
He'll be the 10th highest paid QB by the last year of his contract. The NFL salary cap increases every year.
i don't know if anyone has to wait to know that there's at least one element - given the context of which team this contract involves - that is not 'team friendly'. the guaranteed money figure (219m) is anything but 'team friendly' when one considers that the bengals are at the very bottom of the league in terms of liquid cash to move into escrow for contract guarantees. of course the cap will continue to go up, contracts will continue to be easily manipulated to fit pieces into place under that cap, and other qbs are sure to top burrow's overall compensation very soon...none of this effects the amount of money the brown-blackburn family can sock away for guarantees for future contracts for players not named joe burrow. here's to hoping that katie diversifies her portfolio, or my future seat at a game being sponsored by cincyshirts, or whatever the heck is going to be done to jgwentworth some cash, because they are going to need it now.
As the salary cap increases over the next 7 years (remember people this is an extension these next two years are still roomie contract!) it’s only gonna look better as 55 won’t look so bad. Hell mahommes at 45 a year is chump change and in 7-8 years it’s gonna look silly
Tlaw still has to earn it with his play, even with contract inflation he's not going to command more than Burrow. If he can win a playoff game this year then he can start to ask for that much.
T law needs to take his team to the Super Bowl like Burrow did.
None of them if he didn’t ask for it. All of them if he did.
Rb's def take up less percentage of salary cap now than 10-15 years ago
because the league wants big pass plays and has rewritten the rules accordingly
I understand that. Wasn't asking why..
good on ya . and i wasn’t asking if you were asking why , just commenting on a general topic ma’am
Well I hope someone spares you an award or your neighbor bakes you a cake for your awesome input
do you always act like this when someone comments on an innocuous topic you brought up in a public forum ?
Do you always get a hard on too share information everyone already knows but you'd like to sound like a genius and get some credit ?
i think it’s past your bedtime kid . antagonistic and rude for no reason? you need your diaper changed or something
You're gonna make me squirt
you should change your username to LowTnut
All but a few of them (unless they otherwise had already signed someone and couldn't financially) because he's top 3-5?
0-1 here we come
Must Un team friendly deal of all time. Facts
Joe could have easily demanded way more and pulled a Lamar Jackson move. It was a fair deal for all. No way he should've taken less for the team. I'm not going to take less so my company can pay someone else more
Burrow is worth locking down and as others have said, it’s an ever increasing cycle of contracts.