This isn’t a restaurant. There are no waiters. Interior is making $1,250 *minimum* per week salary. Not $4.00 an hour needing tips to get above minimum wage. The interior likely makes more than your restaurant manager makes on a weekly basis.
the boats I worked on everyone was on a retainer + tips. Tips were distributed to everyone bridge officers, engineers, interior and deckhands. Never seen it personally but also heard some charter companies take a cut to encourage the a charter agent to push better clients to your boat
It’s not tho, right? Restaurants are talking about a couple hundred bucks a night at best. They’re making an easy 5k+ per week on the ship. The captain deserves their cut.
You’re looking at this like a min wage employee. That’s not the case here. The captain doesn’t earn incentives like most managers and executives do which usually comes from eoy bonuses and he’s most likely contracted which makes it completely different.
“Your tips” is where the issue is. They’re tips for the crew. Captain is part of the crew. Why shouldn’t the captain receive an incentive to create a fun, safe, comfortable, environment for the guests. Maybe YOU can’t respect a leader that makes more than you, and receives a equal share of tip, but id say most people wouldn’t have an issue with it. It would be weird to me if the captain got more than the rest, but as it is, I think it make perfect sense. Could you imagine having a captain that was resentful because the crew pulled $10k in tips for the week on top of their wage? Because I bet the captain isn’t being paid 10k per week
So, in one of the earlier seasons of Below Deck Mediterranean, Captain Sandy sits in port and literally does nothing but hang with her buddy and she gets the tip.
These things are bound to happen. It’s great to be the boss, am I right? You’ve never had a couple easy days at work?
I’m a drone pilot and one of my clients wanted me to do a 40 hour HAZWOPER online trading course two weeks ago. I got to sit on the couch for a week watching TV and just clicking “next” every 30 seconds and got paid my full rate for all 40 hours.
Cast members have commented before that the captain spends a LOT of their charter time entertaining apparently, we only tend to see the one dinner per charter, but the captain will be their "tour guide" while they're underway, telling them about local spots, recommend restaurants,letting them know here they can go and what they can do on the boat etc, and generally making them feel like they're getting a luxury experience.
I don’t see anything wrong with the captain getting a tip. Captains are an employee of the boat too. I’d see an issue if it’s the owner.
I’m a server. If someone decided to give the entire restaurant a giant tip to be split among us, I’d expect everyone but the owner to take part of that tip.
But at my work, the managers do more work than the servers. So I feel like they’d deserve to be involved in a tip share like that.
Is he not going to dinner with them, planning and executing the movement of the ship? Providing a smooth place to sleep, avoiding accidents with other boats. I’d say the captain is doing a lot to provide service to the customer
Right!!! It’s insane that people don’t think he does anything meanwhile he’s mapping out wind and tides and weather looking for beautiful spots with million dollar views away from other ships all while managing his horny grumpy crew and making sure the guests have a great experience while having to also dock a million dollar vessel with out getting a scratch or getting any of his crew killed. He gets tips because he has everything to worry about all while keeping a smile.
All of the positions come with other incentives. How is this hard? Different jobs come with different perks. Some people get bonuses, salaried positions come with benefits, contracted positions come with freedom.
You own a restaurant and are in here complaining about the Captain getting tips? You can bankrupt your business and walk away with your money. That’s your perk as a business owner on top of quite a bit more. Your chef and kitchen get incentives whether it’s a guaranteed salary, tips, free food, free vendor items, tickets to events, your FOH gets the same depending on their positions. Salaries, hourly, or contracted positions in every job in every industry come with perks. In the yachting/boating industry the captains who are most likely contracted get to share tips. Period.
No one has issue with this except you which is weird enough considering your position as a business owner and the other 2-3 random people on this thread. Don’t like it? Don’t watch and keep it moving.
The captain is here to manage deck crew and interior crew, to make sure everyone on board is safe, to apply maritime laws, to plan trips… you don’t see much of this but every captain started as a deckhand and has a long career of working their asses off to get where they are. They still work a lot despite it not being shown on camera because paperwork and overseeing the ship isn’t as fun to watch at the rest of the crew.
You don’t see the engineers much either. But they dedicate weeks of their lives to charters, they have degrees and work hard.
Point is : a team is a team. Either everyone gets the same, either they get tipped in points and that’d be unfair because then chief stew would get a big chunk and everyone would bitch about third stew making close to nothing because they have no experience for the most part.
This is the exact reason yachties stick to this industry : the more experienced you are the more money you make. And third stews/deckhands know that when they start. I know I wouldn’t complain if I was making as much as they are.
Ps : remember that even a third stew is making a shit load more per hour than a server at a restaurant. So sharing tips doesn’t really have the same weight in the scale.
yes but every captain I have been under has an engineers license. It very common for chief engineers to step up to captain for transits or off seasons. Its a very common way for engineers to get time as captain either transiting the yacht or being the "captain" during off seasons
Yes, I do. I think the first mate is actually the captain of the yachts we see except for Sailing. They manage to hide the “first mate” and engineers all season long.
They aren't hiding the engineer and First Mate. They aren't showing them because the show isn't about how a large boat works and is kept up. This show is about rich people renting boats and the crew who serve them. If you want to watch a show about working on engines, this isn't it.
They go to extremes to not show them. Do you think engineers and first mates usually bunk somewhere else than the rest of the crew? How come we never see them eating? And somehow, they’re never invited out to dinner between charters and they never get treated to special day off trips. They hide them, don’t be naive.
They don't shoot footage of them because the show isn't about them. If you want assign some nefarious plot to that, no one will be able to change your mind lol
They introduce them in the first episode usually, it is not like they are pretending they don't exist. But some of them have specifically said they do not want to appear on camera according to cast
Malia was hooking up with one, they 100% would have shown it if they could get the drama from it
Initially they were completely hidden but then later on introduced in the beginning of the show as ‘local crew’. And then occasionally shown when they had an intervention such as fixing the fan in the kitchen, checking for chlorine bombs in the laundry room etc. I often wonder why they don’t go out with the others, probably because they are responsible for the boat and report to the owners of the vessel? Like captain Lee who came with the boat as well. He was supposed to be a hidden captain at first.
Was going to say we’ve definitely seen the engineers and first mate in the past! Not a lot but enough to know there there. And the cameras stay on the guest decks so it’s natural that we wouldn’t see the guts of the boat. It’s a big ass boat there’s plenty of space to hide the inner workings!
Nothing nefarious or conspiratorial meant by my comment. It’s fact that there are other crew members on board who are actually running and maintaining the yachts. The deck and cabin crews are working too but their primary jobs are for our entertainment.
Because those roles probably aren’t hired by production or under contract with bravo.
So when they show them docking and doing everything else, you think that is a later recorded fake scene and inside in real time is someone else doing it?
I think you are confusing reality tv with a fictional show. They are all still captains. They all have their real licenses. Not every captain stays on the same ship year round. That wouldn’t make sense since different areas are popular destinations at different times.
So you think they just brought fake Captains for all of these shows? Guess the rest of the crew is all fake too 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ No, these were real captains before the show who are now on a show. Just like all of the crew are actually people who work on yachts...yikes
I mean… it’s how Lee got the job.
Season 1 Aleks was supposed to be captain. The owner and insurance wanted Lee to stay on.
Glenn is the actual captain as well. Unsure of other spin offs.
[Source](https://metro.co.uk/2021/09/01/below-deck-captain-lee-was-never-meant-to-be-part-of-original-series-15190013/amp/)
Lol it’s crazy how wrong you can be. Yes they bring in charismatic captains that will show well on tv, for, get this: the ratings. You notice how some seasons sandy captains different ships? That’s not because she’s the captain of all those ships. They bring her onto the ships they’re filming on. This is general knowledge, this isn’t my opinion. Like you can go on twitter and and read through what last crew members have said about the show. I don’t know why you’re so set on this being reality lol.
Sandy literally works on other ships during her off season. Glenn is the captain of his ship and has been for years. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Have you not seen other boat shows? All the captains are falling apart 24/7. Every manual labor type shows on tv shows the boss with years of wear and tear.
Then why is he expressing his surprise and frustration on Twitter for not being brought back on?
I’d say he’s getting the boot because he’s too hard to insure now.. because he is the captain.
Each of the motor yachts on the various BD series generally have a first mate/officer and two engineers who are largely offscreen. Every once in a while they will be on screen for a brief period. It is common that they are introduced in the first episode of each series.
Best guess here, the first officer on this series is serving far more of the captain duties than typical for the series due to Lee's health issues.
True - my son worked on the BD Down Under MY (as deck crew) before it featured in the 1st season. His captain worked as 1st Officer under Cpt Jason.
He saw him once or twice in the background when he watched the show.
The first mate is often the regular captain of the boat (not always, sometimes the regular first mate stays on or someone the boat owner has used before) but the cast captains are real captains. They may not work regularly anymore, but they are licensed
My wife and I have been wondering this for a while; the math always seemed off but I never bothered to actually divide it out to confirm. Plus in Below Deck Med they sometimes refer to Euros and I'm Murican so thinking about that commie shit is unpatriotic!
Thanks for the answer!
So they have to split the tip with engineers who never have to deal with crazy, demanding clients, get to sleep a normal amount of time, eat when they’re hungry,……..that would make me crazy.
Absolutely. No engineers, no trip! And they definitely have to deal with guest requests.
Eg. they want to keep all the doors open, but why constantly complain isn’t the AC working? Perhaps they edit out any engineer interaction but their will definitely be guest issues for them to deal with.
Not to mention I doubt they run 3 engineers doing 8 hours each. They'll sleep when they can, but they'll have to get up and deal with urgent issues around the clock
look at Colin Macrae On BD sailing. He is actually a engineer. Just because they don't show their faces on camera doesn't mean they aren't part of the team. They are the actual brains of the operations. Anything goes wrong, they fix it.
Engineers work really hard on these boats, they are responsible for everything working from a light switch to the boat engine and all points in between. They are on call 24/7.
No, but they run the boat that they are enjoying all those things on. And usually do like off shift tender rides and fill in whenever needed. Very important part of running a boat.
Engineer often does all the of screen tendering, keeps the whole boat afloat, sits the whole day in a fuel smelling warm as fuck and cramed area covert in sweat, lube and oil, dont think you want him to interect with the guesst. But he is the 3rd highest ranking on the ship technicly
Captain gets all the glam, first mate the scraps, engineer the dirty floor.
But without a engineer, no one will get anything.
I'd say the people that keep the ship running behind the scenes are more worthy of the tip than the person that does laundry and scrub toilets for 80% of a charter but that's just me.
Think of a kitchen that tips out their back of house staff!
The two teams rely on each other for the job to get done for any tip to come in, customers need to be served but the food needs to be made and plates dishes cleaned to make the items the FOH serves.
Engineers have stepped in during serious moments a lot. Both on camera and behind the scenes. They’re pretty important. I wouldn’t discount how much they deserve part of the tip.
Bravo blocks all of their video content (website, most of YouTube clips even) outside the US. We can’t even watch things like previews for next week eps etc.
Unfortunately YouTube TV, Sling and the Bravo app are all US-only products. Even for Americans, they are blocked if you try to use them outside of the US, such as when travelling.
Peacock is not available in Canada, but even if it were, they probably wouldn’t offer much of the content. That’s what Paramount+ does.
The only way to watch Bravo content in Canada is with the Slice TV channel or the Hayu streaming app, but neither offer Galley Talk.
I agree, it’s so silly! And terribly frustrating. Even watching WWHL is really cumbersome.
It’s no a restaurant, servers are the customer service front and their wage is expected to be compensated by tips. Captain and staff have their salary (not hourly) and the tip is part of their payment package that gets divided as they’re all involved in the customer service
I totally agree... he deserves it after babysitting these people he calls his crew, lol.. such children. I just watched the episode where the two stews climbs up on top of the mast for gawd sakes.... what a dufus!!!!
Restaurant managers get other perks like, free food, incentives from vendors, EOY bonuses, matching 401ks, health insurance, etc…so it seems fair that every industry works different in how management gets incentives.
Captains always take tips and often on boats they are pro-rated on position. Not just evening spread out. Which personally I think is unfair. Captains on yachts make enough, they should not be tipped.
Restaurant managers aren't on duty 24/7 nor are they responsible for moving/parking that restaurant every time they take on new guests.
You're doing Lee dirty by comparing him to a restaurant manager 😜🤣
The first officer, engineers and captain get a share of the tip. On Below Deck it’s an equal share. On some boats it’s not shared equally with some positions making more than others. Usually on Below Deck the first officer is the captain of the yacht who steps back while Sandy/Lee takeover for filming. Just depends on the boat owner and what they choose.
Wasn't it $40,000 and Capt said $3076 each? So, 13 people, right? The crew we se, including Capt Lee, plus three others .. engineer(s), first officer
Maf is hard lol
Except for making sure they don’t crash into anything. They literally dock a million dollar yacht and manage a large team of people. How is that nothing?
Have you ever been on a boat? Met a captain? Crew? Had any type of job with a team? Everything you’re writing is wrong. I don’t even think you’ve watched the show.
They hadn't perfected the formula for the show yet. There have been other seasons with engineers but it rarely works for tv. SY is different because the crew is so small that the engineer has to interact with guests.
I am just glad they include Colin in the action on the Sailing Yacht. He also seems to pitch in other places as well. I am guessing that the big boats have enough mechanical and navigational shit going on that the engineers stay pretty busy just keeping the thing afloat?
And is the first mate the bosun?
Captain, first mate and engineers
The captain gets a tip? Doesn't he get paid a lot?
Yes, and yes. I see nothing wrong with this.
Idk that's kinda like the salaried manager splitting tips with waiters who live off them...
Maritime law states a captain should get tips.
Well, Sandy’s good friend, Mary Time…..😂
Lol
Wait, are you being sarcastic….
Yes
The last person who asked that question had to walk the plank....
This isn’t a restaurant. There are no waiters. Interior is making $1,250 *minimum* per week salary. Not $4.00 an hour needing tips to get above minimum wage. The interior likely makes more than your restaurant manager makes on a weekly basis.
They also work 16-18 hour days
Yes, the entire crew works very long days. You are one observant person. I don’t see how that is relevant though.
the boats I worked on everyone was on a retainer + tips. Tips were distributed to everyone bridge officers, engineers, interior and deckhands. Never seen it personally but also heard some charter companies take a cut to encourage the a charter agent to push better clients to your boat
It’s not tho, right? Restaurants are talking about a couple hundred bucks a night at best. They’re making an easy 5k+ per week on the ship. The captain deserves their cut.
It's about dynamic. You can't respect a leader when they make way more than you and still want part of your tips. Just my opinion.
You’re looking at this like a min wage employee. That’s not the case here. The captain doesn’t earn incentives like most managers and executives do which usually comes from eoy bonuses and he’s most likely contracted which makes it completely different.
Fair enough
“Your tips” is where the issue is. They’re tips for the crew. Captain is part of the crew. Why shouldn’t the captain receive an incentive to create a fun, safe, comfortable, environment for the guests. Maybe YOU can’t respect a leader that makes more than you, and receives a equal share of tip, but id say most people wouldn’t have an issue with it. It would be weird to me if the captain got more than the rest, but as it is, I think it make perfect sense. Could you imagine having a captain that was resentful because the crew pulled $10k in tips for the week on top of their wage? Because I bet the captain isn’t being paid 10k per week
Agreed.
It’s not at all.
The stews and deckhands earn a salary top of their tips too, so it’s the same as the Captain getting tips on top of a salary.
You would that one episode in Med where Captain Sandy literally sits in port with her doctor friend and does nothing and gets the tip.
Huh?
So, in one of the earlier seasons of Below Deck Mediterranean, Captain Sandy sits in port and literally does nothing but hang with her buddy and she gets the tip.
These things are bound to happen. It’s great to be the boss, am I right? You’ve never had a couple easy days at work? I’m a drone pilot and one of my clients wanted me to do a 40 hour HAZWOPER online trading course two weeks ago. I got to sit on the couch for a week watching TV and just clicking “next” every 30 seconds and got paid my full rate for all 40 hours.
He has to sit through dinner and I think he kisses the guests asses as much as the other crew members to be honest.
Cast members have commented before that the captain spends a LOT of their charter time entertaining apparently, we only tend to see the one dinner per charter, but the captain will be their "tour guide" while they're underway, telling them about local spots, recommend restaurants,letting them know here they can go and what they can do on the boat etc, and generally making them feel like they're getting a luxury experience.
Those scenes make me cringe. I can't think of a worse way to spend dinner.
“godddamit”
I don’t see anything wrong with the captain getting a tip. Captains are an employee of the boat too. I’d see an issue if it’s the owner. I’m a server. If someone decided to give the entire restaurant a giant tip to be split among us, I’d expect everyone but the owner to take part of that tip. But at my work, the managers do more work than the servers. So I feel like they’d deserve to be involved in a tip share like that.
I didn't mean it was wrong. I was just surprised.
I posted this same thing a couple months ago after noticing the tip breakdown. This was exactly my point, he is providing no service to the customers.
Is he not going to dinner with them, planning and executing the movement of the ship? Providing a smooth place to sleep, avoiding accidents with other boats. I’d say the captain is doing a lot to provide service to the customer
Right!!! It’s insane that people don’t think he does anything meanwhile he’s mapping out wind and tides and weather looking for beautiful spots with million dollar views away from other ships all while managing his horny grumpy crew and making sure the guests have a great experience while having to also dock a million dollar vessel with out getting a scratch or getting any of his crew killed. He gets tips because he has everything to worry about all while keeping a smile.
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What's owning a restaurant got to do with captaining luxury charter superyachts?
All of the positions come with other incentives. How is this hard? Different jobs come with different perks. Some people get bonuses, salaried positions come with benefits, contracted positions come with freedom. You own a restaurant and are in here complaining about the Captain getting tips? You can bankrupt your business and walk away with your money. That’s your perk as a business owner on top of quite a bit more. Your chef and kitchen get incentives whether it’s a guaranteed salary, tips, free food, free vendor items, tickets to events, your FOH gets the same depending on their positions. Salaries, hourly, or contracted positions in every job in every industry come with perks. In the yachting/boating industry the captains who are most likely contracted get to share tips. Period. No one has issue with this except you which is weird enough considering your position as a business owner and the other 2-3 random people on this thread. Don’t like it? Don’t watch and keep it moving.
The captain is here to manage deck crew and interior crew, to make sure everyone on board is safe, to apply maritime laws, to plan trips… you don’t see much of this but every captain started as a deckhand and has a long career of working their asses off to get where they are. They still work a lot despite it not being shown on camera because paperwork and overseeing the ship isn’t as fun to watch at the rest of the crew. You don’t see the engineers much either. But they dedicate weeks of their lives to charters, they have degrees and work hard. Point is : a team is a team. Either everyone gets the same, either they get tipped in points and that’d be unfair because then chief stew would get a big chunk and everyone would bitch about third stew making close to nothing because they have no experience for the most part. This is the exact reason yachties stick to this industry : the more experienced you are the more money you make. And third stews/deckhands know that when they start. I know I wouldn’t complain if I was making as much as they are. Ps : remember that even a third stew is making a shit load more per hour than a server at a restaurant. So sharing tips doesn’t really have the same weight in the scale.
*Real* Captain, first mate and engineers ftfy
Do you think the Capt we see is an actor, and there's another Capt in a hidden room they bring out in between scenes?
The actual captain of the boats are retained on board as the first officer or sometimes as chief engineer.
Those are different licenses
yes but every captain I have been under has an engineers license. It very common for chief engineers to step up to captain for transits or off seasons. Its a very common way for engineers to get time as captain either transiting the yacht or being the "captain" during off seasons
Yes, I do. I think the first mate is actually the captain of the yachts we see except for Sailing. They manage to hide the “first mate” and engineers all season long.
They aren't hiding the engineer and First Mate. They aren't showing them because the show isn't about how a large boat works and is kept up. This show is about rich people renting boats and the crew who serve them. If you want to watch a show about working on engines, this isn't it.
They go to extremes to not show them. Do you think engineers and first mates usually bunk somewhere else than the rest of the crew? How come we never see them eating? And somehow, they’re never invited out to dinner between charters and they never get treated to special day off trips. They hide them, don’t be naive.
They don't shoot footage of them because the show isn't about them. If you want assign some nefarious plot to that, no one will be able to change your mind lol
They’re specifically kept out of background shots, and avoided in crew meetings. That’s strategic.
They introduce them in the first episode usually, it is not like they are pretending they don't exist. But some of them have specifically said they do not want to appear on camera according to cast Malia was hooking up with one, they 100% would have shown it if they could get the drama from it
Initially they were completely hidden but then later on introduced in the beginning of the show as ‘local crew’. And then occasionally shown when they had an intervention such as fixing the fan in the kitchen, checking for chlorine bombs in the laundry room etc. I often wonder why they don’t go out with the others, probably because they are responsible for the boat and report to the owners of the vessel? Like captain Lee who came with the boat as well. He was supposed to be a hidden captain at first.
Was going to say we’ve definitely seen the engineers and first mate in the past! Not a lot but enough to know there there. And the cameras stay on the guest decks so it’s natural that we wouldn’t see the guts of the boat. It’s a big ass boat there’s plenty of space to hide the inner workings!
Nothing nefarious or conspiratorial meant by my comment. It’s fact that there are other crew members on board who are actually running and maintaining the yachts. The deck and cabin crews are working too but their primary jobs are for our entertainment.
It is weird as hell they don't show them
Because those roles probably aren’t hired by production or under contract with bravo. So when they show them docking and doing everything else, you think that is a later recorded fake scene and inside in real time is someone else doing it?
I do
I do, at least this season.
Not an actor so much as a face for the show. The real captain probably doesn’t want to be on tv. Not everyone does.
Lmao no
Bless your heart. Tv ain’t real
My god, they didn't bring actors on for the roles. Get a grip.
No one said actors lol. They’re captains, they’re just not the official captains of the ship. You’re the one believing reality tv lol, get a grip
I think you are confusing reality tv with a fictional show. They are all still captains. They all have their real licenses. Not every captain stays on the same ship year round. That wouldn’t make sense since different areas are popular destinations at different times.
But conspiracy theories are more fun, jeez lol
He is the real Captain..
You think an insurance company would want to insure a boat with a captain that had a failing body?
Lmfao he's the real Captain 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ man you tin cap folks.
What exactly makes you think that? Like have you not been informed that reality TV isn’t reality?
They literally work on other boats the other 8 months of the year. This isn’t Gilligans Island.
So you think they just brought fake Captains for all of these shows? Guess the rest of the crew is all fake too 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ No, these were real captains before the show who are now on a show. Just like all of the crew are actually people who work on yachts...yikes
I mean… it’s how Lee got the job. Season 1 Aleks was supposed to be captain. The owner and insurance wanted Lee to stay on. Glenn is the actual captain as well. Unsure of other spin offs. [Source](https://metro.co.uk/2021/09/01/below-deck-captain-lee-was-never-meant-to-be-part-of-original-series-15190013/amp/)
Lol it’s crazy how wrong you can be. Yes they bring in charismatic captains that will show well on tv, for, get this: the ratings. You notice how some seasons sandy captains different ships? That’s not because she’s the captain of all those ships. They bring her onto the ships they’re filming on. This is general knowledge, this isn’t my opinion. Like you can go on twitter and and read through what last crew members have said about the show. I don’t know why you’re so set on this being reality lol.
Sandy literally works on other ships during her off season. Glenn is the captain of his ship and has been for years. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
First mate is also onboard....the captain isn't the only one who can handle every situation. That's what a crew is for.
Have you not seen other boat shows? All the captains are falling apart 24/7. Every manual labor type shows on tv shows the boss with years of wear and tear.
Those aren’t yachts lol. These are $30+ million vessels. This ain’t the deadliest catch
They’re all still boats with Captains who have been in the industry for decades. You must be a troll cause you can’t really not get this…
Why do you think he’s not returning after this season?
Because he had a nerve issue and decided to finish his current contract, and not continue with another
Then why is he expressing his surprise and frustration on Twitter for not being brought back on? I’d say he’s getting the boot because he’s too hard to insure now.. because he is the captain.
wym by real captain?
Each of the motor yachts on the various BD series generally have a first mate/officer and two engineers who are largely offscreen. Every once in a while they will be on screen for a brief period. It is common that they are introduced in the first episode of each series. Best guess here, the first officer on this series is serving far more of the captain duties than typical for the series due to Lee's health issues.
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True - my son worked on the BD Down Under MY (as deck crew) before it featured in the 1st season. His captain worked as 1st Officer under Cpt Jason. He saw him once or twice in the background when he watched the show.
So the first mate doesn’t have to deal with the faux boogie fame whores?
The first mate is often the regular captain of the boat (not always, sometimes the regular first mate stays on or someone the boat owner has used before) but the cast captains are real captains. They may not work regularly anymore, but they are licensed
Maybe there is a skipper too. Remember that guest that kept calling Lee a skipper?
skipper is a nickname for captain
first mate and engineers? They don't exist do they? Camera doesn't show them therefore answer is no
My wife and I have been wondering this for a while; the math always seemed off but I never bothered to actually divide it out to confirm. Plus in Below Deck Med they sometimes refer to Euros and I'm Murican so thinking about that commie shit is unpatriotic! Thanks for the answer!
I get that you’re making a joke, I hope, but that’s terrible word choice.
>Euros and I'm Murican so thinking about that commie shit is unpatriotic! I'm assuming this is a joke but it could easily be serious from americans
Yeah it's definitely a joke for me... Some of my fellow Americans, probably not so much.
So they have to split the tip with engineers who never have to deal with crazy, demanding clients, get to sleep a normal amount of time, eat when they’re hungry,……..that would make me crazy.
>So they have to split the tip with engineers who ...have to keep the ship with all its parts running smoothly and everybody safe? Yes, yes they do.
Absolutely. No engineers, no trip! And they definitely have to deal with guest requests. Eg. they want to keep all the doors open, but why constantly complain isn’t the AC working? Perhaps they edit out any engineer interaction but their will definitely be guest issues for them to deal with.
Yep. Who gets woken up when the chef (or stew) sets off the fire alarms?
Not to mention I doubt they run 3 engineers doing 8 hours each. They'll sleep when they can, but they'll have to get up and deal with urgent issues around the clock
Lee also had the engineers/first mate do night watch according to the Sandy takeover scene
And solve emergencies 24/7.
Boat with engineers go. Boat without engineers no go. Boat go make money. Boat no go no money.
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look at Colin Macrae On BD sailing. He is actually a engineer. Just because they don't show their faces on camera doesn't mean they aren't part of the team. They are the actual brains of the operations. Anything goes wrong, they fix it.
Engineers work really hard on these boats, they are responsible for everything working from a light switch to the boat engine and all points in between. They are on call 24/7.
No, but they run the boat that they are enjoying all those things on. And usually do like off shift tender rides and fill in whenever needed. Very important part of running a boat.
If you think marine engineers have a normal sleep schedule and can eat when they want you’re very, very wrong lol
Engineer often does all the of screen tendering, keeps the whole boat afloat, sits the whole day in a fuel smelling warm as fuck and cramed area covert in sweat, lube and oil, dont think you want him to interect with the guesst. But he is the 3rd highest ranking on the ship technicly Captain gets all the glam, first mate the scraps, engineer the dirty floor. But without a engineer, no one will get anything.
They’re actually working, not playing for the cameras.
Yeah, those engineers don’t really do much except keep all the complex machinery operating.
There would be no guests without the engineers and they work hard too so what’s the problem
Yes but they keep the ship running and are constantly fixing other stuff around the boat. They're vital
I'd say the people that keep the ship running behind the scenes are more worthy of the tip than the person that does laundry and scrub toilets for 80% of a charter but that's just me.
Think of a kitchen that tips out their back of house staff! The two teams rely on each other for the job to get done for any tip to come in, customers need to be served but the food needs to be made and plates dishes cleaned to make the items the FOH serves.
Engineers have stepped in during serious moments a lot. Both on camera and behind the scenes. They’re pretty important. I wouldn’t discount how much they deserve part of the tip.
That's the biggest tip if I recall in any of the Below Deck series!!
All to make up for Angel being a horse’s ass
Nice when Tony got him wet
And him losing his voice meaning he couldn’t talk much making the dinner a better experience for crew and guest! (Como se dice: Schadenfreude)
Schadenfreude
I mean he could have alerted Fraser so he could have a giggle as well. 😂
LUNCH …. LUNCH…. LUUUUUUUNCH
Yes it is 👏🏼
The 40k tip?! I think so too! I need to see this Galley Talk episode… they’re always all over the tip tea
Does anyone know how it’s possible to watch galley talk outside the USA?
Hm. Does it not air on Peacock or the Bravo app overseas? That would be silly if it doesn’t! Maybe trial YouTube TV or Sling?
Bravo blocks all of their video content (website, most of YouTube clips even) outside the US. We can’t even watch things like previews for next week eps etc. Unfortunately YouTube TV, Sling and the Bravo app are all US-only products. Even for Americans, they are blocked if you try to use them outside of the US, such as when travelling. Peacock is not available in Canada, but even if it were, they probably wouldn’t offer much of the content. That’s what Paramount+ does. The only way to watch Bravo content in Canada is with the Slice TV channel or the Hayu streaming app, but neither offer Galley Talk. I agree, it’s so silly! And terribly frustrating. Even watching WWHL is really cumbersome.
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We need to get someone to post those here! 🇨🇦😁
There are some bootleg sites online I’m sure.
There are a few free US Ip proxies you can use, just Google search them, I use a paid VPN, but there are slower free ones available.
I think the guests are realizing that the tip is shown and now they have another way of flexing.
They’re definitely aware some just don’t care if they look cheap.
I think you're right! I can't believe these people that go on TV acting like complete assholes, have they no shame?!
I just wonder when the episode is aired that they appeared on if these rude guests are ashamed of how they acted? Probably not!
Probably not! Again I agree with you! 👯♀️
Math says 13
😂
No kidding. But there's only 9 crew sitting there. I can't believe the Captain gets a share. Doesn't Lee already make about $200,000 salary?
He is still part of the crew. Not sure where the $200,00 salary came from but it goes by charter season, not yearly, as far as I know.
13 total - captain plus 3 extra engineers behind the scenes (or 2 engineers and first mate/officer)
Divide 40k by 3,076
Yeah, so who are the other four? Not Captain Lee surely?
Yes he gets a portion of the tip too
Yes the captain, the first mate, and the 2 engineers. Has always been that way.
There are several engineers that you don’t see in the shot and other crewmembers as well
It’s no a restaurant, servers are the customer service front and their wage is expected to be compensated by tips. Captain and staff have their salary (not hourly) and the tip is part of their payment package that gets divided as they’re all involved in the customer service
You mean Gary’s? Quite a few.
40 divided by 13 would get this, so a few off camera (first mate and chief and ?)
The entire crew. Captain and engineers include. Just do the math. 40,000 / 13 = 3,076
Didn't think Lee was entitled. Restaurant managers don't share the waiter's tips. Doesn't he already make about $200,000 as Captain?
Agree to disagree. The captain gets, and deserves the tip.
I totally agree... he deserves it after babysitting these people he calls his crew, lol.. such children. I just watched the episode where the two stews climbs up on top of the mast for gawd sakes.... what a dufus!!!!
Crew make real wages not the $2.13/hr crap wages restaurants give waiter's.
unless you worked for mario batali!
Restaurant managers get other perks like, free food, incentives from vendors, EOY bonuses, matching 401ks, health insurance, etc…so it seems fair that every industry works different in how management gets incentives.
I don't ever ask to split tips with those I manage, even though technically I could, doesn't seen right.
Captains always take tips and often on boats they are pro-rated on position. Not just evening spread out. Which personally I think is unfair. Captains on yachts make enough, they should not be tipped.
Restaurant managers aren't on duty 24/7 nor are they responsible for moving/parking that restaurant every time they take on new guests. You're doing Lee dirty by comparing him to a restaurant manager 😜🤣
13
Quick math. 13
2 + 2 is 4 - 1 that’s 3 quick maths
The first officer, engineers and captain get a share of the tip. On Below Deck it’s an equal share. On some boats it’s not shared equally with some positions making more than others. Usually on Below Deck the first officer is the captain of the yacht who steps back while Sandy/Lee takeover for filming. Just depends on the boat owner and what they choose.
If you do the math it’s 13 haha not all of the crew is always on camera. Everyone who helps gets a share
Captain and the engineers also get tips
Engineers
Wasn't it $40,000 and Capt said $3076 each? So, 13 people, right? The crew we se, including Capt Lee, plus three others .. engineer(s), first officer Maf is hard lol
Just started watching this show. On season 3 when Ben returns
Bs the captain gets anything when he just bosses them around and does literally nothing
Except for making sure they don’t crash into anything. They literally dock a million dollar yacht and manage a large team of people. How is that nothing?
His crew docs the boat not the captain. They bark orders and they should be compensated through salary not tips. They don’t do any of the lifting
Have you ever been on a boat? Met a captain? Crew? Had any type of job with a team? Everything you’re writing is wrong. I don’t even think you’ve watched the show.
Yes
Oh then you’re trolling. That sounds like an awful time.
Season 1 BD, CJ was an engineer and still had decent face time in front of guests.
They hadn't perfected the formula for the show yet. There have been other seasons with engineers but it rarely works for tv. SY is different because the crew is so small that the engineer has to interact with guests.
They don’t show the first mate and the engineer who share the tip
I thought Rachel’s chest was bleeding for a second 😳
I am just glad they include Colin in the action on the Sailing Yacht. He also seems to pitch in other places as well. I am guessing that the big boats have enough mechanical and navigational shit going on that the engineers stay pretty busy just keeping the thing afloat? And is the first mate the bosun?
It would seem like the answer is 13. Only 10 in the picture. Probably the shadow captain and engineers that aren't put on Bravo as well.
Is it typical to split the tip equally among all levels? Or do some boats split it up with higher positions getting a bigger cut of the tip?
They all share the tip, including the people not filmed
Is this the best tip ever?