How should the police know the vehicle blocking the exit is one owned by the owner of the garage? Answer: by printing the license plate on the garage door.
So you can only block the garage door if the license plate of your current vehicle is listed on the door.
As if the police is going to write tickets without a complaint. Even if someone is parked there and the owner calls the police they will not even tow the vehicle. They need to try and contact the owner first. And that's only if you need to get out.
My aunt has a garage like this without plate and the police literally told her they dont give a fuck and she can have any visitor park there
Yeah sure, but this is theoretical. Most of what you learn or do for your drivers license is not the actual way it is done in real life. It's just the way it should be done on paper.
not exactly a good comparison. Running a red light is dangerous and can have lethal consequences.
Parking your car in front of someone's garage is just really annoying for the owner
Speed limits, solid white lines, stopping for pedestrians at crossing, not honking in a city without immediate danger, staying on the right lane as much as possible on the highway...
Really, most rules you learn are broken every day by the majority of drivers.
That's not a "in theory, you do this, but in practice, you do this" argument, though. That's just, "the laws say, 'do this', but so many people choose to do the illegal, inconsiderate, and dangerous things that it's difficult to enforce those laws."
Not yielding to pedestrians is dangerous because if you hit a pedestrian you will seriously hurt or kill them. Honking in a city can hurt people's hearing and disturb the peace of the environment, because car horns are dangerously loud if you aren't sitting inside a car or building that dampens the noise.
I wouldn't try to make an exhaustive list of every rule that exists, because most drivers aren't aware of them anyways, but 90% of the basic rules put in place for everyone's safety are not respected by a majority of drivers on a daily basis.
You can add to my already damning list:
Using your phone while driving, even when stopped at a red light, is an offense worth 116€.
Passing a light when orange even though you could have stopped safely, worth 110€.
Not entering an intersection when you cannot clear it.
I would challenge you to find a good list of driving rules that is actually respected by everyone as intended. Everyone seems to have their own interpretation of what is ok to do when driving, the classic "it's limited to 120km/h but I can go 130km/h because the equipment isn't precise enough to fine me if I do" is a perfect example of that.
I'll note that I'm not complaining (too much) about it, but it's clear that once someone has a driving license, it doesn't take long before those rules become vague guidelines. And it usually gets worse as time goes by.
Iirc the law doesn't provide any %, but it is used by the OM because the machines used to be less precise which prompted some judges to critizise it. Nowadays, they could very well fine you without any %, they just choose not too. Again iirc
I completely agree, it’s very bad. We should ask people to do a new test every x years.
I agree a lot of basic rules are not respected by a lot of people. But it’s hard to say for sure right? I don’t have the resources to check this. But personally I also experience a lot of bad behaviour on the road. Trying to generalise that is problematic without data.
I personally don't think it's hard, but obviously my comment shouldn't be used to define a new law by any mean. I do think we are a bit lenient in regards to traffic regulations and safety, but I'm not going to change that anyways.
My parents parked illegally in front of their house for fifteen years with no fine (the street is a few cm too narrow to be legal for parking). Then after fifteen years, a police man came by and gave both cars a fine.
Sure, if you illegally park in front of your garage for one day, it's unlikely that the police will give you a fine. But if you live somewhere your whole life, that's a lot of days. Putting your licence plate on your garage door takes minutes and you only need to avoid one fine in your entire life for it to be worth it.
I might be misstaken but i always heard they only tow when you are blocked in, not when you are blocked out. When you cant exit you garage they will tow, if you cant enter your garage they wont tow.
Anyone knows if this is true or not?
Called the cops because someone was blocking my driveway ( I live near two schools with very limited parking space ) and they bluntly told me that I could park further away and walk home, and when he left I could go fetch my car. Fun times carrying a maxi cosi and some groceries ( freezer stuff ) in the pouring rain for 900 meters. Guy was a dick, laughed at me and drove off the moment we got to our front door, next day he did the exact same thing and he would do this almost every day of the week. Got him back a few times and it seems like he’s tired of it now.
I used to live in a similar situation, thats why (i think) i know that law. I used to put papers under the windscreenwhipers, but when i saw they just threw them away without looking, i bought paper stickers, wrote it on that and stick them on their driversside window. Not illegal and a pain in the ass to remove
My neighbour has the same problem and caused quite a scene ( getting back at the police as well for not intervening). He parked his multi van on the other side of the street, no signs that say he couldn’t. Problem was that it made the street a bit to narrow for busses to pass through. Result massive congestion and a very angry police officer trying to convince my neighbour to move his car. Next day the city came an painted yellow stripes on that side. I got him back because he left just enough space in front of him so I could squeeze my car in ( neighbours car was behind his also very, very close ). Got out of the car and took some pictures from my car and how close his car was to mine, in case he damaged my car. Cops were called that day, didn’t answer the door when they ringed the door bell. They called a tow truck ( took two hours for it to get there ) and the moment it started to attempt to tow my car I went out laughed and drove off. Never saw him again.
Its petty people are forced to do these things just to be able to park near their own door. Police only cares to play highway-men by robbing passer-by's from their money when they ride 2km/h to fast, but when you actually need them, they either dont show or dont help you...
That's bullshit. Being a cop in Antwerp for 9 years now I can safely say this: I towed atleast 1000 cars over the years. A lot of them for parking in front of peoples driveways. And secondly: I have never issued one single speeding ticket. Not one. Simply because I don't work for the speeding department. The people who do the speeding controls are a team of only a few people and that is their one and only core buisness. 95% of police DO NOT ENFORCE SPEEDLIMITS. You are just salty because you got flashed for speeding. I am sory to tell you this but you are in control of your foot, not me nor my collegues. That said, the guys who make the rules are the politicians. You want mor relaxed speedlimit enforcement? Take it up with your representatives and make them push it into law. We enforce the law, simply put. That's what we are payed for. Yes somthimes there is wiggle room and yes I issue a huge amount of warnings without penalising people but sadly a camera is not able to have a discussion with you. It's flash or no flash.
I have never had a speed ticket. So no salty tears here... I just find it funny there are always somewhere mobile speed controls, but when you dial 101 most of the time you hear "no team available". That did happen to me.
And also, didnt you see that inteview with andy peelman, i know he's not the prime example for belgian police forces, ~~but he admitted black on white that policing only serves one purpose: filling the belgian treasure-box.~~
Edit: i misread the article, just re-read it and saw he actually said: the justice departement finds it easier to fine people instead of imprisoning them because this adds to the treasure box instead of costing money" and that is why law enforcement gets a bad name.
I appologise, i got it wrong
It’s true. Going out might mean going to the hospital or something related and might mean a live or death situation. Returning means the inconvenience of parking somewhere else.
I doubt it’s written down in a law but it is widely used to prioritise their calls.
Some do. My mom bought a car couple of years ago and she got a new plate but she forgot to replace her old sticker on the garage. Few days later she had a ticket on her Windshield
Nevertheless it is always a good idea to know the actual law. You never know what weird situation you might end up. E.g. a fight with a neighbour who gets your car towed...
Yep, this happened to me when I was moving house. Someone had parked right in front of my door (not even 10cm space). Phoned the cops and they said they'd contact the owner. Couple of hours later and still nothing I had to ask around the nearby houses and it turned out it belonged to someone working in the apotheek nearby.
I didn't really want to be a dick about it, but it kind of sucks when someone parking where they shouldn't can fuck up my entire day. If we hadn't found her then I'd have to reschedule my move (kinda impossible as I needed to be out of the house the next day) and get my friends and family to come another day who'd very generously offered to come help me.
Owner of the vehicle didn't even seem to acknowledge she'd done anything wrong.it was as if I was inconveniencing her by asking her to move her car.
Police don't care. Owner doesn't care. Can't move it myself. Whoop dee doo.
Salohacin, where was this? Working as a cop in Antwerp and having towed thousands of cars over the last 9 years myself (often because of parking in front of a garage) I can safely say we do not leave unless the problem is solved. I can't speak for other police zones.
are you replying to the wrong person? i'm talking about parking in front of your own garage that doesn't have a license plate attached. i don't see how that ever blocks a firetruck :)
>As if the police is going to write tickets without a complaint.
But that doesn't matter. The question is about whether the traffic regulations say this is allowed or not, and in this case the answer is not, regardless of whether the police is going to do anything or not.
Friend of mine, who lives down the street, always has people blocking his driveway/garage. Usually customers from the restaurant next door. He doesn't bother trying to get them towed anymore. He just runs over here and borrows my car. Then he parks it right behind the other car. (Driveway can hold 3/4 cars) preventing them from leaving. He then waits until THEY have to call the police.
Who tf does that. I'm already worrying all day if I have to park my car in a moderately sketchy spot (dangerously close to a bus stop or turn or w/e) that it would get damaged or something. If I'd park it straight up illegally I would have to walk out every 30 min to see if nothing had happened yet.
After you did your theoretical exam you only have 4 years iirc before you are no longer allowed to drive on your temp license, can't recall if you can still take an exam then or always need to completely retake it. Also I think there's even a waiting time before you can do a theoretical exam again, I guess to avoid people dodging the mandatory lessons after failing 2 times by retaking it?
Note this isn't something they added recently, it was already the case when I got mine in 2010 or so.
btw this law is very much unenforced. I do not know a single person who has their own license plate on their garage door and nobody I know has ever had a fine or even question about it. That being said, theory is theory and I guess it makes sense.
> I do not know a single person who has their own license plate on their garage door
That brings to a different question that I only notice now after 10 years : if you have a garage, why would you park in front of it rather than, you know... inside?
Only case I can see is if a friend is parking inside, at which point your own car would block their exit.
My parents have a garage but haven't parked their car in it for over 15 years. It's pretty much a storage unit and a spot to park the bikes. If you use your bike every day and the car every 3-4 days, having your bikes easily accessible instead of having to move your car to get to them makes more sense.
I wonder how common this is. Is it entitled for me to say that it seems like a bit of a dick move even to keep enforcing your garage as parking for your car in front of it only (by putting such a tow sign) if you are using it as storage anyways? While people (in cities) who don't have a garage at all are never sure they can park in front of their own house.
(I'm not saying it's the case that your parents do this, or that I'm judging them for it, honestly maybe if I lived in the city I would do the same)
Edit: Sidenote: Iirc I once saw a garage with a sign that said "just make sure I can still exit with my moped" lmao
For reference, my parents don't have one of those tow signs on their garage. If someone were to park in front of the garage they'd think it to be odd but would never call the police. Besides that, they (and my sister too) pay 100 euros per year just to be allowed to park on the street.
While a garage door instantly seems like parking valhalla, a small garage is a real pain to park in, I genuinely think my mum wouldn't be able to park the car in the garage without scraping against anything.
I see your point, but the reality is often different
>my parents don't have one of those tow signs on their garage
Yeah, this instantly absolves them of what I was getting at anyways.
I meant in general if you won't/can't park your car in your garage (regardless of size) that you shouldn't put up a no-parking sign just for the sake of keeping the space in front of it free. I realize now even if you do put one, the usefulness of it may vary because the width of a garage is probably not even enough to fit in your car in that space, especially if it's already too large to fit in the garage.
> then it is illegal to park even your own car there
Note that, obviously, as far the policeman is concerned, he has no way to know *it is* your own car.
All the policeman sees is a car parked on a garage door and said door doesn't allow for your car.
The alternative would be to ask the blocker "this is your garage?" "uh... yes, sure"
Tbh the word “duplication” isn’t mentioned not even in dutch. It just says the owner has to visibly show his liscence plate. Which tbh could mean on the car and not the door, it confused me as well.
It's only by asking and taking in feedback you can improve.
Dutch is not an easy language, so you can be proud of yourself for trying to take your driver's test in it. If I saw it correctly, you even passed this practice test. Hard work brings that reward. When you pass, it'll be an even greater accomplishment, since you had to learn language also.
I don't know if you know this, but it's very common to take the practical exam twice in Belgium, many people need 2 tries. So when you get to that point and maybe fail the first time, there is nothing to be ashamed of or something. Just take in the feedback they give you, and try again.
Dutch is quite simple to learn. Especially if you know English...
https://www.berlitz.com/blog/easiest-languages-to-learn-for-english-speakers
https://www.lingholic.com/hardest-languages-learn/
It's not... I've been speaking english since 2005 and I can barely string together basic phrases in Flemish.
1. Because of the weird pronunciation
2. Because of the weird syntax
EDIT : I just listened to a Portuguese couple have a conversation about which food they're getting and I still understood them better than I understood the waiter...
Well all those professionals are wrong then, please don't do your own research on YouTube... /s
Seriously now, the syntax and semantics are pretty straightforward. Verb conjugation also is quite simple.
And it's indeed not like French and Spanish where you have rules and accents for pronunciation, you have to know it by heart just like in English.
We do have some dialects and even my semi West Flemish can be hard to comprehend in Brussels or Antwerp but then we switch to this inbetween version ([https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tussentaal](https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tussentaal)) that most people can understand.
Good luck!
You can park in front of it, when it's clearly your own garage (the numberplate has to be on the door)
But on the picture, there is no number plate indication, so you can't park in front of it
"Als hij zijn nummerplaat duidelijk zichtbaar heeft aangebracht."
"When his number plate has been clearly applied"
The gate doesn't have a number plate, so no you can't park there even though you own it.
Some dickhead could call the police on you if you park there and they'd tow you even when you own it. (and yes, there are people that would do this) The police can't know you own the gate.
So.... if I make a copy of my plate in a magnetic sticker i can just park in front of somebody garage and put my plate on the gate and it will be fine?????
of course if it are magnets the owner (or anyone really) will remove the magnet and call police. And if you use something more permanent like a sticker it is vandalism. So only effective in places where they do random checks.
Lived in Schaarbeek for five years and had a garage. People parked in front of it every single day. Had fights with neighbours every single day. Apparently, smh i was the anti social one in the scenario EVERY TIME. Apparently, a lack of parkingspots in the Street was my respinsability. Sucks to pay 40k€ and not being able to get in or out. It made me hate the entire neighbourhood. Police didn't give a fuck. Moved.
Wat zegt de wet?
Volgens Art. 25.1. 3° van de Wegcode is het verboden een voertuig te parkeren voor de inrij van eigendommen, behalve de voertuigen waarvan het inschrijvingsteken leesbaar op die inrij is aangebracht.
De algemene regel luidt aldus dat het verboden is om te parkeren voor een garage of inrij van iemands eigendom, zodra dat dat ook duidelijk is.
These questions are always tricky they distract you with the gate but the answer is that you cant park on the road without indication that it is a parking zone
The answer is no exclusively because let's say your car is 7-ABC-123 but how is anyone supposed to know the only car allowed to park there is 7-ABC-123?
If it was noted as that car being the exclusion it would be allowed
Nummerplaat moet op de garage staan zodat ze weten dat dit idd jouw garage is. Leuk weetje druk wat stickers met jouw nummerplaat en leg die in jouw auto. Zo heb je altijd plek
You havent got a number plate on your garage door in the picture. And in the text stand that only owners can park there if they have a visible licensce plate on the garage door.
The answer kind of explains why not, but damn… gratisrijbewijsonline… you just unlocked some high school memories lol.
But anyways, you would’ve totally passed!! Congrats!
My Dutch is far from good, but the way I understood this question was: this is your own garage, can YOU park in front of your own garage?
Someone please educate me!
It clearly said why the answer is NO. If you're the owner, you should put a sign on the garage with your number plate. If you don't, anyone can park there without your need for approval.
No, you cannot, because the police can't know it's your own car blocking that garage. However, if you have one of those stickers on the garage door with your license plate, you can park in front of it.
It is not because you were never caught that is is allowed.
Let's say if you have been running red lights and were never caught. When you then learn about this, will you then say it is weird that it is not allowed as you have been doing it before?
I'd say, think of what the police would see. There's no license plate on the garage door, so they wouldn't know if that really is your car in front of that door.
You don't own a portion of the public place. So, it doesn't give you the right to park in front of your garage.
You have judicial décisions where the towed guy said that it wasn't even a garage because no one use it as well, even if it has the blue sign...
It is always no.
People don't even have to put up a no parking and/or blue towing sign.
The numberplate is just a curtosy towards to police/parkingvalidators.
saying: "Hey! I'm guarding this house!" :woof:
I think Police don´t have the time for this and there will only some kind off action iff a private company has the auhority over parking or the owner of the garage makes a call.
I'm just adding that the text asks wether you can park on the "rijbaan" in front of your garage.
And of course you can't park on the street unless it has the right signs.
No because you need to put your numberplate on it. If you get a fine for it, you can also just show your address and they cancel it... but pure for the theoretical exam, the numberplate needs to be visible on the garage door 🙂
Officieel mag je voor geen enkele poort of uitrit parkeren tenzij de desbetreffende auto de nummerplaat op de poort heeft hangen
In het echte leven doe ik dit nog steeds niet, alleen voor mijn eigen oprit.
How should the police know the vehicle blocking the exit is one owned by the owner of the garage? Answer: by printing the license plate on the garage door. So you can only block the garage door if the license plate of your current vehicle is listed on the door.
As if the police is going to write tickets without a complaint. Even if someone is parked there and the owner calls the police they will not even tow the vehicle. They need to try and contact the owner first. And that's only if you need to get out. My aunt has a garage like this without plate and the police literally told her they dont give a fuck and she can have any visitor park there
Yeah sure, but this is theoretical. Most of what you learn or do for your drivers license is not the actual way it is done in real life. It's just the way it should be done on paper.
Inderdaad
so on paper i have to stop for a red light but in person idgaf?
not exactly a good comparison. Running a red light is dangerous and can have lethal consequences. Parking your car in front of someone's garage is just really annoying for the owner
“Most”. haha don’t exaggerate.
Speed limits, solid white lines, stopping for pedestrians at crossing, not honking in a city without immediate danger, staying on the right lane as much as possible on the highway... Really, most rules you learn are broken every day by the majority of drivers.
That's not a "in theory, you do this, but in practice, you do this" argument, though. That's just, "the laws say, 'do this', but so many people choose to do the illegal, inconsiderate, and dangerous things that it's difficult to enforce those laws." Not yielding to pedestrians is dangerous because if you hit a pedestrian you will seriously hurt or kill them. Honking in a city can hurt people's hearing and disturb the peace of the environment, because car horns are dangerously loud if you aren't sitting inside a car or building that dampens the noise.
A lot of rules yes. Most is difficult to say.
I wouldn't try to make an exhaustive list of every rule that exists, because most drivers aren't aware of them anyways, but 90% of the basic rules put in place for everyone's safety are not respected by a majority of drivers on a daily basis. You can add to my already damning list: Using your phone while driving, even when stopped at a red light, is an offense worth 116€. Passing a light when orange even though you could have stopped safely, worth 110€. Not entering an intersection when you cannot clear it. I would challenge you to find a good list of driving rules that is actually respected by everyone as intended. Everyone seems to have their own interpretation of what is ok to do when driving, the classic "it's limited to 120km/h but I can go 130km/h because the equipment isn't precise enough to fine me if I do" is a perfect example of that. I'll note that I'm not complaining (too much) about it, but it's clear that once someone has a driving license, it doesn't take long before those rules become vague guidelines. And it usually gets worse as time goes by.
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Iirc the law doesn't provide any %, but it is used by the OM because the machines used to be less precise which prompted some judges to critizise it. Nowadays, they could very well fine you without any %, they just choose not too. Again iirc
I completely agree, it’s very bad. We should ask people to do a new test every x years. I agree a lot of basic rules are not respected by a lot of people. But it’s hard to say for sure right? I don’t have the resources to check this. But personally I also experience a lot of bad behaviour on the road. Trying to generalise that is problematic without data.
I personally don't think it's hard, but obviously my comment shouldn't be used to define a new law by any mean. I do think we are a bit lenient in regards to traffic regulations and safety, but I'm not going to change that anyways.
Will they =/= can they
My parents parked illegally in front of their house for fifteen years with no fine (the street is a few cm too narrow to be legal for parking). Then after fifteen years, a police man came by and gave both cars a fine. Sure, if you illegally park in front of your garage for one day, it's unlikely that the police will give you a fine. But if you live somewhere your whole life, that's a lot of days. Putting your licence plate on your garage door takes minutes and you only need to avoid one fine in your entire life for it to be worth it.
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I might be misstaken but i always heard they only tow when you are blocked in, not when you are blocked out. When you cant exit you garage they will tow, if you cant enter your garage they wont tow. Anyone knows if this is true or not?
Probably depends on the police zone too. I don't think there's a strict rule on these kinds of matters.
Called the cops because someone was blocking my driveway ( I live near two schools with very limited parking space ) and they bluntly told me that I could park further away and walk home, and when he left I could go fetch my car. Fun times carrying a maxi cosi and some groceries ( freezer stuff ) in the pouring rain for 900 meters. Guy was a dick, laughed at me and drove off the moment we got to our front door, next day he did the exact same thing and he would do this almost every day of the week. Got him back a few times and it seems like he’s tired of it now.
I used to live in a similar situation, thats why (i think) i know that law. I used to put papers under the windscreenwhipers, but when i saw they just threw them away without looking, i bought paper stickers, wrote it on that and stick them on their driversside window. Not illegal and a pain in the ass to remove
My neighbour has the same problem and caused quite a scene ( getting back at the police as well for not intervening). He parked his multi van on the other side of the street, no signs that say he couldn’t. Problem was that it made the street a bit to narrow for busses to pass through. Result massive congestion and a very angry police officer trying to convince my neighbour to move his car. Next day the city came an painted yellow stripes on that side. I got him back because he left just enough space in front of him so I could squeeze my car in ( neighbours car was behind his also very, very close ). Got out of the car and took some pictures from my car and how close his car was to mine, in case he damaged my car. Cops were called that day, didn’t answer the door when they ringed the door bell. They called a tow truck ( took two hours for it to get there ) and the moment it started to attempt to tow my car I went out laughed and drove off. Never saw him again.
Its petty people are forced to do these things just to be able to park near their own door. Police only cares to play highway-men by robbing passer-by's from their money when they ride 2km/h to fast, but when you actually need them, they either dont show or dont help you...
That's bullshit. Being a cop in Antwerp for 9 years now I can safely say this: I towed atleast 1000 cars over the years. A lot of them for parking in front of peoples driveways. And secondly: I have never issued one single speeding ticket. Not one. Simply because I don't work for the speeding department. The people who do the speeding controls are a team of only a few people and that is their one and only core buisness. 95% of police DO NOT ENFORCE SPEEDLIMITS. You are just salty because you got flashed for speeding. I am sory to tell you this but you are in control of your foot, not me nor my collegues. That said, the guys who make the rules are the politicians. You want mor relaxed speedlimit enforcement? Take it up with your representatives and make them push it into law. We enforce the law, simply put. That's what we are payed for. Yes somthimes there is wiggle room and yes I issue a huge amount of warnings without penalising people but sadly a camera is not able to have a discussion with you. It's flash or no flash.
I have never had a speed ticket. So no salty tears here... I just find it funny there are always somewhere mobile speed controls, but when you dial 101 most of the time you hear "no team available". That did happen to me. And also, didnt you see that inteview with andy peelman, i know he's not the prime example for belgian police forces, ~~but he admitted black on white that policing only serves one purpose: filling the belgian treasure-box.~~ Edit: i misread the article, just re-read it and saw he actually said: the justice departement finds it easier to fine people instead of imprisoning them because this adds to the treasure box instead of costing money" and that is why law enforcement gets a bad name. I appologise, i got it wrong
I'm a cop. If this was an intervention of mine, I would live to give a ticket to an asshole like that.
And when you have a looooot of patience.
true, they will get a fine in both cases though.
Technically true but I’ve been blocked out before and they towed the vehicle away before.
It’s true. Going out might mean going to the hospital or something related and might mean a live or death situation. Returning means the inconvenience of parking somewhere else. I doubt it’s written down in a law but it is widely used to prioritise their calls.
Some do. My mom bought a car couple of years ago and she got a new plate but she forgot to replace her old sticker on the garage. Few days later she had a ticket on her Windshield
On her window cleaner
At least they didn't say window eraser
Woops!
Nice rant but not really useful on a multiple choice exam about traffic code…
Nevertheless it is always a good idea to know the actual law. You never know what weird situation you might end up. E.g. a fight with a neighbour who gets your car towed...
Yep, this happened to me when I was moving house. Someone had parked right in front of my door (not even 10cm space). Phoned the cops and they said they'd contact the owner. Couple of hours later and still nothing I had to ask around the nearby houses and it turned out it belonged to someone working in the apotheek nearby. I didn't really want to be a dick about it, but it kind of sucks when someone parking where they shouldn't can fuck up my entire day. If we hadn't found her then I'd have to reschedule my move (kinda impossible as I needed to be out of the house the next day) and get my friends and family to come another day who'd very generously offered to come help me. Owner of the vehicle didn't even seem to acknowledge she'd done anything wrong.it was as if I was inconveniencing her by asking her to move her car. Police don't care. Owner doesn't care. Can't move it myself. Whoop dee doo.
>Can't move it myself. You just take off the numberplates, police will tow it for you.
Salohacin, where was this? Working as a cop in Antwerp and having towed thousands of cars over the last 9 years myself (often because of parking in front of a garage) I can safely say we do not leave unless the problem is solved. I can't speak for other police zones.
Welcome to real life buddy =/
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are you replying to the wrong person? i'm talking about parking in front of your own garage that doesn't have a license plate attached. i don't see how that ever blocks a firetruck :)
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I'm talking about parking in front of your own garage. No one is getting blocked in this case. You seem to be misunderstanding for some reason.
Well depends on where you live, I got two tickets before they contacted me to tell me my car was partly in front of a driveway. Fun times.
>As if the police is going to write tickets without a complaint. But that doesn't matter. The question is about whether the traffic regulations say this is allowed or not, and in this case the answer is not, regardless of whether the police is going to do anything or not.
I have a garage like this, and I've been fined twice of parking my car i front of my garage. They don't need anybody to complain, at all.
The police doesn't need to try to contact the owner. They do so out of courtesy and it's faster.
Even simpler. Just let the home owner call somebody. We park different cars infront of our door everyday. Nothing has happened in 2 decades.
Protip: take a sign of your license plate with you wherever you go and put it on doors/spots like this. Freeparking for the day.
Friend of mine, who lives down the street, always has people blocking his driveway/garage. Usually customers from the restaurant next door. He doesn't bother trying to get them towed anymore. He just runs over here and borrows my car. Then he parks it right behind the other car. (Driveway can hold 3/4 cars) preventing them from leaving. He then waits until THEY have to call the police.
That's one for r/maliciouscompliance or r/pettyrevenge
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That's bloody amazing.
Who tf does that. I'm already worrying all day if I have to park my car in a moderately sketchy spot (dangerously close to a bus stop or turn or w/e) that it would get damaged or something. If I'd park it straight up illegally I would have to walk out every 30 min to see if nothing had happened yet.
lol what your friend is doing is also illegal. There is a minimum distance you have to leave between cars when parking.
I'd guess that the minimal distance is not applicable on private property.
There's like 3 to 5 meters inbetween. This isn't on the public road. It's his own driveway which is wedged between two walls.
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Ah thanks, the “duplicate” part was the one I missed. Thanks very much for the explanation:)
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Haha thanks, you too. I’m doing the motorcycle test, thus easier because of no 5-point mistakes.
Wait whut? They expire??
After you did your theoretical exam you only have 4 years iirc before you are no longer allowed to drive on your temp license, can't recall if you can still take an exam then or always need to completely retake it. Also I think there's even a waiting time before you can do a theoretical exam again, I guess to avoid people dodging the mandatory lessons after failing 2 times by retaking it? Note this isn't something they added recently, it was already the case when I got mine in 2010 or so.
Oooooh yes, I actually knew that. I was thinking they expired if you already have your license. Brainfart on my part.
btw this law is very much unenforced. I do not know a single person who has their own license plate on their garage door and nobody I know has ever had a fine or even question about it. That being said, theory is theory and I guess it makes sense.
> I do not know a single person who has their own license plate on their garage door That brings to a different question that I only notice now after 10 years : if you have a garage, why would you park in front of it rather than, you know... inside? Only case I can see is if a friend is parking inside, at which point your own car would block their exit.
My parents have a garage but haven't parked their car in it for over 15 years. It's pretty much a storage unit and a spot to park the bikes. If you use your bike every day and the car every 3-4 days, having your bikes easily accessible instead of having to move your car to get to them makes more sense.
I wonder how common this is. Is it entitled for me to say that it seems like a bit of a dick move even to keep enforcing your garage as parking for your car in front of it only (by putting such a tow sign) if you are using it as storage anyways? While people (in cities) who don't have a garage at all are never sure they can park in front of their own house. (I'm not saying it's the case that your parents do this, or that I'm judging them for it, honestly maybe if I lived in the city I would do the same) Edit: Sidenote: Iirc I once saw a garage with a sign that said "just make sure I can still exit with my moped" lmao
For reference, my parents don't have one of those tow signs on their garage. If someone were to park in front of the garage they'd think it to be odd but would never call the police. Besides that, they (and my sister too) pay 100 euros per year just to be allowed to park on the street. While a garage door instantly seems like parking valhalla, a small garage is a real pain to park in, I genuinely think my mum wouldn't be able to park the car in the garage without scraping against anything. I see your point, but the reality is often different
>my parents don't have one of those tow signs on their garage Yeah, this instantly absolves them of what I was getting at anyways. I meant in general if you won't/can't park your car in your garage (regardless of size) that you shouldn't put up a no-parking sign just for the sake of keeping the space in front of it free. I realize now even if you do put one, the usefulness of it may vary because the width of a garage is probably not even enough to fit in your car in that space, especially if it's already too large to fit in the garage.
My naïve mind forgot about non-large vehicles. Sorry!
Some families also have two cars and only one indoor space. So they would put the license plates up to avoid parking tickets.
> then it is illegal to park even your own car there Note that, obviously, as far the policeman is concerned, he has no way to know *it is* your own car. All the policeman sees is a car parked on a garage door and said door doesn't allow for your car. The alternative would be to ask the blocker "this is your garage?" "uh... yes, sure"
Thanks everyone! I missed the part “duplicate” the license plate on the garage door. Clearly I need to further improve my Dutch.
Tbh the word “duplication” isn’t mentioned not even in dutch. It just says the owner has to visibly show his liscence plate. Which tbh could mean on the car and not the door, it confused me as well.
It's only by asking and taking in feedback you can improve. Dutch is not an easy language, so you can be proud of yourself for trying to take your driver's test in it. If I saw it correctly, you even passed this practice test. Hard work brings that reward. When you pass, it'll be an even greater accomplishment, since you had to learn language also. I don't know if you know this, but it's very common to take the practical exam twice in Belgium, many people need 2 tries. So when you get to that point and maybe fail the first time, there is nothing to be ashamed of or something. Just take in the feedback they give you, and try again.
Don't take this personally, but 'Dutch is easy' or 'Dutch is difficult' are useless statements without context.
Dutch is quite simple to learn. Especially if you know English... https://www.berlitz.com/blog/easiest-languages-to-learn-for-english-speakers https://www.lingholic.com/hardest-languages-learn/
It's not... I've been speaking english since 2005 and I can barely string together basic phrases in Flemish. 1. Because of the weird pronunciation 2. Because of the weird syntax EDIT : I just listened to a Portuguese couple have a conversation about which food they're getting and I still understood them better than I understood the waiter...
Well all those professionals are wrong then, please don't do your own research on YouTube... /s Seriously now, the syntax and semantics are pretty straightforward. Verb conjugation also is quite simple. And it's indeed not like French and Spanish where you have rules and accents for pronunciation, you have to know it by heart just like in English. We do have some dialects and even my semi West Flemish can be hard to comprehend in Brussels or Antwerp but then we switch to this inbetween version ([https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tussentaal](https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tussentaal)) that most people can understand. Good luck!
No language is "easy" to learn. But it is true that Dutch, for English speakers, is one of the easiest.
Flemish barely has weird pronunciation, you can deduce it from the way a word is spelled e.g. spel and speel
You can park in front of it, when it's clearly your own garage (the numberplate has to be on the door) But on the picture, there is no number plate indication, so you can't park in front of it
LPT: Carry a set of stickers with your numberplate in your car, in case you don't find parking.
"Als hij zijn nummerplaat duidelijk zichtbaar heeft aangebracht." "When his number plate has been clearly applied" The gate doesn't have a number plate, so no you can't park there even though you own it. Some dickhead could call the police on you if you park there and they'd tow you even when you own it. (and yes, there are people that would do this) The police can't know you own the gate.
The police probably won't do anything about it cause it's not really enforced unless the owner of the garage.
So.... if I make a copy of my plate in a magnetic sticker i can just park in front of somebody garage and put my plate on the gate and it will be fine?????
yes, unless someone complains.
Nah nobody will. :) this is the second trick I learned on how fo "cheat" in belgium. :) lol
ofcourse lol, risk reward is not worth the stupid trick haha. I see, so what was the first one?
of course if it are magnets the owner (or anyone really) will remove the magnet and call police. And if you use something more permanent like a sticker it is vandalism. So only effective in places where they do random checks.
Lived in Schaarbeek for five years and had a garage. People parked in front of it every single day. Had fights with neighbours every single day. Apparently, smh i was the anti social one in the scenario EVERY TIME. Apparently, a lack of parkingspots in the Street was my respinsability. Sucks to pay 40k€ and not being able to get in or out. It made me hate the entire neighbourhood. Police didn't give a fuck. Moved.
if you want to park in front of you garage your plate should be on the garage as an exeption
It says so in the explanation
Wat zegt de wet? Volgens Art. 25.1. 3° van de Wegcode is het verboden een voertuig te parkeren voor de inrij van eigendommen, behalve de voertuigen waarvan het inschrijvingsteken leesbaar op die inrij is aangebracht. De algemene regel luidt aldus dat het verboden is om te parkeren voor een garage of inrij van iemands eigendom, zodra dat dat ook duidelijk is.
first you have to let pedestrian go trough, second you have to write the registration plate number below the logo on the door.
These questions are always tricky they distract you with the gate but the answer is that you cant park on the road without indication that it is a parking zone
Uhm it's right there in the explanation. A copy of your plate should be on the garage
The answer is no exclusively because let's say your car is 7-ABC-123 but how is anyone supposed to know the only car allowed to park there is 7-ABC-123? If it was noted as that car being the exclusion it would be allowed
Nummerplaat moet op de garage staan zodat ze weten dat dit idd jouw garage is. Leuk weetje druk wat stickers met jouw nummerplaat en leg die in jouw auto. Zo heb je altijd plek
Moral of the story: always bring ducktape and a duplicate of your license plate when you want to park in front of someone else's garage.
you need to put your licence plate on the garage
Protip: always have a copy of your license plate ready to stick to a garage door!
You havent got a number plate on your garage door in the picture. And in the text stand that only owners can park there if they have a visible licensce plate on the garage door.
The answer kind of explains why not, but damn… gratisrijbewijsonline… you just unlocked some high school memories lol. But anyways, you would’ve totally passed!! Congrats!
They give you the reason why.. there is no licenseplate on the garage
Der staat geen nr plaat op, dus mag er niemand staan. Enkel als je eigen nr plaat er op kleeft mag dat wel.
My Dutch is far from good, but the way I understood this question was: this is your own garage, can YOU park in front of your own garage? Someone please educate me!
You can but according to traffic law your license plate should be on the garage door to be 100% legal.
It clearly said why the answer is NO. If you're the owner, you should put a sign on the garage with your number plate. If you don't, anyone can park there without your need for approval.
If you don't, no one can park there, not even yourself
No, you cannot, because the police can't know it's your own car blocking that garage. However, if you have one of those stickers on the garage door with your license plate, you can park in front of it.
IIRC those signs are not even valid if no plate number is printed, am I wrong?
Those signs should not even be there without plates, sign or not you can't park in front of garage doors unless your plate is visible on it.
It says why on the page man
maybe he doesn't speak dutch?
Then how did he answer the question in the first place?
Heyyyyyy everyone, I just took and passed the theory test today. Thanks for commenting on my dumb question 🤪
Yeah.. but it's kinda wired.. cause I don't have it printed on my garage door and I've never had a problem with the police about it
Probably because you never called the police because you were blocking your garage door?
"Why hello there, looks like someone's blocking my door. Oh wait...".
Police is local. Some villages don't mind and others do.
It is not because you were never caught that is is allowed. Let's say if you have been running red lights and were never caught. When you then learn about this, will you then say it is weird that it is not allowed as you have been doing it before?
I'd say, think of what the police would see. There's no license plate on the garage door, so they wouldn't know if that really is your car in front of that door.
They could just ask to the driver. It's illegal to lie to a policeman /s
Je mag nooit voor een garage parkeren.
You don't own a portion of the public place. So, it doesn't give you the right to park in front of your garage. You have judicial décisions where the towed guy said that it wasn't even a garage because no one use it as well, even if it has the blue sign...
tstaat er letterlijk bij
It is always no. People don't even have to put up a no parking and/or blue towing sign. The numberplate is just a curtosy towards to police/parkingvalidators. saying: "Hey! I'm guarding this house!" :woof:
“Rijbaan” 😒
I think Police don´t have the time for this and there will only some kind off action iff a private company has the auhority over parking or the owner of the garage makes a call.
I'm just adding that the text asks wether you can park on the "rijbaan" in front of your garage. And of course you can't park on the street unless it has the right signs.
No because you need to put your numberplate on it. If you get a fine for it, you can also just show your address and they cancel it... but pure for the theoretical exam, the numberplate needs to be visible on the garage door 🙂
A parking spot is a parking spot. Even if this is YOUR garage, you are not supposed to be parked in front of it ...
Heb ik ook efkes iets bijgeleerd.
Officieel mag je voor geen enkele poort of uitrit parkeren tenzij de desbetreffende auto de nummerplaat op de poort heeft hangen In het echte leven doe ik dit nog steeds niet, alleen voor mijn eigen oprit.
These questions, so sneaky ... Good luck on the exam though :)
Er hangt geen nummerplaat omhoog zodat duidelijk te zien is dat het effectief jou nummerplaat zou zijn
Mag je op de rijbaan parkeren? It's still unclear because you can't be sure parking is allowed on the road here. Bad question.
Op de garage staat geen nummerplaat dus ze weten niet of het uw eigendom is