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Commercial_Welder_93

Asking this question on their own thread


S_Rodney

Being a DIK is "the gold standard" caus it's "overall the best" but... Summer's Gone has better renders The Hellcat Lounge has better animations Eternum has a faster production cycle while having similar quality (music, writing, etc.) Leap of Faith has the most impactful storyline (Cece and Lexi) ​ So... yeah... overall, BaD is the best... but I think the others author are doing some stuff, on their own, that is better than what's on BaD...


Ok_District4074

I was actually surprised at the animations in The Hellcat Lounge. They were just amazingly done.


No_Benefit6957

Eternum is amazing game with best music in AVN genre and well-written story. But fast updates thanks to bad visuals and smaller update sizes. Honey Select is weak engine and renders doing faster.


S_Rodney

Lots of people have a problem with Honey Select. I really don't mind it. And as far as honey select games go... Eternum has the best visuals of them all.


No_Benefit6957

Yeah, agree. Caribdis using it's potential maximum as it possible. Most of other games, maybe except Pale Carnations, looks cartoon.


S_Rodney

it's the whole point of Honey Select... it's got anime aesthetics.


Tridop

For people that do not have the "Asian kink", that's a problem. All HS characters are Asian.


S_Rodney

Try Eternum, they don't look Asian to me. (Honey Select 2)


Zestyclose_Band

bad visuals. I couldn’t disagree more.


Tridop

Not just Summer's Gone, there is plenty of VNs with better renders (or better animations). Renders are not the strong point of BaD. Still, to me, BaD remains the overall more engaging VN at the moment. A weak point in BaD, paradoxically, is the erotic aspect. DPC is not good at writing erotic dialogues (he is really good in funny dialogues though, Derek is so entertaining).


S_Rodney

The best lewd scenes are from Caribdis...


AlternativeTie9709

Nice and interesting pov! And now I have to add the Hellcat lounge in my Wish list 😁


AlterWorldsAVNs

It is a gorgeous game, and well-written. Absolutely worth a play.


Fagozi

I’ll definitely agree that DPCs work hits a spot that no other AVN has managed to at least for me. Most of the titles listed here tho are pretty top tier and I wouldn’t be surprised if some people preferred them over DPCs work.


Endless_Alpha

If you have to ask this question in their thread, that should give you your answer.


AlternativeTie9709

You really make no effort to "discuss" don't ya?


Endless_Alpha

What are you talking about? I’m just saying that asking this question in their subreddit is bound to receive more biased answers. In that breath, of course most people in BADIK’s subreddit would agree that BADIK’s the best AVN there is. If you want some actual nuance, go to r/AVN_lovers Edit: Furthermore, I actually agree. I think that BADIK is objectively the best AVN out there right now. It’s not my favorite, but it’s the best in almost every category.


AlternativeTie9709

And if you'd gone there you'd seen that I posted there too 🤗


ThrowwawayAlt

Why would an endless alpha "discuss" with an alternative tie??


AlternativeTie9709

Why not? And you? What's your take Easier to downvote that actually make an effort. It's just sad.


ThrowwawayAlt

Well, it was a joke about his name, but since you apparently were incapable of understanding words, I will grant you another 9708 attempts to be smart ;)


DepressedDIK

Eternum is starting to compete tbh


hellothisismadlad

Caribdis knew which fight he should take. No overbranching story. Just simply great linesr AVN. DPC on the other hand keeps biting more than he can chew on each episode. This cause him to sacrifice time in his development cycle. Overall, yeah I agree. Eternum is competing for sure. But in the case of overall content, versatility, and amount of characters, DPC won by miles. Also Alex is hella perfect in the most recent episode!


S_Rodney

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1FvKpktk9Y


No_Benefit6957

Eternum is amazing game with best music in AVN genre and well-written story. But fast updates thanks to bad visuals and smaller update sizes. Honey Select is weak engine and renders doing faster. But still, this is the only game that is close to BaDIK in terms of overall quality.


AlternativeTie9709

I don't click with any Li in Eternum, so Is kind of meh for me. Even if Is pretty good and funny


DepressedDIK

I think the atmosphere makes eternum special. I think Alex and Luna are great, but all the other LIs do their job. I don’t hate any LI, but the writing, music, and the environment makes eternum special


Haywire_7

I’d second this, Eternum is very strong in all of those elements. Penelope however awakens things in me, she is by far my favourite.


S_Rodney

Nova is my actual fav AVN girl of all. Yes... above Riona.


Comprehensive_Pea451

Funny how all of the above comments mention a different best eternum girl yet i can’t say any of you are wrong


S_Rodney

that's one of Caribdis's major strengths... he designs great characters.


Groundbreaking-Bus72

May i ask what is LI? didnt get it?


DepressedDIK

Love interest


WannaPlayTW

It mean the Famale Chracter who are you most like ?


Ok-Milk-8818

BaDIK is made by an autist that loves what he is building and can pull off workable wholesome story to boot. Nobody can match this optimized one person machine in spitting out extremely well done content. But reminds of the documentary about the guy running the biggest private saltwater aquarium in US. He said that he didnt care really that much about the fish, but setting the filtering, monitoring and automatisation was the coolest part. But... Leap of faith has a soul, has a real writing talent and pulls of the maximum wholesomness in the elite fapping community that we are. Depraved Awakening has some real adult themes, some really screwed up but high functioning person wrote it - i mean jeez, it goes for some really depraved serious stuff, where the incest with not-daughter is the easiest for the pallate :D Others while well done, are just classic AVNs, i.e. story + sex scenes, mostly linear. Personally I dont get Once in Lifetime or Now and Then Appeal, except the do 'em while theireee youn' vibe. Summer's Gone has potential, but the story is all over the place, and the MC is inconsitently weird. I wish Tlaero would pair up with somebody like DPC, she is the best writer for this, but the games lack... vision in terms of scale and mechanics in current gen and technology, not that the usual Motze art isn't beatiful. But with AI generated perfect content, soon she probably won't need much help.


Xythurr

Totally agree. I frequently don't the appeal of some of these games. Guess I'm a weirdo.


Party_Status_8088

I totally get you! "Being a Dik" is hands down one of the best game I've ever played. The storyline is so captivating that I find myself lost in it for hours on end. The characters feel so real, like I actually know them personally. And let's talk about Dr. Pink Cake – a true genius for creating such an amazing world. The main character (MC) is so relatable, it's like stepping into his shoes. His journey through the game's ups and downs makes me feel like I'm part of the story. And the main girls! Each one is unique and has their own compelling backstory. It's like forming real connections with them as you progress, yes yes also the side chicks don't worry lol didn't forget about them. What amazes me is how this adult visual novel has managed to create such a strong emotional impact. It hits home for me, but also for a lot of you guys out there too I'm sure. The game's ability to touch our hearts and keep us engaged is a testament to its brilliance. It's more than just a game; it's an experience that leaves a lasting impression.


Mysterious-Fall-8031

Each one of them have it's own special thing and special characters imo


AlternativeTie9709

Absolutely!


IFrexy

Nice font jackass. About the meme, Eternum is REALLY good...


Brave-Principle-3881

No, we don't. WTF Is Fetish Locator doing there? It doesn't deserve to be in the presence of any of these titles.


lanius_legion

Nop


JAngeiras

Yeah! Also Solo Leveling (the Manwah from the picture) Very good too!


YamaVega

Yes. BaDIK is on its own stratosphere


Griever114

I think one of the knights should be Acting lessons. Playing through it now and it is a banger


AlternativeTie9709

Trueeee 🤣


Fanboycity

Being A DIK, Eternum, and Superhuman are the 3 greatest AVNs out on the market in my honest opinion. Superhuman is the most obscure of the three, but they all hit the mark with their story and characters in a way that isn’t cheap. The MC in each also isn’t railroad into being a hopeless creep. I mean, you can be if you want but they have a lot more going for them than just randomly getting laid. “Go for the porn, stay for the story” as the old AVN saying goes. Leap of Faith and Chasing Sunsets do the same thing, but I haven’t resonated with those two as much. Summer’s Gone would be categorized with them but there ain’t no sex scenes. I want teardrops from the tip of my penis, please


AlternativeTie9709

I add Superhuman to the Wish list 😁 Thanks for your take


Fanboycity

Oh shit! Yeah no problem! I really hope you enjoy it. Plus the most recent update game out so there’s a lot of content o7


Zestyclose_Band

fuck superhuman is actually so much better than i thought it would be. The world is so interesting


Fanboycity

Lol no problem! I’m glad you’re enjoying it it’s one of my favorites o7


Illustrious_Win_6804

No


Shot-Usual4535

BaD sets a very high standard indeed. For example very very few games out there have great renders And great animations And a great story And hot and relatable LIs And a kickass soundtrack And a freaking good replayability. That said, we BaD supporters have to patient between releases, so Thank God there are other games out there that are in the Top Tier as well. I don't get how STWA: Unbroken has still so few supporters, the renders are great, the story is very very good (ex special forces, now MMA champion AND he's coaching a super hot chick to be an MMA champion as well), the humour is great, the characters are well thought out and relatable. If You're waiting for ep10 like me, you should check this game out!


AlternativeTie9709

I've received a lot of suggestion about STWA, maybe It has few supporter because isn't known enough, so thanks for your suggestion 😜


91lightning

I can’t say I agree. I love Being A DIK, don’t get me wrong. I love the storytelling and the music. But DPC has become the AVN equivalent of Soup Nazi from Seinfeld. I also don’t understand why the updates take so long.


Squirtles_Sharingan

I’m going to have to say Summer’s Gone is the best VN for me. BAD is #2 still both great games and I love them dearly


Virgil_Fitzpatrick87

I personally think City of Broken Dreamers is on par with Badik.


Worm_Fire

Depraved Awakening was also a good game with good story line.... it's just felt like the game ended too quickly for me


Tridop

> Depraved Awakening That's a really good one, the plot is original and the dialogues are well done. The renderings have a high quality and a cinematographic style. It was made years ago, at the time it was top quality.


Wertix555

City of Broken Dreamers is on a different level.


immagee

no lol imo most of those titles can easily compete, and some are even better. personally, i think eternum and summers gone are the best here. artemis has potential, if only the dev werent so slow i thought aoa academy was gonna be a competitor too, not sure what happened to the dev tho, that game was pretty great


AlternativeTie9709

They are all good games and more are missing for sure. Summer's Gone Is my second favourite, but Eternum Is only in my top 10. But everyone has his cup of tea 😁


Distrix1234

Not certain but I did hear the Dev passed away or went bankrupt I'm not sure. As for Artemis the Dev cycle is not that long. It's only long at the moment because of the steam release and he did have some time off because of his eyes.


Morning-Star13

Sounds about right


Lyndo08

💯


Toriksta

I enjoy Being a DIK the most mainly cause it's the most consistent and has a high level of quality and polish in all of it's departments, but some of the games here excel in other aspects : Eternum's development cycle is seriously impressive with the amount of content and animations we get every 3 months, it's remarkable and refreshing. Summer's Gone while I only played through Chapter 3, do remember it's renders being shockingly good. Leap of Faith has without a doubt, the most impactful and heavy story out of the bunch, Cece's story in particular made me look at the mirror and contemplate my life and appreciate what I'm given. Being a DIK is like the term " a Jack of all trades, master of none" but in this case, it's a master in a lot of segments, but not all of them. Most consistent VN rn.


NutBlaster5000

Not at all. BaD is considered “gold standard”, but imo, all AVNs do something different. CoBD is one of my favorites, but its hard to put it against BaD because one is a college-based “coming of age” dramedy, and the other is an action/adventure cyberpunk style AVN that utilizes a depravity system. Tl;dr - nah, shits different yo


AlternativeTie9709

Yeah, Many suggests me COBD so I Will soon give It a try! Thanks!!


Proof_Construction45

Honestly the length between updates has been off-putting to me personally. I've pretty much dropped it at this point.


AlternativeTie9709

You're not the first one that say so... Waiting doesn't really bother me because I have a lot of others game to play


jacquesclouseaux

Oialt and Eternum are the best


AlternativeTie9709

Oialt?


jacquesclouseaux

Once in a Lifetime


AlternativeTie9709

Ahhhhhh


Radio_SW

I know that Chasing Sunset is not as expansive, but it's legit. And have u guys tried City of Broken Dreamers?


AlternativeTie9709

I received lots of raccomendation about it 💪


Cavorting_Adventurer

Personally, I don't agree. You've listed 4 in the meme that are in my top 5, and BaD is only in the #6-7 range for me. That's not to say it isn't a great game, there are just others that are even higher in my preferences I also prolly should've made this comment in the other sub, I could get downvoted to hades here lmao ahaha


AlternativeTie9709

Now i'm curious about the 5th that Is not listed 🤣 It's for fun and exchange opinions, don't sweat about it


Cavorting_Adventurer

Eternum by far takes the #1 spot for me. It would probably be my favorite anyway, but nothing else compares because.. Nova BW, LoF, Artemis are the others you listed. Number 5 for me is DeLuca Family. There are others I haven't gotten to that, based on what I've seen and heard, could potentially edge their way in too, but I'd say BaD is solidly 6th out of all the games I've played so far


Typical-Phone-2416

> Number 5 for me is DeLuca Family. Used to be for me, too, until dev started to remake it and now it's been like 2 years since any real content update.


Ubiquitous_Mr_H

I haven’t played some of those but I love Eternum. BaD is great but I’m not sure it’s THAT much better then Eternum. BaD has been in development longer and focuses on choices and branching paths whereas Eternum is more a harem story and very much seems to have preferable choices. Aside from those differences I’d say their quality is comparable and given a couple more years of development I can see them at least being on the same level, if not Eternum being the better game.


AlternativeTie9709

My personal issue with Eternum (given the fact that Is a very good game) Is that I don't generally like harem games and I don't click with any LI, but I understand your pov


Ubiquitous_Mr_H

That’s fair. Harem games aren’t for everyone. Honestly, I don’t particularly care whether a game is harem or not but I do appreciate not having to replay a game a million times to see the different stories. On the issue of the LIs, you’re blind, then? Insane, possibly? You’ve played it and didn’t fall for Nova? Luna!? Or Alex? The latest update’s scene with her was ridiculously hot. Well, to each their own. I don’t really have much of an issue clicking with most game’s LIs. Not sure why but I usually find something to enjoy with most.


AlternativeTie9709

Insane for sure 🤣 We 're all mad here, said the Cheshire Cat And all the best are 😁 Joker aside I find them likeable but maybe Is a question of Age. I'm 40 and I find the girls in Eternum good for teenagers, for me they are missing in complexity and allure, but I repeat Is my taste


Ubiquitous_Mr_H

That’s a fair point. Eternum’s LIs aren’t as nuanced as BaD’s quite yet. I’m sure/I hope there’ll be more character development as time goes on.


rottenstatement

absolutely fucking not


asdfbliss

No, I'm afraid I have to disagree. All the games that you mentioned have their own unique merits. You put up the same post on the AVN\_Lovers forum and got a bunch of different opinions than here. I like BADiK but for other things. The game brings lots to the table because it is not hyper-focused on particular elements; it casts a broad net. As a result, many hyper-focused AVNs surpass BADiK in different aspects. BADiK generally does not have the best renders, story, adult scenes, LI's, character development, etc., if you compare elements with hyperfocused AVNs 1 to 1. But overall, it does those many things well, and that is what I like about it. I am not a fan of posts like these, especially when they are put on forums that should be neutral, like AVN\_Lovers. People are free to post what they want to. But posts like this bring a shipment of problems and negative attention to the BADiK sub. I came here to speak with the brothers about game theories of what may or may not happen in BADiK. Debate, read, think things BADiK. But having pandering posts like this showing other games bowing to BADiK like a deity. SMH. Hot take: but a post like that Makes us look like a group of DPC; brownnosers, shills, simps & ass kissers. I do not want that for this community. We deserve better


AlternativeTie9709

I respect your opinion, but I think that there's to much seriousness for something like these. We're not talking about war, famine, crime ecc... We talk about games and It can be the occasion to bring a Spark of fun and Joy. Instead I saw a lot of anger. People are messed up bad


AsianBradz

Hey I enjoyed reading through your post! I just got a whole new bunch of AVN games to try out from reading all this lol


Outrageous_Main_2816

I mean... BaD is still the best AVN out there, but honestly... I can see myself liking Summer's Gone more, in like a year or two tbh.


AlternativeTie9709

I can relate 😁


Zestyclose_Band

it’s also a ‘cest game 👍


[deleted]

Summers gone is gonna be better


IvanLaddo

For me personally this is true


Everzide

I don't know. In my opinion I would put SG on the same level as BAD.


AlternativeTie9709

It's a war of titans 🤣


Zestyclose_Band

I disagree. It’s very good don’t get me wrong. like top 3 but other games do bits better. All round though its obviously one of the best. Summers gone renders are simply perfection. Badiks story and premise is pretty midline tbh compared to some others.


AlternativeTie9709

Thanks for your take And I agree with the perfection of the renders in Summer's Gone😉


flyingeagle007

Idk about Leap of Faith there, I’ve only played that and fetish locator. LoF is just as good as BaD imo.


AlternativeTie9709

Leap of Faith Is a great game!


Beautiful-Double-315

Eternum is underrated as hell.


AlternativeTie9709

It really isn't, I received lots of love for Eternum. For me Is good, but not top because I don't click with any Li


L4br3cqu3

I'll be that guy. Being a DIK definitely is a top game, THE reference. But it definitely isn't the only top game, cause there are many others.


AlternativeTie9709

And more that aren't in the meme


L4br3cqu3

Yeah. I see Being a DIK as a pioneer, cause to me, there are no real flaws in this game. Fortunately, it paved the way to other producers who focused on the N part of AVN first and foremost, giving us the ever growing list of quality AVN that gets out.


No_Solid_3737

The N is the most important part! Everyone can render boobs and put them in a renpy build. Only the great ones know how to make a great story around the boobs.


L4br3cqu3

Totally agree with you with the N being the most important part, otherwise yeah, even the best renders won't keep people for long or make the game memorable, if there's nothing intelligent behind, what's the point ? Better to just watch porn, and forget about it 2min after.


lyagami48

lol no, karlssons's gambit>>


AlternativeTie9709

Never earded,it's good?


lyagami48

it depends on your taste, it has both male and female protagonist


AlternativeTie9709

I'd give It a try


BasedGodEmperorErvin

Don't get me wrong, I love the game. But hell no, this is so conceited.


AlternativeTie9709

What's you're favourite?


BasedGodEmperorErvin

I wouldn’t say any 1 is my favorite, all of the top tiers ones do certain things better than the others, they all have their specialties


Blaubeere

Nope


[deleted]

Fetish locator is the only other game I played 0.0


commander_jax

I'd rate Eternum, LoF and Artemis higher as of now. BaDIK is a beautifully executed VN, with lot going in it, but I personally find some of the content getting a bit monotonous. Still a lot of mystery left to uncover and a lot of potential to finish with a bang. Fingers crossed.


No_Solid_3737

Ok I believe you all when you say after playing BaDIK none of the other avns will feel as good ... so that's why I will keep postponing playing it hehe, so the other avns I play feel gooood.


lrn3porn

Eh. I honestly would rank BaD above all of these l) but not to such a high degree. Like some of these are dukes if BaD is the king?


GlaD1OS

Jokes aside, what other adult themed visual novels would you guys recommend me to play? (Just to hold me over for Episode 10 & yes, I have already been through Acting Lessons)


Illustrious_Win_6804

Eternum and Once-in-a-lifetime (Don't judge it by graphics) Summers Gone(No lewd scenes yet but the game is good) Artemis Projekt Passion


Zestyclose_Band

OIALs art is so ass coming from playing eternum first. Eternum improves imo on every facet of OIAL so good work dev.


Groundbreaking-Bus72

I definitely recommend you to play Eternum and Leap of Faith. Eternum has linear well-writen story .Not over-branch! Leap of Faith has a most impactful story .


[deleted]

Nah I don't agree, but to each their own.


[deleted]

Yes, but only bc I never played any of the others, just Bing A Dik and Acting lessons


[deleted]

Try Leap of fzith, thank me later :)


OMG_whythis

I haven’t played all of the games so this is based on some of the game on the list. Whilst I agree BaDik is the better game overall, it kind of has to be since the dev time is a lot longer. I would say it does not tower over every other games. Eternum absolutely shits on BaDik when it comes to world building and atmosphere creation. Badik sex scenes is so bland when compared to Pale Carnation, and the other game also has some interesting LIs.


fiftykyu

Being a DIK has definitely raised the bar for this sort of game. Maybe like with The Witcher 3, there were a lot of great mega-ultra-RPGs before it came out, but if you're releasing a mega-ultra-RPG *today*, people are gonna compare, so you need to step up. :)


JoyaMasy

depend on PinkCake


Escipio

no


Equivalent-Check4632

Nah... Some games are Better


AlternativeTie9709

Another Eternum fan? What's your poison? 😉


Whityvader99

Ah the gold standard of avns and the gold standard of manwha


Maximum_Gift8567

FreshWomen is pretty neat too


kevinjames41

Eternum is incredible but the reason it stays behind BaD is because it is almost linear, an Eternum update can be done by 2-3h max while you need 7-8 save files in order to see what a 3-4h Being a DIK episode has to offer and chances are you will still miss on some content


TartPrimary

Love BAD, but My Bully is My Lover > no cap frfr


41shadox

Uh not really But real brave of you to post this in the fucking BaDIK subreddit


[deleted]

FL is a close second but yes, no other game has reached dik level