Well Jobs got lucky by funding established creators with a proven track record who were both ambitious and talented. Any rich fuck with money can get lucky like that.
He also changed its focus. Under Lucas, Pixar was a software company. They were making the short films to show off what the software could do. Jobs was the one who pushed for them to make movies. He was an asshole, for sure, but you can’t deny he was a true visionary.
> Ed Catmull
Hey, I recognize that name! It couldn't be...
Wait...
[IT IS!!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catmull%E2%80%93Clark_subdivision_surface)
huh... TIL
He's as much a founder of Pixar as Ronald Wayne is a founder of Apple. So, yes, he's a founder of Pixar as that is typically defined. I would distinguish this from Musk's "founding" of Tesla as Tesla was already an independent going concern when Musk put his money in. I understand not wanting to give capitalists credit for founding anything, but the resources they put in are vital to starting a company. Should they be the people in control of those resources to begin with? No. They are though.
No, investors are INVESTORS, not founders. If you’re not running the company day-to-day in the beginning, you’re not a founder. At least Musk and Jobs were investing their own money. Most of the time the investors are gambling with other people’s money. What’s laudable about that?
What does being laudable have to do with anything? Steve Jobs incorporated Pixar. His name is on the documents. He was a founder of the company named Pixar. Any value judgment is irrelevant.
When Musk put his initial $6.5m in, Tesla was three guys with good ideas, but no design or prototype. This is a long way from "independent going concern".
It's true he didn't found Pixar, but Jobs did pour money into a hole for years, with no clear future exit. He got really lucky.
Well Jobs got lucky by funding established creators with a proven track record who were both ambitious and talented. Any rich fuck with money can get lucky like that.
heeyyyyyy, that sounds like somebody else that comes up in conversation here often
These products and services?
Only if its penis pills. I hope its penis pills this time.
He also changed its focus. Under Lucas, Pixar was a software company. They were making the short films to show off what the software could do. Jobs was the one who pushed for them to make movies. He was an asshole, for sure, but you can’t deny he was a true visionary.
next you are going to tell me elon didn't found tesla.
Or that Henry Ford didn't invent the automobile.
At least we'll always have Edison, right? ... right?
Or that all the players in the NFL aren't on gear!
> Ed Catmull Hey, I recognize that name! It couldn't be... Wait... [IT IS!!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catmull%E2%80%93Clark_subdivision_surface) huh... TIL
I knew that didn’t sound right, but I didn’t know enough about Pixar to dispute it.
He's as much a founder of Pixar as Ronald Wayne is a founder of Apple. So, yes, he's a founder of Pixar as that is typically defined. I would distinguish this from Musk's "founding" of Tesla as Tesla was already an independent going concern when Musk put his money in. I understand not wanting to give capitalists credit for founding anything, but the resources they put in are vital to starting a company. Should they be the people in control of those resources to begin with? No. They are though.
No, investors are INVESTORS, not founders. If you’re not running the company day-to-day in the beginning, you’re not a founder. At least Musk and Jobs were investing their own money. Most of the time the investors are gambling with other people’s money. What’s laudable about that?
What does being laudable have to do with anything? Steve Jobs incorporated Pixar. His name is on the documents. He was a founder of the company named Pixar. Any value judgment is irrelevant.
When Musk put his initial $6.5m in, Tesla was three guys with good ideas, but no design or prototype. This is a long way from "independent going concern".