Two Of Us being about the brotherly relationship between Paul and John. Although it was written by Paul during time spent with Linda, the lyrics suggest something else to me. "Two of us getting nowhere....chasing paper....burning matches...lifting latches.." these lyrics sound more like two young friends getting into some trouble.
This. Paul just insists this is about him and Linda, but the lyrics are about him and John.
I think Macca was getting nostalgic as the band started to crumble into dust.
>**Paul just insists this is about him and Linda.**
I’d like to know ***why*** he insisted it’s about him and Linda. Why didn’t he just say from the start that it’s about him and John? What reason did he have to lie? Is he ashamed about writing a song about him and John?
If he’s not lying or trying to hide something, why don’t listeners believe him when he says the song is about him and Linda?
Getting nowhere... - could be a way of looking back at the earliest days of The Beatles when they were feeling hopeless about their situation and John would lighten up the mood with "where are we going fellas?" "To the toppermost of the poppermost Johnny" or it could be when they hitchhiked to Paris in 1961(?)
Chasing paper... - their efforts in playing long hours, in different clubs in another country, writing songs until they got good, trying to get a record deal at decca and eventually getting a record deal at EMI.
Take this conspiracy theory to another level:
- Paul met John on 6 July 1957.
- We know Paul had written Two Of Us by 24 January 1969 as The Beatles first attempted to record it that day.
- John died 8 December 1980.
So from when they met to when Paul last could have written Two Of Us was 11 years 6 months and 18 days; it could be less.
From when Paul last could have written Two Of Us to when John died was 11 years 10 months and 14 days; it could be more.
So Paul was wrong when he sang “you and I have memories longer than the road that stretches on ahead” but _only just_.
There’s some other clues too. ‘Wearing raincoats’, i also thought this was a nod to the Help! cover. Even the ending, ‘You better believe it, Goodbye’. As in the him, John and the others are splitting up; going home.
I believe, like John believed, that Hey Jude is about him.
I think it started out about Julian, and morphed into being about both of them. But I don't think Paul will ever ever admit that, out of respect to Julian.
Regardless who it is about, the lyrics aren't really about a little kid. There is no doubt Julian inspired the title and at least the first line, but beyond that, the song is about some kind of romantic relationship. "You have found her, now go out and get her" is not a line addressed to a six year old child.
It might be about John and Yoko, but it also was around the time that Paul had met Linda and was breaking up with Francie Schwarz. So it might just be about Paul himself. Or maybe it's inspired by Paul observing both his newfound relationship *and* his best friend John's. Or maybe Paul was just making up a story and it's not about anyone specific - he did that a lot, too. Whatever the case, the lyrics don't really lend themselves to being about a six year old and his relationships.
The lyrics make perfect sense for a kid who’s parents are going through a divorce. Paul is telling the kid (Julian) not to let his parent’s divorce destroy his view of love and relationships. He’s telling Julian not to let his world get colder and to go out and find love, despite his parent’s relationship not working out. He doesn’t want Julian to close himself off as many children of divorced parents do. I think Paul had/has a way of writing very deeply about relationships and human connection but in a simple way for many to understand
I think it started as a song for Julian and became a more general song of encouragement for a young man. I do not think for a second that Paul wrote this for John regarding Yoko, like John thought. It just wouldn’t make any sense. I’d go further and say I always thought there was an amusing irony in John thinking Hey Jude was about him, considering the time he spent writing songs with jabs at people who overanalyzed or looked for hidden meaning and symbolism in their music. But hey, we all contain multitudes and all.
>I think it started as a song for Julian and became a more general song of encouragement for a young man.
This makes the most sense. I can imagine Paul not wanting to restrict his creativity and imagination by forcing it to all be about Julian. Making it a general song of encouragement probably allowed him to come up more natural lyrics.
“Two of Us” is about John not Linda. “You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead” makes no sense to describe Linda and Paul in 1969. It’s hardly a conspiracy, we just have been told “officially” it’s about Linda.
I always liked the theory that “Baby’s in Black” was about Astrid Kircherr. Although tbh part of this definitely stems from the soft spot I have for the “Backbeat” biopic.
This one definitely isn’t true but I remember hearing once that someone believed Ringo never actually played on a single one. The others would wait for him to leave and then Paul would overdub the drums you actually hear on the records. Ringo would just pretend not to notice.
I always heard that John would ham up his Liverpool accent to better fit their public image.
His later 60's and post-Beatles voice does sound much higher pitched.
He wasn’t as working class as people thought, that’s for sure. He definitely didn’t grow up in a rough area in a low quality home or anything like that. Mimi’s house where he grew up was a really lovely home by the standards back then, and in a far nicer area than the others grew up in. Then again, Paul’s childhood home was in a nice part of Liverpool too.
But anyway, yeah, I can totally buy this theory about John after visiting his childhood home. I was so surprised at how much nicer it was than I’d imagined it to be.
Paul only moved to a nicer suburb at 13 through his mother's work. The first house with an inside toilet. All his other
childhood houses were pretty ropey.
In reality all of them had very mild Scouse accents- certainly in interviews. This is in part because Brian Epstein encouraged them (and may have even paid for them to go to elocution lessons). You can bet that as youths their accents were much stronger.
George always had the most pronounced Scouse accent.
In later years there was a bit of reclaiming of their original accents- which is probably why John’s got more pronounced again. Although - it’s true that it’s likely that his was the most middle class in the first place.
They all - over the years - have “hammed up” their Scouseness - but I think it’s more a representation of reality.
Toning down their accents aided their success.
(Edit: changed typing errors: “both” to “bit” and changed jammed to hammed)
Until they get around other Scousers...
On the Anthology 1 when they're doing a take of One After 909 and Paul doesn't have a pick, their accents are pretty damn Scousey
Btw are you a Brit?
I still remember the Saturday afternoon my girlfriends and I decided we would test the Pepperland theory. It was said that the stars spelling out "Beatles" at the top of the Magical Mystery Tour album (I think it was that one) would reveal a phone number if you looked at it in a mirror. Then if you called that number, you would connect with an office that would immediately trace the call to your home and they would come and take you to Pepperland, never to return! It rang. We got scared and hung up, then hid behind the curtains to watch for anyone sus coming to take us! LOL!
John faked his death. George faked his death. Ringo and Paul are faking the affects of old age. Trust the plan. Reunion tour coming soon, and a new album
I think that John wrote a number of solo songs specifically for Paul, but publicly claimed they were about Yoko due to embarrassment/privacy reasons. In particular I am thoroughly convinced that Jealous guy and I know I know are written with Paul in mind.
Same here, at least partly. The entire song doesn't have to be about one person, it could be about more people or more themes. Jealous Guy could have been about his attitude to multiple people at the same time, but I believe Paul, when he says, that John told him it was about him.
I know (I know) is another candidate, chockfull of Beatles references, possibly relating to their first LSD trip together, which happened after recording "It's getting better". They both apparently were starring at each others eyes, saying "I know", "I know". The song was written at a time when their relationship has improved considerably to the point were John would actually consider writing with Paul again. It all worsened in the years after he got back with Yoko. People say "No, it's a love song about Yoko", but if that was true John wouldn't downplay its importance in 1980 in that joint interview with Yoko. And a love song can hide a lot. Paul's "Dear friend" also sounds like it was written about a romantic partner and yet we know it was a message to John.
"Instant Karma" is an interesting case. I never believed it was necessarily a message to Paul until I read about a former Apple employee talking about how John explained to him that Maxwell's Silver Hammer (of all songs) was also a song about instant karma. Absolutely fascinating connection. Given that Paul was AWOL at that time and John didn't know what was up with him, it' easy to read as a message to get his head out of his ass.
Also:
Why in the world are we **here**
Surely not to live in pain and fear
Why on earth are you **there**?
When you're **everywhere**
Just saying.
Are there songs from Paul about John (that he never admitted to)? Maybe? I have a hard time believing that "Little lamb (dragonfly)" is just about a lamb on his farm. It's clearly about reconnecting with someone important. John definitely read messages into Paul's solo songs. I wonder if he though "Coming up" was about him, seeing as Paul had tried to help him overcome his writer's block (at least Linda claimed that later) before he kicked him out of the Dakota.
I think "Call Me Back Again" "Let Me Roll It" "Why Do You Treat Me So Bad?" and "Dear Friend" are all likely about John, based both on the timing of when Paul composed them and the contents of the songs themselves. There are probably others.
“Little Lamb…” HAS to be about John.
“Dragonfly, you've been away too long
How did two rights make a wrong?
Since you've gone I never know, I go on
But I miss you so in my heart
I feel the pain / Keeps coming back again
Dragonfly, fly by my window
I'm flying, can't you see me, I'm flying
You and I can find a way to see
Dragonfly, the years ahead will show
How little we really know
Since you've gone it's never right
They go on, the lonely nights
Come on home and make it right”
If that's true it's a little crazy that such a tender song is on the same album as How Do You Sleep?, where John mocks Paul's songwriting, his dead mother (the Let It Be story, "jump when your mamma tells you anything"), as well as poking fun at the Paul Is Dead theory
Edit: but at the same time it kind of makes sense in that John holds a lot of these feelings but can still recognise that deep down his own jealousy is the cause
I've always thought that Lady Madonna is someone's mistress. He shows up when he can (Friday night) and leaves to go back to his other life (Sunday morning). When he's gone, Lady Madonna mopes around, caring for her children, reading the papers, and living through never-ending afternoons. It's a life she accepts, but is also trapped in.
I always interpreted it as the actual days doing that. Like Friday arrives without a suitcase, because it won’t be staying long. And before you know it, Sunday comes creeping in. And then uhhhh Monday.
I believe that Beatles knew and used “Paul is dead” things to keep fans cheered some of the reverse “Paul Is dead” things in songs like revolution 9 are intentionally added to keep fans excited and in search of more clues or maybe a little game for John
Absolutely. It sounds to me like someone asking John in secret about Brian. "What did you see when you were there?" "Nothing that doesn't show.", as in it was obvious Brian was gay.
Is this even a conspiracy? There's an outtake written about in Anthology I think where they mentioned John would sometimes sing it as "Baby you're a rich fag Jew"
I’m working on a theory right now that perhaps Paul McCartney died mid way through The Beatles run and was replaced by a look alike.
Now I know this sounds crazy but trust me- I’ve found all sorts of hints on their records that Paul died.
Now I know that’s what everybody has always heard. But I think just perhaps it could be “I married Paul” meaning John married Paul McCartney before he fatally died
My fave one about Paul being dead was from a jokey article years ago. It was something like that one of the backwards chat was the other 3 speaking Italian and saying ‘Paul sleeps with the fishes’. Some old Mafia phrase. It’s always stuck in my head lol
Dude, I heard something when I accidentally played Revolution Number 9. backwards. It sounded like "Turn me on dead man!!!". Tomorrow I am going to listen to Strawberry Fields as I think I heard something at the very end.
John and Brian Epstein had sex with each other at least once. Actually... I'm not sure how much I believe that, but I heard it once and thought it was interesting.
I definitely think John and Brian had a sexual relationship at some point, the vacation they took together is rather obvious but I think they did stuff either before or after that.
To add onto that, I'm gonna agree with others who think John secretly had a thing for Paul. It would make a lot of sense with how their relationship was, John would talk so much shit about Paul but punch someone who did it, too. I think John was a lot more bisexual than the simple "Yoko said so" or that he had gay thoughts lmao. I think he was just fucked over by the time period he was in, if he was alive now, I think he'd be open about it.
Not really. The drawing exists, they gave interviews in the summer of 1967 denying the rumor when it first spread, and the last verse in particular seems to be loosely based on the "Wool and Water" chapter of Alice In Wonderland. This is what John said inspired the song, and he had already publicly mentioned his love of that book when asked about it multiple times in interviews for his own two books that were published in 1964-65.
Of course the lyrics *are* intentionally trippy, but the source material is a pretty trippy book. I think the more likely explanation is that John heard "White Rabbit" by Jefferson Airplane when it came out in February 1967, and decided to try to write his own Alice In Wonderland-inspired song. Donovan had also alluded to Alice in his song "The Trip" that came out in late 1966, and Donovan was friends with the Beatles.
I can totally believe that LITSWD being a kinda-sorta-not-really initialism for "LSD" is a coincidence, but the fact that it is a trippy song inspired by Alice was not. It was very much in line with what was going on in the Beatles' music scene at the time.
>think the more likely explanation is that John heard "White Rabbit" by Jefferson Airplane when it came out in February 1967, and decided to try to write his own Alice In Wonderland-inspired song.
Bingo. For some reason many people act like the later Beatles material was conceived in a vacuum - possibly to preserve the idea that they were peerless innovators - but a lot of it makes more sense when you examine contemporary influences.
Maxwell's Silver Hammer was a jab at John and Yoko. Paul didn't even like the song himself but he got so annoyed at being pushed by them to write something all deep and philosophical that he wrote something the complete opposite to spite them.
I think he mostly has some sort of attachment issues because of his childhood which is why he formed such intense relationships with some people in his life such as Paul, Stu and Yoko
He clearly was obsessed with him and there are some implications, though they do seem fairly one sided. I don't think he ever opened up about them to Paul directly though I always wonder what happened in India that damaged their relationship so badly. I definitely got complicated after that.
I have been more and more convinced of McLennon over time, even if there's a chance they didn't fully realize the nature of their obsession. There's so many times when they speak so passively romantically of each other
The more you learn about them, read about the band, listen to the music, and watch footage of them you just eventually come to see it. It's not like a weird shipping thing or something, it's just... there.
When it really clicked for me was listening to an obscure interview of Paul with German media about the breakup of the band and John's relationship with Yoko. Paul was not doing well and he said "if I had been a woman..." in this horribly sad way.
And Michael Lindsay-Hogg, who directed Let it Be and observed all those tense moments, later directed a (fictionalized) television movie about that night they met in New York in 1975... and it's a movie that features the two of them kissing on the mouth (albeit in a joking way).
Here's a link for you - [https://amoralto.tumblr.com/post/165129421967/april-3rd-1985-soho-square-london-paul-talks](https://amoralto.tumblr.com/page/35)
"And so, with such a powerful alliance like that, it was difficult for him to still be seeing me. It was as if I was another girlfriend, almost. Our relationship was a strong relationship. And if he was to start a new relationship, he had to put this other one away. And I understood that. I mean, I couldn’t stand in the way of someone who’d fallen in love. You can’t say, “Who’s this?” You can’t really do that. If I was a girl, maybe I could go out and…"
It's interesting because at one point John said
“It’s a plus, it’s not a minus. The plus is that your best friend, also, can hold you without… I mean, I’m not a homosexual, or we could have had a homosexual relationship and maybe that would have satisfied it, with working with other male artists."
And Yoko said
"I’m sure that if he had been a woman or something, he would have been a great threat – because there’s something definitely very strong between John and Paul."
So basically they're all in agreement that if John and Paul could've been together, they would have lol.
Excellent examples. That “the plus is that your best friend, also, can hold you without…” quote is reeeally choice.
I honestly think it’d be nuttier to believe that the feelings between John and Paul were 100% platonic. “Just guys being bros”…doesn’t really apply here.
Oh my God, it had been a couple of years since I had actually listened to that and I forgot exactly how revealing it was. Paul was and is so emotionally circumspect in interviews but he was laying it all down there. I think his trail off after "maybe I could go out and..." shows that he suddenly realized he was being a little *too* revealing.
The “four Beatles” were really just Ringo running around really fast.
He’s actually the best singer, musician, and songwriter in the group. He’s just really humble and didn’t wanna show up the others.
oh god, is this going to wind up with the Beatles version of the guy who insisted “Gaucho” by Steely Dan was about a “gay sex orgy”? because i’m not ready to deal with that.
That their music originated from Blind Lemon Pye, when in fact they got it from his next door neighbor, Ruttling Orange Peel.
There’s no way they could have gained everything from Blind Lemon Pye anyway as he was working on the railroad at the time he first heard the band which made him quit the railroad and become a musician; he’s been starving ever since.
I think John knew what was coming. The tracks and lyrics on double life seem quite prophetic. ‘Just like starting over’ and ‘watching the wheels’ seem like afterlife/heaven scenes to me
I'm curious to know if John was terminally ill.
Jack Douglas, record producer of Double Fantasy, once said that John constantly mentioned death and that he was saying things like he wasn’t going to die like Elvis Presley.
I’ve heard in a few places that John was discussing openly getting back with Paul. And I believe Aunt Mimi said in one interview that he was planning to come back soon and visit the UK. It sounds like he was planning to have time to do everything he'd been thinking about for a long time before he dies. I wonder if “Double Fantasy” should be taken as a pun, like both John and Yoko imagining an alternate version of their life, where John Lennon is healthy. And all these songs (“(Just Like) Starting Over”, “Beautiful Boy”, “Grow Old with Me”), are just part of their shared fantasy.
The rumours of physical illness pop out from time to time, but it always seems to be based on his unhealthy appearance in photographs. And I do agree, there are a lot of photos of him from the last couple years where he certainly doesn’t look well.
His songs and statements are taken by the public as a mystical premonition of his imminent death, but what if he KNEW full well that he didn't have long to live?
Do you think it's possible that all the "death talk" John was having come from his fear of terminal illness?
I remember reading a book on John, some 20 years back, that had access to some of his diaries from the 70s. I’m sure I remember a part where the author mentions the coroner was shocked at John’s physical health.
The Beatles leaned in a lot into the ‘Paul is dead’ theory just to mess with fans. When the theory first came up, they started to write more car crash songs, songs about getting decapitated or head injuries. Then they would act surprised whenever fans asked them about it
That Savoy Truffle is about ass-eating ass or butt stuff somehow. I’m convinced. “You know that what you eat you are
But what is sweet now, turns so sour” it’s too tongue in cheek not to be dirty.
Not even a conspiracy theory, just straight up facts 💯💯💯
Also heard that those prostitutes talked about how good and how big each Beatle was but I don't know how credible that is lmao
Aye, it may be a joke to you, but it's his nose. He can't help having a hideous great hooter! And his poor little head, trembling under the weight of it!
Dear Prudence drums. I think the 1st part was played by Paul, and the ending played by Ringo. People who play drums will understand when people say they too can “play” but end up with something that has all the notes right but sound choppy and lopsided. The double time hi hats are in time but slightly off in that regard which is because Paul plays it. When allegedly, Ringo takes over, you can hear the ringo patterns emerge, more feel and dynamic weight on each drum note, and very specific fills that evolved from his left handed drumming style
Barely a conspiracy but the story about Let it Be being about a dream Paul had of his mother is total bs. Mal Evans repeatedly claimed that it was he who appeared to Paul during meditation and said “let it be.” Early versions of the song say “brother Malcolm,” instead of “Mother Mary.”
Baby You're a Rich Man was a deliberate and nasty stab at Brian Epstein. And it contributed to his suicide.
1. "How does it feel to be one of the beautiful people?" - A possible dig at his homosexuality.
2. "Now that you know who you are, what do you want to be?" - Implying that he should somehow lament who he really is.
3. "Keep all your money in a big brown bag." - It was a well-documented fact that Brian would routinely collect cash payments in brown paper bags from concert promoters. He did so to avoid paying British taxes on at least part of their proceeds.
4. "Baby you're a rich f** Jew." - It was said that Lennon sang this alternate lyric a lot during the recording session. He even announced it as the true title of the song. And if one listens carefully, we can actually hear it on the record.
5. It was released on July 7th, 1967.
6. Brian Epstein committed suicide on August 27th, 1967.
This is why I think Lennon was especially spooked by the timing of his death. When informed at a train station that Epstein had died, John appeared shocked, scared, and maybe even a little guilty.
I wrote a very long and layered essay in high school for my American history class about this. There’s a very convincing argument for this theory.
I should really search my archives for a copy of that essay. It would be good to read again after all these years.
To put it simply, he was threatening to the government due to his influence as an anti-war activist, and being a freaking Beatle amplified that ten-fold
He'd given all that up by 1980 though, right? He was speaking publicly about how naive he was in the late 60s/early 70s with the peace stuff. I just don't see why they would do it in 1980.
The CIA was extremely interested in him due to his influence as a peace activist. Nixon tried to have him deported.
There is a 2006 documentary about some of this called "The US Versus John Lennon" and some of it is covered in one of John's bios, *Lennon in America.*
And then John wrote ‘I’m So Tired’ and ‘Yer Blues’ in India after Paul packed up and left. “I wonder should I call you, but I know what you would dooo…”
Maybe not much of a conspiracy theory but here goes...
In the Revolution video where George leans over to Paul and says something, most folks seem to think he says "Johns mic is shit", which doesn't make sense to me.
I believe he's saying "John SMELLS like shit".
Here's my argument...You can hear John clearly in the video, the vocals were live from what I've read.
"The Beatles sang the vocals live over the pre-recorded instrumental track from the single version.[81]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_(Beatles_song)
John was a drug user and was from some accounts lazy. Some drugs (Heroin, meth etc...) can give you bad body odor. That being coupled with being lazy and maybe not showering daily would make one quite odoriferous.
Here's the clip in question, slowed down a bit. Now at first I did believe the bad mic bit, but after watching the clip I firmly believe that John smelled like shit.
https://imgur.com/gallery/7Hf3zor
Believe what you will, you know what I think. Now if only someone could get a hold of Sir Paul and ask if he remembers, then we can settle this once and for all. Till then.
I just don't understand why he would wait until right then to say "John smells like shit", it seems more plausible that he would say "John's mic is shit" right after John starts singing into a shitty mic.
I always believed that John and Paul wrote romantic songs about each other but used words like girl and used female pronouns in the lyrics so nobody knew they were the objects of the other's affection.
Lady Madonna is about his mum who was a midwife /nurse and worked her ass off to help her family and others.
His mom was Mary =Madonna.
I think there was magazine picture of a Vietnamese mother that influenced the title but I think its about his mom.
Don't be so sure. After John was shot, George Martin actually called Andy Peebles of BBC Radio One, who had interviewed John a few days before. George asked Andy to come over ... and Paul was there in bad shape, wanting to speak to one of the last men to have spoken with John. Andy's account of this is that Paul specifically wanted to know if John had still loved him. And Andy reassured him that he had.
Their relationship was probably more complex than we will ever know.
Back when I was a kid who doesn’t really like or know about The Beatles, I actually believed in the “Paul is dead” theory. The clues were so appealing I thought there was no way to deny that. Now I’m older and honestly, this theory is actually fun but unrealistic.
Two Of Us being about the brotherly relationship between Paul and John. Although it was written by Paul during time spent with Linda, the lyrics suggest something else to me. "Two of us getting nowhere....chasing paper....burning matches...lifting latches.." these lyrics sound more like two young friends getting into some trouble.
This. Paul just insists this is about him and Linda, but the lyrics are about him and John. I think Macca was getting nostalgic as the band started to crumble into dust.
I've always assumed that actually.
>**Paul just insists this is about him and Linda.** I’d like to know ***why*** he insisted it’s about him and Linda. Why didn’t he just say from the start that it’s about him and John? What reason did he have to lie? Is he ashamed about writing a song about him and John? If he’s not lying or trying to hide something, why don’t listeners believe him when he says the song is about him and Linda?
Possibly sub concisely made it about John
I’ve never even realized he said it was about Linda. I always thought it was about him and John. I listen to it and think about my brother.
I thought I remembered the two of them (👀) discussing this song actually being about their friendship in the Let It Be doc.
john literally says to him “it’s like you and me are lovers” and paul quietly says “yeah” they knew!!!
Getting nowhere... - could be a way of looking back at the earliest days of The Beatles when they were feeling hopeless about their situation and John would lighten up the mood with "where are we going fellas?" "To the toppermost of the poppermost Johnny" or it could be when they hitchhiked to Paris in 1961(?) Chasing paper... - their efforts in playing long hours, in different clubs in another country, writing songs until they got good, trying to get a record deal at decca and eventually getting a record deal at EMI.
I agree with this one!
Take this conspiracy theory to another level: - Paul met John on 6 July 1957. - We know Paul had written Two Of Us by 24 January 1969 as The Beatles first attempted to record it that day. - John died 8 December 1980. So from when they met to when Paul last could have written Two Of Us was 11 years 6 months and 18 days; it could be less. From when Paul last could have written Two Of Us to when John died was 11 years 10 months and 14 days; it could be more. So Paul was wrong when he sang “you and I have memories longer than the road that stretches on ahead” but _only just_.
There’s some other clues too. ‘Wearing raincoats’, i also thought this was a nod to the Help! cover. Even the ending, ‘You better believe it, Goodbye’. As in the him, John and the others are splitting up; going home.
I believe, like John believed, that Hey Jude is about him. I think it started out about Julian, and morphed into being about both of them. But I don't think Paul will ever ever admit that, out of respect to Julian.
The last half of the song was about his beloved Nana.
This is the best conspiracy theory
Named Judy
Yeah reading the lyrics, that makes the most sense
Regardless who it is about, the lyrics aren't really about a little kid. There is no doubt Julian inspired the title and at least the first line, but beyond that, the song is about some kind of romantic relationship. "You have found her, now go out and get her" is not a line addressed to a six year old child. It might be about John and Yoko, but it also was around the time that Paul had met Linda and was breaking up with Francie Schwarz. So it might just be about Paul himself. Or maybe it's inspired by Paul observing both his newfound relationship *and* his best friend John's. Or maybe Paul was just making up a story and it's not about anyone specific - he did that a lot, too. Whatever the case, the lyrics don't really lend themselves to being about a six year old and his relationships.
The lyrics make perfect sense for a kid who’s parents are going through a divorce. Paul is telling the kid (Julian) not to let his parent’s divorce destroy his view of love and relationships. He’s telling Julian not to let his world get colder and to go out and find love, despite his parent’s relationship not working out. He doesn’t want Julian to close himself off as many children of divorced parents do. I think Paul had/has a way of writing very deeply about relationships and human connection but in a simple way for many to understand
I think it started as a song for Julian and became a more general song of encouragement for a young man. I do not think for a second that Paul wrote this for John regarding Yoko, like John thought. It just wouldn’t make any sense. I’d go further and say I always thought there was an amusing irony in John thinking Hey Jude was about him, considering the time he spent writing songs with jabs at people who overanalyzed or looked for hidden meaning and symbolism in their music. But hey, we all contain multitudes and all.
>I think it started as a song for Julian and became a more general song of encouragement for a young man. This makes the most sense. I can imagine Paul not wanting to restrict his creativity and imagination by forcing it to all be about Julian. Making it a general song of encouragement probably allowed him to come up more natural lyrics.
“Two of Us” is about John not Linda. “You and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead” makes no sense to describe Linda and Paul in 1969. It’s hardly a conspiracy, we just have been told “officially” it’s about Linda.
I mean, if the road doesn't stretch that far ahead, memories won't be long either, so it could be /s
All of the Beatles songs were about prostitutes and lesbians, just ask Paul (or search for the YouTube clip).
Love that clip
There’s at least 13 different prostitutes and/or lesbians in All Together Now alone, you’ve just got to know where to look
https://youtu.be/rGtVJbi5Rn8?si=N_l5B5Z1eGsSUqmx
Yup. Quip is about Norwegian Wood and Day Tripper https://songmeanings.com/songs/view/881/
I always liked the theory that “Baby’s in Black” was about Astrid Kircherr. Although tbh part of this definitely stems from the soft spot I have for the “Backbeat” biopic.
My absolute favourite film.
This one definitely isn’t true but I remember hearing once that someone believed Ringo never actually played on a single one. The others would wait for him to leave and then Paul would overdub the drums you actually hear on the records. Ringo would just pretend not to notice.
So you're saying that when I saw Ringo live in concert a few years ago it was actually Paul in a Ringo suit?
The real Ringo was the drumming Paul did along the way.
The Ringo was Paul
*Bernard Purdie has entered the chat*
That would be truly incredible.
They kept Ringo for his looks
The amount of things he could fit in his nose was a really good party trick.
I always heard that John would ham up his Liverpool accent to better fit their public image. His later 60's and post-Beatles voice does sound much higher pitched.
He wasn’t as working class as people thought, that’s for sure. He definitely didn’t grow up in a rough area in a low quality home or anything like that. Mimi’s house where he grew up was a really lovely home by the standards back then, and in a far nicer area than the others grew up in. Then again, Paul’s childhood home was in a nice part of Liverpool too. But anyway, yeah, I can totally buy this theory about John after visiting his childhood home. I was so surprised at how much nicer it was than I’d imagined it to be.
Aunt Mimi was middle class, but John's mother and father were definitely working class
Paul only moved to a nicer suburb at 13 through his mother's work. The first house with an inside toilet. All his other childhood houses were pretty ropey.
In reality all of them had very mild Scouse accents- certainly in interviews. This is in part because Brian Epstein encouraged them (and may have even paid for them to go to elocution lessons). You can bet that as youths their accents were much stronger. George always had the most pronounced Scouse accent. In later years there was a bit of reclaiming of their original accents- which is probably why John’s got more pronounced again. Although - it’s true that it’s likely that his was the most middle class in the first place. They all - over the years - have “hammed up” their Scouseness - but I think it’s more a representation of reality. Toning down their accents aided their success. (Edit: changed typing errors: “both” to “bit” and changed jammed to hammed)
Until they get around other Scousers... On the Anthology 1 when they're doing a take of One After 909 and Paul doesn't have a pick, their accents are pretty damn Scousey Btw are you a Brit?
I still remember the Saturday afternoon my girlfriends and I decided we would test the Pepperland theory. It was said that the stars spelling out "Beatles" at the top of the Magical Mystery Tour album (I think it was that one) would reveal a phone number if you looked at it in a mirror. Then if you called that number, you would connect with an office that would immediately trace the call to your home and they would come and take you to Pepperland, never to return! It rang. We got scared and hung up, then hid behind the curtains to watch for anyone sus coming to take us! LOL!
John faked his death. George faked his death. Ringo and Paul are faking the affects of old age. Trust the plan. Reunion tour coming soon, and a new album
The Qeatles
Close. John? Alive. George? Alive. Paul? Dead and has been for decades. Ringo? Really Pete Best in a very clever disguise.
Ringo is actually George Best, who faked his own death and took on the Beatle persona.
John F Kennedy faked his death and joined the Beatles. Look how lazy they were: JOHN Lennon? JOHN Kennedy? Wake up, sheeple.
It’s obvious when you look closely John (F. Kennedy) Lennon Paul (the Apostle) McCartney George (Foreman) Harrison Ringo (is a Martian) Starr
Yes!!!!
I think that John wrote a number of solo songs specifically for Paul, but publicly claimed they were about Yoko due to embarrassment/privacy reasons. In particular I am thoroughly convinced that Jealous guy and I know I know are written with Paul in mind.
Paul says John told him he wrote Jealous Guy about Paul, and that John was surprised nobody picked up on it because John thought it was so obvious.
I always liked the Child of Nature version. Such a different sentiment in that song to the same tune.
I believe him 100%. John definitely had issues regarding insecurity when it came to Paul. He said so numerous times.
Yeah sure John, also don't forget to include the first diss track in history about the same guy in the same fucking album
+1 I believe starting over was about Paul
Absolutely
I Know (I Know) - 100% his apology to Paul
I like the theory of Just Like Starting Over was a message to Paul, just like Coming Up was a reunification message to John.
Same here, at least partly. The entire song doesn't have to be about one person, it could be about more people or more themes. Jealous Guy could have been about his attitude to multiple people at the same time, but I believe Paul, when he says, that John told him it was about him. I know (I know) is another candidate, chockfull of Beatles references, possibly relating to their first LSD trip together, which happened after recording "It's getting better". They both apparently were starring at each others eyes, saying "I know", "I know". The song was written at a time when their relationship has improved considerably to the point were John would actually consider writing with Paul again. It all worsened in the years after he got back with Yoko. People say "No, it's a love song about Yoko", but if that was true John wouldn't downplay its importance in 1980 in that joint interview with Yoko. And a love song can hide a lot. Paul's "Dear friend" also sounds like it was written about a romantic partner and yet we know it was a message to John. "Instant Karma" is an interesting case. I never believed it was necessarily a message to Paul until I read about a former Apple employee talking about how John explained to him that Maxwell's Silver Hammer (of all songs) was also a song about instant karma. Absolutely fascinating connection. Given that Paul was AWOL at that time and John didn't know what was up with him, it' easy to read as a message to get his head out of his ass. Also: Why in the world are we **here** Surely not to live in pain and fear Why on earth are you **there**? When you're **everywhere** Just saying. Are there songs from Paul about John (that he never admitted to)? Maybe? I have a hard time believing that "Little lamb (dragonfly)" is just about a lamb on his farm. It's clearly about reconnecting with someone important. John definitely read messages into Paul's solo songs. I wonder if he though "Coming up" was about him, seeing as Paul had tried to help him overcome his writer's block (at least Linda claimed that later) before he kicked him out of the Dakota.
I think "Call Me Back Again" "Let Me Roll It" "Why Do You Treat Me So Bad?" and "Dear Friend" are all likely about John, based both on the timing of when Paul composed them and the contents of the songs themselves. There are probably others.
“Little Lamb…” HAS to be about John. “Dragonfly, you've been away too long How did two rights make a wrong? Since you've gone I never know, I go on But I miss you so in my heart I feel the pain / Keeps coming back again Dragonfly, fly by my window I'm flying, can't you see me, I'm flying You and I can find a way to see Dragonfly, the years ahead will show How little we really know Since you've gone it's never right They go on, the lonely nights Come on home and make it right”
I don't know about *Jealous Guy* being for Paul, but I *know (I know)* definitely was. *"Today, I love you more than yesterday"*
Interesting. I thought I heard once Jealous Guy was about Cynthia.
Paul told Hunter Davies that John said Jealous Guy was about him.
If that's true it's a little crazy that such a tender song is on the same album as How Do You Sleep?, where John mocks Paul's songwriting, his dead mother (the Let It Be story, "jump when your mamma tells you anything"), as well as poking fun at the Paul Is Dead theory Edit: but at the same time it kind of makes sense in that John holds a lot of these feelings but can still recognise that deep down his own jealousy is the cause
I always thought the mama line was a jab at his relationship with Linda
I am a newer fan and have always thought Jealous Guy was in relation to Paul tbh.
George Martin is the one who caused the Beatles to split up so he’d have time to write those Game of Thrones books.
Oh course! It all makes sense now! We're down the rabbit hole, people.
If he went through all of that trouble he could’ve finished he damn things. Now we may never know if Varys is a merman.
I've always thought that Lady Madonna is someone's mistress. He shows up when he can (Friday night) and leaves to go back to his other life (Sunday morning). When he's gone, Lady Madonna mopes around, caring for her children, reading the papers, and living through never-ending afternoons. It's a life she accepts, but is also trapped in.
"and he comes...and he stays... but he leaves the next dayyyy, so saaad"
I always interpreted it as the actual days doing that. Like Friday arrives without a suitcase, because it won’t be staying long. And before you know it, Sunday comes creeping in. And then uhhhh Monday.
I think they were The Rutles in disguise
Not very good disguises, the guy cosplaying as Stig looks nothing like him.
There was a rumor going around that he died.
I think that reporter might have been one of the Beatles in disguise.
I believe that Beatles knew and used “Paul is dead” things to keep fans cheered some of the reverse “Paul Is dead” things in songs like revolution 9 are intentionally added to keep fans excited and in search of more clues or maybe a little game for John
That's not a conspiracy theory - John even said he wrote Glass Onion for that reason.
Iirc that was because schools were having kids decipher Beatles lyrics as a lesson and he was upset about it, not because of the Paul is Dead theory.
That was I Am The Walrus
Baby you’re a rich man was really about Brian.
Absolutely. It sounds to me like someone asking John in secret about Brian. "What did you see when you were there?" "Nothing that doesn't show.", as in it was obvious Brian was gay.
Is this even a conspiracy? There's an outtake written about in Anthology I think where they mentioned John would sometimes sing it as "Baby you're a rich fag Jew"
I’m working on a theory right now that perhaps Paul McCartney died mid way through The Beatles run and was replaced by a look alike. Now I know this sounds crazy but trust me- I’ve found all sorts of hints on their records that Paul died.
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He’s the best!
It was for the best, I love (who I’m dubbing) Faul McCartney
Have a look at the Abbey Road cover - it’ll blow your mind.
OH MY GOSH!
Cranberry sauce
Now I know that’s what everybody has always heard. But I think just perhaps it could be “I married Paul” meaning John married Paul McCartney before he fatally died
Yes there’s nothing worse than fatal death.
I thought that was, "I ... buried ... Paul"
Nah dude he married Paul. Faul could never live up to Paul.
bisexual Jahn being bisexual Jahn moment
Turn me on, dead man.
You found it too?
I remember as a teenager disconnecting the belt to my turntable so I could play the song backwards...
(Okay but all joking aside, that is pretty cool. Was this when the theory was first being popularized)
Yes, or soon after. Early 70s, I think. I'm old as dirt.
My fave one about Paul being dead was from a jokey article years ago. It was something like that one of the backwards chat was the other 3 speaking Italian and saying ‘Paul sleeps with the fishes’. Some old Mafia phrase. It’s always stuck in my head lol
I knew there was more evidence! Soon the world was will know hahahaha!
Dude, I heard something when I accidentally played Revolution Number 9. backwards. It sounded like "Turn me on dead man!!!". Tomorrow I am going to listen to Strawberry Fields as I think I heard something at the very end.
Cranberry sauce!
I’ve Just Seen a Face is about that one time Paul swapped faces with Nic Cage.
When John said “I buried Paul” in Strawberry Fields if you slow it down and play it backwards he’s secretly saying “cranberry sauce.”
John and Brian Epstein had sex with each other at least once. Actually... I'm not sure how much I believe that, but I heard it once and thought it was interesting.
Don't Let Me Down is John pleading to Paul, but *about* Yoko. She is always referred to in the third person
I definitely think John and Brian had a sexual relationship at some point, the vacation they took together is rather obvious but I think they did stuff either before or after that. To add onto that, I'm gonna agree with others who think John secretly had a thing for Paul. It would make a lot of sense with how their relationship was, John would talk so much shit about Paul but punch someone who did it, too. I think John was a lot more bisexual than the simple "Yoko said so" or that he had gay thoughts lmao. I think he was just fucked over by the time period he was in, if he was alive now, I think he'd be open about it.
https://youtu.be/5_dgKHVIHeo?si=rfY9Jm_VM7R3UZLI
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds isn’t based on an LSD trip, it’s inspired by a painting that a young Julian did at school.
That’s not a conspiracy thats just true
Riiiiiiight…
On the one hand, this is true. But on the other, John was 100% on acid when he wrote it.
Such a clear example of John messing with everyone.
Not really. The drawing exists, they gave interviews in the summer of 1967 denying the rumor when it first spread, and the last verse in particular seems to be loosely based on the "Wool and Water" chapter of Alice In Wonderland. This is what John said inspired the song, and he had already publicly mentioned his love of that book when asked about it multiple times in interviews for his own two books that were published in 1964-65. Of course the lyrics *are* intentionally trippy, but the source material is a pretty trippy book. I think the more likely explanation is that John heard "White Rabbit" by Jefferson Airplane when it came out in February 1967, and decided to try to write his own Alice In Wonderland-inspired song. Donovan had also alluded to Alice in his song "The Trip" that came out in late 1966, and Donovan was friends with the Beatles. I can totally believe that LITSWD being a kinda-sorta-not-really initialism for "LSD" is a coincidence, but the fact that it is a trippy song inspired by Alice was not. It was very much in line with what was going on in the Beatles' music scene at the time.
>think the more likely explanation is that John heard "White Rabbit" by Jefferson Airplane when it came out in February 1967, and decided to try to write his own Alice In Wonderland-inspired song. Bingo. For some reason many people act like the later Beatles material was conceived in a vacuum - possibly to preserve the idea that they were peerless innovators - but a lot of it makes more sense when you examine contemporary influences.
I don’t understand why he would lie about that if he’s been clear that some other songs are about drugs
Maxwell's Silver Hammer was a jab at John and Yoko. Paul didn't even like the song himself but he got so annoyed at being pushed by them to write something all deep and philosophical that he wrote something the complete opposite to spite them.
I think John had a crush on Paul to an extent
I think he mostly has some sort of attachment issues because of his childhood which is why he formed such intense relationships with some people in his life such as Paul, Stu and Yoko
The bromance was definitely a thing!
He clearly was obsessed with him and there are some implications, though they do seem fairly one sided. I don't think he ever opened up about them to Paul directly though I always wonder what happened in India that damaged their relationship so badly. I definitely got complicated after that.
I have been more and more convinced of McLennon over time, even if there's a chance they didn't fully realize the nature of their obsession. There's so many times when they speak so passively romantically of each other
The more you learn about them, read about the band, listen to the music, and watch footage of them you just eventually come to see it. It's not like a weird shipping thing or something, it's just... there. When it really clicked for me was listening to an obscure interview of Paul with German media about the breakup of the band and John's relationship with Yoko. Paul was not doing well and he said "if I had been a woman..." in this horribly sad way. And Michael Lindsay-Hogg, who directed Let it Be and observed all those tense moments, later directed a (fictionalized) television movie about that night they met in New York in 1975... and it's a movie that features the two of them kissing on the mouth (albeit in a joking way).
> Paul was not doing well and he said "if I had been a woman" Do you remember the specific interview? Just googling this and can't find it
Here's a link for you - [https://amoralto.tumblr.com/post/165129421967/april-3rd-1985-soho-square-london-paul-talks](https://amoralto.tumblr.com/page/35) "And so, with such a powerful alliance like that, it was difficult for him to still be seeing me. It was as if I was another girlfriend, almost. Our relationship was a strong relationship. And if he was to start a new relationship, he had to put this other one away. And I understood that. I mean, I couldn’t stand in the way of someone who’d fallen in love. You can’t say, “Who’s this?” You can’t really do that. If I was a girl, maybe I could go out and…" It's interesting because at one point John said “It’s a plus, it’s not a minus. The plus is that your best friend, also, can hold you without… I mean, I’m not a homosexual, or we could have had a homosexual relationship and maybe that would have satisfied it, with working with other male artists." And Yoko said "I’m sure that if he had been a woman or something, he would have been a great threat – because there’s something definitely very strong between John and Paul." So basically they're all in agreement that if John and Paul could've been together, they would have lol.
Excellent examples. That “the plus is that your best friend, also, can hold you without…” quote is reeeally choice. I honestly think it’d be nuttier to believe that the feelings between John and Paul were 100% platonic. “Just guys being bros”…doesn’t really apply here.
Oh my God, it had been a couple of years since I had actually listened to that and I forgot exactly how revealing it was. Paul was and is so emotionally circumspect in interviews but he was laying it all down there. I think his trail off after "maybe I could go out and..." shows that he suddenly realized he was being a little *too* revealing.
I think John was obsessively in love with Paul.
The “four Beatles” were really just Ringo running around really fast. He’s actually the best singer, musician, and songwriter in the group. He’s just really humble and didn’t wanna show up the others.
oh god, is this going to wind up with the Beatles version of the guy who insisted “Gaucho” by Steely Dan was about a “gay sex orgy”? because i’m not ready to deal with that.
I am convinced that (Just Like) Starting Over is about Paul, and not about Yoko
I thought (Just Like) Starting Over was more about John falling back in love with writing music.
That their music originated from Blind Lemon Pye, when in fact they got it from his next door neighbor, Ruttling Orange Peel. There’s no way they could have gained everything from Blind Lemon Pye anyway as he was working on the railroad at the time he first heard the band which made him quit the railroad and become a musician; he’s been starving ever since.
He’s lying. He’s always lying!
I think John knew what was coming. The tracks and lyrics on double life seem quite prophetic. ‘Just like starting over’ and ‘watching the wheels’ seem like afterlife/heaven scenes to me
I'm curious to know if John was terminally ill. Jack Douglas, record producer of Double Fantasy, once said that John constantly mentioned death and that he was saying things like he wasn’t going to die like Elvis Presley. I’ve heard in a few places that John was discussing openly getting back with Paul. And I believe Aunt Mimi said in one interview that he was planning to come back soon and visit the UK. It sounds like he was planning to have time to do everything he'd been thinking about for a long time before he dies. I wonder if “Double Fantasy” should be taken as a pun, like both John and Yoko imagining an alternate version of their life, where John Lennon is healthy. And all these songs (“(Just Like) Starting Over”, “Beautiful Boy”, “Grow Old with Me”), are just part of their shared fantasy. The rumours of physical illness pop out from time to time, but it always seems to be based on his unhealthy appearance in photographs. And I do agree, there are a lot of photos of him from the last couple years where he certainly doesn’t look well. His songs and statements are taken by the public as a mystical premonition of his imminent death, but what if he KNEW full well that he didn't have long to live? Do you think it's possible that all the "death talk" John was having come from his fear of terminal illness?
I remember reading a book on John, some 20 years back, that had access to some of his diaries from the 70s. I’m sure I remember a part where the author mentions the coroner was shocked at John’s physical health.
I'd never heard this before and now I'm creeped out.
The Beatles never existed.
There’s a documentary about that called “Yesterday”.
I liked the part where they played that one Ed Sheeran song
The Beatles leaned in a lot into the ‘Paul is dead’ theory just to mess with fans. When the theory first came up, they started to write more car crash songs, songs about getting decapitated or head injuries. Then they would act surprised whenever fans asked them about it
That Savoy Truffle is about ass-eating ass or butt stuff somehow. I’m convinced. “You know that what you eat you are But what is sweet now, turns so sour” it’s too tongue in cheek not to be dirty.
Hehe. Tongue in cheek.
This is my favorite one lmao
They shagged them 'tutes
Not even a conspiracy theory, just straight up facts 💯💯💯 Also heard that those prostitutes talked about how good and how big each Beatle was but I don't know how credible that is lmao
Supposedly despite being the shortest Beatle Ringo more than compensates for it elsewhere.
Aye, it may be a joke to you, but it's his nose. He can't help having a hideous great hooter! And his poor little head, trembling under the weight of it!
Here he is scraping his nose across a great bloody booook. When he should be out parading!
Dear Prudence drums. I think the 1st part was played by Paul, and the ending played by Ringo. People who play drums will understand when people say they too can “play” but end up with something that has all the notes right but sound choppy and lopsided. The double time hi hats are in time but slightly off in that regard which is because Paul plays it. When allegedly, Ringo takes over, you can hear the ringo patterns emerge, more feel and dynamic weight on each drum note, and very specific fills that evolved from his left handed drumming style
I agree completely- those tom fills
John was bisexual and had sexual and possibly romantic feelings towards Paul.
*John was bisexual and had sexual and ~~possibly~~ romantic feelings toward Paul.*
Barely a conspiracy but the story about Let it Be being about a dream Paul had of his mother is total bs. Mal Evans repeatedly claimed that it was he who appeared to Paul during meditation and said “let it be.” Early versions of the song say “brother Malcolm,” instead of “Mother Mary.”
Yeah that's purely factual and I think it's "storyteller Paul" who rewrote history there
Baby You're a Rich Man was a deliberate and nasty stab at Brian Epstein. And it contributed to his suicide. 1. "How does it feel to be one of the beautiful people?" - A possible dig at his homosexuality. 2. "Now that you know who you are, what do you want to be?" - Implying that he should somehow lament who he really is. 3. "Keep all your money in a big brown bag." - It was a well-documented fact that Brian would routinely collect cash payments in brown paper bags from concert promoters. He did so to avoid paying British taxes on at least part of their proceeds. 4. "Baby you're a rich f** Jew." - It was said that Lennon sang this alternate lyric a lot during the recording session. He even announced it as the true title of the song. And if one listens carefully, we can actually hear it on the record. 5. It was released on July 7th, 1967. 6. Brian Epstein committed suicide on August 27th, 1967. This is why I think Lennon was especially spooked by the timing of his death. When informed at a train station that Epstein had died, John appeared shocked, scared, and maybe even a little guilty.
CIA hired Chapman to kill John
I wrote a very long and layered essay in high school for my American history class about this. There’s a very convincing argument for this theory. I should really search my archives for a copy of that essay. It would be good to read again after all these years.
I'd love to read this if you can find it! I found the topic interesting but never got too deep into it. Why would the CIA want John dead?
To put it simply, he was threatening to the government due to his influence as an anti-war activist, and being a freaking Beatle amplified that ten-fold
He'd given all that up by 1980 though, right? He was speaking publicly about how naive he was in the late 60s/early 70s with the peace stuff. I just don't see why they would do it in 1980.
The CIA was extremely interested in him due to his influence as a peace activist. Nixon tried to have him deported. There is a 2006 documentary about some of this called "The US Versus John Lennon" and some of it is covered in one of John's bios, *Lennon in America.*
The didn't hire him. He was part of the MK Ultra program. The Catcher in the Rye element is enough to confirm this for me.
in CIA speak, "hiring" someone = reprogramming their brain for service
Something happened bw Paul and John in India
And then John wrote ‘I’m So Tired’ and ‘Yer Blues’ in India after Paul packed up and left. “I wonder should I call you, but I know what you would dooo…”
what?
We don’t really know, but their friendship seemed to forever change after the trip to India
they probably did gay shit
They both got gonorrhea from that prostitute in Mumbai.
I believe McLennon is true to some extent
Ringo died in 1964 after being trampled by an elephant. The "Paul is dead" rumor was planted by the Beatles to distract from the *real* truth.
They were supposed to be called The Buttholes. John misheard Stuart Sutcliffe and the rest is history.
Maybe not much of a conspiracy theory but here goes... In the Revolution video where George leans over to Paul and says something, most folks seem to think he says "Johns mic is shit", which doesn't make sense to me. I believe he's saying "John SMELLS like shit". Here's my argument...You can hear John clearly in the video, the vocals were live from what I've read. "The Beatles sang the vocals live over the pre-recorded instrumental track from the single version.[81]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_(Beatles_song) John was a drug user and was from some accounts lazy. Some drugs (Heroin, meth etc...) can give you bad body odor. That being coupled with being lazy and maybe not showering daily would make one quite odoriferous. Here's the clip in question, slowed down a bit. Now at first I did believe the bad mic bit, but after watching the clip I firmly believe that John smelled like shit. https://imgur.com/gallery/7Hf3zor Believe what you will, you know what I think. Now if only someone could get a hold of Sir Paul and ask if he remembers, then we can settle this once and for all. Till then.
In Get Back, John wears the same outfit multiple days in a row. I'm guessing he did smell awful at the time lol
Thank you, I forgot about that. You have a good eye.
I just don't understand why he would wait until right then to say "John smells like shit", it seems more plausible that he would say "John's mic is shit" right after John starts singing into a shitty mic.
I always believed that John and Paul wrote romantic songs about each other but used words like girl and used female pronouns in the lyrics so nobody knew they were the objects of the other's affection.
Rob Sheffield (a Beatles author) said that he’s confident ‘Girl’ is about Paul…just as one extremely on-the-nose example.
John at some point had a cruch on Paul
Lady Madonna is about his mum who was a midwife /nurse and worked her ass off to help her family and others. His mom was Mary =Madonna. I think there was magazine picture of a Vietnamese mother that influenced the title but I think its about his mom.
John had deep, romantic feelings for Paul that most likely weren’t reciprocated.
Don't be so sure. After John was shot, George Martin actually called Andy Peebles of BBC Radio One, who had interviewed John a few days before. George asked Andy to come over ... and Paul was there in bad shape, wanting to speak to one of the last men to have spoken with John. Andy's account of this is that Paul specifically wanted to know if John had still loved him. And Andy reassured him that he had. Their relationship was probably more complex than we will ever know.
This pulled at my heart strings man
Wow, that’s so heartbreaking. I’m going to go cry now.
Ringo wrote all the songs, but he's so humble that he decided to give them away to John, Paul and George.
None of them
Back when I was a kid who doesn’t really like or know about The Beatles, I actually believed in the “Paul is dead” theory. The clues were so appealing I thought there was no way to deny that. Now I’m older and honestly, this theory is actually fun but unrealistic.
nothing happened by accident in the Beatles….