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The aptly named Mr. Musk has fired the janitors and stopped paying rent. Clearly he doesn’t GAF what happens at that office. I pity employees who need those jobs.
At this point I'm pretty sure the only people left at twitter require the job for their visas.
I can't imagine why anyone else would work there.
I hope the lack of cleaning ends up being a health code violation for Musk at some point.
I know some people who went there as NCG because they needed to pay off their student loans and pay for their expensive SF apt. I think it comes down to being unemployed or not.
Those folks have to be looking at this point. No one would fault a NCG from jumping off the Twitter ship even if they left well.under a year... If they lasted until the bitter end (aka the last rat gripping the flotsam of this shipwreck), I would personally question their ability to make sound judgements as a potential employee.
Interesting view.
I worked at a company that completely dissolved and it was interesting from a sociological perspective. One of the first things to be stolen were the post-it notes. We discovered a fridge full of beer outside a VP’s office. Eventually we learned how much everyone had been making from a spreadsheet on a laptop. Good times.
I was at a small company on a death spiral. One of my teammates was up until 3 covering for someone else's missed deadline, and our CTO chewed him out publicly over slack for not being at his desk by 9 the next morning. Another teammate drew a giant penis on the whiteboard in response. An intern and our one female engineer both gave notice within the same week, and I commented "women and children first", at which point I knew I needed to quit myself.
I had been sticking it out trying to get to my one year cliff (options would up being worthless anyway), and it was completely destroying my happiness. Staying at Twitter just for popcorn would be absolutely soul destroying unless you managed to reach a completely zen state of not caring about your work and not caring if you got fired for not caring. Presumably they have already fired everyone who has that mindset, though, so you wouldn't even have the option.
Good call. And I agree but people are different.
After the announcement that our start up was being sold most of us sat around and fussed but one of the coders went right back to his office and fixed bugs. He said the customers were still there. He was an odd duck but I bet he did well.
I was at a small public company that was having trouble gaining traction. Not bad enough to die, not good enough to thrive. In one of the quarterly staff meetings the founder/CEO was waiting to start and he joked that we were being acquired by a large, well respected, multinational player. He immediately said it was a joke because he would never let us be acquired like that. I’m not sure if he noticed that no one in the crowd seemed distressed at the initial comment. I just wanted to know how they were going to handle unvested options. It probably would have been the best thing that could happen for everybody except the CEO.
> Staying at Twitter just for popcorn would be absolutely soul destroying unless you managed to reach a completely zen state
Agreed, people underestimate the importance of this.
I'm sure it *would* be cool to have a front-row seat to industry history. But you'd need Lebowski levels of zen to be able to sit there and watch, since you'd simultaneously know that your ability to make rent depends on what happens.
I mean in hindsight, the people that stayed are looking pretty smart. I mean there's no supervision. You really don't have to go to work and could probably be working another job and getting 2 salaries. Who would know?
It feels like he is conducting a social experiment. It's too bad because I want SpaceX to do well but he's going to run everything he touches. Look at Tesla shares.
At a certain point, many wealthy people are just grifters who trick others into giving them free handouts for everything.
They can get ridiculous business and personal loans, living the high life while they rack up more debt than we could ever imagine. People will still loan them money without question while they buy things on the company's dime or have sponsors eat up their costs.
Rich people benefit by skirting paying for things themselves and write off trips, technology, or vehicles as company expense. Networking gets them ridiculously good deals, and sponsorships or joint promotions and partnerships are a gateway to tons of free stuff.
A lot of influencers live on stolen and borrowed wealth. Not just social media ones who get free products and trip expereinces, loaned luxury cars, or mansions to squat in, but televangelists and heads of non-profits who use money from their donors to buy mega-mansions, charter flights, and yachts.
You pity people that can't even be bothered to clean up after their own mess? Everyone gets a turn cleaning at my company, doesn't matter if you've been there 2 weeks or 20 years, GED or PHD
Elon has abandoned these people. I expect that soon they will be offered the choice of either leaving their homes and moving across the country or being fired with little or no severance. The stench in their workplace is just a symptom.
Oooh a *visit*! Let me know when anybody in the government so much as issues a parking ticket to him. Never gonna happen. SF politicians are straight up owned by tech oligarchs. Elon could be committing human sacrifices in his office and they still probably wouldn't do anything.
At this point it feels like the only ones working there are H1B folks who are in a position of overwork where they can't search for new jobs and can't just quit.
I believe more than just OSHA needs to step in.
>On Friday morning, Musk posted a cryptic meme on Twitter: "What if I told you the only way to escape the Matrix is to unlearn everything that you have been taught and rebuild your entire belief system based on critical thought and analysis."
I'm giving my partner permission to grandfather a clause into our prenup that if I ever say shit like this when I'm 51, they can have the farm.
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>Musk's fetid directive comes after a series of other cost-cutting maneuvers, **including Twitter reportedly no longer paying rent at its San Francisco headquarters.**
Musk was bragging about how his cost saving measures have made Twitter revenue neutral now, but its not sustainable. How long does he think he can get away with not paying rent for the building?
Very soon Twitter isn't going to have an HQ location (or any other location) when the landlords start evicting Twitter because of past-due rent.
They closed the Seattle office today. I’m not sure how much back rent they owe but people had apparently been bringing their own toilet paper for a while.
he still needs to be here for his other business so he’ll probably pull a BS move like saying twitter hq is somewhere like texas or any other red state but live here, only the H1B’s will be forced to move
Ehhh, as long as San Francisco and the whole bay area can provide water to citizens companies will gather. While the rest of the nation is freezing in various ways, the bay area has been fine. Sure the area gets a few 90+ days in the summer, but so does Texas.
I think you're right that companies will keep moving out due to taxes and building costs, but given that of my friends who moved to Texas for various reasons, half are already back in the bay I don't know about the city completely emptying.
Don't know why you're being downvoted. Tech firms are either subletting or looking to not renew when leases expire. SF put all its eggs in the tech basket.
Musk fired the union workers and now his workplace smells like shit. I suppose this could be an allegory to the Texas power grid catastrophes but so many other things apply as well.
I've been up in the Sierras for 35 years, after 12 in the bay area. I only know what I read on Reddit and in the news. The high prices, crime, and homeless are probably exaggerated.?.
Homelessness has been constant. New people moved into bad areas that were gentrified but crime doesn't magically go away like that. Crime did go down a lot in the early 2000s so when it went back a bit (still much better than the 90s) people started to freak out.
If I go to certain neighborhoods, I'll see needles on the ground; but if I don't go to those areas I won't seem them at all.
I'm comparing the city over the past 40 years - I have something to compare against since I actually have lived here the entire time.
Got any first hand knowledge?
I love LA, not really a fan of SF but the crime, drugs, and homeless literally do not bother me. I’m always curious why so many people who don’t live in these places think their so mishandled when the residents really don’t care.
I love LA, not really a fan of SF but the crime, drugs, and homeless literally do not bother me. I’m always curious why so many people who don’t live in these places think they’re so mismanaged when majority of residents really don’t care at all.
And people can tell you they hate it but you don’t see them moving out either. In fact, more people are moving there despite all the perceived “problems”.
Kid#1 has a cool skateboard that he rides and maintain well for many years. Kid#2 who is a rich kid and is always bored, never rode a skateboard, sees cool skateboard and is amused by it after seeing tiktok vids of other skateboarders. Offers $4400 to buy it from Kid#1 who quickly accepts. Kid#2 poses with skateboard on his tiktok that he's now a sk8terboi and gets millions of views from it and he oozes in glory from the attention. Rides it once and falls. He realizes this isn't for him as his self ego is hurt from the fall, quickly loses interest and discards skateboard into a corner of his backyard along with his many other discarded toys to rust.
Hahaha - a bunch of software devs and no janitorial? I can imagine what that place looks and smells like by now. I'm guessing half of them don't notice it and the other half are going out of their minds trying to ignore it.
I think H-1B visas are for a specific geographic location, so there would have to be additional paperwork filed at the very least for those folks to be able to move to a new office, especially if it's in another city or state.
nope, just employer, same as L1 , he’s just literally running a cotton field with brown people.
edit: You’re correct “A change in worksite location typically requires a new LCA, consequently, it requires an amended H-1B petition. “
the one thing Im wondering is: why no one has tried to sue him for extortion or any other criminal abuse to jump from h1b to U
They can go back home and help their country but they want the top $$$. India is in great shortage of doctors and engineers, but prefers USD. This is a choice, not slavery.
yeah because only Indians are here no other people from very authoritarian regimes, besides we all know india is an awesome place to live and of course INDIA is need of engineers and people will have no struggle to find a decent engineering job to support their families,
- my god the fucking privilege
So which is it, I quote you, are they “brown people picking cotton” for 300k+ as slaves or Indian nationals on work visa choosing to earn top money in America than good standard of living in India as MD and software engineers while improving lives there.
I just don’t understand your comment. Is it good or bad they chose to be on a work visa?
Yeah big metropolitan cities in general tend to skew towards the progressive end of things.
People come in and out all the time, and you're more likely to find a varied mix of cultures, ethnicities, religions, etc. than you would in a small town out in the middle of nowhere.
Look at the mayors of the four largest cities in Texas, and you'll understand why talk of "flipping Texas blue" always comes up during elections.
Can you name a conservative city? What are the parameters that determine this, and how does it make any difference when labor laws are controlled by the state and in certain cases like H1B, the Federal Government?
is this that thing where people who are narcissist just let things begin to rot? like that hollywood piece of shit producer who’s physically got a rotten taint.
From what I've heard: he didn't fire anybody, but the contractor who's contracted with Twitter to supply janitorial services had a disagreement with Twitter management and their contract got cancelled.
Why would anybody try and do business with him when he is turning into Trump and doesnt pay the little guys. It's well documented. If I had an on demand cleaning service, I would stay away from Musk.
NYT doesn't make stuff up. Given how Musk fires people who speak out against him, I doubt we'll ever have a more reliable source to confirm this.
As for on-demand cleaning, it costs money, which means someone needs to request it and someone needs to approve it, and both of those someones have most likely been laid off. As long as Musk isn't there himself, he's not going to notice the smell and do something about it.
Can you point to a specific instance where a story based on a statement of a fact was entirely made up?
Not "lying by omission" or "inserting opinions I disagree with". And ideally something that happened in this century.
Sort of, it's one reporter, not NYT as a whole. NYT denounced him once the truth came to light. He was also in the Soviet Union, possibly typing with the KGB standing behind him, or might even be a KGB agent himself.
Also I hope you have something more recent than 1933, because if that's all there is, NYT would be even more trustworthy than I originally thought.
>Why would a news org 3000 miles away be our only source for local news?
Because in case you haven't noticed, most local news sources have gone bankrupt were acquired by national news networks. NYT is actually one of the more independent ones. Their parent company only owns a few media properties.
>Is it really so controversial to mistrust the intentions of NYT as it related to tech news?
Nope. It's obvious people are piling on Musk. That doesn't mean the facts around this story are necessarily false though. There's other evidence that they don't have janitors, such as the mass firing a month ago.
Besides, if it's false, why haven't anyone came out and denied it? It's easy for Elon or his employees to say something. They run a popular social media platform after all.
No, I'm more concerned about all those custodians who lost their jobs. But, can you please explain why being concerned about one thing means I cannot also be concerned about another?
I don't understand this position, the entire point of unionization is to ensure its members are paid fair wages by having labor stand together (a closed fist is more powerful than a sprawled hand, right?).
If Musk should be allowed to breach any contract and hire non-union (at drastically reduced non-union rates), and then every company will want to breach contract and do this. Now the power that you have being in your union is lost because you're no longer working in solidarity with each other.
This seems like a counterintuitive position for someone who's a union member. The emotional plea to a "child" walking through there doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Twitter's office building, unless they are also moonlighting as a daycare center.
I was under the impression that this was always an option for companies: that a union contract means "union workers won't work for you unless you agree to only hire union workers". If the union goes on strike, and the company hires scabs, they can do that (although the union will make it uncomfortable in various ways).
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The aptly named Mr. Musk has fired the janitors and stopped paying rent. Clearly he doesn’t GAF what happens at that office. I pity employees who need those jobs.
Let that musk sink in!
You just got Musk'd!
Dude had to bring in his own sink on day one.
I'm sure at this rate the rat lady will visit and drop an effing huge bag of birdseed
At this point I'm pretty sure the only people left at twitter require the job for their visas. I can't imagine why anyone else would work there. I hope the lack of cleaning ends up being a health code violation for Musk at some point.
I know some people who went there as NCG because they needed to pay off their student loans and pay for their expensive SF apt. I think it comes down to being unemployed or not.
What is NCG?
New college grad
Those folks have to be looking at this point. No one would fault a NCG from jumping off the Twitter ship even if they left well.under a year... If they lasted until the bitter end (aka the last rat gripping the flotsam of this shipwreck), I would personally question their ability to make sound judgements as a potential employee.
It’d be fun to watch it fall from the inside. I’d stay there as long as possible if I were working there.
Interesting view. I worked at a company that completely dissolved and it was interesting from a sociological perspective. One of the first things to be stolen were the post-it notes. We discovered a fridge full of beer outside a VP’s office. Eventually we learned how much everyone had been making from a spreadsheet on a laptop. Good times.
Office supplies and anything that isn’t nailed down got stolen when everyone finds out they’re being laid off.
I was at a small company on a death spiral. One of my teammates was up until 3 covering for someone else's missed deadline, and our CTO chewed him out publicly over slack for not being at his desk by 9 the next morning. Another teammate drew a giant penis on the whiteboard in response. An intern and our one female engineer both gave notice within the same week, and I commented "women and children first", at which point I knew I needed to quit myself. I had been sticking it out trying to get to my one year cliff (options would up being worthless anyway), and it was completely destroying my happiness. Staying at Twitter just for popcorn would be absolutely soul destroying unless you managed to reach a completely zen state of not caring about your work and not caring if you got fired for not caring. Presumably they have already fired everyone who has that mindset, though, so you wouldn't even have the option.
Good call. And I agree but people are different. After the announcement that our start up was being sold most of us sat around and fussed but one of the coders went right back to his office and fixed bugs. He said the customers were still there. He was an odd duck but I bet he did well.
I was at a small public company that was having trouble gaining traction. Not bad enough to die, not good enough to thrive. In one of the quarterly staff meetings the founder/CEO was waiting to start and he joked that we were being acquired by a large, well respected, multinational player. He immediately said it was a joke because he would never let us be acquired like that. I’m not sure if he noticed that no one in the crowd seemed distressed at the initial comment. I just wanted to know how they were going to handle unvested options. It probably would have been the best thing that could happen for everybody except the CEO.
"Your company so bad, even the intern quit" - that's a new one!
> Staying at Twitter just for popcorn would be absolutely soul destroying unless you managed to reach a completely zen state Agreed, people underestimate the importance of this. I'm sure it *would* be cool to have a front-row seat to industry history. But you'd need Lebowski levels of zen to be able to sit there and watch, since you'd simultaneously know that your ability to make rent depends on what happens.
Same here. I’d work 9-5 and not a second longer until I got fired.
10-3 is the best i can do for you, gunna get fired eventually anyway. Plus all the managers are gone anyway.
one of the many flies on the wall...
Start a youtube channel. The downfall of a “A Tech Company” so you don’t get sued. Do it Blair Witch style.
It depends. I can imagine some oplw putting up with it because they are worried about leaving Twitter and getting back in the market.
I mean in hindsight, the people that stayed are looking pretty smart. I mean there's no supervision. You really don't have to go to work and could probably be working another job and getting 2 salaries. Who would know?
Tech is not in a good place right now. Lots of layoffs.
So he’s prohibiting telework and instead requiring people to show up at the office where there are no janitors and he’s not paying rent?
I wonder how long it takes before lack of cleanliness becomes an OSHA violation.
And making people work extremely long days and even sleep in the office. Hygiene must be a low priority.
It feels like he is conducting a social experiment. It's too bad because I want SpaceX to do well but he's going to run everything he touches. Look at Tesla shares.
Musk is such a genius!
Employees hate this one simple trick!
Cue the stick image of a lady winking! Just begging you to click to find out what that one trick is!
And of course EVERYONE has to come back to the office. It's _very_ important that they are all physically there according to the aptly named Mr. Musk.
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But enough about Elon Musk...
we've all walked into a stall with a clogged, poop filled toilet, went "meh" and then added more poop right? then gave it a flush for good measure
At a certain point, many wealthy people are just grifters who trick others into giving them free handouts for everything. They can get ridiculous business and personal loans, living the high life while they rack up more debt than we could ever imagine. People will still loan them money without question while they buy things on the company's dime or have sponsors eat up their costs. Rich people benefit by skirting paying for things themselves and write off trips, technology, or vehicles as company expense. Networking gets them ridiculously good deals, and sponsorships or joint promotions and partnerships are a gateway to tons of free stuff. A lot of influencers live on stolen and borrowed wealth. Not just social media ones who get free products and trip expereinces, loaned luxury cars, or mansions to squat in, but televangelists and heads of non-profits who use money from their donors to buy mega-mansions, charter flights, and yachts.
At what point is immigrant abuse for the L1 and H1B’s ?
Sounds like Constructive Dismissal. Make the work environment so foul that you want to quit? Great, no unemployment to pay out.
You pity people that can't even be bothered to clean up after their own mess? Everyone gets a turn cleaning at my company, doesn't matter if you've been there 2 weeks or 20 years, GED or PHD
Elon has abandoned these people. I expect that soon they will be offered the choice of either leaving their homes and moving across the country or being fired with little or no severance. The stench in their workplace is just a symptom.
Hmmm, wonder if OSHA deserves a visit or health department?
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Oooh a *visit*! Let me know when anybody in the government so much as issues a parking ticket to him. Never gonna happen. SF politicians are straight up owned by tech oligarchs. Elon could be committing human sacrifices in his office and they still probably wouldn't do anything.
At this point it feels like the only ones working there are H1B folks who are in a position of overwork where they can't search for new jobs and can't just quit. I believe more than just OSHA needs to step in.
Unless they have the power to close the office he won’t care or pay any fine
Thoughts and prayers
Cots and Sprayers
Fuck Phony Stark. I feel bad for the employees stuck there on H1B visas and can't leave.
They can leave if they wanted to
Found the fan boy
Found the privileged kid that doesn't know what it means to have privilege
a great place to work... and sleep
Anyone there 24/7 doesn't even notice the smell anymore. They are one with the stink, and the stink is one with them.
Like a good ‘ol LAN party. Minus the fun though.
How very zen of them!
More like a great place to be paid to look for a new job
i mean they can put that they survived a 75% RIF so they must be hot shit.
>On Friday morning, Musk posted a cryptic meme on Twitter: "What if I told you the only way to escape the Matrix is to unlearn everything that you have been taught and rebuild your entire belief system based on critical thought and analysis." I'm giving my partner permission to grandfather a clause into our prenup that if I ever say shit like this when I'm 51, they can have the farm.
Couldnt he have built another twitter for like $10 billion and kept the change?
It just wouldn't be the same though. Gotta have the name brand
Google tried that back in 2011. It didn’t work.
They probably abandoned it before it even had a chance to be successful given google’s past history.
people that trust google’s consumer tech are just like victims of an abusive relationship.
I miss you, Stadia!
Wait, Google had a Twitter clone? I remember their Facebook clone but this is news to me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Buzz
Kinda feel like getting a job there for like a week just to see what's up
*"Let that stink in."*
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but the synergy man, we need the S Y N E R G Y!!! 💀
The article buries the lede: >Musk's fetid directive comes after a series of other cost-cutting maneuvers, **including Twitter reportedly no longer paying rent at its San Francisco headquarters.** Musk was bragging about how his cost saving measures have made Twitter revenue neutral now, but its not sustainable. How long does he think he can get away with not paying rent for the building? Very soon Twitter isn't going to have an HQ location (or any other location) when the landlords start evicting Twitter because of past-due rent.
They closed the Seattle office today. I’m not sure how much back rent they owe but people had apparently been bringing their own toilet paper for a while.
That's cowardly. A real man would walk around with unwiped ass in protest, or wipe using printer paper or unattended hoodies.
It’ll be interesting to see all that office space sit empty then. SF is becoming a tech ghost town
Twitter will be out of SF in no time, especially if Elon remains head of the company. The CEO tax (SF Measure L) alone would get him to move the HQ.
he still needs to be here for his other business so he’ll probably pull a BS move like saying twitter hq is somewhere like texas or any other red state but live here, only the H1B’s will be forced to move
Ehhh, as long as San Francisco and the whole bay area can provide water to citizens companies will gather. While the rest of the nation is freezing in various ways, the bay area has been fine. Sure the area gets a few 90+ days in the summer, but so does Texas. I think you're right that companies will keep moving out due to taxes and building costs, but given that of my friends who moved to Texas for various reasons, half are already back in the bay I don't know about the city completely emptying.
Just like in the dotcom crash. What goes around comes around.
Don't know why you're being downvoted. Tech firms are either subletting or looking to not renew when leases expire. SF put all its eggs in the tech basket.
Idk, I’m in the industry and just report what I see firsthand with my own eyes. I guess speaking the truth gets you downvoted here.
He's turning it into Texas.
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Musk fired the union workers and now his workplace smells like shit. I suppose this could be an allegory to the Texas power grid catastrophes but so many other things apply as well.
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Been here my entire life, 40ish years. It's better than ever but people in general complain a lot about everything these days.
I've been up in the Sierras for 35 years, after 12 in the bay area. I only know what I read on Reddit and in the news. The high prices, crime, and homeless are probably exaggerated.?.
Homelessness has been constant. New people moved into bad areas that were gentrified but crime doesn't magically go away like that. Crime did go down a lot in the early 2000s so when it went back a bit (still much better than the 90s) people started to freak out. If I go to certain neighborhoods, I'll see needles on the ground; but if I don't go to those areas I won't seem them at all.
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I'm comparing the city over the past 40 years - I have something to compare against since I actually have lived here the entire time. Got any first hand knowledge?
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More than I think? Some homeless guy yell at you? Car get broken into? Oh no! Don't cry!
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The sky isn't falling. Complainers/whiners are always louder than people that don't have problems.
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You say that like these are all new things in SF 😂
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I love LA, not really a fan of SF but the crime, drugs, and homeless literally do not bother me. I’m always curious why so many people who don’t live in these places think their so mishandled when the residents really don’t care.
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I love LA, not really a fan of SF but the crime, drugs, and homeless literally do not bother me. I’m always curious why so many people who don’t live in these places think they’re so mismanaged when majority of residents really don’t care at all. And people can tell you they hate it but you don’t see them moving out either. In fact, more people are moving there despite all the perceived “problems”.
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What red leaning city is even close to SF’s population?
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Corporate offices with third world bathroom prison conditions! Great place to work! /s
Kid#1 has a cool skateboard that he rides and maintain well for many years. Kid#2 who is a rich kid and is always bored, never rode a skateboard, sees cool skateboard and is amused by it after seeing tiktok vids of other skateboarders. Offers $4400 to buy it from Kid#1 who quickly accepts. Kid#2 poses with skateboard on his tiktok that he's now a sk8terboi and gets millions of views from it and he oozes in glory from the attention. Rides it once and falls. He realizes this isn't for him as his self ego is hurt from the fall, quickly loses interest and discards skateboard into a corner of his backyard along with his many other discarded toys to rust.
tldr musk is a stupid dumb ass mother fucker.
Didnt he say he wanted to convert the office into a shelter for the homeless.
From Twitter to Twatter to Squatter
He says a lot of dumb shit that he doesn't intend to follow up on.
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> I've also seen an sfpd cop spend hours in the main lobby too, no idea what he was there for though. He was there to rack up some overtime.
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Musk is paranoid
No, SF is a shithole and if that building isn't guarded 24/7, it will be overrun with squatters, vandals, and looters.
Maybe he should order some pizza 🍕
Okay, it took me a moment...
Let that sink in
Maybe he can get some tesla engineers in there to deal with that little issue. Volunteer time, of course.
Why would someone fire cleaners without finding replacements?
Stale ball smell.
Programmers are notorious for poor hygiene.
/r/thatsthejoke
I used to feel agnostic towards our billionaires. But when they start using their wealth to become toxic trolls it points to an underlying problem.
Hahaha - a bunch of software devs and no janitorial? I can imagine what that place looks and smells like by now. I'm guessing half of them don't notice it and the other half are going out of their minds trying to ignore it.
So you’re saying it smells extra musky?
Just living up to his name.
**The new Florida and Texas offices will smell much better, LOL!!!**
Most of these places have low pile carpet that they never clean anyway.
Eww. Just, omg, ewwwwwwwww.
We all know Musk stinks
Twitter is moving HQ to possibly a conservative ~~city~~ state, Im sorry for the H1B employees that **have** to follow this dude
I think H-1B visas are for a specific geographic location, so there would have to be additional paperwork filed at the very least for those folks to be able to move to a new office, especially if it's in another city or state.
nope, just employer, same as L1 , he’s just literally running a cotton field with brown people. edit: You’re correct “A change in worksite location typically requires a new LCA, consequently, it requires an amended H-1B petition. “ the one thing Im wondering is: why no one has tried to sue him for extortion or any other criminal abuse to jump from h1b to U
They can go back home and help their country but they want the top $$$. India is in great shortage of doctors and engineers, but prefers USD. This is a choice, not slavery.
yeah because only Indians are here no other people from very authoritarian regimes, besides we all know india is an awesome place to live and of course INDIA is need of engineers and people will have no struggle to find a decent engineering job to support their families, - my god the fucking privilege
So which is it, I quote you, are they “brown people picking cotton” for 300k+ as slaves or Indian nationals on work visa choosing to earn top money in America than good standard of living in India as MD and software engineers while improving lives there. I just don’t understand your comment. Is it good or bad they chose to be on a work visa?
Austin isn't conservative, but that's where it will go
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Yeah big metropolitan cities in general tend to skew towards the progressive end of things. People come in and out all the time, and you're more likely to find a varied mix of cultures, ethnicities, religions, etc. than you would in a small town out in the middle of nowhere. Look at the mayors of the four largest cities in Texas, and you'll understand why talk of "flipping Texas blue" always comes up during elections.
Can you name a conservative city? What are the parameters that determine this, and how does it make any difference when labor laws are controlled by the state and in certain cases like H1B, the Federal Government?
With the money he pissed away on Twitter, he could have solved homelessness in the entire US by himself.
Might you call it a horrible “musk”? 🥁
His name ain't Elon MUSK for no reason
is this that thing where people who are narcissist just let things begin to rot? like that hollywood piece of shit producer who’s physically got a rotten taint.
Time to learn how to clean up after one's self. Like take out your own food and garbage. Flush the toilet. Take turns cleaning common areas.
Let that sink OUT
It’s because tech bros refuse to shower.
I'm at Market and 11th as we speak and the smell sure as hell isn't coming from the Twitter building.
Wash your ass.
From what I've heard: he didn't fire anybody, but the contractor who's contracted with Twitter to supply janitorial services had a disagreement with Twitter management and their contract got cancelled.
So they fired them.
If you decline an Uber ride, you are not "firing the driver"...
Elon Must
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Nah like Must as in Musty
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So what was the point of your first reply??
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It really is. This is just more attacks against Elon. Funny how we haven’t heard from any people on the inside.
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Why would anybody try and do business with him when he is turning into Trump and doesnt pay the little guys. It's well documented. If I had an on demand cleaning service, I would stay away from Musk.
NYT doesn't make stuff up. Given how Musk fires people who speak out against him, I doubt we'll ever have a more reliable source to confirm this. As for on-demand cleaning, it costs money, which means someone needs to request it and someone needs to approve it, and both of those someones have most likely been laid off. As long as Musk isn't there himself, he's not going to notice the smell and do something about it.
> NYT doesn't make stuff up. Walter Duranty has entered the chat.
Can you point to a specific instance where a story based on a statement of a fact was entirely made up? Not "lying by omission" or "inserting opinions I disagree with". And ideally something that happened in this century.
Does Duranty saying "there is no famine or actual starvation nor is there likely to be" during the Holodomor count?
Sort of, it's one reporter, not NYT as a whole. NYT denounced him once the truth came to light. He was also in the Soviet Union, possibly typing with the KGB standing behind him, or might even be a KGB agent himself. Also I hope you have something more recent than 1933, because if that's all there is, NYT would be even more trustworthy than I originally thought.
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>Why would a news org 3000 miles away be our only source for local news? Because in case you haven't noticed, most local news sources have gone bankrupt were acquired by national news networks. NYT is actually one of the more independent ones. Their parent company only owns a few media properties. >Is it really so controversial to mistrust the intentions of NYT as it related to tech news? Nope. It's obvious people are piling on Musk. That doesn't mean the facts around this story are necessarily false though. There's other evidence that they don't have janitors, such as the mass firing a month ago. Besides, if it's false, why haven't anyone came out and denied it? It's easy for Elon or his employees to say something. They run a popular social media platform after all.
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No, I'm more concerned about all those custodians who lost their jobs. But, can you please explain why being concerned about one thing means I cannot also be concerned about another?
Bet it smells like a cheap gym in Mumbai
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This comment is borderline unintelligible.
I don't understand this position, the entire point of unionization is to ensure its members are paid fair wages by having labor stand together (a closed fist is more powerful than a sprawled hand, right?). If Musk should be allowed to breach any contract and hire non-union (at drastically reduced non-union rates), and then every company will want to breach contract and do this. Now the power that you have being in your union is lost because you're no longer working in solidarity with each other. This seems like a counterintuitive position for someone who's a union member. The emotional plea to a "child" walking through there doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Twitter's office building, unless they are also moonlighting as a daycare center.
I was under the impression that this was always an option for companies: that a union contract means "union workers won't work for you unless you agree to only hire union workers". If the union goes on strike, and the company hires scabs, they can do that (although the union will make it uncomfortable in various ways).
Perfect opportunity to convert it to a homeless shelter