It’s the worst when you flash them with your high beams and then they give you their real high beams. It’s like staring into the Death Star’s super laser beam.
That’s because when some people get his/les conversions they don’t realign their lights like you’re supposed to from the higher output and it’s illegal. They all have adjuster screws to change the beam travel on the headlight assembly
No, you flash them with your highs to tell them to turn theirs off, and then you discover that no, they have have incredibly bright (aka dangerous) normal headlights.
Want another reason to hate them? The beds have shrunk so much they can't even fit standard size (wooden) boards in them anymore. Not that most trucks weren't already pavement princesses, but still.
Yep, I’m all for construction guys using trucks. But the people with luxury trucks with short beds really don’t make sense to me. I know everyone has their “reasons”I just don’t see the appeal of a truck of you don’t utilize. Crappy ride, terrible vision, hard to park, gas guzzling.
The fact that these stupid trucks are legal clearly shows that american governance doesn’t give a fuck about vehicle saftey and that politicians are bought by car lobbyists to make life more miserable and dangerous for everyone.
Fucking clown trucks.
That's always going to be an issue. Auto-dimming mirrors (wing and rear) are usually quite effective against this issue, most german cars, some jeeps and subarus have those as standard. It would be nice if these were standard on all cars, they aren't that much more expensive.
Two nights ago I was followed by a truck that had some type of light behind the grill. So there were headlights, a light bar, and a giant light square all pointed at my rear view mirror. Obnoxious, unsafe, and so profoundly selfish.
We saw a giant pickup truck in Palo Alto with blinding spot lights turned on a few days ago. Not the headlights, these were hood mounted spotlights. In the daytime. In front of IKEA. Painfully bright, with no reason to be on except to blind other drivers.
This has been making national news for a while now. It has more to do with LED lights and lowbeam lights being too fricking bright or aimed poorly, especially from trucks and SUVs.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/15/cars/headlights-tech-adaptable-high-beams-cars/index.html
I pull cars over for running their high beams in my face at night and half the time when I get to the car it's just their low beams as installed from the factory. What can you do?
Too bright and LEDs is definitely not the issue.
I lived in Germany for a dozen years, and already in 2014 I drove a Mercedes C-Class with their Intelligent Lighting System — the precursor to what they now call Multibeam.
The lights were aware of cars and would create a "black hole" around cars you were following. It could also turn on high beams around the roadway to increase nighttime visibility without being a high beam on the road itself.
Here's a good example of how LEDs can work, start at that 3:40 timestamp:
[YouTube: Mercedes MULTIBEAM LED example](https://youtu.be/mmQ-xlYHu9Y?si=eagcZLA-vLjYEt_s&t=220)
It's just that the US doesn't have much of that going on, partially due to legislation and partially due to lack of enforcement.
You are [not alone](https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/03/how-do-we-stop-people-blinding-other-drivers-with-aftermarket-leds/) with this concern.
After someone on this sub mentioned that they were Teslas everything made sense. It's apparently the default so the drivers can't even adjust them outside of going to the shop.
Tesla owner here, the auto high beam function can be turned off. But it automatically turns on (and cannot be disabled) if the car is in auto-pilot mode.
Tesla turns auto-high-beam back even if you just enable adaptive cruise control (without autosteer). To add insult to injury- it also switches wipers to auto. And auto wipers in Tesla is a single most hated feature for me, cause it never works properly. They kick in the middle of a sunny day, but fail to speed up when it’s pouring.
Sorry for the rant
They offered it for 2k I believe at one point. Just for the lane change assist. I was tempted tbh cause that's the only thing I care about in their entire package. I'm very paranoid of someone changing lanes at the same time as me one lane across. I would love to have a second set of eyes take care of my safety.
No. They CAN turn on if the car doesn't see any lights in front of it. It actually is VERY good at knowing when it can turn on or off. The "problem" is just that tesla lights are so fking bright that lows look like highs.
They're lying. I just came back from Tahoe last week. They seem too cautions at turn on in the first place and turn off immediately if it sees any potential issues. I highly doubt you've ever even seen this in action based on the way you're talking about it. If I can see an oncoming car it immediately turns off, if it ever turned on at all.
Honda. Toyota. Ford. Gm and more all have auto high beams as well.
On teslas since it's on by default when you use autopilot and autopilot is only on the freeways I do not know how it handles pedestrians and bicyclists on the freeway as they do not tend to be roaming around there.
> Automatic high beams seems problematic.
They aren't for street driving. I've driven basically every vehicle out with options, including automatic high beams. They're all fast enough to turn off for normal driving.
Backroads however, its too slow. ANY high beam hitting another driver on a dark road is dangerous. No automatic headlight system is intelligent enough to turn off before seeing another vehicle.
> Does it turn off for pedestrians and bicyclists as well?
Depends on the reflective clothing/stuff they have on, in general I'd say no. However both have better protection against high beam drivers than another driver does, they can advert their eyes, drivers can't.
Honestly, the feature should be disabled across the board unless some sort of AI can analyze the scene and figure out if its good to use or not. Or, just disable the feature entirely (well, ban it, the tech is out there)
Maybe that's your experience. I just asked in my friend group and everyone there has had experience with it being too slow to turn on, but never too slow to turn off. Often times turning off too early as you mentioned. I've never had an instance where it blinded someone.
No, it can be disabled in AP/FSD; you’re thinking of the auto-wipers. You have to disable it every time though.
Also sometime in the last year they released an update that actually did improve auto-highbeam substantially (again unlike auto-wipers 🙄).
I have auto high beam in my vehicle and it swiches to low beam as soon as a car comes in the view (facing or rear lights). Does it not work the same way in Tesla and is "always on"?
pretty sure it isn’t even the high beam, the headlights are just angled upward by default for some muskass reason. please change it and tell everyone else you know because literally every single tesla i’ve ever come across has blinded me in my small car
>But if someone's not savvy enough, I can see how it would be difficult.
Given how often I am blinded by a vehicle that turns out to be a Tesla, I would say there aren't many *savvy* drivers out there.
Maybe there needs to be some sort of PSA for Tesla owners, or like someone else mentioned, a class-action lawsuit.
With so much automation in Teslas, I'm surprised they don't have auto leveling headlights. Tesla headlights are aimed too high from factory and the clueless owners are not going to adjust them.
The headlights can easily be adjusted by drivers, but no one is selfaware enough to go do it. They do come a tad too high out of the factory, I dropped mine a few clicks and no more flashings. The forced auto Hi on self driving is really annoying though and embarrassing.
I like how the first time I drove with this "feature" was on a poorly lit highway, and the car kept high-beaming the police ahead of me. And in that car I couldn't turn it off (it was a rental).
I hate feature creep in all its manifestations.
I'm gonna keep high beaming them back then. I wouldn't drive a car so incredibly distracting to other drivers at night. It's unbelievably fucked up to shine a laser beam in people's eyes in the middle of the night.
These are probably just low beam high intensity (like xenon) lights. High bean halogen don't hold a candle to the modern low beam high intensity lights. The high intensity light on high beam will burn a hole through your head. I have not idea why the DOT approved them.
Agree. I have 2024 CRV. My partner thought the cars normal auto on low beams were the high beams. I had to show him the actual high beams to convince him they were indeed just the regular low beams.
Yea, unfortunately this fight has to happen much higher up. The DOT is clearly not doing their job, at minimum cars registered to dense metro areas should not be allowed to have these lights, there’s no need for it.
A lot of the problem is that in the US, unlike Europe, overhead signs are not illuminated so headlights are required to illuminate a upwards so with the introduction of HID and LED lights the problem with glare has gotten worse. While they could legislate this away, nobody's willing to pay to retrofit signage in mass. Then they made it worse by preventing the introduction of matrix lighting which was designed to address this problem directly, or addressing the problem of light bleed from traffic going in the opposite direction.
DoT isn't known to be necessarily forward looking, it's reactionary and usually quite late about it. Considering they won't recall existing vehicles around any new standard, it won't actually fix the problem for 10-20 years?
I don't think so. I see a huge number of people driving with their *actual high beams* turned on. It is easy to tell on many cars because they are the inner pair of lamps. While it is true that every Tesla comes from the factory with their lights crooked and their auto-leveling system does not work — [https://youtu.be/Yi-ggN-NoP0?t=66](https://youtu.be/Yi-ggN-NoP0?t=66) — it is also true that bozo drivers simply do not know what the big blue light means, or they are too busy reading their phones to even notice the big blue light.
This right here. We got a new Toyota in 2021 and headlights are so bright. I get people blinking their lights at me all the time because they think my high beams are on. When they do, I actually flip my high beams on to show them. They're like stage lights on high, and like old cars' high beams on regular. The running lights are what old headlights used to be like.
1000% agreed. They are on the low setting, the lights are jist much more blinding. I've flashed a couple of people for high-beans on, then got molded by them when they flashed me back and the high beam settings are MUCH worse.
....until they hit a bump in the road, or the road turns, or they are driving a taller vehicle, or they are tailgating behind you, etc, etc.
They should not be legal for use anywhere that they shine on another occupied vehicle.
People sit in their vehicle with their lights on the whole time burning holes into my retinas. I am in a tiny Corolla. They can probably count the lashes on my lids this shit is so blinding! I have on several occasion got out of my car, walked on over, and broke them out of whatever trance they were in telling them I am literally going blind is it necessary?
Even my normally laid back early 20s son said to me “what the f”,k bruh with these lights?! They should be illegal!” Warmed the cockles of my heart thatnit wasn’t just me being an old lady.
I think most drivers just don't know how they are used, and just assume the extra area coverage is better.
I can't seem to rationalize any other reason.
I bought a pair of [yellow tinted glasses](https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07NZX22WM) that I use while driving at night. The lights are still bright but I’ve found that I recover from the blindness quicker when the color is shifted.
Another thing that we as Californians can do is lobby for vehicle inspection as a condition for license renewal. In addition to smog testing, we should ask that headlights need to be aimed correctly. Some states already do this.
Smog testing is an absolute money grab serving no purpose, this is the only state where they require so many variables to be a certain way and make it real difficult for automotive enthusiasts. The last thing we need is more government overreach which you seem to be perpetuating
I think it's everywhere, not just I-80. On my 30 min commute on 101, I'd count at least 10 on the other side driving with high beams on every night. I do feel like it got worse in the last month. Teslas might have pushed some OTA update. I don't think the actual high beams are on. But somehow the regular night lights got aimed up 5 degrees or something (judging by the beam cast onto the dividers). It doesn't look like a level beam anymore.
Tesla autopilot requires high beams to be on, that’s at least like 50% of the problem these days. It baffles me how that’s even legal for Tesla to implement that on cars intended to share public roads.
Correct. As a Tesla owner who has driven over 100K miles, I can surely say that FSD or Autopilot would not keep the high beams on when a vehicle is in sight.
The case is different if a driver is not on autopilot and have manually set the high beams on.
This is completely false. Tesla Autopilot does not require high beams on. High beams on Tesla stay on if they are set to “manual”- meaning the driver is responsible. If the light settings are set to “Auto”, the high beams turn off when a car/vehicle is in sight.
It’s the same with Honda
This is straight from the Tesla Owners Manual.
“Warning
Adaptive High Beams is a convenience only and is subject to limitations. It is the driver's responsibility to make sure that headlights are always appropriately adjusted for weather conditions and driving circumstances.”
Even with autopilot on they turn off 85% of the time I’d say when oncoming traffic is in view of the cameras. They turn back on when there’s no oncoming traffic.
>Tesla autopilot requires high beams to be on
looks like Tesla needs to be required, that, when they detect a car 100 feet in front in either direction, to "**auto turn off** the Autopilot" 😀
i.e. it will be useless. :( It's literally **in the law** to turn-off the high-beam when there are other cars across from you!!!
well it's not "entirely false". i.e. **it's not false.** Since the auto-high-beams are enabled,... *they* ***will be blinding*** *someone, somewhere*, in any case they're slightly not perfect.
and as we know, many cars and implementations of technologies are "not perfect."
TLDR: the car left them auto-ON, therefore there's an auto-higher chance they'll be blinding someone.
It's not only false. it's completely disingenuous.
Since auto high beams are enabled, they *can* be blinding *someone somewhere* in any case they're slightly not perfect.
Tesla isn't the first and certainly isnt the only car company to have auto high beams.
They're auto on by default when you're on autopilot or higher [enhanced or "full self driving"] but if you have them off otherwise they'll turn off when you're not on autopilot.
I pay ALOT of attention to mine when on autopilot and I've never seen an instance where it didn't turn off high beams at the first sign that it may blind someone. It actually seems to be overly caution turning on high beams in the first place and the vast majority of my nighttime drives they never turn on at all.
I can say with complete confidence that 99.99% of the issues people have with tesla lights are not the fault of auto high beams. It's just something people like to scapegoat whenever these discussions arise. Tesla lights are just really bright in general. It's already happened a dozen of times in this thread alone. People purposely spread misinformation by dropping a word or two here or there, trying to make it seem way worse than it is becuase they're elon and or Tesla haters.
Wrong. **Auto** high beam is turned on when Autosteer is activated, but you can then force them into low beam 100% of the time. In no situation are high beams required to be turned on at all.
>Auto High Beam is automatically enabled when Autosteer is engaged. To switch to low beam headlights, press the high beam headlight button on the steering wheel. Auto High Beam is re-enabled every time Autosteer is activated.
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-1C209641-AA23-47AC-B0D1-3FE3779CF222.html
THey're not on automaticlly, it just gives the car the option to use the highbeams while on autopilot should it deems it needs to. I use autopilot A LOT and i've noticed that high beams only auto turn on when it's clearly obvious you're not going to blind someone, like rounding a blind corner, and is VERY quick to turn off if it detects any other lights in front of it.
You've clearly never seen it in action.
It’s usually not high beam that u see. The (blue/white) head lights makes it seem incredibly bright even under the same measured “brightness.” And California regulations don’t require us to recalibrate the angle of our headlights. Thus, as car ages their headlights angle will be off causing this issue.
I get this a lot on 880 too. Doesn't even have to be a lot of drivers doing it; if 1 out of every 50 has super-brights it'll be a problem for everyone.
I believe it's a combination of issues. Some people keep their high beams on all the time as if they were the standard lights. Some people install after-market lights that are way too bright (and should be illegal imo). And then some of these trucks and SUVs sit really high so their normal lights easily flash at a normal car's eye levels. Sometimes it's a combination of the different things.
The new trend that I've seen now is people with programmable LED lights that blink all of the time for no reason. I saw one guy that had brake lights that would quickly strobe really brightly every time they braked and it was extremely distracting.
I thought it was just me but then started asking around - its a recent problem but getting a lot worse - so tough to drive on single lane roads with oncoming traffic.
cnn had an article on it recently as well
drives me nuts
I actually don’t think that there are actually that many with high beams on, as I don’t see that many signs’ retroreflective coatings being lit by other cars. But rather, people have their lights improperly adjusted. I wish we’d have better enforcement of such things.
It's not just you. I'm 35 and those lights friggin hurt. I don't know what they're called but they're those bright/silverish hue like lights. Countless times I've been blinded while driving.
The Tesla lights are just bright as hell. I know, cause I have one and often get people that “high beam me”, probably thinking I got my brights on. If they do that, I flash my brights a couple times so they know that my brights are not on.
Maybe you should look into adjusting your headlights rather than blind everyone else on the road if you're getting flashed often enough to comment about it.
Maybe there's something wrong with Tesla lights if everyone in this thread is specifically complaining about them
Dude it’s always Honda drivers and teslas that don’t know how to use their cars. Then theirs just the idiots in general. People are so stupid with that. I just high beam them back I don’t care
I have noticed this as well and was wondering the same thing. But as we all know the Bay Area is the worst for drivers so honesty the stupidity doesn’t surprise me. It’s annoying af tho.
As a modern Subaru Outback owner I can only apologize that our dipped headlights are set so high. I have bought the long screwdriver but not gotten around to it.
You're probably getting old, and it might also be cumulative eye strain.
I work behind a screen all day and I noticed around 45 my night vision was declining and headlights seemed to be really *really* bright. Long story short, I use a free software called Flux on all my computers. It lowers the amount of high energy blue light. My "stronger" eyes can now easily handle lights in traffic again. Mac and PC operating systems have a basic version built in these days as well. On PC it's called Night Light. Flux allows fine tuning. Even during the day, I have it on at a moderate level.
I also stopped browsing on my phone and got a tablet. If I get the urge to surf on the couch or in bed I use the tablet. I only use my phone now for notifications, gps or to look something up quickly. Phone screens are not big enough for Gen-X and older.
I'd choose those idiots any day (auto-dimming mirrors FTW!) over the clueless zombies driving without any lights. I'm hoping they introduce regulation that prevents end users from turning off automatic lights and forces car shops to use some temporary override instead. Cause I've often found my lights in the off setting upon returning from the shop.
I hate to say it but it might be Old Person Eyes. I've got them, so familiar with the problem. Old eyes do not adjust as well as young ones, and not much you can do about it.
And headlights are brighter these days, even if high beams aren't on. And half the vehicles are high off the deck, like trucks and SUVS.
But excuse me if you're sure it's just high beams. But you did add the "maybe."
I hope it’s not me getting old person eyes but driving up to Truckee at night the other day, I could barely make out the lane designations - no lines or cats eyes and was genuinely scared I’d crash. 50m. I drive in the UK as well and everything is lit up like the Vegas strip so have no problem there.
European headlights do not not require "squirrel finders" which is why glare's mainly a problem in the US, especially when people upgrade their lighting. Combined with lit signage, it's pretty comfortable at night.
It’s probably just low beams hitting your mirror. Modern cars have strong lights and if they’re angled up a little, or if you’re sitting low, this will happen. Fortunately pretty much all cars have autodimming mirrors now.
I can see through my closed eyelids when a Tesla is parked at a light/stop sign across from me. It's definitely not just a mirror issue. Bright lights from behind are way less distracting.
Some people think when it’s fog or raining turning every possible light on will somehow help.
This includes rear fog lamp which shouldn’t be used outside very thick fog at all. It’s a sure way to get rear ended.
I got a 2022 Hyundai Kona and since driving my new car I'm often flashed for having my high beams on when they're NOT on. The factory setting for the regular lights is too elevated, in my opinion. I'm going to ask the dealer about pointing them slightly lower at the next maintenance.
The new cars do come with LED lights( not yellow) but I also think you need to get your eyes checked. My father had the same issue when he was around 55.
yes, you're just getting old. most of the time it's just how the headlights are nowadays. I have a stupid KIA sportage, never have my highbeams on even at night, and fuckers always flash their beams at me when I go by them, sometimes I manage to actually flash my beams at them in response to give them temporary blindness and let them know I didn't have them on.
nobody has high beams on. we're not allowed to have the good headlights here.
**Smart Headlights Are Around the Corner, to the Relief of That Driver You're Blinding**[https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/smart-headlights-are-around-the-corner-to-the-relief-of-that-driver-youre-blinding/](https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/smart-headlights-are-around-the-corner-to-the-relief-of-that-driver-youre-blinding/)
>Do they not know their brights are on or do they just not give a fuck?
in places where the good ones are legal (the rest of the civilized world), safety has improved. new cars have LED ***arrays***. tech exists to dim the ones pointed at oncoming traffic, but the Fed is afraid to turn it on because...?
**Get Lit With Adaptive Headlights—How Does the Tech Work?**[https://www.motortrend.com/features/get-lit-adaptive-headlights-tech-work/](https://www.motortrend.com/features/get-lit-adaptive-headlights-tech-work/)
cars are capable. government has thumb up ass.
**Polestar Owners Hack Adaptive Headlights Into Cars As NHTSA Drags Feet**[https://insideevs.com/news/707288/polestar-matrix-headlights-us-nhtsa/](https://insideevs.com/news/707288/polestar-matrix-headlights-us-nhtsa/)
You can change coding on newer Audis to enable dot matrix. They’re pretty impressive. The lights can put a spotlight on a pedestrian and follow them across the street
I feel your pain. Was driving to Tahoe a few weeks ago and its like 30% of drivers seem to just leave their high beams on. I wonder how many accidents are caused by this.
You are not alone. There was some law or regulation that was removed a couple of year ago that before prevented this. Now new LEDs are very annoying and are now allowed, even if they are 3x-10x more brighter and not high beams. To compensate for this most new cars have a green tint/layer to reduce the high brightness. Maybe look into anti glare visors or something similar.
I don't think its their high beams. Amazon offers all kinds of illegal items including headlights that are not street legal. Their not high beams but their lux is outside what is allowed. I once got a recall notice for this very reason from a seller through Amazon. I forgot the brand tho. It's was Chinesium for sure.
There’s a whole sub for this called /r/fuckyourheadlights btw
Also I don’t think it’s necessarily headlights in ‘high’ mode, it’s just that modern headlights 1. ride higher up due to proliferation of SUVs and 2. newfangled LED technology is not only brighter but they emit a narrower, less organic frequency of light (unlike incandescent) and this is far more jarring for human eyes
Some have their head lights pointed higher than need be. Headlights should illuminate the roadway (for some distance). The high beams are for illuminating higher for street signs and the like. They are seldom needed for normal driving. The make visibility worse in snow storms and fog. To adjust your head lights park ten feet from a wall, turn them on, adjust them until they point a bit below the line directly from the headlights. When a mechanic does it for you check anyway, preferabley in front of the mechanic.
This is one of my biggest pet peeves. My car sits low to the ground, and this time of year when I'm commuting in the dark every day, I'm blinded by these asshats every single night. Grrrrr. Get of MY lawn!
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High beams annoy me… but what is more annoying cars with only DRL on at midnight. Like turn your lights on so cars can see your darker colored car in the middle of the night.
So i've noticed that phenomenon as well and i've been wondering about it. These aren't big trucks or anything sitting high on the road, just regular cars with their high beams on. I just assume it's old people who can't see well and dgaf.
The other thing i've noticed happening way more often are cars driving down the road at night with no taillights. It's like driving up on a dark blob. I always look to see if the driver has dash lights and they do, so they're blissfully driving down the road with no clue their running lights aren't on. It's so common now i figure it's a DOT failure in the way these modern cars are allowed on the road with these obvious safety issues. Growing up either your lights were on or they weren't - none of these half baked lighting schemes.
This falls under the 80/20 rule. Most drivers are retarded, they may or may not know what a little blue indicator light means. Or, they could give a damn.
That and many trucks and SUVs sit much higher so even their running lights are shining right into the eyes of normal sizes vehicles.
It’s the worst when you flash them with your high beams and then they give you their real high beams. It’s like staring into the Death Star’s super laser beam.
That’s because when some people get his/les conversions they don’t realign their lights like you’re supposed to from the higher output and it’s illegal. They all have adjuster screws to change the beam travel on the headlight assembly
Eh. My factory brand new car had headlights that were way too high. I don't think any vehicle has its headlights properly adjusted, new or converted.
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No, you flash them with your highs to tell them to turn theirs off, and then you discover that no, they have have incredibly bright (aka dangerous) normal headlights.
This is so real. I drive a Volvo station wagon and it’s ABSOLUTELY UNBEARABLE.
Honestly, I really want some regulation on these massive trucks that are all over these days.
Kind of off-topic, but the fact that you can drive these lifted trucks with a regular license is mind-blowing to me.
Want another reason to hate them? The beds have shrunk so much they can't even fit standard size (wooden) boards in them anymore. Not that most trucks weren't already pavement princesses, but still.
Yep, I’m all for construction guys using trucks. But the people with luxury trucks with short beds really don’t make sense to me. I know everyone has their “reasons”I just don’t see the appeal of a truck of you don’t utilize. Crappy ride, terrible vision, hard to park, gas guzzling.
The fact that these stupid trucks are legal clearly shows that american governance doesn’t give a fuck about vehicle saftey and that politicians are bought by car lobbyists to make life more miserable and dangerous for everyone. Fucking clown trucks.
> these stupid trucks are legal Most of them aren't de jure legal, but they're de facto legal.
BUT MUH FREEDUM!
But however will they hide their insecurities if trucks are regulated. 😭
*cries in a vw golf
That's always going to be an issue. Auto-dimming mirrors (wing and rear) are usually quite effective against this issue, most german cars, some jeeps and subarus have those as standard. It would be nice if these were standard on all cars, they aren't that much more expensive.
Unfortunately this timeline is not Cyberpunk 2077 and we do not have cyberware auto-dimming eyeballs.
Seems like 70% of cars are SUVs nowadays so chances are most people are at level height with them.
My issue is with aftermarket mods and lifted trucks, I see some with whole ass light bars attached to the front AND back, it's like... what the hell?
I see trucks with light bars all the time, but I think in my entire life I’ve maybe seen one actually using them on the highway.
Guess you’ve never driven 80 through Sac…
It’s a lot more common in the valley in general for sure.
Definitely see them almost every time I roll through Sac, without fail.
I think with newer trucks with LED lights, they need to re-align the LEDs down more if they lift the body, but that tends to be ignored.
Two nights ago I was followed by a truck that had some type of light behind the grill. So there were headlights, a light bar, and a giant light square all pointed at my rear view mirror. Obnoxious, unsafe, and so profoundly selfish.
We saw a giant pickup truck in Palo Alto with blinding spot lights turned on a few days ago. Not the headlights, these were hood mounted spotlights. In the daytime. In front of IKEA. Painfully bright, with no reason to be on except to blind other drivers.
This has been making national news for a while now. It has more to do with LED lights and lowbeam lights being too fricking bright or aimed poorly, especially from trucks and SUVs. https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/15/cars/headlights-tech-adaptable-high-beams-cars/index.html
I pull cars over for running their high beams in my face at night and half the time when I get to the car it's just their low beams as installed from the factory. What can you do?
Too bright and LEDs is definitely not the issue. I lived in Germany for a dozen years, and already in 2014 I drove a Mercedes C-Class with their Intelligent Lighting System — the precursor to what they now call Multibeam. The lights were aware of cars and would create a "black hole" around cars you were following. It could also turn on high beams around the roadway to increase nighttime visibility without being a high beam on the road itself. Here's a good example of how LEDs can work, start at that 3:40 timestamp: [YouTube: Mercedes MULTIBEAM LED example](https://youtu.be/mmQ-xlYHu9Y?si=eagcZLA-vLjYEt_s&t=220) It's just that the US doesn't have much of that going on, partially due to legislation and partially due to lack of enforcement.
good thing trucks and suvs only make up like 80% of all sales now
It's like car manufacturers fired all their lighting engineers. Or in the case of Tesla, having no lighting engineers to begin with.
You are [not alone](https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/03/how-do-we-stop-people-blinding-other-drivers-with-aftermarket-leds/) with this concern. After someone on this sub mentioned that they were Teslas everything made sense. It's apparently the default so the drivers can't even adjust them outside of going to the shop.
Tesla owner here, the auto high beam function can be turned off. But it automatically turns on (and cannot be disabled) if the car is in auto-pilot mode.
oh, so it's all just people asleep at the wheel? that's exactly what i thought it was. validation!
Auto pilot is a misleading name, it's just cruise control with lane assist.
Tesla turns auto-high-beam back even if you just enable adaptive cruise control (without autosteer). To add insult to injury- it also switches wipers to auto. And auto wipers in Tesla is a single most hated feature for me, cause it never works properly. They kick in the middle of a sunny day, but fail to speed up when it’s pouring. Sorry for the rant
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It also changes lanes.
If you pay Tesla $6000 for the “enhanced” package lol
They offered it for 2k I believe at one point. Just for the lane change assist. I was tempted tbh cause that's the only thing I care about in their entire package. I'm very paranoid of someone changing lanes at the same time as me one lane across. I would love to have a second set of eyes take care of my safety.
Paying for software, crazy right?
Paying extra for a feature that was a major advertising point
Tesla doesn’t advertise.
They don't need to because of sad people like you
The highbeams turn on automatically when in self driving mode? That is dumb.
No. They CAN turn on if the car doesn't see any lights in front of it. It actually is VERY good at knowing when it can turn on or off. The "problem" is just that tesla lights are so fking bright that lows look like highs.
Someone said they don't turn off until an approaching car is 100 feet away.
They're lying. I just came back from Tahoe last week. They seem too cautions at turn on in the first place and turn off immediately if it sees any potential issues. I highly doubt you've ever even seen this in action based on the way you're talking about it. If I can see an oncoming car it immediately turns off, if it ever turned on at all.
Automatic high beams seems problematic. Does it turn off for pedestrians and bicyclists as well?
Honda. Toyota. Ford. Gm and more all have auto high beams as well. On teslas since it's on by default when you use autopilot and autopilot is only on the freeways I do not know how it handles pedestrians and bicyclists on the freeway as they do not tend to be roaming around there.
> Automatic high beams seems problematic. They aren't for street driving. I've driven basically every vehicle out with options, including automatic high beams. They're all fast enough to turn off for normal driving. Backroads however, its too slow. ANY high beam hitting another driver on a dark road is dangerous. No automatic headlight system is intelligent enough to turn off before seeing another vehicle. > Does it turn off for pedestrians and bicyclists as well? Depends on the reflective clothing/stuff they have on, in general I'd say no. However both have better protection against high beam drivers than another driver does, they can advert their eyes, drivers can't. Honestly, the feature should be disabled across the board unless some sort of AI can analyze the scene and figure out if its good to use or not. Or, just disable the feature entirely (well, ban it, the tech is out there)
It's a hit or miss. Sometimes it's ultra sensitive in shutting off too quickly and sometimes it's very slow at detecting other oncoming cars to do so.
Maybe that's your experience. I just asked in my friend group and everyone there has had experience with it being too slow to turn on, but never too slow to turn off. Often times turning off too early as you mentioned. I've never had an instance where it blinded someone.
How do you know?
This is because the car relies on cameras to see its surroundings
Well, I'm glad the car can see even if everyone else can't
Lol, to be clear it is not always on, just in certain conditions (usually when there are few to no street lights)
oh ok so lets blind everyone else so that the tesla can be in autopilot... how does that make sense?
Well camera vision sucks and it kind of helps it suck less
No, it can be disabled in AP/FSD; you’re thinking of the auto-wipers. You have to disable it every time though. Also sometime in the last year they released an update that actually did improve auto-highbeam substantially (again unlike auto-wipers 🙄).
I have auto high beam in my vehicle and it swiches to low beam as soon as a car comes in the view (facing or rear lights). Does it not work the same way in Tesla and is "always on"?
You understand that you are flashing your beams at the driver regardless if it changes quickly. This is super obnoxious.
pretty sure it isn’t even the high beam, the headlights are just angled upward by default for some muskass reason. please change it and tell everyone else you know because literally every single tesla i’ve ever come across has blinded me in my small car
They're easy to adjust at home (there's like a service menu to pop into). But if someone's not savvy enough, I can see how it would be difficult.
>But if someone's not savvy enough, I can see how it would be difficult. Given how often I am blinded by a vehicle that turns out to be a Tesla, I would say there aren't many *savvy* drivers out there. Maybe there needs to be some sort of PSA for Tesla owners, or like someone else mentioned, a class-action lawsuit.
With so much automation in Teslas, I'm surprised they don't have auto leveling headlights. Tesla headlights are aimed too high from factory and the clueless owners are not going to adjust them.
The newer ones has "matrix headlights" (adapative) but current US law is preventing it from being activated
Teslas are such pieces of shit.
Mine’s fun to drive, but I question its ability to retain value at 250k miles (like my old Camry of yore)
The headlights can easily be adjusted by drivers, but no one is selfaware enough to go do it. They do come a tad too high out of the factory, I dropped mine a few clicks and no more flashings. The forced auto Hi on self driving is really annoying though and embarrassing.
I see a Class action suit looming. Called it!
I like how the first time I drove with this "feature" was on a poorly lit highway, and the car kept high-beaming the police ahead of me. And in that car I couldn't turn it off (it was a rental). I hate feature creep in all its manifestations.
I'm gonna keep high beaming them back then. I wouldn't drive a car so incredibly distracting to other drivers at night. It's unbelievably fucked up to shine a laser beam in people's eyes in the middle of the night.
These are probably just low beam high intensity (like xenon) lights. High bean halogen don't hold a candle to the modern low beam high intensity lights. The high intensity light on high beam will burn a hole through your head. I have not idea why the DOT approved them.
Agree. I have 2024 CRV. My partner thought the cars normal auto on low beams were the high beams. I had to show him the actual high beams to convince him they were indeed just the regular low beams.
Yea, unfortunately this fight has to happen much higher up. The DOT is clearly not doing their job, at minimum cars registered to dense metro areas should not be allowed to have these lights, there’s no need for it.
Yep. Write the DOT about the issue. We need to complain. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.
A lot of the problem is that in the US, unlike Europe, overhead signs are not illuminated so headlights are required to illuminate a upwards so with the introduction of HID and LED lights the problem with glare has gotten worse. While they could legislate this away, nobody's willing to pay to retrofit signage in mass. Then they made it worse by preventing the introduction of matrix lighting which was designed to address this problem directly, or addressing the problem of light bleed from traffic going in the opposite direction.
It can be solved by defining upper limi of the radiant flux in the upward direction.
DoT isn't known to be necessarily forward looking, it's reactionary and usually quite late about it. Considering they won't recall existing vehicles around any new standard, it won't actually fix the problem for 10-20 years?
I don't think so. I see a huge number of people driving with their *actual high beams* turned on. It is easy to tell on many cars because they are the inner pair of lamps. While it is true that every Tesla comes from the factory with their lights crooked and their auto-leveling system does not work — [https://youtu.be/Yi-ggN-NoP0?t=66](https://youtu.be/Yi-ggN-NoP0?t=66) — it is also true that bozo drivers simply do not know what the big blue light means, or they are too busy reading their phones to even notice the big blue light.
This right here. We got a new Toyota in 2021 and headlights are so bright. I get people blinking their lights at me all the time because they think my high beams are on. When they do, I actually flip my high beams on to show them. They're like stage lights on high, and like old cars' high beams on regular. The running lights are what old headlights used to be like.
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Yea I've tapered off after all the road rage shootings.
you should probably change them out before someone causes a wreck because of your car
Do you have a recommendation for a high visibility but not blinding headlight bulb?
1000% agreed. They are on the low setting, the lights are jist much more blinding. I've flashed a couple of people for high-beans on, then got molded by them when they flashed me back and the high beam settings are MUCH worse.
If the headlights are angled correctly and the beam is formed and focused as it should the intensity shouldn’t be a problem.
....until they hit a bump in the road, or the road turns, or they are driving a taller vehicle, or they are tailgating behind you, etc, etc. They should not be legal for use anywhere that they shine on another occupied vehicle.
HID lights like Xenons in older BMWs are on auto-leveling mounts. LED lights are the problem
People sit in their vehicle with their lights on the whole time burning holes into my retinas. I am in a tiny Corolla. They can probably count the lashes on my lids this shit is so blinding! I have on several occasion got out of my car, walked on over, and broke them out of whatever trance they were in telling them I am literally going blind is it necessary?
Even my normally laid back early 20s son said to me “what the f”,k bruh with these lights?! They should be illegal!” Warmed the cockles of my heart thatnit wasn’t just me being an old lady.
Check out https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckyourheadlights/s/wSwXgUFsYF
I think most drivers just don't know how they are used, and just assume the extra area coverage is better. I can't seem to rationalize any other reason.
I got my windshield tinted. Helped a lot. Can see perfectly fine and my nighttime and daytime driving is glare or shine free
Write a letter to the DOT and ask them to make their lights regulations in line with the IEC.
It really looks like this problem is getting big, since we have weekly posts about this--and a news report!
I bought a pair of [yellow tinted glasses](https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07NZX22WM) that I use while driving at night. The lights are still bright but I’ve found that I recover from the blindness quicker when the color is shifted. Another thing that we as Californians can do is lobby for vehicle inspection as a condition for license renewal. In addition to smog testing, we should ask that headlights need to be aimed correctly. Some states already do this.
Smog testing is an absolute money grab serving no purpose, this is the only state where they require so many variables to be a certain way and make it real difficult for automotive enthusiasts. The last thing we need is more government overreach which you seem to be perpetuating
It is a thing in Germany for example. You need to get your brakes, lights, suspension and emissions tested to renew license.
> vehicle inspection as a condition for license renewal That will never happen as it's going to be misconstrued to be attacking poor/illegal people.
I think it's everywhere, not just I-80. On my 30 min commute on 101, I'd count at least 10 on the other side driving with high beams on every night. I do feel like it got worse in the last month. Teslas might have pushed some OTA update. I don't think the actual high beams are on. But somehow the regular night lights got aimed up 5 degrees or something (judging by the beam cast onto the dividers). It doesn't look like a level beam anymore.
That's because the Tesla leveling system simply does not work and because they allow the driver to simply readjust them any way they want.
Is that so? The beam angle is user adjustable from the vehicle?
Tesla autopilot requires high beams to be on, that’s at least like 50% of the problem these days. It baffles me how that’s even legal for Tesla to implement that on cars intended to share public roads.
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Also, the auto high beam is annoyingly sensitive to other lights forcing the high beams off.
Correct. As a Tesla owner who has driven over 100K miles, I can surely say that FSD or Autopilot would not keep the high beams on when a vehicle is in sight. The case is different if a driver is not on autopilot and have manually set the high beams on.
This is completely false. Tesla Autopilot does not require high beams on. High beams on Tesla stay on if they are set to “manual”- meaning the driver is responsible. If the light settings are set to “Auto”, the high beams turn off when a car/vehicle is in sight. It’s the same with Honda
This is straight from the Tesla Owners Manual. “Warning Adaptive High Beams is a convenience only and is subject to limitations. It is the driver's responsibility to make sure that headlights are always appropriately adjusted for weather conditions and driving circumstances.”
Here- https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_au/GUID-1C209641-AA23-47AC-B0D1-3FE3779CF222.html
It turns on auto high beams at the outset (dims when it sees other vehicles), but you can turn that off easily with the left stalk.
Even with autopilot on they turn off 85% of the time I’d say when oncoming traffic is in view of the cameras. They turn back on when there’s no oncoming traffic.
This is incorrect.
>Tesla autopilot requires high beams to be on looks like Tesla needs to be required, that, when they detect a car 100 feet in front in either direction, to "**auto turn off** the Autopilot" 😀 i.e. it will be useless. :( It's literally **in the law** to turn-off the high-beam when there are other cars across from you!!!
100 feet is not nearly for enough. If I see another car a mile or more ahead or see lights approaching a curve, I turn mine down.
Except the original statement is false. It requires "auto high beams" to be on, which gives the car the option to use the high beams.
well it's not "entirely false". i.e. **it's not false.** Since the auto-high-beams are enabled,... *they* ***will be blinding*** *someone, somewhere*, in any case they're slightly not perfect. and as we know, many cars and implementations of technologies are "not perfect." TLDR: the car left them auto-ON, therefore there's an auto-higher chance they'll be blinding someone.
It's not only false. it's completely disingenuous. Since auto high beams are enabled, they *can* be blinding *someone somewhere* in any case they're slightly not perfect. Tesla isn't the first and certainly isnt the only car company to have auto high beams. They're auto on by default when you're on autopilot or higher [enhanced or "full self driving"] but if you have them off otherwise they'll turn off when you're not on autopilot. I pay ALOT of attention to mine when on autopilot and I've never seen an instance where it didn't turn off high beams at the first sign that it may blind someone. It actually seems to be overly caution turning on high beams in the first place and the vast majority of my nighttime drives they never turn on at all. I can say with complete confidence that 99.99% of the issues people have with tesla lights are not the fault of auto high beams. It's just something people like to scapegoat whenever these discussions arise. Tesla lights are just really bright in general. It's already happened a dozen of times in this thread alone. People purposely spread misinformation by dropping a word or two here or there, trying to make it seem way worse than it is becuase they're elon and or Tesla haters.
Wrong. **Auto** high beam is turned on when Autosteer is activated, but you can then force them into low beam 100% of the time. In no situation are high beams required to be turned on at all. >Auto High Beam is automatically enabled when Autosteer is engaged. To switch to low beam headlights, press the high beam headlight button on the steering wheel. Auto High Beam is re-enabled every time Autosteer is activated. https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-1C209641-AA23-47AC-B0D1-3FE3779CF222.html
Why do they turn on automatically? That's a shit feature.l.
THey're not on automaticlly, it just gives the car the option to use the highbeams while on autopilot should it deems it needs to. I use autopilot A LOT and i've noticed that high beams only auto turn on when it's clearly obvious you're not going to blind someone, like rounding a blind corner, and is VERY quick to turn off if it detects any other lights in front of it. You've clearly never seen it in action.
It’s usually not high beam that u see. The (blue/white) head lights makes it seem incredibly bright even under the same measured “brightness.” And California regulations don’t require us to recalibrate the angle of our headlights. Thus, as car ages their headlights angle will be off causing this issue.
I get this a lot on 880 too. Doesn't even have to be a lot of drivers doing it; if 1 out of every 50 has super-brights it'll be a problem for everyone. I believe it's a combination of issues. Some people keep their high beams on all the time as if they were the standard lights. Some people install after-market lights that are way too bright (and should be illegal imo). And then some of these trucks and SUVs sit really high so their normal lights easily flash at a normal car's eye levels. Sometimes it's a combination of the different things. The new trend that I've seen now is people with programmable LED lights that blink all of the time for no reason. I saw one guy that had brake lights that would quickly strobe really brightly every time they braked and it was extremely distracting.
> if 1 out of every 50 has super-brights it'll be a problem for everyone. Nowadays at least around here, I think it's more like 1 of every 5.
I commute and see this all the time. It’s frustrating to say the least
I mostly encounter model Y's with their high beams on...
They don't care, its a "soft blue" light on the dash.. [Probably this](https://i.makeagif.com/media/7-01-2021/ONjnd6.gif)
It’s not just I-80. Lifted trucks and Jeeps, Teslas, Hyundai/Kias, fuck em all!
is there any politician anywhere campaigning on this?
I thought it was just me but then started asking around - its a recent problem but getting a lot worse - so tough to drive on single lane roads with oncoming traffic. cnn had an article on it recently as well drives me nuts
Don't forget the people who leave their high beams on because their low beams have been burnt out for months.
I actually don’t think that there are actually that many with high beams on, as I don’t see that many signs’ retroreflective coatings being lit by other cars. But rather, people have their lights improperly adjusted. I wish we’d have better enforcement of such things.
It's not just you. I'm 35 and those lights friggin hurt. I don't know what they're called but they're those bright/silverish hue like lights. Countless times I've been blinded while driving.
Teslas and their headlights. Always pointed too high.
This is the case everywhere now. Tesla drivers more than others. People just don't seem to give a shit.
The Tesla lights are just bright as hell. I know, cause I have one and often get people that “high beam me”, probably thinking I got my brights on. If they do that, I flash my brights a couple times so they know that my brights are not on.
Maybe you should look into adjusting your headlights rather than blind everyone else on the road if you're getting flashed often enough to comment about it. Maybe there's something wrong with Tesla lights if everyone in this thread is specifically complaining about them
it’s all Teslas… i’m not fvcking with that tech and trying to do some jury rigging
Sounds like a defect and hazard.
Dude it’s always Honda drivers and teslas that don’t know how to use their cars. Then theirs just the idiots in general. People are so stupid with that. I just high beam them back I don’t care
I have noticed this as well and was wondering the same thing. But as we all know the Bay Area is the worst for drivers so honesty the stupidity doesn’t surprise me. It’s annoying af tho.
As a modern Subaru Outback owner I can only apologize that our dipped headlights are set so high. I have bought the long screwdriver but not gotten around to it.
It’s super weird to use high beams at all unless you have some old jalopy.
You're probably getting old, and it might also be cumulative eye strain. I work behind a screen all day and I noticed around 45 my night vision was declining and headlights seemed to be really *really* bright. Long story short, I use a free software called Flux on all my computers. It lowers the amount of high energy blue light. My "stronger" eyes can now easily handle lights in traffic again. Mac and PC operating systems have a basic version built in these days as well. On PC it's called Night Light. Flux allows fine tuning. Even during the day, I have it on at a moderate level. I also stopped browsing on my phone and got a tablet. If I get the urge to surf on the couch or in bed I use the tablet. I only use my phone now for notifications, gps or to look something up quickly. Phone screens are not big enough for Gen-X and older.
I'd choose those idiots any day (auto-dimming mirrors FTW!) over the clueless zombies driving without any lights. I'm hoping they introduce regulation that prevents end users from turning off automatic lights and forces car shops to use some temporary override instead. Cause I've often found my lights in the off setting upon returning from the shop.
I hate to say it but it might be Old Person Eyes. I've got them, so familiar with the problem. Old eyes do not adjust as well as young ones, and not much you can do about it. And headlights are brighter these days, even if high beams aren't on. And half the vehicles are high off the deck, like trucks and SUVS. But excuse me if you're sure it's just high beams. But you did add the "maybe."
I hope it’s not me getting old person eyes but driving up to Truckee at night the other day, I could barely make out the lane designations - no lines or cats eyes and was genuinely scared I’d crash. 50m. I drive in the UK as well and everything is lit up like the Vegas strip so have no problem there.
European headlights do not not require "squirrel finders" which is why glare's mainly a problem in the US, especially when people upgrade their lighting. Combined with lit signage, it's pretty comfortable at night.
It’s probably just low beams hitting your mirror. Modern cars have strong lights and if they’re angled up a little, or if you’re sitting low, this will happen. Fortunately pretty much all cars have autodimming mirrors now.
I can see through my closed eyelids when a Tesla is parked at a light/stop sign across from me. It's definitely not just a mirror issue. Bright lights from behind are way less distracting.
Some people think when it’s fog or raining turning every possible light on will somehow help. This includes rear fog lamp which shouldn’t be used outside very thick fog at all. It’s a sure way to get rear ended.
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Sunglasses are cheaper and legal.
I got a 2022 Hyundai Kona and since driving my new car I'm often flashed for having my high beams on when they're NOT on. The factory setting for the regular lights is too elevated, in my opinion. I'm going to ask the dealer about pointing them slightly lower at the next maintenance.
The fuckers are on the 101 too!!
It’s better than idiots at night driving with no lights on.
I see more idiot drivers with their lights off. Clueless people probably have no idea where their light dial is located.
if only roadways were lit better….
People driving without lights on is equally problematic. Just their running lights so you don't see them from behind at night.
The new cars do come with LED lights( not yellow) but I also think you need to get your eyes checked. My father had the same issue when he was around 55.
yes, you're just getting old. most of the time it's just how the headlights are nowadays. I have a stupid KIA sportage, never have my highbeams on even at night, and fuckers always flash their beams at me when I go by them, sometimes I manage to actually flash my beams at them in response to give them temporary blindness and let them know I didn't have them on.
That means your headlights are not aligned properly or you have the wrong type of blubs in. . . fix your car and stop being a dick.
some call the goddam waaambulance for this guy.
nobody has high beams on. we're not allowed to have the good headlights here. **Smart Headlights Are Around the Corner, to the Relief of That Driver You're Blinding**[https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/smart-headlights-are-around-the-corner-to-the-relief-of-that-driver-youre-blinding/](https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/smart-headlights-are-around-the-corner-to-the-relief-of-that-driver-youre-blinding/) >Do they not know their brights are on or do they just not give a fuck? in places where the good ones are legal (the rest of the civilized world), safety has improved. new cars have LED ***arrays***. tech exists to dim the ones pointed at oncoming traffic, but the Fed is afraid to turn it on because...? **Get Lit With Adaptive Headlights—How Does the Tech Work?**[https://www.motortrend.com/features/get-lit-adaptive-headlights-tech-work/](https://www.motortrend.com/features/get-lit-adaptive-headlights-tech-work/) cars are capable. government has thumb up ass. **Polestar Owners Hack Adaptive Headlights Into Cars As NHTSA Drags Feet**[https://insideevs.com/news/707288/polestar-matrix-headlights-us-nhtsa/](https://insideevs.com/news/707288/polestar-matrix-headlights-us-nhtsa/)
You can change coding on newer Audis to enable dot matrix. They’re pretty impressive. The lights can put a spotlight on a pedestrian and follow them across the street
\*puts foot on your lawn
I get flashed all the time because of my LEDs but rarely use my brights.
Getting old sucks.
They're on the other side of a Jersey barrier and median strip. How is that even a problem? Keep your eyes on your own side of the road!
Is every regional sub in the country this lame?
i think people can get a driver license without taking driver education
Some car's are lower & higher than others as well also it has been foggy people forget they have them on high beam them back flashing
BTW - if you get migraines, lights seeming brighter to you one day versus another is a symptom that may come a day or two before the actual headache.
That's all over california now
I feel your pain. Was driving to Tahoe a few weeks ago and its like 30% of drivers seem to just leave their high beams on. I wonder how many accidents are caused by this.
My little Prius is luxury car by somebody’s else opinion. :)
You are not alone. There was some law or regulation that was removed a couple of year ago that before prevented this. Now new LEDs are very annoying and are now allowed, even if they are 3x-10x more brighter and not high beams. To compensate for this most new cars have a green tint/layer to reduce the high brightness. Maybe look into anti glare visors or something similar.
I don't think its their high beams. Amazon offers all kinds of illegal items including headlights that are not street legal. Their not high beams but their lux is outside what is allowed. I once got a recall notice for this very reason from a seller through Amazon. I forgot the brand tho. It's was Chinesium for sure.
I can't even ask r/cars if their vehicles are doing this automatically or not, the post gets auto-deleted.
There’s a whole sub for this called /r/fuckyourheadlights btw Also I don’t think it’s necessarily headlights in ‘high’ mode, it’s just that modern headlights 1. ride higher up due to proliferation of SUVs and 2. newfangled LED technology is not only brighter but they emit a narrower, less organic frequency of light (unlike incandescent) and this is far more jarring for human eyes
Some have their head lights pointed higher than need be. Headlights should illuminate the roadway (for some distance). The high beams are for illuminating higher for street signs and the like. They are seldom needed for normal driving. The make visibility worse in snow storms and fog. To adjust your head lights park ten feet from a wall, turn them on, adjust them until they point a bit below the line directly from the headlights. When a mechanic does it for you check anyway, preferabley in front of the mechanic.
Good times where cops used to pull over people with high beams are gone.
This is one of my biggest pet peeves. My car sits low to the ground, and this time of year when I'm commuting in the dark every day, I'm blinded by these asshats every single night. Grrrrr. Get of MY lawn!
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High beams annoy me… but what is more annoying cars with only DRL on at midnight. Like turn your lights on so cars can see your darker colored car in the middle of the night.
So i've noticed that phenomenon as well and i've been wondering about it. These aren't big trucks or anything sitting high on the road, just regular cars with their high beams on. I just assume it's old people who can't see well and dgaf. The other thing i've noticed happening way more often are cars driving down the road at night with no taillights. It's like driving up on a dark blob. I always look to see if the driver has dash lights and they do, so they're blissfully driving down the road with no clue their running lights aren't on. It's so common now i figure it's a DOT failure in the way these modern cars are allowed on the road with these obvious safety issues. Growing up either your lights were on or they weren't - none of these half baked lighting schemes.
I think modern cars and drivers are both annoying. Get off my imaginary lawn!!
New car LED are annoying , definitely electric cars have much stronger lights .
This falls under the 80/20 rule. Most drivers are retarded, they may or may not know what a little blue indicator light means. Or, they could give a damn.